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Duga

07:14

Neither getElementById nor getAttribute have cross-browser support issues, so calling jQuery to do this is pretty excessive. I'm far more familiar with native JS than jQuery, so I lean towards that. I guess discussing vanilla vs jQuery is out of scope for a comment, but this question should cover this topic nicely. — Nelson 32 secs ago

@RohitGoyani You may be able to find help on Programmers, but make sure to read their Help Centre (especially the On-Topic section) first, and if you are still unclear ask a question on their Meta. — EBrown 44 secs ago

Duga

08:15

@EBrown Tool recommendations are specifically off-topic on Programmers.. It may be allowable on Software Recommendations (be sure to read their requirements first) or on Software Quality Assurance & Testing. — 200_success 51 secs ago

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BurningKrome

11:11

So...I was specifically told by a /"Programmers"/ moderator to put my survey question here...but it got deleted.

So, if not here...where? This is a legitimate question I can't find elsewhere on the web...probably because no statistics have been accumulated.

Thanks! :)

BurningKrome

11:35

I was directed here for this question by a moderator of /*programmers*/ (as mentioned in the above post). I'll draw this to the attention of the moderator for approval :)

So, the question (as a developer for developers) is: what kind of code are people cutting, and why did they choose specific languages. I'm specifically hoping to see how many people are fluent in multiple languages, especially the C-like languages (C, C#, C++, Objective-C).

The easiest and fastest way for people to respond seemed to be a survey, which I'll put here.

terdon

Please stop flagging these messages. Flags are for offensive content and the like, not for randomly asking moderators a question. The flags are shown to all >10k reputation users on the SE network!

@BurningKrome If you are wondering where to post something, ask on Meta Stack Exchange.

If your question is a survey, there is no good home for it on the SE network.

BurningKrome

12:03

@terdon Awesome. Thanks for that. I'll try there :D

terdon

@BurningKrome Seriously though, please don't abuse the flag system like this.

ratchet freak

Also your first message looked like a spam post at first glance

BurningKrome

@terdon No worries. I didn't know how else to draw it to your attention :) Thanks

terdon

You're welcome :)

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Robert Harvey

15:09

123

A: Getting more value out of an introverted person

She will however not actively seek out discussions and talk to people about the issues they are facing Who on earth would? She strongly believes people need to come to her. And she's right. No domain expert will spend his time walking up to colleagues to listen to their grievances or ...

This is gold.

Any organization that has at least a passing interest in using their talent more effectively should read this.

ratchet freak

tl;dr don't expect your introverts to go looking for problems to solve

Robert Harvey

tl;dr: don't try to get blood out of a very talented (and already very productive) turnip.

The whole thing just smacks of "She doesn't look busy enough." Typical boneheaded corporate thinking.

Robert Harvey

15:30

-2

Q: Free Coding Day

Let me first explain the idea of a Free Coding Day (FCD hereforward). The idea is to allow one day in a previously designated period of time (one month, one sprint, whatever) where a developer can code whatever he/she wants. It can be completely unrelated to what his team develops. The only restr...

Interesting case... He asked this question here first. I asked him "why did you think this was on-topic here?" What followed was a reasonable discussion about scope. He told me "I found the perfect place to ask." I said "You'd better check with the Help Center and the folks on The Workplace first." He said he did his homework.

Stack Exchange seems strangely impotent when it comes to educating new users about how Stack Exchange works. At the end of the day, it's left to community members to educate new users and clean up after their messes.

Duga

15:52

(After your edit) It looks like you are struggling with putting together the basic concepts of your data table. Perhaps you might ask on Programmers. Read their on-topic page to check if it's a better place. — Rad Lexus 35 secs ago

Thomas Owens

@RobertHarvey I think there's a disconnect. Are users supposed to view the sites as independent communities that just happen to have "*.stackexchange.com" in the URL or a cohesive network? There are things that point to both views.

Robert Harvey

Some principles are true across the entire network. "Real questions have real answers" is one of them.

Duga

@RadLexus: This question would be as unclear on Programmers as it is here. — Robert Harvey ♦ 35 secs ago

Robert Harvey

Ah, Duga. What would we do without thee?

ratchet freak

16:10

@RobertHarvey drown under the number of false referrals

Robert Harvey

Are there really a lot of false positives?

Many of the questions that Duga refers are actually closeable on Stack Overflow under their current rules.

Which makes the feed rather useful to me, as a moderator there.

Robert Harvey

17:02

It's hard to understand how you managed to arrive at the conclusion that single constructors might be a bad thing from the text that you've cited. As good a book as Clean Code is, you might not be ready to read it yet. Books like this are not meant to be a mandate; they're meant to get you to think about how you might improve the way you write your programs, and if you don't have enough experience writing actual code yet to know the difference, this advice is premature. — Robert Harvey 4 mins ago

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Duga

20:29

@ScottChamberlain : The question is more of an architectural one for the first half, and programming related for the second half. I would say that this question is way too broad for Stackoverflow but if it were properly split up into multiple questions, the architecture questions (more conceptual) would be suitable on Programmer's exchange and not Superuser. — Michael Petch 6 secs ago

Robert Harvey

20:43

@Basic: It's only momentous because everyone is panicking over something that hasn't even happened yet (the withdrawal of the UK from the EU), and won't happen in its entirety for years (if it happens at all). It's a nice purchase opportunity for stock investors with cooler heads, that's what it is. — Robert Harvey 51 mins ago

user114359

21:16

This question just needs a gentle nudge over the cliff of low quality:

user114359

-5

Q: jquery library plugin to be used for an ongoing project for background and button

Actually currently am using gradx Jquery plugin but it doesnt allows me to use it more than once on the same page so please suggest me certified one.I am totally lost please guide to the appropriate place if my question is offtopic .Thank you

javascript jquery

jrh

Do you guys think it's deceptive to put an Add method on an immutable list (where Add just returns a new list with the new item) or is that standard practice?

Adam Zuckerman

@snowman it is already on hold

jrh

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn456077%28v=vs.111%29.aspx (ImmutableList(T)) Has an Add method but is that bizarre terminology? We're not adding to /that/ list, we're adding then returning a copy? I'm sort of new to immutable objects.

Is it clearer to make a static factory method like ImmutableList.Create(ImmutableList<T> OldList, T)?

user114359

> share edit reopen delete (2) flag

user114359

21:22

Read: "calling all 20k users, needs one more delete vote"

Adam Zuckerman

22:09

@Snowman I don't have the rep...

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user114359

23:50