The Base Camp

WedaPashi

05:07

@EverythingRightPlace: I work as a firmware engineer, but most of the time I do play with Wireless modules and sensors.

Hey there.. Back in office again.. Left at 4 a.m. and back in office at 9 a.m.

#IMayDozeOffOnTheDesk

Aravona

05:51

@WedaPashi wow mate... here you'd get some in lieu time off

WedaPashi

06:35

Yeah

Whats up with you all?

Plans for weekend?

Aravona

07:13

@WedaPashi my grandads birthday party and some geocaching... We were meant to kayak but between weather / my other half having to work a bit we are rescheduling. You? :)

WedaPashi

08:13

I am setting off to a hike around old-marked-trade routes this weekend. 4 of them.

Will do 2 of them each day. sat-Sunday

@RoryAlsop: Hey Rory!

Rory Alsop

@WedaPashi morning!

Aravona

08:31

@WedaPashi nice!!

@RoryAlsop morning!

WedaPashi

:)

Rory Alsop

08:50

@Aravona morning to you too!

a paperwork day today - the entire day... :-(

WedaPashi

@RoryAlsop: Ah, thats bad

Liam

Morning all

Rory Alsop

@Liam morning

Liam

Finally moved into my new house. Yesterday was a looonnnggg day

WedaPashi

09:06

@Liam: Cheers to that!

Aravona

@Liam yay congrats :)

Liam

Cheers guys!

WedaPashi

@Liam : and, yes, England won, Cook played well, and so did Bell. :) @aravona

Liam

@WedaPashi ha ha

I'm not sure india turned up to this one and our batters did for a change

Aravona

I wonder sometimes if my English doesn't make sense.

Liam

09:21

@Aravona Me too?! I think coming from the area I do and living in Liverpool for 15 years I've developed a lot of slang terms. I used to have an Italian girlfriend, she had aweful trouble getting what I was saying often

awful...My spelling is terrible too!

:)

nice question @WedaPashi

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Q: Making a Make-Shift harness from Tape-Slings

I have a common knowledge about knots used for Climbing and Rope-care. There was an incident last week, where I needed a Seat-Harness which I didn't have with me at that particular juncture. And, I may most probably use that for tying up a friend when we cross water streams. I could do that with ...

I have been shown this in the past but I can't remember how it goes

Aravona

@Liam maybe it is that

@Liam I just reminded someone to bear in mind country locations when asking for cheap itesm they might need backpacking in the rain... cheap in US != cheap in the UK for example... he automatically assumed I was talking individual products etc... noe just generally cheap there is not cheap here, same.probably goes for Europe too... and you tend to get a LOT of us answers.

Liam

@Aravona I'd edit something like that to include the united-states tag. That way it has context. Search engines will pick up the tag also

WedaPashi

@Liam: About Cricket: As long as I get so see a good game of cricket, I am good with whoever wins. Now a Good Game shouldn't always be a tight one, right?

Liam

I think quite a few of our questions will be locally specific

Aravona

@Liam well he's not in the states hes in netherlands / backpacking somewhere else. But yeah might be an idea.

Though it can be ignored at times.

Liam

09:33

@WedaPashi True. TBH I don't watch a lot of cricket. Cricket is a game for the radio!

Aravona

Ignore location by users not search enginesI mean lol

WedaPashi

@Liam: Thanks for the edit mate

Liam

@WedaPashi no worries mate!

Oh, god, going to Ikea tonight now....

Just came across this

imgur.com/gallery/zChSf

amusing

Aravona

11:03

@Liam Ikea... I love going to Ikea

Liam

@Aravona I'm looking forward to meatballs

Aravona

@Liam awwww yes, love their meatballs

EverythingRightPlace

WTF what was going on there? I want to hear the whole story, that's better than a movie :P
'

Haha was just reading what the whole "banana for scale" thing means... knowyourmeme.com/memes/banana-for-scale

Laughed so badly for the last picture

Rory Alsop

11:46

@Aravona Nooooo. Ikea is the portal to hell (if you read any Justina Robson) and in fact the only redeeming quality is this wonderful song by Jonathan Coulton:

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Aravona

12:04

@RoryAlsop lol....? Can't listen at work I'm afraid

Rory Alsop

@Aravona well worth listening at home. He's a very funny musician. (as an aside, his song Skullkrusher Mountain, about an evil genius's unrequited love is also very good)

EverythingRightPlace

►

That's some serious climbing :D

Liam

@RoryAlsop My girlfriend described the meatballs as being made from "testicle and raccoon"

room topic changed to The Great Outdoors: Ikea is the portal to hell [angry-bovinae] [euphemism] [helmet] [testicle-and-raccoon]

room topic changed to The Great Outdoors: Ikea is the portal to hell [angry-bovinae] [banana-measurements] [euphemism] [helmet] [testicle-and-raccoon]

EverythingRightPlace

lol

On that climb, what's a 5.14- ? I thought in US they rate like 5.14a 5.14b 5.14c and so on

Schwierigkeitsskala (Klettern)

Als Schwierigkeitsskala (auch Schwierigkeitsgrad) bezeichnet man beim Klettern und Bergsteigen eine Skala aus Zahlen oder Buchstaben, die die Schwierigkeit einer Kletterroute beschreibt. Durch die Verwendung einer Bewertungsskala lässt sich die Schwierigkeit verschiedener Kletterrouten vergleichen. Für die verschiedenen Spielformen des Kletterns und Bergsteigens existieren jeweils unterschiedliche Bewertungsskalen, die die für diese Sportart spezifischen Beanspruchungen berücksichtigen. So spielen beim Freiklettern andere Faktoren eine Rolle als beim technischen oder Eisklettern. Während bei Skalen…

Liam

Try this

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Q: How do you compare between different rock climbing grades?

