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12:49 AM
@amWhy I remember you said once that I could get your attention in CRUDE for a chat in Constructive Feedback, so here goes . . .
in Constructive Feedback, 46 mins ago, by Shaun
Is the following okay?
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A: Describing the group defined by $\langle a,b \mid (ab)^2=(abaa)^2=(abbb)^2=e\rangle.$

ShaunBy @user2345215's comment, the group $G$, defined by the presentation in question, is also defined up to isomorphism by $$\langle a, y\mid y^2, y^{-1}a^2=a^{-2}y\rangle,$$ where $y=ab$. This presentation is equivalent to $$\langle a, y\mid y^2, y^{-1}a^2y=a^{-2}\rangle,\tag{P}$$ which defines...

 
@Shaun Indeed. Nice to get an answer to an unanswered question! +1
 
@amWhy Thank you! :)
 
@amWhy Why? Why does he keep changing his handle...?
 
1:13 AM
@XanderHenderson This last change in handle was a mod-determined change (deleting the temporary "joke", and replacing it with his default userid username). Likely in 28 days or so, RF can reclaim his typical handle. (One can change one's username only once per 30 days, I believe.)
 
ah; that make sense
I swear that this question has come up recently. Can anyone find a link?
 
@XanderHenderson I closed the first linked question as a dupe of the second. I'm open to suggestions to revert that vote, or to switch dupe targets.
 
@amWhy I was still searching for a better target, but I'm not finding it. I'm happy with the outcome for the moment. Thanks.
 
 
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4:26 AM
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11:20 AM
@Holo @amWhy @Did: Up for deletion.
 
11:53 AM
Wrong answer left there despite error pointed out years ago.
 
@user21820 open for deletion, Note too: @Did, @JoséCarlosSantos, @AlexanderGruber
 
Thanks!
 
12:11 PM
2533478: Evaluating $\int_1^\infty \frac{1}{x(x^2+1)}\ dx$ and 960736: Evaluation of $\int_1^\infty \frac{1}{x(x^2+1)} dx$. The newer question is better as far as context (or users' own attempt) is concerned. Mainly because it was intended as solution verification question. Would it be better to close it in the opposite direction, i.e., the older as the duplicate of the newer question?
I have encountered the question in the close votes review queue, at the moment there is one duplicate close vote on the newer question.
 
@MartinSleziak Closed in the opposite direction: older of two posts is now closed as a dupe of the newer question, as I agree with your assessment about the better quality of the more recent question.
Perhaps a merge of the answers might be considered, as I saw on the older question, an upvoted answer with 10 net upvotes. But that depends on how varied the answers are on the newer question.
 
Thanks! I should probably work a bit harder - to get one of those shiny gold hammers myself.
Merging would lead to duplicate answers. (At least Jack D'Aurizio's answer on both questions seems almost the same to me. I did not look at other answer, but this one caught my eye.)
Andrei's answer on the newer question is similar to Deepak's answer on the older one.
I do not see a way of merging them without either having (almost) duplicate answers on one question or removing of some answers. So probably it's better not to merg in this case.
 
1:12 PM
PSQs up for deletion:
1, 2, 3.
4, 5, 6.
7, 8, 9.
10, 11, 12.
13, 14, 15.
 
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Maybe this math.stackexchange.com/questions/2658464/… can be encouraged to re-word in a form like "what tools do we have for assessing wagstaff primes / eliminating the possibility it's a wagstaff prime"?
 
1:55 PM
@user334732 You're welcome to comment below the question to suggest the revision, no?
 
2:33 PM
Write me a syllabus to get to the cutting edge of octonions: math.stackexchange.com/q/3035330/29335
 
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3:35 PM
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4:06 PM
Please consider for deletion: 1 2 3 4
Consider closing 1c 2c
 
4:49 PM
The newest, most urgent PSQ math.stackexchange.com/q/3035487/29335
 
5:25 PM
More PSQs: 1, 2, 3.
 
 
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7:25 PM
(Found via Xander's query.)
 
@rschwieb It's ready to be deleted.
@CarlMummert Why do you think that 2c should be closed? The OP clearly displayed some effort in order to solve the problem.
 
Does someone know a dupe target for this?
 
@José Carlos: I don't think that just showing something that doesn't work counts as effort. But I would like to know the source and motivation of the problem.
I mean, I could post any PSQ and then add a couple sentences about some failed attempt - that is not what I think this site should count as "research effort".
 
7:42 PM
1, 2, 3, 4
 
@Lord_Farin I have mentioned one possibility for a dupe target about $|\mathbb R|=2^{\aleph_0}$ in the searching chatroom. Maybe someone else notices my message there and finds some other possibilities.
 
@Martin Thanks!
 
I am not sure whether it is satisfactory, but we can further discuss there if needed.
 
@JoséCarlosSantos Echoing @CarlMummert's comment, I take a the stance that work or effort shown is, essentially, no context at all 99% of the time. That particular question falls into that realm. The question itself is not intrinsically interesting (to me), there is no source or motivation, and there is no reason to believe that the question will be useful to anyone else in the future.
 
 
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9:19 PM
room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk
 
Anyone interested in speaking here, please simply request access, and most will be allowed in by me or any other room owner here.
@CarlMummert I added you to the list of room owners of CRUDE. That doesn't mean a whole lot, but it allows you to pin and unpin, with a few other privileges. Check the "room" upsidedown triangle immediately above the line of icons in the room, on the right hand side. You'll see some options on the drop down menu for room owners.
 
@amWhy: thanks. Any specific reason for the change ?
 
9:37 PM
@CarlMummert Well, I've been wanting to add you to the room owners for awhile. The Gallery status won't change much at all, and is only temporary. It is essentially still public.
 
OK, thanks again
 
9:56 PM
Can I talk?
I can :D
 
DRF
Tries to wonder as well.
Heh so can I.:)
 
I'm ahead of both of you, @Lord_Farin, and @DRF! If anyone stops in and can't talk, just give me a holler!.
 
@amWhy What is the reason for changing the room to Gallery mode?
Oh, and thanks! :)
 
@Lord_Farin It's temporary. Seems a couple users want to be able to speak everywhere, but shut out others from speaking in their chats. Just demonstrating how nice open chatrooms everywhere is.
 
10:03 PM
I thought "shutting out" to be peculiar, requested access to one of those chats, and flagged a chat mod. But chat mods are near worthless. (Always try to deal with chat issues through an MSE mod. Chat mods may come from who knows where, and have no clue about this site.) No one at all except the couple of wanna be private users will be affected here.
 
Hm, that sounds not "nice" in SE terminology. If such persists, one might consider to devote a meta post?
 
@Lord_Farin Very good idea.
 
DRF
@amwhy Thank you too and good night all. Too late here.
 
@DRF good night! Sleep well!
 
10:35 PM
Thanks to @user170039, @gimusi, and @user334732, I earned the gold badge, "reversal", for the first time today!
 
Neat!
(and gamification is evil)
 
@XanderHenderson Hey... I didn't do anything to gain it, other than answer the question over four and a half years ago!
It seemed straightforward to me. $a > b$ if $a -b > 0$. I may have been naive at the time thinking the question was sincere, but, heck, naivete isn't punishable by death, or at least that was my belief, until yesterday!!
@XanderHenderson Yes. It's not my proudest moment!
 
10:51 PM
The site has changed. The approach to questions has changed. There is no crime in acknowledging that.
 
11:27 PM
@RRL you are free to comment, and read. No need to request access.
 

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