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user41796

00:24

@Deco - Aussies are one of the things that keep this world sane.... :-) And I also checked out your ELL answer on cake. It's spot on for the US as well.

Deco

00:57

@GlenH7 awesome - thanks for that! I've updated the answer to include USA too

I really like the premise of ELL, I'm hoping it makes it through public beta and takes off as a great SE site

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user55340

03:20

@Deco Does this mean you have Pineapple Upside down cake for weddings?

user55340

Q: How to keep the fruit on an upside-down cake?

I made an upside-down pineapple cake. It consisted of a layer of buttered caramel, a layer of pineapple pieces, and a layer of batter, baked together. I pressed the batter between the pineapple pieces before baking, hoping that it will "flow in" and keep them in place, but the pineapple was alrea...

user55340

Or is this more of a "the cake is inverted?"

user55340

Deco

03:41

@MichaelT It's more of a cake is inverted thing, although - It only looks inverted when we do headstands and look at it. This helps us look at things from a Northern Hemisphere perspective :P

Devdatta Tengshe

04:00

I needed some help understanding how DVCS are used Small Teams. I have used SVN and that workflow always seemed simpler. With Mercurial and Git, how do you maintain a latest Dev version of your software which has updates from everyone? What is the Central Server for say Mercurial?

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Yannis Rizos

06:23

@DevdattaTengshe hginit.com

The first section of the tutorial is specifically for people with svn experience.

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Devdatta Tengshe

07:32

@YannisRizos I have gone through that, and understand the general Workflow. My problems are these: 1) It's OK Pulling from another developer. But what runs on the Server? 2) How Often should developers push to the server?

Yannis Rizos

@DevdattaTengshe On the server, you have your shared repository, where all developers push to and pull from. How often either happens highly depends on what you're working on, your branching strategy, and a ton of other things.

The same with SVN, really. There's no simple answer to "how often developers should commit".

In extremely broad terms, when working with hg/git if no one else needs the code you're working on, then you just commit it (local repo). You'll push it (central repo) only when someone else needs access to it.

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Thomas Owens

12:49

Happy first modiversary, @YannisRizos!

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Yannis Rizos

15:51

@ThomasOwens Hey, happy mod birthday! Let's get drunk and suspend everyone!

user55340

@YannisRizos Still looking for volunteers?

Thomas Owens

@YannisRizos After work, that sounds like a plan. Starting with the staff and other mods?

Yannis Rizos

@MichaelT Nah, it's my mod birthday, I'll just suspend someone randomly.

user55340

@ThomasOwens depends on how fast one wants to get noticed and have it get fixed. If you start from the bottom, many people will get suspended before it gets noticed, but it would be easier to fix. If you start from the top, it will get noticed faster (in theory), but would be more of a mess to fix.

Yannis Rizos

@MichaelT has a point @ThomasOwens. So, let's start by merging all staff members into Goma.

user55340

15:55

(This comes from real experience with various rouge 'wizards' back in my mud playing days - when they started from the bottom, it was easy for us as admins to fix because we had all our in game tools. When they started from the top, we noticed fast, but had to go to the server to fix the actual files and unblock ourselves first.)

user55340

@YannisRizos I can only imagine the mess that would cause. And I'm laughing.

user20683

19:13

@MichaelT exmile.deviantart.com/art/Red-Mage-150028309 ?

user55340

@WorldEngineer Not exactly sure how that relates... I'm just trying to picture someone logging in and finding themselves goma.

user55340

I'm moderately confused as to how one of my answers got accepted. The OP didn't agree with my answer, my answer has 0 votes (no up, no down), and there are other answers that agree on the OP's take of the term, that have upvotes. Yet mine got accepted.

user20683

@MichaelT Rouge Wizard -> Red Mage

user55340

@WorldEngineer Ahh... no... (you did an {at}{name} rather than :id - I thought you were referring to that comment)...

user55340

Back in the old days... picture a cross between World of Warcraft, and Zork. All text, multi player game. Once you 'beat' the game as a player, one would become a 'wizard' and would then be able to write new code for the game and add more to it. Sometimes, the 'wizards' were troublemakers rather than contributors... and we would have to clean up after them.

user20683

19:27

@MichaelT I'm well aware of what MUDs are :P

user20683

EVE Online is probably the closest equivalent in terms of directed possible mayhem

user55340

Never sure how old some of the young ones are...

user55340

@WorldEngineer Did you hear about the accidental war in EVE?

user20683

@MichaelT yep

user20683

Goons got what was coming to them

user55340

19:29

Yep. When I did play, I was a solitude player. Quite nice out there.

user55340

Occasionally do a blockade runner run of rare items, BPs, or skill books that aren't available out there... but otherwise a busy system is 4 or 5 people on local.

user55340

But then I had a crunch period this summer and let the account lapse... I really wasn't playing enough to justify it... and now I'm back to hooked on some other games.

user20683

@MichaelT I swore off MMOs

Jarrod Nettles

@WorldEngineer I still have WP access.

user55340

19:45

@WorldEngineer Terraria and Dungeons of Dredmore.

user55340

20:35

@GlenH7 We need a PLU.SE for programming terms? Though ProgrammingJargon might work better... though some would complain about the camel case - I'm sure there would be a Programing_Jargon counter proposal. I'm just trying to figure out how to get a 'B' in there so we could have 'PB&J.SE'

psr

21:36

Programming Badinage and Jargon?

user55340

boxology

psr

I read it as boloxology, which should be migrated to project management.

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user55340

22:50

Q: lowercase in unix world

As I find that Uppercase are really readable for first letter word separation in long complex names, I tend to give some of my linux files names with some Uppercase. Mostly executables, some directories too. But it's been a few weeks I have remarked that the huge majority off all file names in m...

linux unix

user55340

off topic? migrate to unix.stackexchange? (I'm suprised it wasn't posted there originally - the poster has an account there and doesn't appear to be question blocked given the reps of the questions)