I was mostly thinking of the point about just-a-typo questions, that's a case where "we can still be helpful before nuking the question" is not a totally unreasonable position
realistically people will continue posting them because 1) no one flags them and 2) most people who are posting on SO just like helping people, however that is
e.g. if the question needs to be nuked, then short-lived comment answers are tolerable, but if there is no reason to delete the question then answers should always be posted as answers
Obviously software is being compiled by different compilers - that's why compiled languages typically have some standard. That and that Microsoft needs a standard to ignore. But I don't understand what are you exactly asking about. What problem are you trying to solve? If no problems is being solved, your question would better fit on Programmers. — Tomáš Zato27 secs ago
most prominent example I can think of right now is Alf, who flat-out refused to stop writing "Cheers & hth." signatures at the bottom of all of his answers, despite many meta posts and edit wars. Eventually it was made clear to him that this was to stop. His solution was to stop doing it but add that phrase as a prefix to his username, which is fine I suppose
Point is, if a thing is agreed, we are expected to abide by it
so it would be nice to at least get to that stage here
@TomášZato Programmers.SE also expects questions to be about a specific problem of some kind (or at least a tractably small class of problems). We have the same "too broad" close reason as SO does. The actual distinction is that we focus on software design questions rather than debugging/implementation questions. — Ixrec39 secs ago
The main languages I use are C++ and Java.
Both languages support exception handling.
I confess, I may not actually understand exception handling, at least, I certainly don't understand why you would need it.
I want to build on this question here:
Defensive Programming vs Exception Handling?
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hey @bluefeet can you please stop this experiment sooner, or maybe assign someone from the team to watch on Programmers front page? Askers banned or scared off by increased close voting at SO now seem to be spamming Programmers with their senseless debugging questions. This is getting really troublesome. (Alternatively, I can start voting Leave Open on stuff I currently close in SO queue, to keep that garbage from polluting other SE sites) — gnat32 secs ago
sometimes I'd like to help without increasing the amount of my given answers, primarily because I'm not looking for easy reputation. Furthermore I might want to keep high my accepted answer / answer ratio and I've good reason to think that user will not be able to pick an answer. If there was a way to post an answer not up/downvotable that not increases the number of personal answers, I would always answer. — fcalderan17 mins ago
Well I'm not monumentally happy about some random troll I've never even seen before throwing around "rude" and "snobby" out of the blue relating to things he has zero clue about
@Ixrec It's amusing for me to see lightness calling someone a troll for complaining about a site he has frequently talked about as downvoting/closing everything to the point he has made it no longer even enjoyable for me to participate in this chat room. Anecdotal observations...
@bigcodeszzer if you want to have a serious discussion, I'd be happy to take a look at whatever question you're referring to and discuss whether it was unfairly treated in some way
@IkGaOpReisEnNeemMee I read your question, no need to get aggressive. I find that the "beauty" of it makes it unsuitable for Stack Overflow. You could try programmers.stackexchange.com instead. As a side note, I think it hinders readability to use parens like that, however funny it may seem. — nha59 secs ago
it is true that we get a significant number of extremely low quality debugging questions on a regular basis, the sort where the OP doesn't describe the error in any way and clearly hasn't even tried using a debugger and the like
@BarryTheHatchet for a year (?) you have repeatedly and consistently trolled this chat room with actionless complaints about how hard this site is to understand and how people here collectively are trying to close everything, etc. that you are reacting to another user suggesting that is the case with "are you trying to get your messages flagged?" is incredibly ironic to me
I can only tell you that part of the reason I'm on this site is because I don't want to deal with a lot of the problems SO has due to its ridiculous size
what @bigcodeszzer is reporting is a textbook example of "I just want to get my free help; don't care about the community; question is closed but it got answered first so I'll just keep doing it"
@BarryTheHatchet I mean we should not assume that he "doesn't care about anything besides getting an answer" part when we haven't seen any of his questions
it's also a bit ironic that you're implicitly assuming all SO questions get closed for the right reason when you frequently tell us we're closing all the wrong things
but I should probably go look at @bigcodeszzer SO questions now
but you said "many" so to me that's a pattern. and that you don't seem concerned about the pattern but just think the mods are at fault, that's telling.
oddly enough the first closed SO question I see looks like a correct closure, then the second one is closed for not having an MVCE despite seemingly having an (M?)VCE
but I'll stop there because exceptions are more interesting and this conversation has no hope of being productive at this point
sorry bigcodeszzer. I would have thought this is your question: How can I maximize the operation speed for testing purposes? and VERY precise, not at all broad. There's probably only a couple of ways to do this. – Confused
knowing whether the question should be closed and taking the time to write an explanatory comment are largely orthogonal things; I doubt that's any less true on SO
Sometiimes you do, and I've heard c++ is a bit faster when you deal with particular types of programming, where you really need to know whats going on in memory
The main languages I use are C++ and Java.
Both languages support exception handling.
I confess, I may not actually understand exception handling, at least, I certainly don't understand why you would need it.
I want to build on this question here:
Defensive Programming vs Exception Handling?
...
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