ELL's Cabin

Damkerng T.

08:06

This is not about your proposed SE feature, but I'd like to add the timeline on the OP's behalf (I'm not sure if the OP will see this meta post). The OP posted the question at 2015-05-06 10:35:39Z. The first revision of your answer (2015-05-06 10:58:03Z) says "The object you see there from where the liquid comes is a 'bottle' made of plastic/glass etc." No "bag" was mentioned as you've claimed: "I answered it 'bag' and 'intravenous' or 'infusion'". The OP replaced the original picture (with a big IV bag) at 2015-05-06 11:40:16Z, before the other answer (2015-05-06 13:48:49Z) was posted. — Damkerng T. 3 mins ago

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. But that's a kinda muddy definition of copula

Damkerng T.

@snailboat nods

Anonymous

You can use the term to mean "a verb which takes a predicative complement"

Damkerng T.

Hmm... maybe I've posted a comment to DCShannon already.

Anonymous

But I think modern linguists are more inclined to use the term specifically for be

Damkerng T.

08:16

Oh, not yet!

nods

Anonymous

That is, English has one copula

Anonymous

There are various grounds on which you might try to make that argument

Damkerng T.

nods -- I guess it could be analysis dependent.

Anonymous

Let's try a verb like die, first, which doesn't take a predicative complement

Anonymous

> She died happy.

Anonymous

08:19

Now, if you want to say "It's okay for happy to be there because died is a copula, linking the predicative phrase to the subject"

Anonymous

And we compare that, to say, be:

Anonymous

> She was happy.

Anonymous

It's clear that die is itself predicating on she

Anonymous

It has its own semantic predication, the meaning of which would be there even without the predicative adjunct happy

Anonymous

> She died.

Anonymous

08:20

This is implied by the longer sentence.

Anonymous

But:

Anonymous

> She was.

Damkerng T.

Great point!

Anonymous

We can see be isn't working the same way. The entire semantic value of the predicate comes from its predicative complement, happy

Damkerng T.

Oh, I can recall now. I was about to ask DCShannon, is 'leave' in 'They left angry' a copular, but saw that they mentioned 'I'm not familiar enough with copulas to say for sure whether it is or isn't, ...' in their answer first.

Anonymous

08:21

Whereas with She died happy, we see two semantic units of predication, one in died, the other in happy

Anonymous

(Hence the terms primary predicate and secondary predicate)

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

Modern linguists tend to use copula as a syntactic term

Anonymous

And died cannot be a mere syntactic copula

Damkerng T.

Oh, we have another Learner now!

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Q: "I’m going to have to let you go". why the words "going" and "have" are stand together in sentence?

That person is "going to let someone go" or he "have/must let someone go"? why the words "going" and "have" are stand together in sentence? Thanks in advance for explanations

grammar

Anonymous

08:23

I like that username

Anonymous

Admittedly, it's not terribly original

Anonymous

But somehow it makes me smile

Damkerng T.

And GATA is back! Yay!

@snailboat Hehe!

Anonymous

I do understand why someone might decide to call it a copula

Anonymous

And you can maybe make a bit more convincing argument if you use an example that takes a predicative complement

Anonymous

08:26

But although happy here is predicative, it's an adjunct, and it's not selected for by the verb:

Anonymous

> She went to the store happy.

Anonymous

> She woke up happy.

Anonymous

> She went to the store.

Anonymous

> She woke up.

Damkerng T.

Oh, your example (woke up) reminds me of another question. Does laugh at have to be a phrasal verb?

Anonymous

08:28

There's no particle shift, so it's not a verb-particle idiom:

Anonymous

> She laughed at his jokes.
> *She laughed his jokes at.

Anonymous

Syntactically, it's just a verb + preposition phrase combination:

Anonymous

> She laughed [at his jokes].

Damkerng T.

The example sentence was "All his friends laughed at him".

Anonymous

So it doesn't seem syntactically special

Anonymous

08:29

The next question is, is it an idiom?

Anonymous

That is, does it have non-compositional meaning?

Anonymous

Verb-preposition idioms are often called "phrasal verbs"

Damkerng T.

I think it's a bit ambiguous in the sentence.

Anonymous

I think the default reading would be that his friends laughed at him derisively

Damkerng T.

