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12:56 AM
@user21820 I know you like logic, so I am guessing that you are going to enjoy this question: math.stackexchange.com/q/4250597/468350 .
Every. Single. Answer. To this question seems to miss the point. A function is a subset of a Cartesian product. It consists of three data: (1) the domain, (2) the codomain, and (3) a selection of ordered pairs in the Cartesian product of the domain and codomain which satisfy certain properties (that is, a "mapping" which pairs every element in the domain to exactly one element of the codomain).
The formula given in the question could define many functions, depending on what the domain and codomain are supposed to be.
ARG!
 
1:31 AM
Hello,
what is a PSQ?
 
Problem Statement Question
 
Thanks
 
1:59 AM
@XanderHenderson this is a typical approach used in many calculus texts (especially old ones). When a function is given by a formula in some intro calculus text, the domain is assumed to be the maximal subset of $\mathbb {R} $ for which the formula makes sense in the exactly the given form.
The modern approach is to specify the domain explicitly instead of asking users to guess it by the formula. In fact the idea that functions need a formula (at least a convenient one) had to be ditched somewhere during analysis of Fourier series.
 
2:11 AM
@ParamanandSingh I know---I teach these kinds of classes, and it always frustrates me how they are treated. Thomas is at least fairly explicit about this at the start (he defines the "natural domain" of a function as the maximal domain on which the formula is defined).
But in the modern formality, a function needs a domain. If instructors were explicit about this, questions like the one cited above wouldn't need to be asked.
 
2:31 AM
@XanderHenderson: with more people like you joining in academia, I hope things would change and such questions will become historical artifacts.
 
 
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5:41 AM
Please close this
 
 
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6:50 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Repeating characters in answer, toxic answer detected (158): Issue with integral for surface area of revolution. by Ariunzaya Marcel on math.SE
 
@XanderHenderson Luckily, Arturo already enjoyed that question:
Which is what you started with. What you need to understand is that your assertion that the disjunctive "loses information, namely that the object must belong to one of them" is quite simply utter nonsense. If you don't get that, you've actually learned nothing here. — Arturo Magidin 7 hours ago
@XanderHenderson I and Jech and many other logicians disagree with your (2), and I think you also miss the point. The core concept of a "function" has nothing to do with set theory or real numbers. If you work in a typical set theory such as ZFC, then you would encode a function as a certain kind of set (which still does not encode codomain contrary to your statement), but that encoding is just an encoding. In a different foundational system you might use a different encoding.
However, all we need to know for this particular question is that functions need a domain (regardless of encoding), and we all agree on that.
@ParamanandSingh Up for deletion.
 
7:35 AM
@user21820: who is Jech in "I and Jech"?
Oh I googled him and it appears he is a mathematician working in set theory, Thomas Jech
 
8:01 AM
I personally found the terminology "removable discontinuity" (that is how I learnt it) more useful than the "modern" point of view, namely that the function is not discontinous at a point where it is not defined. And I never had a problem with the assumption that the domain is meant to be the set of all real numbers $x$ for which $f(x)$ is a valid expression , unless explicitely stated otherwise.
 
 
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11:29 AM
Is this a duplicate? It sure does answer the question, but I wonder if it's too much of a generalization of the original question to be considered a proper duplicate.
URGENT : ONGOING CONTEST QUESTION CLOSE AT THE EARLIEST.
 
11:53 AM
High rep user as well, definitely a surprise given that throwaway accounts are the usual culprits when it comes to breaking contest rules.
 
12:48 PM
@Peter But you are still specifying the domain: it is the largest set of numbers on which the function is defined. The question being asked there is fundamentally about whether or not $x=2$ is in the domain of that function---it is not. There is a removable singularity there (not a discontinuity---a function can't be discontinuous at a point where it isn't defined).
 
@XanderHenderson Please locked this
 
@TeresaLisbon Weird is that the statement is false , considering that it is from an ongoing contest.
@TeresaLisbon This has been asked many times here
 
1:11 PM
 
1:24 PM
about to be reopened - I think there is not enough context.
 
1:36 PM
D1, D2, D3, D4
 
@Peter The question is stated wrong by the OP, actually. It isn't an if and only if , it's an only if. That is, if $x_n$ is prime, then $n$ must either be $0$ or of the form $2^k$.
It's just like : if $2^n-1$ is prime, then $n$ is prime. The reverse is not true (e.g. $n=11$).
 
All the D's are gone @ArcticChar
 
@TeresaLisbon I was very astonished that this should be a prime generator for arbitary large primes. Of course it is not.
@TeresaLisbon Still a long way for a deletion
 
Why is description in profile page greyed out. It appears one can't read biography completely of a user if it is a bit long.
Does anyone else face the above problem?
 
2:03 PM
C1, C2, C3
C4, C5 (all missing 1 vote)
 
@ArcticChar Not anymore!
 
@ParamanandSingh There is a "Read more" button at the bottom of longer biographies, see meta.stackexchange.com/q/368661/196432.
 
Please vote to close; it's a PSQ 5 upvotes and four answers.. Current net score is +3. @Xander two answerers on this question are habitually answer PSQS like this one.
 
Well, that was fast. Thanks @JoséCarlosSantos and @ParamanandSingh
 
@Peter Up for deletion, 2 more delete votes needed ASAP
@Peter Gone
^^^ @Peter, the question failed in the reopen queue; it remains closed.
 
2:44 PM
@MartinR: unfortunately I don't see the read more button. It may be because I see the page on a mobile device. Once they enable full responsive design on profile pages it should work fine. Till then I have to just avoid reading any bio on profile pages.
 
3:21 PM
This has to be a dupe, right? Even assuming it otherwise meets the site's quality standards... Finding max/min value with sin^2, cos^2‭ - Olp111‭ 2021-09-15 14:47:12Z
 
@Peter Sorry, yes, two downvotes to go for deletion. I forgot to call it "downvote and delete" instead of "delete".
 
Ugh... I need to teach now.
 
@XanderHenderson I've marked this as a duplicate.
The other one, I'm not so sure there is an exact duplicate. There's this and this but I wouldn't qualify any of them cleanly.
 
4:22 PM
:59151344 Sorry, @Xander, it was not the linked post that has habitual answerers of PSQ (see immediately below). I'll flag, and be in touch when I encounter one or both of them again.
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Q: Proving $\frac{(x + ny)}{(n+1)} = y + \frac{(x-y)}{(n+1)}$

SlimJoe$\displaystyle\frac{(x + ny)}{(n+1)} = y + \frac{(x-y)}{(n+1)}$ I dont understand how one can go about from the first term to the second. Can somebody please explain the steps? Best regards

 
4:38 PM
Yikes, where did everyone go?! (I presume you are teaching, @Xander, given your recent comment.)
 
 
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Joe
7:01 PM
Please close this question as a duplicate. See this duplicate target.
 
7:25 PM
Ditto... worth keeping? Replace square root by +-*/‭ - Khanh‭ 2021-08-25 03:00:30Z
@amWhy I had a look and took appropriate action.
 
8:24 PM
Really? Too broad? Not about math? New notation yielded new insights into identities‭ - sheppa28‭ 2019-09-15 02:21:15Z
Oh, it is an older question. I didn't notice that. It just got bumped by a new edit. It might not be worth doing anything about...
 

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