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00:03
You gotta love the new design
00:17
oh yeah
it'd be nice if meta looked a little more different from the parent site though
00:56
Yeah. It gets confusing when you're browsing both meta and parent at the same time.
01:10
Hola
02:14
how do people get in the programming zone and stay in it
I have no idea how a person can take a project from start to finish
02:35
I love big, broad general questions.
"How do I do everything?" Kthx bye :)
ohai rchern
There's gonna be a sea of floating heads in here now, isn't there? q:
Joel, you are going to break it
Well if you're going to post it on the Twitters then yea.
02:37
Is this where the party is?
doggie biscuits all around
This is just a red herring, the real party is in Pokemon chat
Pokemon? Oy.
Pokemon.SE... Is there a stack for that?
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Pokémon

Proposed Q&A site for pokemon enthusiasts.

Currently in definition.

oof
02:39
<meta>this chat is kind of awesome, opensource?</meta>
Yay! A bug to report! (;
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what do you like about the chat so much
1. I can see Joel Spolsky sitting in the right corner there...
too late @rchern I already reported it! YOu have 4 more days!
2. I have a chat on my site, but this is much nicer...
02:41
Oy!
Hi Joel!
Honestly, I've not used the chat that much.
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yeah i haven't used it before, i like it so far
oh no, they're going to start metachatting about chat. PLEASE DON'T METACHAT ABOUT THE CHAT.
oh and everyone else
02:41
wow, like always, stackexchange setting the bar high
@Joel burned by the man himself...
I really like the new design for the site
Well, 3 days until I leave at least. But then a few more days.
Is there a place to metametachat about the metachat?
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don't metachat about metachatting!
02:41
this pokemon site proposal is pretty much the greatest thing ever
Joel: Aww, sorry. I'll just read the FAQ then. :)
There should really be something at meta.chat.meta.stackoverflow.com I think.
Joel, you just meta-meta-meta chatted and I am stuck in a strange loop, because of this sentence.
Maybe redirect that to webapps.SE.
Hehe.
02:42
Joel, how many servers are running the entire stackexchange stack?
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i need to upload a good picture of my face, i am left out
@eds or just use a not a face avatar
Joel how do you feel about the programmers site?
hmmm interesting design
02:43
@JoelSpolsky rather
Yes, how does Programmers.SE make you feel.
irc reaches the web
I think the gold and copper medals look like Werther's Originals candy.
@FernandoMeyer IRC and this chat each have their own strengths and weaknesses. Some userscripts lessen some of the pain of this not being truly IRC. But I've grown to like the chat. (:
02:44
hmm
@msarchet I think that prog.se has a lot of questions which are complicated and the answer is often "it depends." That might mean that the answers have to be richer and possibly a little bit more non-deterministic.
Just spotted #editorwars:
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Q: What are your thoughts on online editors?

InaimathiCurrently, I'm an Emacs user, (I'm used to the commands, and I work in a bunch of different languages day-to-day, one of which is Common Lisp, so it's the natural choice), but a recent-ish talk by Steve Yegge has gotten me thinking that an online editor/IDE (if done well) might provide a lot of b...

