The Base Camp

WedaPashi

07:44

Knock Knock! :D

Rory Alsop

08:05

@WedaPashi who's there?

Aravona

morning :)

Rory Alsop

morning @Ara

Aravona

@Rory hows it going?

Rory Alsop

@Aravona Another nice summer morning here in Edinburgh. Sadly I'm in an office, but the view out the window is nice and sunny:-)

@Aravona Good weekend?

WedaPashi

@RoryAlsop: Nobody!

@Aranova: Morning Sister!

How was the weekend guys?

Aravona

08:24

@WedaPashi @RoryAlsop had a great weekend thank you!! Did a bit of camping shopping... replaced our camping stove and brought a new kettle for it... was lovely to get out on the water yesterday too!!

@RoryAlsop ... also in the office. Cloudy out too.

WedaPashi

@Aravona: Good!

Rory Alsop

@Aravona It was gorgeous over on the west coast. My kids got out sailing all last week. Highlight - watching basking sharks going under their toppers at a depth of about 2m!

WedaPashi

Good.

@Kevin: Hi!

Liam

Morning all

@RoryAlsop, I played Ingress all weekend.....

Rory Alsop

@Liam Heh heh -good man. What level are you up to?

WedaPashi

08:31

@Liam @RoryAlsop @Aravona @RoryAlsop: This answer here, See the bullet #7, I dnt knw the exact reason, but I put what I was told. I can't provide any citation for that, so should I edit and take that part off from the answer? I am not sure, And I dnt wanna misguide anyone with something that I am not exactly sure about.

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A: What are the first aid precautions to be taken in case of a snake bite?

There is hardly anything very effective first aid as such, considering the fact that you are 5 hrs walk from any medical facility. I guess I can assume that you will be roaming in rain forests of Agumbe or anywhere in Southern Western Ghats since you referred to King Cobras. Considering the re...

Aravona

@RoryAlsop ... jealous!!! Love sailing... love basking sharks!

Morning @Liam

Rory Alsop

@WedaPashi If it was mentioned on a medical study, on general guidance on an adventuring site etc, then yeah - good to pop in a reference. If not, but you have been taught that, state that. Otherwise - I'd consider removing it if nothing to back it up.

Liam

@RoryAlsop Level 3 nearly 4

Rory Alsop

@Aravona I've never actually seen one. Growing up in Orkney we had loads of pilot whales, dolphins, porpoises, seals etc., but no sharks

@Liam excellent. Obviously the progression slows as you get higher, but definitely worth chatting to your local L8's who will help

WedaPashi

I have never seen a Shark, neither a Dolphin, nor Whales, Seals? Absolutely no chance :(

Rory Alsop

08:37

@WedaPashi In the UK you can't really be far from the sea. We are a very small island :-)

Aravona

@RoryAlsop I've seen dolphins in the wild near Mauritius. .. that's it. My mum was knocked into by a basking shark on the south coast.... I'm pretty paranoid about sharks / sealife that can hurt you... I jumped at a rock with we swam in Lake Garda this year.... my fiance couldn't stop laughing for about 10 minutes...

Liam

@WedaPashi India has a lot more snakes also :)

@Aravona I'm not a fan of the sea either. I went snorkling with my brother in Guernsey recently, we went to one place and I couldn't see the bottom....totally, totally freaked me out!

Rory Alsop

@Liam The kids liked the river snakes we saw in Spain, but we knew no venomous species there. I haven't yet taken them to Australia - I'll need to totally change their briefing. It will be something like: ALL animals here are poisonous :-)

Liam

@RoryAlsop Snakes and spiders get a bad rap. Normally if you leave them alone they're leave you alone

Rory Alsop

@Liam I like snorkeling, but diving deeper freaks me out. Mostly the fear of not getting back to the surface in time.

@Liam I have a cousin who fosters various animals there, but she says that she loses a large number of vicuna and alpaca each year, as they are stupid enough to sniff out snakes and spiders. That said, her kids run round barefoot all the time

Liam

08:49

@RoryAlsop I'm fine if I can see the bottom, when I can't I get all these weird paranoid thoughts about things coming out of the merk....ha ha!

