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@amWhy around dec 15th. I'm teaching a solo course, then next semester I'm on an RA to try and finish my dissertation
@Shaun geez think he has enough there already anyway
@Shaun I would also say that the question is asking for personal advice.
 
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08:30
Can you edit a question and vote to close at the same time in the review queue?
@DRF Not exactly, but you can open the question in a new tab and do what you want with it and the comments, before returning to the review queue to vote to close or keep open.
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@user21820 Yeah that's what I figured out in the end. Thanks.
@DRF Note that if you vote on the question itself, you don't get a chance to do it through the review, so it won't count as a review. I don't care, but maybe if you want a badge or something you might haha..
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@user21820 Meh don't really care much. But if I'm going through the queue I do tend to edit in new tab and vote in queue so it moves to the next one.
Yea, otherwise you'd have to click skip to move on.
 
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14:09
Is there any way to sort/sift through my actions? It would be rather nice to go over the close votes I handed out in a day or so. Even better would be to only go over the ones that were actually edited.
@DRF On your profile page you have access to all your close votes. And you have tabs for delete votes, reopen votes, etc.
You can also check the reviews you have done. Both from your profile and from the review queu history.
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@MartinSleziak Ooh great. Thank you didn't notice that tab.
I do not think there is something which shows only those that were edited. (I think there were some feature requests about this.)
Here is a related question on our meta: What can be used for checking on posts you downvoted/closed?
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@MartinSleziak It would be nice but is certainly not necessary. Don't they show up automagically in the reopen review queue or something? I know I noticed one that had some tiny edits and was in the reopen queue
Here is a feature request on Meta Stack Exchange: Notify close voters when a closed question gets edited
@DRF Under some conditions, the first edit after putting on-hold pushes the question into the reopen review queue, More details here: Should I avoid minor edit of a question which was put on hold?
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For 2 I suppose you're right but I don't quite see the reason for closing. The OP does explain what he tried and the question is well posed. It's not very interesting and a little trivial but I don't think it's particularly missing context or work.
@DRF I see your point and I'm always a little uncomfortable using this reason in this context.
I have been pondering whether there should be an additional close reason, something like "question has turned out not to be of lasting value".
Because it gets hard to find the good posts explaining you something between all the isolated straightforward exercise-and-answer posts.
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@Lord_Farin That to me sounds like a very good idea. Moreover in this particular case the OP got his answer (two of them and quite good ones) so there's not much loss. Neither of the answerers got any points off it either and even if they did their rep totals are such that it would hardly matter.
14:41
@DRF Exactly. For those cases where there is no more value likely to come from future reading because there's already five million similar questions anyway.
Also it is my understanding that after a certain amount of time the rep is frozen regardless if the post is deleted.
Sadly however I don't have the time right now to write such a proposal for a close reason on meta.
But if it's an idea people like, please go ahead.
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@Lord_Farin Ahh didn't know that. The answers to that question aren't actually bad though.
By which I mean not only do they answer the question they do showcase some interesting approaches.
 
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Anyone with good good algebraic knowledge want to check the first post queue? A very strange answer showed up in there to what seems a fairly simple question but my algebra is too weak to argue with it coherently. In particular I think he's in some strange way trying to argue for non-abelian groups but it just seems like lots of strange mumbo jumbo.
It might just be that my algebra is very weak though.
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Q: Find the box dimension of $X= \{0,1,1/2,1/4,1/8\dots\}$.

MathboyPlease, can someone help me find the box dimension of $X= \{0, 1, \frac{1}{2}, \frac{1}{4},\frac{1}{8}, \dots\}$?