@Joel, this was epic. (:
@JoelSpolsky yea. I think in itself it a good idea because it gets us programmers thinking about things that don't have the deterministic answers and it gives us somewhere to ask questions that are harder for non-programmers (or technical minded people) to answer
I am pretty sure that once we have different communities other than the original stackoverflow/serverfault model, the questions may start to take slightly different forms, and the way people answer them may change, and new behaviors and community standards may emerge
02:47
@JoelSpolsky what about Ashton?
Why is that tagged [future]?
@rchern Likely because some people think that one day everything will be in the cloud.
@rchern probably because they wanted to discuss things that don't exist yet
Of course at one point people also thought that only large companies and universities would have access to computers, so who knows.
02:48
There's a related question on webapps, goes to find
Hmm, it's actually a little different I suppose, never mind.
@JoelSpolsky i'm impressed on how little servers you use for such huge traffic, still using LINQ To SQL?
This is the most people that I have ever seen in a single chat
@JonasStawski pretty sure it's mostly LINQ. Ask a developer :-) SQL Server and ASP.NET MVC and c# are the reasons we scaled so well
alright, i know this is not the right place, but i don't suppose anyone knows who wrote the chat room software?
@msarchet That's probably because Joel tweeted that he was here
02:51
@RhysGibson why do you think I'm here...
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It's as if Joel Spolsky started drinking whatever Steve Yegge drank. I'm down with it, it's just... new. programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/26747/…
@RobZ It is custom, written in-house.
@msarchet Ditto.
@rchern Well, it is a very nice piece of work, so a hat tip to them.
much slicker than most of the other stuff i've seen on the interwebs before
@msarchet I thought you were interested in programmers.se !?
02:52
@JoelSpolsky which is the correct site to ask questions about stackoverflow from a dev perspective? I'm interested in knowing a little more details of how SO uses LINQ to SQL as I've been having problems with it
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@RobZ check out the other rooms too. click on "all room" button on top of the sidebar
meta.stackoverflow.com ? Perhaps? If you can generalize it then SO Proper?
@RobZ Yea, most web chat rooms are an instant turn-off.
Speaking of which, it looks like you can chat from a webkit view within iPad twitteriffic. This is better than the lack of iOS editing support in Google Sites.
02:52
@george people keep asking things on prog.SE like "how do I do X" where X is some incredibly complicated life skill. Trying to answer literally and directly is missing the point.
Hmm, might be good to point out a couple of links since people are new: If you want to test chat features, hit up the Sandbox room, and if you have chat feedback, there's a room for that too.
@Joel I dig it; it's almost as good as having you blog again full time.
@Joel, I was really interested in your "always have a functional spec" article.. do you think SE is old enough to opensource v1.0's spec? I think it would be very educational! :P
@JoelSpolsky do you ever think Microsoft will wake up and stop relying on their hardware partners and just make a competitor to the iPad themselves? They surely don't wait for Logitech to make mice and keyboards for them
02:53
@FranciscoNoriega I don't think we had a functional spec for Stack Overflow. Jeff Atwood scores a -2 on the Joel Test
@Chris I love Microsoft's mice. The're great.
#George, thanks
I'm using a stored search in fogbugz wiki as the bulk of my functional spec. Keeps it nicely updated and traceable.
@JoelSpolsky funny you two guys being so different partnered up to build something
02:55
@Ryan The Microsoft Natural Keyboard 4000 is still the best programmers keyboard, evar.
Rumor is that Yahoo is shutting down del.icio.us. The founders (and others) are calling for Yahoo to opensource the code instead of mothballing. How practical is that? What's the business case for doing so?
@FranciscoNoriega I refer to it as "the original sin"
@RyanHayes I do too, I've seen way to many Mac users with Microsoft keyboards and mice on their desk
xD
@George amen!
@Joel Are there any plans to make the Business of Software conf videos available on the web?
02:56
@JoelSpolsky But that's a good thing - and one of those differences with other SE sites you mentioned before. There's not just one right answer, but the value of the site is that you can see the good stuff in one place.
I hold that the Model M is the best programmer's keyboard ever.
@RakshitPai Yes, Neil releases many / most of them over the course of the year
Hmm, blog writing time, but don't feel like writing.
@Joel DevDays -- any update?
@JoelSpolsky Oooh, awesome!
02:56
@RhysGibson I am
@JoelSpolsky What happened to the Stack Overflow podcast?
@john I start writing something, look over the internet, find it's been covered really well by others, and then stop writing. I must have 15 or 20 blog posts stacked up due to that. Trying to find fresh ground is really hard.
I wonder where Jon Skeet is?
@vehomzzz if we found someone to organize and run it, we'd hire them and do devdays again. The real trick is getting someone who can organize great speakers.
@JoelSpolsky well at least we have the Data Explorer source code... pretty interesting!
02:57
@Chris it's about 3am where Jon Skeet is (give or take a timezone).
@joel How about bringing back the stackoverflow podcast?
@wanstein podcast started getting too repetitive... i was getting bored listening to myself saying the same things again and again
You would have so much more to talk about now
@GeorgeStocker I never search for what I am writing about, it would make it too hard for me to write, but I can see what you mean. :)
@GeorgeStocker Jon skeet doesn't sleep
02:58
all answers about Jon Skeet will find you, it's true!
anyone here attend TechDays in Canada?
@RhysGibson Exactly. I love seeing interesting views on the careers of developers and how others work. I've learned a lot of shortcuts/productivity tips here.
@John Not necessarily searching for ideas; but having an idea, and making sure the references check out; once I get to that point I inevitably stumble upon Joel/Jeff/Steve/Uncle Bob/Some other prolific writer who has already made the point and made it well.
@GeorgeStocker you can still write about it again
@JoelSpolsky what about something like your old blog, but in podcast format, maybe once a month? I'd love to hear a full start a startup series by you, a programmer who has started successful businesses
@msarchet I could, but then I feel like I'm adding to the internet echo chamber.
02:59
@george the idea is to tell the same thing, differently
@GeorgeStocker Hmm, I haven't had that problem so far, but now I will think about it. You jinxed me :P

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