@RoryAlsop What's a vicuna ?

Rory Alsop

@Liam Sealions do like to attack at speed from below. They don't like the taste of human+wetsuit, but they usually discover that too late

Aravona

@Liam not seeing the bottom is an issue for me too... but I try and oush through it all.

Liam

@RoryAlsop As do Great whites! though I don't think their are many in Guernsey! I think I watch too many animal documentaries

Aravona

In Mauritius the water was so clear the bottom seemed very close... turned out when I jumped off the boat it was much deeper... I panicked at that but got back in the qater after a breather and loved it!

Paul Paulsen

Good morning everybody.

@Liam Vicuna´s a kind of llama

Aravona

08:59

@Liam ... want to hear paranoid? As a kid I thought sharks could get me in swimming pools. Swimming with sharks in a tank in Florida helped with that though

Paul Paulsen

@Aravona Why that? Because you figured the sharks would eat the snakes first? ;)

I imagine you already discussed this question here in chat:

it has 4 close votes note

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Q: Comparing 2-person, three-season backpacking tents

I'm looking for a good starter tent for my wife and I. We primarily do light backpacking (anywhere from 3-5 day trips in summer/fall) and would like a tent that balances comfort, weight, and space. Based on my research thus far, we've narrowed down our search to three different options: 1) B...

I think it sounds a lot like a shopping question, but there has been this meta-discussion about shopping questions which somehow stopped from (over-?)reacting on those. Maybe qe should suggest an edit?

Aravona

@PaulPaulsen sorry don't get that... just poking fun at a common childhood paranoia...

Paul Paulsen

@Aravona sorry, I didn´t want to offend!

I just figured I misread what you wrote...

Rory Alsop

09:16

@Liam really soft alpaca. like a quanaco.

Quite easy to keep as house pets, apparently

The kids used to use them as bean bags, and lie against them to watch TV

Aravona

Lol @PaulPaulsen not offended just don't get why a snake was involved in a swimming pool??

Paul Paulsen

@Aravona Well, I misread your post and thought you were afraid of snakes in the pool, and didn´t get why swimming with sharks would help it.Sorry, it´s a little early for me, a least considering how bad I slept tonight...

Aravona

@PaulPaulsen oh that makes sense... lol trust me some of the typos in my work emails this morning have been horrendous.

I'm too tired for server work today. Especially since I need to jail my users and thats broken a prpcess :(

Liam

09:36

@PaulPaulsen I think ppl's answer covers it

2

A: Comparing 2-person, three-season backpacking tents

These three tents are very similar; freestanding, double-wall dome construction. The limelight is a bit heavier with more floor space. The trail light does not have a transversal pole. Any of them should do just fine. I used a similar tent, the MSR Hubba Hubba, for a while and was quite satisfie...

they're very similar here are some pro's and con's

That said I still question the usefulllness of these types of questions

Rory Alsop

@Liam Yeah - I have to force myself to abstain from those. The community currently seems to want them, despite the general SE guidance on good shopping/bad shopping questions.

Liam

@PaulPaulsen I don't agree that this user is after price shopping. He mentions a price but does not say "where is cheapest", so the close votes are invalid for me, that said is this simply asking for an opinion? It's a bit gray

@RoryAlsop Yeah I'm trying to not be so trigger happy. I don't think they add value long term but, your right the consensus seems to be "we want these types of questions". If they become problematic in the future they can always be sorted out then

user116848

Hi! guys

Paul Paulsen

@Liam But the argument on shopping questions is (for me) not only the price-thing, but also that they are very special and short-lived. But I got called out on this once, so I will just abstain. I still think, the question should be improved.

Hi @Arrowfar

Liam

@Arrowfar Hey arrowfar, welcome to Outdoors

user116848

09:42

You guys travel a lot I guess.

Paul Paulsen

When I got the time, I sure try to travel around ;)

user116848

Thanks:)

Liam

@PaulPaulsen Yeah @Arrowfar, work gets in the way mostly...

user116848

Yeah.

user116848

So any of you guys have ever traveled to poles? Just thought I should ask here you guys :)

Liam

09:45

@Arrowfar What brings you to our little corner of SE?