Though I agree that the idiomatic meaning is probably the intended meaning.

nods

Anonymous

08:32

Usually if you want to say something else, like "He was a funny guy", you'd say they laughed at what he said, or just that they laughed (in the right context), etc.

Anonymous

I try to avoid the term phrasal verb myself

Anonymous

But it does seem like one

Anonymous

And I have trouble understanding it any other way

Anonymous

I dunno

Anonymous

In real life, things aren't either compositional or non-compositional, anyway. They're shades of grey

Anonymous

08:33

The idiomatic meaning of laugh at seems pretty close to the literal meaning in my mind

Damkerng T.

Oh, see. I think I got an L1 confusion.

Anonymous

I tried to figure out what we were talking about and the best I came up with was "as an idiom it implies the laughter is derisive"

Anonymous

Is that what we're talking about?

Damkerng T.

In Thai, laugh in someone's face means something like [laugh-to-someone's-face].

Anonymous

Maybe I missed the whole point of the discussion :-)

Damkerng T.

08:35

I think it was me! :-)

Anonymous

Okay, let's start over

Damkerng T.

I mean, to me, laugh at and laugh in someone's face have a lot of overlapping.

Anonymous

Hmm, I think they do have some overlap

Anonymous

Laugh in someone's face actually makes me think you're physically close

Anonymous

I don't know if it actually means that or if that's just what I imagine when I hear it :-)

Anonymous

08:37

But yeah, laugh in someone's face I think has an even stronger implication that the laughter is derisive

Anonymous

And it emphasizes that you're doing it directly to their face, like, in front of them, making eye contact, perhaps?

Anonymous

Possibly up close. That's what I imagine

Anonymous

It's very rude

Anonymous

On the other hand

Anonymous

> His friends laughed at him behind his back.

Damkerng T.

08:37

I think in English, laughing in someone's face is laughing at someone by literally laughing at that someone.

Anonymous

His friends are making fun of him while he's not around.

Anonymous

> #His friends laughed in his face behind his back.

Anonymous

This is obviously nonsense :-)

Damkerng T.

@snailboat It's possible in English.

Anonymous

I guess that, now that I think about it

Anonymous

08:39

The idiomatic meaning of laugh at doesn't actually have to involve laughter

Anonymous

Like, not literally

Anonymous

Just mockery

Anonymous

That's pretty good evidence that it's an idiom, right? :-)

Anonymous

So when you asked if it "has to" be a phrasal verb, you were asking

Damkerng T.

Yes!

Anonymous

08:40

Can it be used with its literal meaning instead of its idiomatic meaning?

Anonymous

In that sentence.

Damkerng T.

(I was trying to look for my Eng-Thai dictionary, but couldn't find it!)

Anonymous

Ah!

Anonymous

I always have my Japanese-English dictionary because it's also my Japanese-Japanese dictionary :-)

Anonymous

I use both features!

Damkerng T.

08:41

A-ha! "laugh at" == หัวเราะเยาะ, เยาะเย้ย

เยาะเย้ย ~ mock, so this is the derisive meaning.

Anonymous

Wassat?

Anonymous

A-ha!

Damkerng T.

หัวเราะเยาะ ~ laugh in someone's face (but it has the tint of ridicule or deride as well)

See, I think that's my confusion!

Anonymous

Okay, let me try one more time and see if I can come up with the right meaning:

Anonymous

Laugh at is an idiom meaning "laugh derisively at or mock"

Damkerng T.

08:43

Now trying a Thai-Thai dictionary...

Anonymous

Laugh in X's face is an idiom with the same meaning PLUS "it must be directly toward X where they can see/hear it"

Damkerng T.

@snailboat nods

@snailboat Yes!

Anonymous

Though now that I say that, my intuition says "but laugh in X's face is probably both meaner and ruder"

Damkerng T.

LOL --- Our dictionary has no หัวเราะเยาะ!

Anonymous

Hehe! I found a dictionary! (I'm so proud!)

Anonymous

08:46

lexitron.nectec.or.th/2009_1/index.php?q=lookup/form/submit

Damkerng T.

