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Simply Beautiful Art

00:44

Very low quality answer

Simply Beautiful Art

01:01

A: Proposal: ban verbatim homework questions which have no accompanying text

Judging from the comments, this proposal may be viewed as wild and potentially damaging to the site. This answer is to put this proposal into perspective and compare it to the other StackExchange sites. Here's the current Maths.SE stats (ref.): This ranks maths.SE second amongst all StackE...

^ Why are we so lenient compared to other sites on our homework policies?

Simply Beautiful Art

01:54

Q: Why don't we use a homework policy... like physics.SE?

I was reading Proposal: ban verbatim homework questions which have no accompanying text and I came upon some startling old statistics. Since 2013, the number of questions on this site has multiplied by more than 6 times. Likewise, the number of answers has multiplied by more than 5 times. We a...

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Did

04:12

@SimplyBeautifulArt 1. Very good question. 2. Being aware of the approach on the other sites makes almost unbelievable some "debates" on our site. 3. Your remark is usually brushed aside by appealing to a given specificity of the practices of the maths community or some subset of it, when compared to everybody else on the planet.

Martin Sleziak

04:59

@SimplyBeautifulArt I am not sure one could answer to your question with few lines here in chate considering that there were endless debates about homework on meta. (Including decision to remove homework tag, while it existed there were discussion how to treat questions with that tag, even some discussions on effort/context could count among posts related to treatment of homework questions.)

But I guess that your post on meta is more specific than your question here in chat - so perhaps there I can see whether you are raising some issues which have not been addressed.

This is also reasonable move before election - highly viewed post on meta can raise candidates profile. And maybe from discussion on the specific issue we can learn more about a candidate than from rather generic statements in questionnaire. (By which I mean that it is quite easy to state in the questionnaire how somebody intends to behave as mod. But seeing the person in actual debate or even interacting with them gives better picture.)

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SmokeDetector

06:51

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in body: Solve $\\ A/det(A)=B$ describe A in terms of B by shadow_wxh on math.SE

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Simply Beautiful Art

11:55

@Did Yeah, that number 2 surprised me

@MartinSleziak =)

@MartinSleziak yeah, more or less

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user21820

15:15

@SimplyBeautifulArt Um I can derive a contradiction there. You're not lenient, right? Anyway I'm not lenient, so that settles the question. =)

amWhy

15:39

This is one of three questions up for closure, authored by the same user. They've only asked three thus far, yet all three are PSQ's. Two of the questions have 4 close votes, this has 3 close votes. Hoping for more downvotes overall three to open them for deletion once closed. math.stackexchange.com/questions/2459040/…

user21820

15:51

This answer is nonsense. Alpha-Beta search has nothing to do with anything the question is about. After all, Alpha-Beta pruning is just a technique to heuristically improve the time taken for a full Minimax/Negamax search. Its performance even depends on the chosen heuristic for move-ordering...

amWhy

@user21820 Needs only one more downvote to open it for deletion (I cast a downvote)

user21820

@amWhy I've close-voted or down-voted or both.

amWhy

@user21820 Thanks! One more downvote on the first two, and we can start deletion. Same with the third, which needs just one more downvote!

By the way, @user21820, @SimplyBeautifulArt: Questions with no upvotes and no positively scored answers, which have been closed are auto deleted by "Community" ten days (maybe two weeks), following their closure.

user21820

@amWhy That's quite a hard thing to achieve!

amWhy

@user21820 I know, but sometimes questions with score 0, -1, -2$ can't be immediately deleted, and in cases where there may be two answers at score 1, one downvote on each answer puts in the auto-delete queue. Just saying that sometimes it's worth cast a downvote on such answers, to late the script auto-delete.

o/ @SimplyBeautifulArt

Simply Beautiful Art

16:06

Daniel Fischer

@amWhy Nine days iirc, and there's a "hasn't been edited [after being put on hold]" clause. If it has been edited, that delays the deletion (to nine days after the edit).

@user21820 Not sooo hard. That's probably still the way of deletion that removes the most questions from the site.

user21820

@amWhy Ah I see.

@DanielFischer That's interesting to know! I guess my sample is terribly biased. I tend to get attracted to bad questions or bad answers that somehow have gotten too many upvotes.

amWhy

@DanielFischer Thank you! I overestimated because I wasn't too sure on how long exactly; I was really thinking ten days. But yes, edits to the question do reset the hours-glass. Big Sigh

Daniel Fischer

@user21820 Take a look at the tools, the roomba deletions still make up way more than half of the listed deletions there.

:40413000 The clean-up script doing those deletions is affectionately known as the "roomba".

amWhy

@DanielFischer almost an anagram of "a broom"! :)

Daniel Fischer

16:14

If we ignore whitespace …

user21820

@DanielFischer Actually, how do I see the statistics?

Daniel Fischer

@user21820 Statistics as in "aggregate numbers"? Unfortunately that doesn't exist. (Not even for mods, boo-hoo)

user21820

@DanielFischer Then I'd have to click one at a time to see who deleted what? I can't believe you did that? =O

Simply Beautiful Art

16:43

@user21820 lol

@DanielFischer =P

user21820

17:14

This is quite nonsense even assuming the correctness of the formula given. Namely his own formula does not imply that 0 has 0 digits... Time to delete.

Daniel Fischer

17:32

@user21820 The time stamp gives it away. The script runs at 3 o' clock (in the night, GMT) [plus a couple of seconds]. What was deleted then was roomba'd.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin answer: What are "Super Numbers"? by Ollie on math.SE