I'd also probably need much better bike paths where I live for it to be worth while though

hah

Does this look sane?

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Since @gnat redirected me here for what he called career advice: Is it worth it to learn a language that's not yet feature complete? Specifically talking about .NET Core 1.0 and ASP.NET Core 1.0, since that's the stack I'm currently focusing on

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@NateKerkhofs being an early adopter can be frustrating, since features you're relying on can change in the next version. However, you might also have the time to build an in-depth understanding of the technology, and will be ahead of the pack when it hits the mainstream with a stable release. Of course, it might never take off and you have wasted your effort. It might be more useful to focus on short-term employability rather than a long-term gamble.

My personal strategy encourages trying out new stuff. I generally end up toying with/learning/working on 10 languages/frameworks/technologies/concepts/personal projects per year. I do that because it's fun, not because I get tangible experience. But I notice that even this fairly superficial interaction noticeably broadens my experience, which allows me to quickly learn new stuff as the need arises.

@amon You'd hope you'd retain anything worth knowing that you learnt though, like ways of working etc.

Learn Rust. That'll be the next big thing any day now.

Time to uninstall Avira and go back to Norton, because my computer suddenly turned slow like molasses

@Ixrec ....any day now...

@NateKerkhofs I stick to MSE personally, never gave me any problems

@Ixrec yeah, that's also an option

But my Avira is currently slowing down my computer so bad...

I am trying Avira because it was recommended by Toms Hardware as the best free AV

literally takes minutes just to open anything.

@AncientSwordRage same, last time it came up here the opinion seemed to be that Rust is taking too long to get feature complete and stable, especially since Go did that ages ago and is already a legitimately popular language

@Ixrec I've heard comments that imply that go is more of a toy language and it not really 'feature complete'

@AncientSwordRage Rust is currently at a quite ready v1.6.0. The language is quite nice, like a redesign of C++ with some Haskell mixed in. I hope it takes off, because it has the capability to displace C++ as a safe systems language.

admittedly that may have been in an argument that said it didn't need to be

rust-lang.org

Go deliberately has fewer features than something like C++, the simplicity is meant to be a plus

the only big gap I know of that's arguably a real problem is that it has no generics at the moment

@amon last I heard some parts like the macro and traits systems were a bit of a mess, did those ever get fixed up? (also, is anyone using it?)

@Ixrec That may have come up

that would make sense

calling it a "toy language" because of that is going way too far but it is an issue

@Ixrec Rust tries to be stable now (v1 was released May '15), and we won't see any big changes to the core language. No, significant software in Rust has yet to be written. However, Rust does not have strong corporate backing like Go or Swift, so I'll wait a few years before I evaluate the success of the language as compared to its quality.

@Ixrec I'm installing Norton, because I paid for it and I still got an active license until October

@amon orly

the examples do look interesting

@PreferenceBean C++ has four killer features: C compatibility, RAII, zero-cost abstractions, generic programming. Rust does each of those, and provides way more type safety while doing so. I've seen too many segfaults to not long after Rust-like lifetime management. Also, & vs. & mut is far safer than & const vs & in C++.

@amon sounds good

we'll never find out what "Baki bonus anda tidak mencukupi" means =(

^_^

apparently it means:

> "Your bonus Tray insufficient"

that only raises more questions

yes

sorry about that

Google suggests “balance” instead of “tray”

that was Google

ah, interesting -- it's different without the quotes

wtf

if (DateTime.Now.Month.ToString() == "1")
{
    cBulan = "01";
}
else if (DateTime.Now.Month.ToString() == "2")
{
    cBulan = "02";
}
// ...
else if (DateTime.Now.Month.ToString() == "11")
{
    cBulan = "11";
}
else
{
    cBulan = "12";
}

excellent

That's DailyWTF-level code, starting with the hungarian notation and the fun behaviour around midnight at the last day of the month

hungarian can be forgiven if it's not systems hungarian

negative, star command

what the frak.. it was spring-like a minute ago.. where did this blizzard come from?!

it's still middle of february

you are correct

for a minute I thought Blizzard was the latest Java framework

:(

could at least have encoded the URI properly

What was that anti-login about?

How's your day going Duga?