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Aravona
Aravona
06:57
Morning all!
Hope all is well this lovely sunny Wednesday
Liam
Liam
07:42
@Aravona Morning
Liam
Liam
07:58
I was going to write a question about finding a bird I keep seeing
but then Ifigured it out
rspb.org.uk/discoverandenjoynature/discoverandlearn/birdguide/…
Aravona
Aravona
@Liam awesome :)
I'm potentially looking for a new job :/
Liam
Liam
@Aravona Why?
@Aravona I'm going to write the question anyway, no cheating!
See if anyone else can figure it out. I've been trying tof igure it out for ages
I was most of the way though writing the question anyway when it just came to me!
Aravona
Aravona
08:19
@Liam haha I won't cheat :)
@Liam erm between banning phones and most websites... They've frustrated me. Ok my phone I get... But I have to keep asking for development related websites... A lot...
Plus they hinted the company isn't doing so well
And I've been waiting two weeks now for my staging website to have the DNS reconfigured as it doesn't work... And yeah, still broken. So my development there is held up.
Liam
Liam
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Q: Possible duplicate of The Great Outdoors?

LiamProposal: Bird Watching There seems significant cross over here of both Biology and The Great outdoors. All of the questions below I feel would be on topic in one or the other. I've made this point with several other "outdoor" based proposals. The issue is interest. TGO is having difficulty keep...

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@Aravona Yeah I got frustreated, why I left my current place
if that makes sense
7 weeks.....
Aravona
Aravona
08:35
@Liam 7 weeks?!
Liam
Liam
@Aravona Till I leave my current job!
Aravona
Aravona
@Liam oh goodness that's ages. My step mum handed in her notice and it's 6months
Luckily she is just retiring
Liam
Liam
@Aravona 3 months....
Aravona
Aravona
@Liam wow. I'm a month
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
09:25
@Liam Oh - so you knew already? If I had come in here I would have seen that :-)
@Aravona oh dear - sounds frustrating
@Aravona I've always been 3 months, but I think my current role is 6
Liam
Liam
trying not to give the game away :)
@RoryAlsop That's cool! I had already written the question when I figured it out.
Aravona
Aravona
@RoryAlsop morning! And yeah it's just seriously slowing down my productivity not speeding it up!
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/78852/…
hadn't seen this
Aravona
Aravona
@RoryAlsop the sailing proposal? Yeah seen it
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
09:40
@Aravona In principle I like it - some stuff will overlap here and with Travel, but the proposed scope also includes boat maintenance, sailing tactics, racing, provisioning etc
Aravona
Aravona
09:59
@RoryAlsop yeah
Ok after two weeks of complaining my IT guy finally spent 30seconds giving my staged website a new external IP
I can work on it again now. Finally
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
@Aravona seriously! I bet they wasted much more than 30 seconds in procrastinating about it
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Liam
Liam
@RoryAlsop That sounds like the infrastructure guys in ours
Aravona
Aravona
@RoryAlsop of course!! I'm getting super frustrated with people here
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
@Aravona always interesting to see which companies waste millions in wasted downtime due to inefficient IT processes - and are loathe to spend any money fixing those processes
It used to frustrate me intensely
Now (luckily) I'm senior enough I just pout my lip and say "well, I can't do 'X' until you fix this"
"No, I don't have another way to do it"
Aravona
Aravona
10:45
@RoryAlsop haha I wish I had that... But they think productivity will go up with these bans... Not for me. Yesterday I was held up for 45 minutes because I couldn't access a website I needed... I am logging every hold up in my notebook too ;)
Liam
Liam
@Aravona the thing that bugs me about this kind of thing, I sent this to HR when I handed in my notice. I literally get offered a job every week! There are far more jobs than people can do the jobs (experienced people anyway). The SO survey showed this recently that people with 10_ years experience are few and far between.
But often companies, rather than trying to keep a highly in demand worker just treat them(us) like someone that is easily replaced and ultimately not important (my company employs mostly call centre workers, they keep this mentality for everyone)
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
@Aravona my last org didn't have a time code for this sort of thing, so I said that until they did it was going on one of the senior partner's expense codes :-)
Liam
Liam
Good companies try to keep their workers by making them feel like they're wanted, bad one's simply don't care
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
I racked up a lot of hours on that one
Liam
Liam
@RoryAlsop LOL
Right on cue, HR sends another snotty company wide email... LOL
Aravona
Aravona
10:54
@RoryAlsop brilliant :)
I'm interested if I get offered this other job... If my company counters.
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
@Aravona In a situation like that I'd be quite demanding of what I'd need in a counter-offer :-)
Aravona
Aravona
@RoryAlsop oh me too I think.
I am not on a terrible wage for someone aged 26 with 5 years experience (29.5k) but the roles I'm being put forward for are worth much more
Liam
Liam
@Aravona I think that's more than I was on at your age :)
Though I live in North wales not down south
Also I'm that old that inflation applies in that equation now....
Aravona
Aravona
11:10
@Liam I think about inflation a lot... And I've saved up an emergency 6month bills fund in case of work disaster...
I am a tad money paranoid :)
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
@Aravona or just well prepared...
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Aravona
Aravona
11:33
@RoryAlsop I'm not sure there is much difference ;)
But yeah, I'm just more comfortable with that breathing space lol
Aravona
Aravona
12:00
Anyway, pup is getting bigger every day... Will be outdoors soon enough... Geocaching and hiking etc
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Liam
Liam
12:28
@Aravona yea!
Aravona
Aravona
@Liam he'll probably love geocaching!
I just wish he'd learn to toilet OUTSIDE
Liam
Liam
12:42
@Aravona I feel like that about some of my co-workers....
Aravona
Aravona
12:57
@Liam LOL!
Blurgh... I'm scraping for work now people have finally gotten back to me and I basically am almost done...
I hate this cycle of stupidly busy then bored for weeks lol
 
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Liam
Liam
14:59
another member of my team just quit
Rory Alsop
Rory Alsop
15:10
:-(
 
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Wills
Wills
16:11
Hola
Bird identifying would fit to Outdoors quite well I think. Good idea @liam
Liam
Liam
16:28
@Wills Cheers mate
hows things?
@RoryAlsop I'm not bothered, I'll be gone myself in a couple of weeks!
 
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WedaPashi
WedaPashi
18:11
Hello guys :)
@Wills: Hows you mate?
 
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Wills
Wills
20:45
Hi @liam and @weda
All fine here. Just raining all das but it stops now. Was over 30degree all The time so thats just fine
Trying to play beach soccer later with the locals here. Watched them yesterday. They looked strong

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