Most of DA - DP posted yesterday still require one more deletion vote. @user21820: It seems lately that the focus of CRUDE is diverted away from this basic task.
@RRL: And, in case it wasn't clear, my comment was for those who have a lot of time but don't help with the review queues or the like. Some others simply don't have the time. On average I go through a few posts before finding one that is bad enough to make it onto my lists...
@YuiToCheng Examples: This is not an excellent question, but I wouldn't close it because for all I know it's hard for the asker to find the answer without help. This seems to be a genuine question and I wouldn't close it either.
@user21820 @JoséCarlosSantos @Saad @XanderHenderson OP has made an observation from a special case to prevent no-clue question. Therefore, the community agrees with Jack that it's a not zero-effort question.
@GNUSupporter8964民主女神地下教會 Your comment seems to be an attempt to subtly put down those who disagree with you. Am I part of the community or not? I do not agree that it is not a zero-effort question. Talking about a special case is not counted unless there is actually some non-trivial effort that goes into the special case. And don't ping me if you aren't actually interested in hearing my response/view.
In case that didn't come across correctly, I would be glad to state my views, but I don't appreciate being told as a matter of fact what the 'community' agrees with Jack on. Why Jack, of all users, anyway? And that "Therefore, ..." is not a correct usage of the word, since you can't say you know the true motivations of the people who voted to reopen.
@user21820 Looking back, the wording of my last sentence can be improved. I apologize for that. Whether an effort is non-trivial is not so clear. A small step of a giant can be a great step for others, and we're here to discuss.
@GNUSupporter8964民主女神地下教會 Whether or not there is "effort" is not a criteria that I use when determining whether or not a question is worth keeping around. That particular question, in my opinion, lacks sufficient context.
It could be improved by adding a picture (as has been suggested), though I don't think that would be entirely sufficient, either.
A more complete description of the indicated special case would be good, and would likely provide sufficient context (at least, in terms of my opinion of the quality of the question).
@XanderHenderson hi: I have a question. In passing i've seen references to limitations that users of this room have apparently agreed upon as compromises. Do we record those in a page somewhere? I'd like to familiarize myself with them on the off-chance my activity would rise to the level it might exceed them.
Even better would be some indication of motivation---I don't find the problem itself to be terribly interesting, and it looks like a basic homework exercise to me. As such, some indication of the level of the student would be helpful, as well as some discussion of what other results they know which might be relevant.
@rschwieb I don't think that they have been codified anywhere.
Honestly, I don't know that I have been immersed in MSE long enough to know.
My impression is that there is a "no homework questions ever" vs "homework questions are okay" divide, with the compromise being to close PSQs, but allow homework exercises if they are given appropriate context.
There was also a complaint at one point that closure lead to deletion too quickly, so I think that there has been an effort to give askers more time (at one point, I put together a search for short, closed questions which were between 6 months and 2 weeks old).
(The idea of the two week window was to give folk time to make corrections post-closure).
I am not aware of any other compromises, and I am not sure that either of these has been made formal in any way.
@XanderHenderson I thought someone mentioned something at some point about there being a conventional deletion request limit for posts in this room. But I didn't follow up, and I didn't pay attention at the time.
@rschwieb I believe that is not a compromise, but rather a concession to pragmatics: it requires 3 votes to delete a question, and there are likely less than 100 delete votes represented by folk in this room in any given day (e.g. I can only cast 10 such votes in a given day).
