ELL's Cabin - 2015-09-06

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Q: The problem with tags

The problem with tags The aim of Stackexchange of trying to deliver good answers to grammar questions is excellent, but nevertheless Stackexchange has still a lot to do. I have just read the post "Why is present perfect used in this sentence?" and given a comment. Then I looked at the posts with...

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inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

9:29 AM

Hullo @puputeh24! Welcome to the ELL's Cabin!

10:25 AM

Hi, is this an auto-message? -- > Hullo @puputeh24! Welcome to the ELL's Cabin!

I'm new here. I'm sorry..

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

No it isn't.

Unless I'm a robot. O.o

@puputeh24 No problem! Everyone was new here once.

hola

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Hullo!

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Q: "Future" step-mom "to be"?

I came across the bold sentence from an American TV show, Weird loners, S1E1. In the case of my question, why the dialogue is using future + to be, not either of them? Thanks. According to google dictionary , "to be" means of the future. Example : "my bride-to-be" Beside, I also came across...

I think we can guess, but it's not necessarily correct.

A stepmom = someone who is now a stepmom.

A stepmom-to-be = someone who is soon to be a stepmom.

A future stepmom-to-be = someone who, in the near future, will soon be a stepmom.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

10:35 AM

@puputeh24 ^

I think, it makes dialogue humorous or sarcastic or something like that

10:47 AM

user image

^^ jhanmastami fair going on here

Looks like fun, and crowd. :-)

Ah India = crowd! :p

I like fun parks. Went to a place like that often when I was younger. Still do, but don't go to one very often.

@Freddy LOL

Is there a haunted house in the fair?

Hi.

No. Because only weird stuff are allowed.

10:56 AM

@Damkerng T. Thanks for your answer.

@puputeh24 Hi!

Let me try finding some image

@pup hola

@puputeh24 It was a bit speculative, but I think it would be something like that.

@Freddy Aww... I think the haunted house is usually the best part in fun parks. :P

user image

Oh, a car too!

10:59 AM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M sorry for my misunderstanding.

Yes, you need to hold 10 bucks in your hands standing behind grill and bikers will take it away from your hand!

@Freddy A-ha!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@Freddy Is this one of those when some guys start spinning fast to see if they get dizzy and other people spin their heads fast to see if they get dizzy?

Hey, I was wondering that what level of English user are allowed to chat here. I'm not good at English O_O Thanks.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@puputeh24 Any level of English.

11:01 AM

@puputeh24 Yours looks good enough for me. :-)

I can't find picture of donkey show! :(

I'll be back! Bye

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Cya!

What on Earth is donkey show?

See you around!

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Hmm it's kind of simple.

There is one one donkey in a show

All the people need to stand around the donkey in big circle(around 20 people in one show)

Then host will ask donkey different questions like "Which fellow in the crowd is single?"

The donkey will stop near random person in circle

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

11:06 AM

And kick him?

and the guy near whom donkey stop will be SINGLE

That is what we call THE DONKEY SHOW

Ohh... A donkey version of SE. You can ask anything. The donkey knows it all!

Which is similar to snake oil shows over here.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Specifically Informed Notorious Giggling Long Eagle = SINGLE?

keshavkatha.blogspot.in/2011/04/k50-donkey-made-me-docotor.html

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M What??

Hi, can I ask a question?

11:16 AM

anytime

Do you think the texts you type in chatroom, it's more like conversation text than writing.

I mean you type here like you speak.

Absolutely.

@jimsug Thanks!

Chatroom text is much more like casual spoken text, than like writing.

But I still wouldn't say it's like conversational language.

The reason for that is, in conversational language, there are slips of the tongue, mistakes that you make, and gestural cues that you use, that add to the meaning you're creating.

You don't really have that here, with the exception of some formatting that indicates emphasis on a particular word.

Also the reply function, which you'd typically indicate in conversation by looking at or gesturing towards the person you're replying to.

How about idioms? Are they often use in casual speech than writing because you have to write formally, more often than not.