17:31
@DRF Can you give a link to that question? The queue often moves rapidly.
17:44
I wonder whether the same review audit is offered to other users after somebody skips - but this might fit the description given above: math.stackexchange.com/review/first-posts/1113941
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@user170039 First, the question should be "Undelete?"
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I think that first the question should be undeleted. Sorry for the mistake. In any case, please consider undeleting the above question.
Came across this when cleaning things up, I think it's salvageable. I reworded the question and answer a bit, opening up for more answers.
Maybe it can become a duplicate of some general question, but I think that given the answer that's already there, it deserves to stay in any case.
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Feel free to ping me if you want to know why I want to reopen the question. But for now I have to run.
18:44
@user170039 I am not sure that I see why I should vote to undelete that question. It was automatically deleted as an abandoned question more than a year ago after having been on the site for a year with no votes or answers.
It also looks as though the question is part of a "series" of questions that you were asking at the time. In general, I (in my own personal opinion) don't think that such question series are a very good fit for MSE. If the question is not interesting enough to be asked on its own, then it probably isn't a great fit.
There are times when questions about questions are appropriate; e.g. when a good question inspires another (perhaps more general) question, or when a question gets a good answer but another person has some doubts about that answer. However, I don't see how the question you highlighted falls into either of those categories.
18:59
@Lord_Farin I voted to delete on three of four of the above. But with respect to the history of this site, and the changing ethos over time, I am reluctant to go back much earlier than 2015 to actively delete content. There is soooooo much content in need of closure, and/or deletion, just within the last two years, that at this point in time there is plenty to keep us busy with clean up, without going too far back in time to clean up content that at the time, wasn't highly objectionable.
There is something very odd about the late answers review queue history. I think that you have pointed this out before, @amWhy.
I don't understand how certain items get duplicated in the queue. It is also interesting to me that there is one user is is almost always the "duplicator."
(though that may just be an effect of there being one user who is on that queue four times as often as anyone else---looking in more detail, it seems that seems that there are other "duplicators" in there).
@XanderHenderson I agree. I have brought the odd behavior and circumstances in the late answer review queue up, a couple of times, to @quid. But my impression was that "as long as reviews get handled" that's all that matters. At the time I brought this up last, I believe there was a lot other stuff going on on the site.
It is clear to me that there are browser extensions and specialized scripts being used by at least two users, to "retain" in holding, incoming posts in any number of review queues, depending on how much computing power then have. This may explain why some posts, already handled, are handled again. "Close calls" are going to happen, when two users click almost simultaneously and separately handle the same post. But serendipity doesn't explain all instances.
@XanderHenderson And now it looks like I just "rehandled" a dupe you already handled!
But that's crazyiness, because you handled it about eight minutes before me!
I see. I appreciate the point. Since you're spending much more time with these tasks than I am, you've probably optimised your strategy to maximum effect.
I on the other hand am at volumes where I'm just happy to clean whatever I come across (whether "clean" means "improve" or "remove").
Actually I have more a preference for older posts (>3m in any case) because the activity has usually waned off.
19:16
@amWhy Heh.
For active users, though, @Lord_Farin, I think dealing with more contemporary "stuff" has more of an impact on influencing and educating current users: the sooner consequences, good or bad, are meted out, the greater their impact, so to speak. But you make a good point regarding the waning of activity in older posts.
@amWhy I appreciate that, and I'd say that the review queues are doing a lot for this. I am reluctant to quickly delete stuff, though.
Do you have any tips in general?
I am tempted to vote to close this question for the custom reason "It seems like the problem was an error in computing a limit. With that error fixed, the question seems to be answered by the asker."
@XanderHenderson I'd support that.
19:32
@Holo "Close" is an imperative, as in "Close the door". "Closed" described a completed action: "The question is "closed". So, we need, "Closed @XanderHenderson
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Closed @XanderHenderson
@amWhy I don't know what you are talking about!
You saw nothing!
@amWhy or an adjective! :P
@Holo I must have been imagining things!
@Holo I didn't see anything either, I obviously didn't click on history
@amWhy Yep, this is the only explanation
19:35
@Holo But you can't hide your message at 47862320
>:)
@TheSimpliFire What is 47862320? I just see empty space there!
@TheSimpliFire Or noun, or adverb, or verb!!
@Holo Do you want me to permalink it and paste it here ;)
@amWhy why does English exist :P
It is not my fault! It is the English language that at fault here!
@TheSimpliFire English exists because everyone in Europe thought that it would be a good idea to invade the British Isles.
19:40
@amWhy ten years from now, it will be a conjunction
@amWhy Indeed. Voted.
@amWhy I think I had insisted on the fact that the quality of the reviews most be reasonable. It's not just that they get handled. But maybe you meant that anyway, but I still wanted to stress it.
19:57
@quid Yes, in all fairness, I meant it, but I'm glad you clarified it.
The thing is I believe, but would need to double-check, that there is a grace period for (some?) reviews in order to prevent frustrations of the form: start reading the post to review...pop-up: "The item is no longer reviewable." Now, it seems plausible that if this mechanism exists somebody might abuse it (intentionally or otherwise) by somehow auto-starting to review. If somebody would do that intentionally I'd find it somewhere between a bit silly and in slightly bad taste.
However, it's not clear if there is a significant problem with the behavior and or how to go about establishing it with reasonable effort. It does not seem to be directly disruptive (though possibly indirectly). Presumably there is some precedent somewhere in the network but I did not yet try to find it since there were more pressing concerns on and off site.
What is easier to establish and does get acted on is robotic-reviewing and low-quality reviewing.
20:36
PSQ A copy and paste of a problem statement, with no input from the asker.
Some duplicate votes needed here – both the question and the answer of the possible target are more detailed, not sure why the answer was downvoted.
20:56
@MartinR Will get back to this in ~3 hours. Out of close votes (hence out of dupe votes).
@MartinR The answer on the dupe target is slightly incomplete.
The first part of the argument ends with "...so that $\operatorname{Re}\langle x, y \rangle$." which is missing something.
(probably a "$=0$" at the end).
That looks like an obvious typo to me, I have taken the liberty to fix it.
I am also a little unclear about how that answer addresses both the "if" and the "only if"
Oh, but the question says that one direction is handled.
Hrm...
But if the newer question is to be closed as a duplicate of the older question, then probably the answer to the older question should address both directions of the implication.
But I am also happy closing the newer version for lacking context, so closing it as a duplicate may get the job done just as well.
Unless I am mistaken, the newer question asks about one (the same) direction.
Oh, you are right!
I wasn't reading that carefully.
anyway, time to go teach
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Q: Is it possible to define the Cantor power series tuple-function of infinite degree $f_\omega:\Bbb N^{<\omega}\to \Bbb N$?