@Arrowfar That's a wee bit expensive for my taste! :)

user116848

@Liam Honestly :) I just saw there were some people here in chat so I thought I should go and talk a bit. I am usually at ELU and ELL sites :)

Rory Alsop

@Arrowfar where possible, yes :-)

@Arrowfar Closest I got was Rothera Base, in Antarctica

Paul Paulsen

@Arrowfar Nope. farthest north I´ve been is Iceland.

user116848

@RoryAlsop Cool :D

Rory Alsop

@Arrowfar My profile on Travel.SE shows just how many countries I still haven't been to

user116848

09:47

@PaulPaulsen Iceland is cool too :)

Paul Paulsen

@Arrowfar It really is. I think I enjoyed it more than I would the poles, but can´t tell that for sure.

user116848

:)

Rory Alsop

Furthest latitudes for me: 60N and 67S

user116848

Wow! you guys are reputed users. I didn't know that :)

Rory Alsop

I really want to go to Iceland, as it is so close, but never managed it yet.

@Arrowfar heh - 'reputed' ?

Meaning 'alleged' :-)

Got to love the English language

I spend a fair bit of time on ELU

user116848

09:50

@RoryAlsop I meant the artificial points here etc. haha

Rory Alsop

@Arrowfar I know - was just playing

user116848

:)

user116848

So you aren't native English Speaker too I guess.

Rory Alsop

@Arrowfar I very much am a native English speaker

Brought up firmly within Received Pronunciation

user116848

I see.

Aravona

09:53

So much chat to read through... so little time... on sych a tiny screen

@Arrowfar welcome and nice to meet ya!

Rory Alsop

@Arrowfar I have actually asked 3 questions on ELU, but I pretty much only answer there

@Aravona And folks thought there wouldn't be enough chat :-)

user116848

@Aravona Thanks! Nice to meet you too :)

Paul Paulsen

@Arrowfar I am not a native speaker...

user116848

@RoryAlsop Yeah I occasionally ask questions there and sometimes answer where I can.

user116848

@PaulPaulsen Yeah?

Aravona

09:55

@RoryAlsop more chat than my s3 can handle that's for sure.

Rory Alsop

@Aravona :-)

Aravona

I might self answer my question on kayak storage soon... been storing ours stacked, padded and... crushing my sisters boxea in the garage.

Boxes*

Liam

@RoryAlsop LOLz

Rory Alsop

@Aravona actually, that is the biggest problem with chat on mobile: the useful tools aren't accessible (like edit, reply etc)

Liam

@Arrowfar I've live din liverpool for the last 15 years so it's a bit 50:50 :)

user116848

09:58

@Liam Well I have traveled to Turkey and some Arab countries too. But I liked Turkey the best. It is just like Europe and good weather too :)

Liam

@RoryAlsop ELU?

user116848

@Liam English language and Usage

user116848

A SE site

Liam

@Arrowfar Ah yeah. I've asked one or two.

user116848

@Liam one or two questions there you mean?

Liam

10:00

@Arrowfar yep

Rory Alsop

@Arrowfar ELU - for linguists, etymologists, and serious English language enthusiasts; ELL - aimed more at those learning English

user116848

@RoryAlsop Yeah you are right :D

Paul Paulsen

@RoryAlsop thanks for teaching me about the "reply" function ;)

user116848

But I still hang out there. ELU chat is very fun and lively sometimes :)

WedaPashi

Have anybody worked on Wireless modules? I am stuck at RSSI to dBm conversion.

Aravona

10:02

@RoryAlsop who needs ELL when your future husband has an English degree... my English gets picked at all the time... and I'm English!

Rory Alsop

@Aravona LOL. My other half is quite...Glaswegian... so I'm definitely her grammar/spelling pedant

Liam

@Aravona You'd don't speak proper like I does

Rory Alsop

@WedaPashi A bit, maybe not in any way helpful, but what's the problem?

Liam

I was just explaining to people in work the term "Lid" in scouse

It's like "lad" as in "alright lad" but loads more scouse "Alreet lid"

Rory Alsop

@Liam The water, in Majorca, don't taste like, what it oughta

@Liam way aye, pet

Aravona

10:03

@Liam @RoryAlsop you done don't know how to talk English proper like a true Southern Farmer like we does! ... good lord that was painful to type

Liam

siarad cymraeg?

unrhyw un?