เยาะเย้ย: ค่อนว่าหรือแสดงกิริยาซ้ำเติมให้ได้อาย ให้ช้ำใจเจ็บใจ ให้โกรธ. (pretty much about "ridicule" or "deride")

Anonymous

But it took my search as a POST argument so I couldn't link to the search result

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Yay!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Why do things always look longer when you can't understand them? :-)

Anonymous

I'm sure that definition wouldn't look so long if I could read it!

Damkerng T.

08:47

@snailboat BTW, I used to play badminton with the owner of that company. ;-)

Anonymous

Neat!

Damkerng T.

Not NECTEC itself, but the company that made LEXiTRON.

LOL -- หัวเราะเยาะ - V - laugh at

Anonymous

Lexicographer badminton!

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

Anonymous

I haven't told my housemate yet about her potentially special gyri.

Damkerng T.

08:49

It could be exciting news!

Anonymous

I will though, if only because I take every excuse to use irregular plurals

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

Anonymous

Japanese has remarkably few of what you could call irregular plurals because it doesn't have much in the way of systematic plural marking to begin with

Anonymous

But nouns with animate reference typically have a plural contrast, especially the subclass of pronouns:

Anonymous

> わたし　　　'I/me' (singular)
> わたしたち　'we/us' (plural)

Anonymous

08:51

In those cases you actually need to mark the plural!

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

But there's a number of different plural affixes

Anonymous

And for some reason, かれ pretty much only takes 〜ら

Anonymous

Even though you'd expect かれたち for neutral tone

Anonymous

You get かれら instead

Anonymous

08:53

That's the closest thing I can think of to an irregular plural in Japanese :-)

Damkerng T.

So, it's only in some pronouns!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Pronouns tend to have their own quirks in any language

Anonymous

(Some people argue that Japanese pronouns should just be considered nouns, though I don't find that convincing)

Anonymous

Japanese has some pronoun quirks, too

Anonymous

Like わが, which looks like it should be 'my', but it can also be 'our'

Damkerng T.

08:55

Interesting!

Anonymous

By the way, the が there is the Old Japanese genitive particle が

Anonymous

In Modern Japanese, that が would now be said with の

Anonymous

But the が there is fossilized, built into the word :-)

Anonymous

(It used to be a phrase rather than a word in Old Japanese)

Anonymous

You'll find just a few がs like that which mean の in Modern Japanese, leftovers from a thousand years ago!

Anonymous

08:58

Mostly in place names.

Damkerng T.

Ahh

Ah, ЯegDwight's avatar is not Lego stuff anymore!

Anonymous

That's crazy talk!

user116848

hi

Anonymous

Hello!

user116848

@snailboat Hello!

user116848

09:08

Good thing you replied I thought I was all alone here.

user116848

:)

Anonymous

No, I'm here! I'm going back and forth between rambly chatting and reading :-)

Anonymous

Every now and then I realize I'm doing a little too much rambling and not enough reading, so I take a break and go back to reading :-)

user116848

@snailboat Yeah I take lots of breaks too.

user116848

And then sometimes come here and talk to you guys.

Anonymous

09:14

Anonymous

My new snail :-)

Damkerng T.

Looks different than the last time I saw!

user116848

Tell her I say "Hi!"

Anonymous

It hasn't been very long since the last picture so it's probably just because the snail is making a silly face

Damkerng T.

^Hey, I said than!

Anonymous

09:15

Than is fine

user116848

@snailboat I don't know whether people like my answers on the ELU main site or not. I mean a lot of my answers have zero votes. Should I improve them or leave them

Damkerng T.

I think I get it from you. :P

Anonymous

My native dialect has than there, but my mom taught me to say from instead, so sometimes I say from

Anonymous

@Arrowfar Umm, I dunno! Up to you :-)

user116848

@snailboat Yeah I know.

Anonymous

09:16

Sometimes I write answers I think are good that don't get many upvotes

Anonymous

Sometimes I write answers I'm not too proud of, but then they get more votes

Anonymous

I never really know what's going on :-)

Anonymous

Maybe it's just because ELU has a lot of activity, so questions get less attention sometimes if they fall off the top of the question list

Anonymous

Unless they end up on Hot Questions

Damkerng T.

@snailboat I think there is a Meta SE post discussing the trick to get the points.

Anonymous

09:18

@DamkerngT. I should use that JS to remove the scores again so I can't see them

Damkerng T.

Oh, my cat! Why did you trip the cable?

