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user55340

22:00

Q: How can I write a good custom close message?

We only have so many canned, built in, close reasons. There are so many other reasons to close something at times - giving a better message than trying to shoehorn the reason to close something into too broad or primarily opinion. Custom close messages have the significant advantage when it com...

gnat

@GlenH7 2-3 months ago iirc

user55340

[Q&A is Hard, Let’s Go Shopping!](http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/11/qa-is-hard-lets-go-shopping/)

gnat

This question appears to be off-topic because it is about choosing hardware. — GlenH7 5 mins ago

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user55340

22:14

Gah - programmers.stackexchange.com/posts/18817/timeline

gnat

22:25

that thing blows up... +45 (-13 - guess of same gang that managed to downvote straight support question for not giving 'em enough meta drama)

Q: Close Votes review: I'm going on a strike!

I know this question is going to make me unpopular here - but I feel I have no other options. I have been concerned by the size of the close votes review queue for quite a while. When I started reviewing (less than a year ago) this queue already had ~30K questions pending review. Time passes an...

discussion support stackoverflow review vote-to-close

user55340

@gnat did you see my epic comments in that one (I realized I wasn't getting anywhere)

user55340

> (add / show 48 more comments)

gnat

@MichaelT will check (I am out of comment votes today, planned checking tomorrow). But I just saw a truly epic answer

what a bunch of bull* "Having a small queue would hamper blah blah" - as far as I can tell, only CV queues you have experience with are SO and MSO, there's no way you know how it works when short. I for comparison work in Programmers and Workplace queues (besides SO/MSO) - and per my experience, it's not even close to what you are talking about. 14 downvotes at this "answer" look well justified — gnat 1 min ago

enderland

you can run out of comment votes?

gnat

@enderland easy peasy

user55340

22:33

@enderland Its like 30 or 40 or 50 per day... and when you have a super comment MSO question...

gnat

at MSO I run over limit once a week or two

it's political tool over there

enderland

wow. I guess I've never come close

user55340

Shoot, if you just up vote all my comments in that question you'd likely use half your comment votes for the day... and I think that nearly all my comments in that question have up votes.

gnat

@MichaelT well so far I found at least 4 worth voting up :)

@Servy I am saying that a queue that is growing in length for things to be handled is detrimental to the quality of the site and impacts the quality of other sites (people reposting questions that don't get migrated timely). That is the key point I am trying to communicate. The front end manager should call up more cashiers to work - when we are volunteers it means adding incentives or finding ways to help people do the reviews in a less painful way (notifications akin to the suggested edit review, easier filtering, etc...). — MichaelT 1 hour ago

user55340

I'm trying to figure out a way to phrase this as something that won't be an attack... he doesn't touch the cv queue: stackoverflow.com/users/1159478/servy?tab=activity

enderland

22:43

don't bother?

user55340

He's saying "there are no problems with the queue" but he hasn't gone into a close vote review queue in over a month... it impacts us here when things aren't closed timely there.

enderland

you linked the wrong part of his profile btw

stackoverflow.com/users/1159478/…

user55340

@enderland My last hit tab on there was reviews, thus its the 'default' one when I bring up the activity page...

user55340

so it was the right one for me...

user55340

stackoverflow.com/help/badges/1478/reviewer?userid=1159478

enderland

22:50

@Servy you seem to have a lot of opinions on the close vote queue for someone who doesn't seem to use it. I didn't see any votes in your review history either. — enderland 6 secs ago

gnat

guys, would someone be so kind to put a (minor) bounty on that question? I'd like to experiment with how it would fly now. I'd put it myself, but am already at limit with three and won't be able to release for 11 loooong hours

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Q: How to tag questions related to size of Close Votes review queue at Stack Overflow?

Questions related to size of Close Votes review queue at Stack Overflow are rather popular*, how to tag these? Of existing tags, the following seem to apply: review (1,5K+ questions in tag) For questions about the /review path where users can view and act on posts by other users that t...

support tags meta

nevermind I figured a reasonable bumping edit for it

user55340

@enderland I think mine was a bit tamer...

user55340

@Servy while I could be drastically wrong I am of the understanding that the two major reasons that people don't partake in the close vote review queue for people who are otherwise active in the community for the site are: (1) the painfulness/not fun nature of doing reviews and (2) a philosophical disposition that things need to remain open. Failing that, I have difficulty understanding why active community members don't do reviews. If you have any insight that would helping me gain understanding into the minds of those people, I really would like to hear it. — MichaelT 6 mins ago

psr

23:38

I haven't been participate in the site almost at all, but I do little review because it is time consuming to do reasonably well and also painfully dull. I admit it needs doing - but lots of more important things also need doing.