Oh ya.. There are no emoticons here.

11:26 AM

Well, emoticons can still be composed :)

You might mean emoji, but maybe you can copy and paste them into the input box.

As for idioms... you might mean slang, which is definitely more common in casual conversation than written language.

😀

Does that render for you?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@jimsug Yes, it looks like a rectangle.

Ah.

So it doesn't work, then.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@puputeh24 :P ;) :O :}

We're usually not chatting formally here.

@jimsug What is this anyway?

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M Well, I would normally look at the language and determine from that whether we're chatting formally or not, rather than asking ourselves what we mean to do.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M It's meant to be a smiley.

But yeah, as much as we might say "we're being casual", the proof is in the language that we actually use.

For example, I wouldn't use But yeah in even slightly formal language.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@puputeh24 Some advice: You can reply to messages, and edit messages, and delete messages. Markdown (Bold, italic, blockquote etc.) works like the way it does in the main site. To write multiline messages, you need to use shift+enter key.

11:31 AM

Markdown doesn't work in blockquotes, though, does it?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@jimsug I only imagine formal chat when @Arau and @Stoney are talking about complementizers. ;)

> It does.

> Test of **markdown**
in multiline messages

Ah

It's just multiline messages it doesn't work in.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

It doesn't work in multiline messages.

Yeah.

You can also only edit for a certain window of time after you've written the message.

Except the awkward thing is that I've forgotten what that edit window is.

2 minutes?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

You can edit messages for two minutes @puputeh24; and for that you need to hover the mouse over the message, and click the down arrow on the left.

11:35 AM

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M That's what I wanted to know. hehe

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Well many have asked me the same things, so I know what questions to expect. :)

Sandbox

Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...

It's a chatroom where you can test stuff.

@inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M But I don't get what is "markdown"..

chat.stackexchange.com/faq#formatting

@jimsug Thanks for your comments and explanations.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@puputeh24 meta.stackexchange.com/help/formatting

11:42 AM

Testing

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

daringfireball.net/projects/markdown

Testing again

I'm done. hehe

Thanks !!

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

Welcome!

6 hours later…

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

6:12 PM

Hullo @DanielA.R.Werner! Welcome to ELL's Cabin!

Daniel A. R. Werner

Say, is "value by coordinate" proper English if I want to refer to a function giving me a certain value from a given coordinate? Or would "value from coordinate" be more appropriate?

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

I'd say "value from coordinate".

Actually, I would just say "inserting < coordinate > in the function gives us < value>".

Daniel A. R. Werner

I need a catchy name for a library I am writing so this'd be a little too long ;)

A very short alternative: c2v()

:P

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

That'd work too, hah!

Welcome to the Cabin @keyboard-k!

@Dan could you give us your full sentence?

Daniel A. R. Werner

6:22 PM

Not really a sentence thing, more of a naming thing.

"Opacity by point guru" Would that ring any bell?

Nope. Sorry.

Daniel A. R. Werner

as for naming a system that'd give you information about "opacity" related information about some object at given points/coordinates

sorry but this is quite abstract I guess.

Just curious if that'd sound totally nuts to a native speaker

I'm not familiar with "guru" as an expert system. It could work in the context. Out of context, it's hard to guess what it is for me.

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

@DanielA.R.Werner BTW I think asking in Math.SE's chat is a better option. This is mostly a matter of technical grammar.

Daniel A. R. Werner

Thank you, I might ask there

7:18 PM

In the fullness of time, you will have thousands upon thousands of these:

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Q: Why is it "an Asia" but not "a Asia"?

There was an Asia Minor and an Asia Major located in modern-day Iraq. Classical antiquity We use "an" when the word is starting with a, e, i, o, u. (e.g. an elephant) Second rule is if the word pronounced directly a, e, i, o, u we cannot use "an". (eg. a unicorn) Asia in this case starts ...

inɒzɘmɒЯ.A.M

7:34 PM

> Rule 1. Yeah
Rule 2. I have no idea where these rules are comin' from.

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