Robert Frost Is it possible to define the Cantor power series tuple-function of infinite degree $f_\omega:\Bbb N^{<\omega}\to \Bbb N$? I suspect at the moment this is an open problem but I don't know that anybody has given it any thought. If it can't be defined yet, should we expect the solution to be un...

^^^^ @Did, @user21820, @XanderHenderson, @AndrésE.Caicedo, @CarlMummert, @JoséCarlosSantos et al who are interested.
21:45
O that one again
@CarlMummert yup
I think I am going to stay 18 feet away from it, or more
@amWhy I have already voted to close it.
@JoséCarlosSantos Well, when it's closed again, you can vote to delete ;-)
@CarlMummert Eighteen feet only? You can throw a tennis ball from 18 ft and topple it. ;-)
@CarlMummert @JoséCarlosSantos My notification was mainly just an FYI.
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@MartinSleziak Yes that was the one. Unfortunately I had to run soon after asking. It seems to have been downvoted to oblivion and there is a comment pointing out it's gibberish.
@amWhy Honestly, I don't know the underlying theory well enough to feel like I can have an opinion about that question. I lack the expertise to feel comfortable voting to close or delete.
It tastes like nonsense to me, but I'm an analyst, and my first question is about the topology of the space in which convergence is sought. My feeling is that this is the wrong question, and that the limit is in terms of some kind of direct limit. But I don't know enough to ask an intelligible question, let alone vote.
That being said, assuming that the question continues to have a net score of zero and no answers, it will get Roomba'd eventually.
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@DRF Hello! Just a quick tip, that's kind of nice. When you want to reply to a particular user's chat post, just immediately left of their first line of the comment you want to reply to, and you'll see an upside-down triangle. Click on that down-arrow, and you'll see the first option close to the top of the menu: "reply to this message". When you click on that, a brand new comment window will open up with the message id, after which you can type your reply.
That's what I just did to your last comment; What renders is a comment pinging the recipient, with the subsequent message. And if you click on the grey icon immediately to the left of your username, it will highlight the message one is replying to.
@DRF Apologies if you already knew this!!
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Full answer to delete HERE
@JoséCarlosSantos I reply here to your last comment: "But I thought that this question was an acceptable question, since the OP made an effort to solve it. And what's the problem with making a mistake and then editing the answer?"
@gimusi Aren't you in a curious position to be judging?
@JoséCarlosSantos The problem in my opinion is that you are playing the game in too many tables here. You are on the first line in closing and deleting questions like that, supporting who is against help students to learn also by simple hints and then come here to give a full answer, moreover wrong!
@JoséCarlosSantos Sorry, nothing personal really, I fully respect the position of many people who have ideas completely different form mine and also critique me but I can't accept such kind of behaviour. I hope you'll take into consideration my words.
@amWhy Yes of course! How is possible that a full member of CRUDE come to give full answer after that I'm under continuous attack from a year also only for good hints. It is a totally uncosistent wat to behave.
@gimusi I vote to close lots of questions in which the person who asked them made no effort to solve them. That is obviously not the case here.
@gimusi I am not defending anyone. I'm just saying you are hardly in a position to judge anyone. You give plenty of full answers. It's hard not to notice that you are complaining about another answerer of a question you answered. That's a conflict of interest too.
@amWhy I appreciate you for the consistency, Jyrky and also T.Bongers but here we have reached the maximum or the minimum as you like.
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@gimusi For that same reason, I think that you could have provided a full answer in this case. Besides, I told you that your answer is better than mine.
@amWhy Conflict of what??? Be serious with me. I can accept everithing but not that!
@gimusi Can you please provide one example of a question that I voted to close in spite of the fact that the OP made an effort as this one did?
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@amWhy Ahh genius. Thank you didn't know that.
@JoséCarlosSantos What about that OP but it is only an example. I repeat, you are playing the game on too many tables and it is not a good way to act. You need to choose clearly in which side stay.
@gimusi I'm merely uncomfortable with this chatroom being by a user who answered, call it question A, asking for users to delete an answer from another user who answered question A. You are free to vote to delete, but it is not appropriate to ask others to delete another's answer from a post you answered, unless you answer it after bringing the issue to attention.
@DRF You're welcome!
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@amWhy I think that it is the right place since I read "For feedback/discussion/requests of Close/Reopen/Undelete/Delete/Edit for questions and answers on Math SE", it seems the case to me.
But I've finished now. Good night!
@gimusi That's not an example. I did not vote to close that question and I voted to delete it since it was an useless duplicate.

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