Aravona

Speak Welsh? Nope. I know one word of welsh

Liam

@Aravona Araf? no doubt :)

Rory Alsop

@Aravona does it start with "Ll"

:-)

WedaPashi

@RoryAlsop: Is there a correlation between rssi and dBm? Some formula?

Liam

10:05

@WedaPashi I don't know what this is

...

Aravona

@Liam ... get out of my head how did you know it would be Araf?? ;)

Rory Alsop

@WedaPashi There is a correlation, as obviously if you increase the output power (which you can measure in dBm) you will increase rssi

Liam

@Aravona Everyone knows araf.. "oh I know a welsh word"...did you read it off the road by any chance?! ha ha :D

Aravona

@Liam of course! Haha. I will need it in August!

Liam

TBF my welsh is less than average. I'm not a native speaker

Aravona

10:08

Last day of the second Test today

Liam

Best welsh word ever is "microwave" this translates as (written phonetically) "poppity ping"

Rory Alsop

I didn't know araf, but I do know heddlu

Not sure if those facts are connected

WedaPashi

@RoryAlsop Thanks :)

Liam

@RoryAlsop Yeah, that's written on white cars with flasshy lights

Rory Alsop

@Liam you usually see them if you don't araf

@Liam Awww - I'm now really disappointed: walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/fun-stuff/…

Aravona

10:13

@RoryAlsop @Liam used to have friends in Conwy one of which spoke decent welsh.

user116848

Welsh seems difficult.

Rory Alsop

@Arrowfar My home dialect (and traditional language) sounds very like Welsh

user116848

So how different are Swedish and Welsh?

Rory Alsop

But everyone who leaves there tries to learn to talk properly

@Arrowfar Swedish is even different to the other Scandinavian countries. I can understand written Swedish/Norwegian and Danish, but the Danes/Norwegians agree that Swedish sounds like Danish while chewing stones, drunk!

:-)

user116848

@RoryAlsop What language? Mine is Urdu. I am fluent in Urdu and English. But still hang out at ELU and ELL sites to correct any grammar mistakes etc :)

Rory Alsop

10:16

@Arrowfar Well, we learn English, as does the rest of the country, but Orkney has not been in the UK very long (400 years or so) so we also learned Norn (very like old Norse)

user116848

And not to offend anyone but some say that French sounds like spitting :-)

Aravona

I love how Welsh seems to have stolen all the consonants from other languages and added them to their placenames... when when speaking English with a Welsh accent they seem to have extra vowels.

It's an intriguing language

Rory Alsop

@Arrowfar I found German so much easier to learn than French

even Spanish was ok

user116848

@Aravona So your husband has a Master's degree in English. That's cool :-)

Paul Paulsen

@RoryAlsop Thats the first time I heard that. I only heard that everybody things Danish sounds like how you speak when you have hot potatos in your mouth. Having spent 3 months in Denmark, I just would like to add "...when you´re drunk." Craziest language ever.

user116848

10:19

@RoryAlsop So you can speak German and Spanish too?

Aravona

@Arrowfar ... you should hear me speaking french... I soubd incredibly... English. France would hate me

user116848

@Aravona :) So you can speak French?

Rory Alsop

@PaulPaulsen I know - I worked there for a while as a student. In the far north. Great fun - but as a beer is half the price of a coke, everyone drank beer. All the time

Aravona

@Arrowfar not a masters. Just a degree

user116848

@Aravona I see.

Rory Alsop

10:20

@Arrowfar Yep - worked in Germany for a while, and lived next door to Argentina for a bit, so it was compulsory

user116848

I see.

Aravona

@PaulPaulsen ... when listening to my mate and her brother speak Danish on Skype... I couldn't follow anything. Can vaguely read bits though

Paul Paulsen

@RoryAlsop I found danish to be kind of a mix between German and english, if you add some of the scandinavian word stems.

Rory Alsop

@Aravona When I go to Paris with my wife, I don't speak at all in restaurants. I let Claire order, as she is very good at French.