Different countries and rock climbing disiplines have different grading systems, for example the the British trad grade system (e.g. grade HVS 5(a)) and the US point grading system (e.g. 5.9) If I climb HVS 5(a) in the UK, how do I know what this grade equates to in other countries?

rock-climbing trad-climbing climbing-grade

What grade are you wanting to convert to? @EverythingRightPlace

EverythingRightPlace

12:17

They say 5.14-

Liam

It's a trad climb so I'd convert it to a trad grade

EverythingRightPlace

What's this in UIAA?

Liam

which would be V11 7a

V11 :O

basically if you fall your f**ked

@EverythingRightPlace international climbing federation grade

theuiaa.org

EverythingRightPlace

Where do you find this conversion?

Liam

rockfax publish it

EverythingRightPlace

12:19

I can't find a 5.14- on that tables, that's the point

Liam

@EverythingRightPlace What grade do you normally use. In germany I'd imagine they're sport grades?

@EverythingRightPlace In the USA column#

EverythingRightPlace

I don't know how they rate trad climbs here. I guess the same like sport climbs. Everything is rated with UIAA and of course one has to take in mind that he maybe shouldn't do a VII trad if he can do it in sport climbing

@Liam No, there is the 5.14b and so on but not 5.14-

Liam

@EverythingRightPlace Oh, I'd guess a - minus makes it somewhere between 5.14a and a 5.13b

that's normally what a minus means

EverythingRightPlace

hm

Liam

@EverythingRightPlace That's the advantage of the trad grade system you could have a V11 5a. It's easy climbing but if you fall there is no protection

EverythingRightPlace

12:22

That's weird, had no idea they are also using + and -

Liam

@EverythingRightPlace It's quite common. I've climbed 5.14a and it's not quite as hard as that, I've climbed a 5.13b and it's harder than that...hmmm...i'll stick a minus on. It comves form the V grade system

Climbing grades are a minefield

EverythingRightPlace

@Liam Can you explain to me where I find V11 5a on your table

Liam

@EverythingRightPlace ha ha, it's not on there! It's a therotical possiblility but generally as climbs get harder they get more dangerous

Told you it's complicated

:)

EverythingRightPlace

@Liam But therefore they have 5.13c and 5.13d, the scale is pretty fine already

@Liam Now you got me totally confused :D

Liam

@EverythingRightPlace You just have to bear in mind it's not an exact science. It's just a way for someone to tell you how hard they think the climb is

EverythingRightPlace

12:26

That's true of course

Still they should stick to their grading system ^^

Liam

Well it's more complicated by every country inventing their own system

EverythingRightPlace

Like this table says: i.sstatic.net/orzeR.gif

There is no + and - on the US range so I think they should stick to it

So I can at least compare with those tables a bit

Although it's not really comparable because local settings differ a lot

Liam

@EverythingRightPlace yes, and thats one of the problems. If you take bouldering as an example there are sometimes 4-5 fontainbleu grades in one V grade and the lowest V grade is a font 3?! What does that make a font 1?!

It doesn't make sense. The best thing is not to think about it too much.

EverythingRightPlace

maybe you are right :P

Liam

EverythingRightPlace

12:34

gunks?

Liam

@EverythingRightPlace ...emr I'm not sure

:)

tough finding cluimbing memes

EverythingRightPlace

Nonetheless good pic :P

hehe

banana for scale

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Liam

@EverythingRightPlace this is the future, all climbs measured in bananas?

makes about as much sense as anything else

right I have shiz to do

I will return........

EverythingRightPlace

@Liam This climb is a 5+banana

2

Liam

room topic changed to The Great Outdoors: Ikea is the portal to hell....this is a 5+ banana [angry-bovinae] [banana-measurements] [euphemism] [helmet] [testicle-and-raccoon]

Aravona

12:49

O.o ... wtf happened whilst I was away...

Liam

@Aravona Next time....don't leave ;)

Rory Alsop

@Liam hahaha

loving the room tags now :-)

EverythingRightPlace

13:02

this room gets a 9banana score by myself

Aravona

@Liam ... no no I think I might have still left!!

Liam

@EverythingRightPlace I'd say 8b-

....banana

EverythingRightPlace

:p

WedaPashi

banana-measurements :D :D :D

Liam

15:35

@Aravona this:

gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/…

Is ace! I'm totally going cray fish trapping!

Aravona

16:30

Lol I'm glad someone found it useful

EverythingRightPlace

17:59

Next question to the English/American guys: Is there another word for moleskin or where can I buy it in Europe?

Aravona

19:31

Like this?amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/…

EverythingRightPlace

20:55

@Aravona Guess so, just heard of it in this question outdoors.stackexchange.com/questions/4346/…

Aravona

I had never heard of it before so just took a guess

EverythingRightPlace

Ah OK

But I think this is the stuff

Don't know if I can buy it in Germany

Is @WedaPashi still in the office? òÓ

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