Anonymous

Then I won't worry about it :-)

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Good point(s)!

Anonymous

Tripping a cable sets it off. (Like a trip wire that sets off an alarm in fiction.)

Anonymous

Tripping over a cable is when you hit a cable by accident with your foot and fall!

Damkerng T.

09:19

Yes! Thanks!

user116848

@snailboat Sometimes I write a stupid answer and it gets lots of votes and sometimes I put lots of effort and it gets no attention. I don't know what's with the voting system. It is stupid :-)

Damkerng T.

My first choice was kick but then I thought cats don't kick or hit stuff like people do.

Oh, no! Disk failure!

user116848

09:33

All the updates I get for VLC player look almost identical.

user116848

I can't see the difference.

Anonymous

Maybe they fix stuff like security bugs or improve playback or something

user116848

Looks like it, yes.

user116848

I mean I haven't really noticed it. They send update notification every so often. I think VLC is one the best video player for windows.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Um... it's a disk failure at my place.

user116848

09:36

I used to use Windows Media Player.

user116848

But that is kind of meh. Not fast enough like VLC.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Oh no!!

Damkerng T.

Thanks to my cat! :-)

Anonymous

Is it recoverable?

Damkerng T.

I guess so, um, I hope so!

Oh, this sentence is interesting:

> Each author's name and the title of the work appear at the end of the quotation and again in a bibliography-index that includes publisher and date.

includes publisher and date, no articles, no plural.

Even more interesting, Google returned 0 results for "includes publishers and dates".

Perhaps it's a fixed expression.

Anonymous

09:51

I think it's productive

Anonymous

I think it should be covered in CGEL under Restricted non-referential interpretations of bare NPs (p.409), but I don't see a specific description

Damkerng T.

Does bare mean being used without articles?

Anonymous

Without a determiner

Damkerng T.

Oh!

Anonymous

Articles being a type of determiner

Damkerng T.

10:00

nods

Anonymous

One common type of bare NP is the bare role NP

Anonymous

> She became treasurer.

Anonymous

Here we have a count noun used without a determiner

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

Bare role NPs can be predicative complements, but not subjects or objects:

Anonymous

10:01

> *Treasurer called me into the office.

Damkerng T.

I thought it was similar to all ruble, but all is also a determiner, so it's not.

nods

Anonymous

> *She punched treasurer in the nose.

Anonymous

That's one way we can tell apart objects from predicative complements.

Damkerng T.

I remember that I want to be pilot sounds wrong to many native speakers.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. All ruble looks like the word has be noncountified

Anonymous

10:03

Uncountified?

Anonymous

Made into a non-count noun.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. It'd sound fine to all of them in context.

Damkerng T.

I still wonder whether it's countable!

Anonymous

It's just a failure of imagination.

Damkerng T.

But it looks like it's the only explanation I can think of.

@snailboat Ahh

Anonymous

10:05

@DamkerngT. that includes publisher and date is yet another thing on the pile of English language phenomena I can't explain at the moment

Anonymous

But it's a good question! Did someone ask it?

Damkerng T.

No, it's in my book!

Anonymous

A-ha!

Damkerng T.

Artful Sentences: Syntax as Style, Virginia Tufte.

It's not even really in the book. It's in the acknowledgements!

Anonymous

I think it's part of a productive pattern, but I can't quite pin it down off the top of my head

Anonymous

10:06

Some research would probably be helpful :-)

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. It's in the front matter?

Damkerng T.

Yes!

Anonymous

Is it really in the acknowledgements?

Damkerng T.

> Many thanks go, first of all, to the authors of more than a thousand sentences quoted in Artful Sentences: Syntax as Style. Each author's name and the title of the work appear at the end of the quotation and again in a bibliography-index that includes publisher and date. I hope readers will enjoy these wonderful examples as much as I do and will be inspired by them.

Anonymous

Wow!

Anonymous

10:07

Makes sense in context :-)

Damkerng T.

Hmm... did I mistype that style?

I did!

Evening @Fantasier!

I guess I would write that includes publishers and dates, but that would sound wrong!

Anonymous

Well, it doesn't sound ungrammatical or anything

Damkerng T.

Just off, perhaps?