Paul Paulsen

@RoryAlsop What means "next door"

?

Rory Alsop

10:22

@PaulPaulsen adjacent to

I was in the Falklands for a few years

Liam

@RoryAlsop I was told that by my friend who's a welsh teacher in school...She lied...It kind of makes sense too because "popty" is welsh for "oven"

Aravona

@RoryAlsop shame on you using English colloquialisms!

Rory Alsop

@Liam It is a good lie though

Paul Paulsen

@RoryAlsop nice.

user116848

Bye guys:)
Will see you again when I visit here :)

Rory Alsop

10:24

@PaulPaulsen It is beautiful and unspoiled by man, mostly. It's the size of Wales, but only has 2000 people living there

@Arrowfar bye

Paul Paulsen

@Arrowfar Bye!

Rory Alsop

@PaulPaulsen The local fauna has no fear of humans, and the landscapes are unique.

Aravona

@RoryAlsop also... my french used to be great... my step dads first language is french. But I prefer spanish... the spanish (and Italian's I've found) just love when you try speaking their language... even when you barely know it.

Rory Alsop

@Aravona Mine is definitely at school level, and is a bit Argentinian/Portugese, but it was fun on our holiday in Spain this month. And you are right - the Spaniards did love it.

@Aravona oh, as an aside: 16th and 17th of July - 4 questions per day average. Our graph is curving up :-)

Paul Paulsen

@RoryAlsop I will remember that. Maybe I can go there some time. I have plans to got to tierra del fuego...

Rory Alsop

10:27

@PaulPaulsen It is really beautiful. If you sail, you must visit

Liam

I speak a little spanish and Italian, my french is appalling.

Paul Paulsen

@RoryAlsop Uh, I haave to be honest, I don´t like the argentinian accent. Although I am used to say "vos" - learned spanish in Nicaragua

Rory Alsop

Falkland Islands - Tierra del Fuego is 400 miles, so a good seagoing yacht can give you a good cruise

Liam

If anyone is into bouldering you really should visit Fontainbleu (just outside of paris) it's like a climbers playground

Rory Alsop

@Liam Ahh - will remember that. I'm more a sport climber than a boulderer, but when travelling without kit, bouldering is fun

Liam

10:30

@RoryAlsop It's just hundreds and hundreds of boulders in a forest. More climbs in about a square km than the entire of wales put together

Aravona

France is on our list... we are doing the whole ' colour in a map of Europe with everywhere we have been ' thing :)

Liam

@Aravona I love doing that

I always try and visit somewhere new

Paul Paulsen

Just tried to find out what *araf* means, and came (along with the right explanation) to this answer:
Arabian Racing Association of Florida!

Liam

TBH, one of my favourite places in the world is scotland @RoryAlsop

@PaulPaulsen It means "Stop"

it's written on the road in Wales

Rory Alsop

@Liam You'd like this sort of thing. Some of those rocks are twice the size of a double decker bus

Unique rock formations

WedaPashi

10:32

@RoryAlsop Lovely pic! A picture is worth a thousand words!

Aravona

@Liam yeah and we started it afresh as where we have been as a couple so we can both visit places we've been seperately again

@Liam @RoryAlsop I am 25 and never been to Scotland :(

Rory Alsop

@Aravona excellent!

@Aravona but we're so close :-)

I'm going to Kent next weekend

Only a 7 hour drive out to near Ashford

Liam

@Aravona Go to Skye (The black cullins)

Beautiful

Rory Alsop

@Liam ^ definitely

Liam

Aravona

10:34

@RoryAlsop have a planned Hogmanay for 2015/16 but I want to visit before then... Ben Nevis is on my bucket list so :)

@Liam will try to! Ive a week off in September

Liam

@Aravona The climbing and walking is world class up there

Rory Alsop

@Liam Took the kids up camping there last year. My youngest doesn't yet climb, but we had a good scramble up to the foot of the Old Man of Storr

Liam

They are very serious hills though

Rory Alsop

@Aravona Good time of year

Liam

@RoryAlsop That's on the opening scene to prometheus you know?

