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Sue
Sue
00:19
@gerrit That's really cool! Hope you had a great time!
Ooops, I made a silly mistake in that last comment, so I'll start again!
I've always appreciated your contributions at travel, but have only just found your dedication at Sustainability, and Vegan/Vegetarian. I had a feeling those things were in your heart, just from things I've seen in here. I've looked for you in both of those chat rooms, but neither seem very active. I love the question about whether or not mollusks feel pain.
I've mostly though that if something has an instinct to protect itself, it must be at least in part because there's a danger of feeling pain. Obviously, from a neurological perspective, it's not that simple.
I was a vegetarian all throughout my teenage years. Now I call myself a "hypocrite vegetarion" because I really don't believe I should be eating meat/poultry/fish/etc (that's personal-I don't care what other people eat), yet I do.
They're not my staple diet though. And my whole body knows when I've done it.
But I get lazy.
Sustainability's huge to me too. I'll have to spend some time at both of those sites, even if I don't have anything to contribute, except for voting!
 
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Charlie Brumbaugh
Charlie Brumbaugh
04:58
Let's reopen this one outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/11352/… it has good answer and is not broader than say outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/801/…
 
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WedaPashi
WedaPashi
06:34
Morning Base Camp!
Ricketyship
Ricketyship
Hiya @WedaPashi
WedaPashi
WedaPashi
Hello @Ricketyship! Hows the weather?
Ricketyship
Ricketyship
06:52
@Sue Would disagree with you here Sue. @CharlieBrumbaugh has a point. The way the question was initially formed, and the way the OP has commented on one of the answers, the import was to make the description gender neutral. Now since the title of the question is changed, it makes some of the answers look out of context.
@WedaPashi Good! I went hiking in sakleshpur yesterday and the day before :)
Ricketyship
Ricketyship
07:11
@Sue @CharlieBrumbaugh From what I can see from the site analytics, 87% of visits come from search engines and only 5% comes from referring sites (including SE). I do not think people go to the TGO taglines to understand what the site stands for. If I were a new user, I would google a query, see where it leads me to and then read the answers.
If I were really interested in knowing more about the community, I would skim through the questions/answers and then spend some time at the site to understand it better. I'm honestly doubtful of this "Get more visibility" using tagline approach.
 
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gerrit
gerrit
08:48
@Sue I consider my own diet hypocrite as well, because I'm vegetarian but not vegan, which is not consistent considering that the arguments for vegetarianism apply equally to veganism.
I'm only very moderately active on the vegetarianism and sustainability sites.
 
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imsodin
imsodin
12:12
I just still totally don't agree with that. Yes, the OP did make the "man" in outdoorsmanship cursive, but that was the only reference to gender neutrality in the entire question. All the rest was about how badly the tag line represents what TGO is about - e.g. nature is missing and excursion is pretty random. The focus on gender was layed by commenters and answerers who singled out that issue - to which the OP obviously had to react and that lead to the usual clash around this topic.
Also while the term outdoorsmanship seems to be beloved by some, it has been pretty clearly established th…
Ricketyship
Ricketyship
12:41
@imsodin No issues with changing the tagline. But I'm not sold out on the real effect it would have on our traffic. Site analytics says the majority of hits are from search engines. And the initial talk was if the question's title can be changed now after all the answers that were posted. For me that would make the answers out of context.
Either way, it is what it is. The title is changed now. Doesn't make much of a difference to me personally. I've deleted my answer on the meta because I feel it's a dead horse that I don't want to drag around :)
Charlie Brumbaugh
Charlie Brumbaugh
Maybe it’s just been too long since I hit the hnq but it’s getting frustrating watching my posts get no votes while others on the hnq do
TelKitty
TelKitty
13:42
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A: How To Quickly Warm A Tent

TelKittyThe question is how to quickly warm a tent. Answer is: use the most efficient way to turn material into heat energy, which will speedily bring up the temperature in the tent. I have used a fuel stove to warm the air inside the tent before, the draw back on this is that you need to bring extra ...

Seriously?? Fuel stove/heater to warm a tent too dangerous??
I would like to learn voters' experience in winter camping ...
Charlie Brumbaugh
Charlie Brumbaugh
13:56
@imsodin Given the context of the post (right after the welcoming blog) and the original title, I guess I don't understand why people took it not to be about making the word gender neutral
From the OP
> I do not know how you could conclude my question had nothing to do with gender issues.
From more comments by @ab2
> I never participated in any feminist hoo-ha, I just quietly went about graduating from MIT and working on my career, so I myself was at most minimally aware, but I was in no doubt what Kate meant.
 
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StrongBad
StrongBad
15:28
@TelKitty I have a fair amount of experience winter camping in the White Mountains of NH and I have never used a stove to heat a tent and I would never recommend it.
The only time I have ever heated a tent is with large (think 20+ people) canvas tents that have ceiling heights of 10+ feet. We had a wood burning stove with a chimney.
Ricketyship
Ricketyship
16:00
@CharlieBrumbaugh, I suggest we stop discussing that meta here. It's more than lived its lifetime now. And there's no use in discussing something that isn't adding any value anymore.
Charlie Brumbaugh
Charlie Brumbaugh
@Ricketyship But people are still wrong on the internet!!
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Ricketyship
Ricketyship
There used to be a gif where a stickman keeps banging on the keyboard till his arms and head and all explode on the keyboard XD
Charlie Brumbaugh
Charlie Brumbaugh
That's a very bloody gif
Ricketyship
Ricketyship
Yep. Gory
 
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Charlie Brumbaugh
Charlie Brumbaugh
23:41
There were protesters at a road intersection where one of the roads is one way
At intersections like that there is a right side of the street and a wrong side to stand and if you can’t figure that out I find it that I have a hard time taking the protest seriously

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