Anonymous

I don't think there's anything wrong with it exactly, but

Anonymous

Okay, I'll make up an explanation entirely based on my intuition. Let's see how far that goes :-)

Damkerng T.

10:16

Yay!

Anonymous

I think that when you have a context in which noun phrases denote attributes of the topic of discussion

Anonymous

Like, here, publisher and date are attributes of the works being cited

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

Hmm, can we come up with related examples?

Damkerng T.

Hmm... so using the singular publisher and date sounds better because it matches the work?

Anonymous

10:18

> I sorted the packages by size and weight.

Damkerng T.

Oh, an interesting example.

I don't know why, but by size and weight sounds natural.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I think that when you say includes publisher and date it relates them specifically to the work (no other interpretation possible), but when you say includes publishers and dates you're leaving it to the context to imply that they're the publishers and dates of the work

Damkerng T.

Probably because by bus, by boat, etc.

Anonymous

And so the semantics are a little bit looser, and it's possible to say, but you can use the slightly more precise expression instead

Damkerng T.

A-ha!

searching for "includes the publisher and date"...

Makes sense. (found 1 hit)

Anonymous

10:22

Certain instrumental phrases typically have no article, including your example (by + method of transport)

Anonymous

Or by telephone

user116848

Work time. See you later @snailboat!

Anonymous

See you!

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

I think that a lot of these phrases are non-referential

Anonymous

10:23

I mean, of course, if you go somewhere by train, you do end up taking a specific train

Anonymous

But the phrase by train doesn't refer to any specific train

Anonymous

Hmm

Anonymous

My intuition didn't get me very far :-)

Damkerng T.

I guess I kinda get it, but still doesn't really get it. :-)

The case of a prep + noun is probably easier, because they're common "exceptions".

Anonymous

I think that is sort of a case you have to memorize

Damkerng T.

10:25

Besides by X, there are on Y and at Z, perhaps there are more.

nods

Anonymous

Though it's far more specific than prep + noun

Anonymous

The case we just discussed was by + method of transport

Anonymous

Anything that can be construed a method of transport: "I arrived here by gorilla."

Anonymous

So a semantic category, not just a fixed list of nouns

Damkerng T.

But it's rare for me to see a verb + noun which is normally countable like this includes publisher and date.

Anonymous

10:27

> She became treasurer.

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

That's another fairly specific exception

Anonymous

Since it's denoting a role and the verb takes a predicative complement

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Um... Donkey Kong!

Anonymous

I guess you could say that they're made into non-count nouns. (I'm not convinced that this is true, I'm just putting the idea out there)

Anonymous

10:30

I had this idea, because it popped into my head that the original phrase is very similar in meaning to:

Anonymous

> ... includes publisher and date information.

Anonymous

So I thought, "Hey, maybe publisher is being conceptualized like publisher information, which is non-count"

Anonymous

After all, whether something is count or non-count is closely related to semantics (how we're thinking about what the noun represents)

Anonymous

Just an idea :-)

Damkerng T.

A very interesting idea!

Anonymous

10:32

Don't ask me to define what it means to conceptualize it like information

Anonymous

'Cause I dunno. :-)

Anonymous

I'm just grasping at straws

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I think you should post the question on ELL and get some other folks thinking about it :-)

Damkerng T.

Okay!

Anonymous

Someone might have a simple explanation!

Damkerng T.

10:34

Thanks for all the pointers and ideas!

Damkerng T.

12:40

> Being a blogger/internet marketer has its own perks. You get to use cool stuffs online. Test and review them and also recommend or reject them based on their potential to help out you or your readers. Today I will compare two ace grammar and spell checking tools for English and find out which one is the best value for money product. ...

> Grammarly vs Whitesmoke : Comparison Between Two Grammar Checker Tools

I suspect that neither Grammarly nor Whitesmoke could catch that stuffs.

By the way, I got a warning when I tried to open anywhere.whitesmoke.com/index.php, which is linked to in our question: ell.stackexchange.com/questions/56237/…. If someone else gets a similar security warning, we should warn others.

Freddy

15:01

hola

Damkerng T.

15:13

Halo!

Freddy

@DamkerngT. How's your day going? :-)

Damkerng T.

Hmm... sorta usual, I think. :D

How's yours?

Freddy

Till now good nothing special :)

Damkerng T.