Rory Alsop

10:37

Ben Nevis - not so serious. Someone drove a Ford Model T to the top

Liam

That rocks meantal

Looks like it'll collapse on you any minutes

Rory Alsop

@Liam We had various tourists coming down suggesting the kids would find it too difficult. My youngest (6 at the time) had no problem getting right up to the foot of it.

Liam

@RoryAlsop Yeah, its fine. A little steep

Rory Alsop

My eldest two did a lot of bouldering on some fairly dodgy aretes...

Liam

I climbed one of the cullins too but I can't remember which one, the names were all mental

Rory Alsop

10:38

Steep, but still just a scramble

Liam

and sounded the same

Rory Alsop

@Liam (they are even if you are Scottish)

Aravona

I just want to climb the three peaks... even if it isn't for the challenge :) plus I want to stay in a log cabin in Scotland... very hopelessly romantic.

130 - 4 with a 319 target

Rory Alsop

Just looking at our growth graph. The general trend is for ever increasing growth (users, views etc) but you can see a very definite dip March-June each year, with a decent peak again in Jul/Aug and a dive around October before increasing again for Jan/Feb

@Aravona A proper Bothy? Or a But-n-Ben? Or a Croft? :-)

worth googling all 3

Aravona

Hmmm... seasonal? To be fair I joined in Juneish... but I would have joined any time of year I just found the site so late :/

Rory Alsop

10:43

@Aravona yep - very seasonal

Aravona

@RoryAlsop Shall do ;)

Rory Alsop

Unfortunately we can't share the mod analytics, other than generalisations like these

Is funny comparing with my other sites - some aren't seasonal at all (other than a wee dip over Christmas - guessing folks have something better to do) and some are affected by University schedules (Productivity.SE) but this one is so closely tied with seasonal conditions.

Unsurprisingly

Aravona

Well I like doing stuff all year round... so I'd ask all year round.

Plus with my phone you might find me sat up using the wifi up snowdon to tell you all we did it... though the dogs test jight in the tent was not so good

Rory Alsop

@Aravona would be fun to analyse for types of question by time of year

Well, I say fun

for actuarial / statistical types, maybe

@Aravona ahhh

Aravona

@RoryAlsop geeky fun is still fun

Rory Alsop

10:49

This weekend, my 3 kids will be spending the night in a bell tent with 2 labradors. Luckily , temperatures there make it easy

I'll be in a nice bed

heh

Aravona

Haha... I am spending this weekend being a grown up at a cheese and wine party...

Rory Alsop

@Aravona Ours is an excuse to meet a lot of good friends at my mate Kat's house: Kat Fest. Fully festival themed. So kind of the opposite of a grown up party.

Aravona

Aww damn... yours sounds more fun @RoryAlsop

Liam

@RoryAlsop I'm very interested in winter stuff right now so I don't see why there should be a dip in winter usage, if enough winter walkers, etc. join. That said I suppose there are considerably less winter users of the hills than summer...

Aravona

@Liam ... I need to find the best way to stop my hair freezing on winter walks... it usually finds its way out of my coat and scarf...

Liam

10:59

@Aravona Not something I've experienced I must admit ha ha

Hat?

:)

Aravona

@Liam I always wear a hat in winter but... my hair is 1m long lol

Paul Paulsen

@Aravona I´ve got that problem when riding my bike: My beard freezes and I don´t want it to break ;)

Aravona

@PaulPaulsen a frozen beard sounds more painful than a frozen ponytail lol

Cricket is 140 - 4 at the drinks break.

Liam

@Aravona they've improved since I last checked then

Aravona

The bike helmet for climbing thing is interesting... the few times Ive climbed I had helmets totally different to a bike one...

@Liam just a bit :) target 319

Rory Alsop

11:17

@Aravona yeah, they're usually more like the helmets skaters use

Aravona

@RoryAlsop yeah I always had one with a sort of cradle in it... though if I had to choose between bike and horse riding helmet to go climbing I'd go for the latter... they can take a horse kick to the head.

Liam

@Aravona Yeah don't climb in an actual bike helmet, they're made for different types of impact

Bike helmets absorb the shock of a head hitting the ground, climbing helmets deflect the shock of a rock hitting your head

A rock hitting a bike helmet is likely to still give you serious head injuries

Aravona

@Liam have you seen the bike helmet question?