Sounds good enough. :P

Freddy

yes there is one thing special, I have opened Facebook after 2 months :p

Damkerng T.

15:20

Oh!

The last two months must've been quite peaceful, I guess. :-)

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Q: How to transform a word?

Well i came across these words in the Word Form section in an exam for gifted students: mouth-watering (mouth), anti-inflammatory (flame), bystander (stand), photogenic (photo)... the thing i want to say is how can i even possibly know or think about these words when i do the test? People keep te...

etymology

Poor thing! -- Some tests can ruin enthusiasm for learning!

Freddy

@DamkerngT. kind of

it is very difficult for my eyes to concentrate to that question ^

Damkerng T.

Oh, indeed! -- But I guess it's gonna be closed soon.

Freddy

@DamkerngT. Which is your favourite programming language?

Damkerng T.

Me? Tcl. :-)

I know it's an uncommon answer. :D

Freddy

I have not heard about it!

Damkerng T.

15:28

cisco.com/web/about/security/intelligence/securetcl.html

Freddy

ohhh it is for IOS devices and by cisco. seems cool!

Damkerng T.

Chances are what we types will get through Cisco routers which are running IOS with Tcl scripting capability all the time.

It's one of a few languages that are certified based on its security strength.

Freddy

great

Damkerng T.

The downside is that its syntax is a bit unfamiliar (we can even say that it has almost no syntax), and its base variant is non-OOP.

Freddy

yup i could not understand anything from syntax :(

Damkerng T.

15:34

If you have a Mac or use Python, you already have Tcl installed. ;-)

Freddy

I use python

and do use Mac(my brother have that)

Damkerng T.

Look under your Python folder. I think you will see the "tcl" directory. ;-)

Freddy

I have seen most of the people like C but I like python

Damkerng T.

Python is good. It keeps getting better, generally. And it has lots of libraries, um, modules and packages readily available.

Freddy

@MARamezani will soon enter this room

yes it is simplest language i have seen

MARamezani

15:38

@Freddy Oh no!

Hullo world!

Freddy

hola

Damkerng T.

Hello!

Freddy

@MARamezani which programming language you like the most?

MARamezani

@Freddy Does TeX count?

Freddy

yup

MARamezani

15:41

So you got your answer.

Yay!

Damkerng T.

Try this on your Python!

MARamezani

My rep isn't that round anymore!

Damkerng T.

> import Tkinter
interp = Tkinter.Tk()
print interp.tk.eval('return "Hello, world!"')

@MARamezani Yay!

MARamezani

Some nice guy downvoted me on Area51 and some nice guy downvoted me on ELL!

I wonder, why do I always get a downvote as soon as another answer is added?

Damkerng T.

?

looking...

MARamezani

15:47

Maybe it's because they want a fair competition.

Upvotes aren't fair.

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani That's weird.

MARamezani

Not as weird as me.

Oh, the downvote must have been Tim's.

I mean TRomano.

I don't get it though.

He downvotes the question for a fairly good reason:

-1. You should tell us what you're trying to say; otherwise you may be given grammatically acceptable answers which may have connotations you would not wish your sentence to have. "looking forward to" may already be your best option. — TRomano 4 hours ago

But why my answer? :?

Whatevs.

@Dam How are you and your question analyzer doing today?

Any interesting questions?

Damkerng T.

@MARamezani Yes! Mine. :-)

I posted a question today.

MARamezani

WHAT?

Link!

Damkerng T.

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Q: '[That] includes publisher and date' — no article?

I stumbled upon this text: Many thanks go, first of all, to the authors of more than a thousand sentences quoted in Artful Sentences: Syntax as Style. Each author's name and the title of the work appear at the end of the quotation and again in a bibliography-index that includes publisher and ...

grammar articles zero-article

MARamezani

15:52

+1 A very interesting question. — StoneyB 3 hours ago

@DamkerngT. Stupid question!

Damkerng T.

:D

MARamezani

@DamkerngT. You attracted two great answers after Stoney's.

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

MARamezani

I don't even get what they mean.

MARamezani

16:23

@Dam I think your publisher question got its answer from Stoney alright, but I guess it's just one of the cases like

> I don't like run.

As an answer to "if you wanna lose weight, run!"

Nah, that doesn't work.

MARamezani

16:44

@Dam I had a question.

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