Liam

Erm, not sure?

Obviously I have as I upvoted the answer

....

That information may of even come from that question....? My brain is scatty...

Aravona

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Q: Can I use a bicycle helmet as a climbing helmet?

I have a bicycle helmet that fits well. Can it be used effectively as a rock climbing helmet? Most climbing helmets have a hard shell that the bicycle helmet does not. However, one of the more expensive climbing helmets, the Petzl Meteor III, appears to have the same construction of a thin pla...

safety rock-climbing

Liam

11:24

good video on the subject

►

Aravona

Lol maybe... it IS Monday. Scatty is allowed

Oh I realised why I got so confused by that guys kcal - cal question on tree bark... was eating a tesco pasta salad the other day and a bag of walkers crisps (meal deal obviously lol) and both had the kcal amount but with 'calories' written next to it... and the correct % for kcal. But then, my drink had it in kcal - so silly to have it displayed two ways.

Liam

12:42

@RoryAlsop Level 4....

Aravona

@Liam what was the game called again?

Liam

@Aravona Ingress, total addict

Aravona

@Liam downloading.

Liam

@Aravona Join us in the green team...It has a name but I can't remember it

Aravona

Enlightened?

@Liam ok I'm green too

I feel this would work better if I could leave the office haha!

Liam

13:11

@Aravona yeah, it's very much a moving around game

Aravona

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Q: Wasp repellent for an object/area?

I have a camera setup outside. Wasp seem to enjoy nesting in and around this camera. I know there are all kinds of wasp killers but is there anything I can do to repel wasps from nesting in and around the area of my camera? Most all of my motion pictures are of wasps climbing on the lens which do...

bugs

Beer trap?

Liam

@Aravona Yeah I'm not sure, DEET will repel anything but it's horribly nasty stuff

Aravona

@Liam citronella + a wasp trap might be a decent combo, avoids the chemically sprays

wicket. 201 - 8 not gonna win this test

Rory Alsop

13:30

@Liam Was that just at lunchtime there? :-)

Liam

13:45

@RoryAlsop yep

nipped up the road and killed a blue

Rory Alsop

@Liam heh. Now what you'll start to see with each level upgrade just how much more power the XMP bursters have. The first time I fired off a level 7 I was very impressed, and then I fired off some 8's in Manchester city centre, which was densely populated with smurf portals. My entire screen was red with explosions - so much fun watching that, and the local resistance complaints in comms#

Aravona

@Liam @RoryAlsop I really want to go home and try this but tonights out of the question :(

WedaPashi

14:01

@Aravona @Liam: Yayy! India won!

Aravona

@WedaPashi well deserved

Rory Alsop

@WedaPashi what was the final score?

Aravona

@RoryAlsop 223 all out

BBC Sports:
Alastair Cook not resigning

There was applause inside Lord's when Cook told the ground he would not be standing down. He also had support for Matt Prior, calling him the best keeper-batsman in the country. More applause. He's talking a lot about the end of the series, a sign he'll carry on until the end of the summer?

Rory Alsop

well done

WedaPashi

14:24

@RoryAlsop @Liam @Aravona: Cook should keep leading the side. He has done a fantastic job in the past as a captain. And, apart from Ian Bell, England side do not have an experienced batsman other than Cook who can play long innings.

Good game it was! Plunkett bowled so well in the second innings!

Aravona

@WedaPashi they did play pretty well but India played better. 1-0 ... where is the next Test, which grounds?

Liam

@WedaPashi Cook needs to be dropped. He needs to play some county cricket and get his form back, piling the pressure on him isn't helping.

Liam

15:41

I am having a bad day

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:(

Aravona

15:59

Why is that @Liam?

I'm level 1 btw... nothing nearby my house though :(

Liam

16:36

@Aravona Ah, don't worry, no need to depress everyone, just work shiz. Anyway, home time :)

Aravona

17:16

@Liam home is good. Don't let work get you doen :) you're awesome

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Russell Steen

19:55

Greetings everyone

Feeds

22:25

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