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12:02 AM
this reads more like a comment, see How to Answergnat 2 hours ago
hahaha he's everywhere!
(found on HNQ)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit envy?
 
@gnat hardly. you're comma splicing.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I put my rep where my mouth is, if you didn't notice. Now, go and "balance" it, you seem to love questions with multiple answers
 
Is this the right chatroom for discussing coding questions for technical interviews?
 
successfully resists temptation to say yes
Man, that was tough.
 
12:08 AM
@gnat Not only is counteracting other peoples' votes wrong, but it doesn't seem relevant to this discussion.
 
Nice, anybody found some cool algorithms recently?
 
@gnat Yes, I love questions with multiple answers. The site thrives on them. Is there some problem with that nowadays?
 
Yes, when they're bad and hiding good ones.
 
@AaronHall It still didn't work.
@AaronHall That's why answers are sorted by score by default. This is the first time I've heard anyone complain about being able to have more than one answer per question, of all things. If that's what gnat is complaining about. I still can't actually tell.
 
That doesn't make sense, and don't be so literal.
^^^^ no comma splice.
 
12:11 AM
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Q: Lots of duplicate answers on a question

rdansThis question seems to have about 10 answers that are duplicates of the accepted answer or of another answer, most of which are one line of code answers that don't add anything new: How to convert byte[] to string? Of course most of them were answered at the same time, so that explains why it h...

 
yes, let's just delete those
maybe?
 
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A: Vote to delete answers as duplicates of earlier answers

gnatDuplicate answers don't fit well with the stated Stack Exchange mission "to make the Internet better". Site visitors have to waste time and effort trying to figure which one is more (?) correct and what is the purpose of repeating same answer over and over again. This leads to frustration and dis...

 
o.O
@AaronHall :D
@gnat "Duplicate answers" is not even almost the same as "multiple answers".
You seem to complain more than contribute, gnat?
only four answers this year while you have posted more comments dictating SE protocol than I can even count
 
and the swords come out
 
12:18 AM
> Look at Ask Different; look at Mathematics; these sites are about as well-run as they come.
Ask Different? Yes. Mathematics? Meh.
 
ok, packing up to go home, ciao!
 
@RobertHarvey ;p
yes Mathematics appears to suffer from a "I'm a professor shut up" problem
 
Maybe he's thinking of Math Overflow. Math Overflow makes the Marine Corps look like a bunch of pansies.
 
the thing with professors is that they think they know it all, although this is not always the case
last year I encountered a guy with three PhDs and numerous published C++ books, who taught at a higher education establishment..... who could not tell the difference between precedence and evaluation order and was getting an SO question very wrong accordingly.
(:P)
 
ok, now I'm really leaving for real. I promise you'll miss me when I'm gone. :P
 
12:31 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Thus illustrating the fundamental difference between Academia and Industry.
 
@RobertHarvey yeah guess so
@AaronHall haha me too - bedtimez
 
I thought Mathematics suffered from a Hint: problem
not that I hang out there much
 
They suffer from a few other things as well.
But the Hint: problem is the one I find most irritating.
 
@RobertHarvey I think it's just a different culture. Their audience and topics allow them do things that wouldn't end up well at a typical programming site. Think of Code Golf, their audience and topics allow them operate differently than "classical" SE sites. Same at Math.SE
 
True. It's just not my cup of tea, that's all.
I asked a question there once. I made it clear that I wasn't a student; that I needed an answer, and not just a hint. Needless to say, my suggestion wasn't favorably received.
icanhazhintz
 
1:01 AM
@Martinn absolutely it is. Not the right site but in chat you can discuss anything - most folk here are professional coders in industry... not much activity usually outisde of 9-5 US
 
 
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2:31 AM
I thought so, but it wasn't my place to say.
 
user114359
2:52 AM
 
user114359
@whatsisname this reminded me of you.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit some people make mistakes - and sometimes all the qualifications in the world don't stop it (read: The terribad answer Joel gave on VBA which he was one of the principal implementors of)
in any event, mass effect and a glass of Brandy. Tomorrow I have to fix a fence. Fuckin' ell
 
3:28 AM
@gnat sorting by active is messed up. It even puts deleted posts above regular ones.
 
 
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8:10 AM
The programmers.stackexchange.com site is a better place to ask this question. — Adam Porad 20 secs ago
 
 
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10:09 AM
@AaronHall it may be that folks like you and me are an exception and that things are indeed okay. Consider Stack Exchange "food chain", askers => feed answerers => feed voters => feed googlers. You see, web search visitors are on top and they use default sort, by votes, which hides a lot of quality issues...
...If most voters use this sort too, it would mean our concerns are just our personal concerns. OTOH if most voters use active, it vould mean rating content for googlers is damaged and system has a problem indeed. That's why I asked for stats on this, I think it's important to know
 
11:01 AM
the only time I've ever changed the sort was on a PPCG question or two where the funky rules made score order inappropriate
 
Got much better things to do with my time than cleaning up your comments @gnat. Do I really have to explain to you what comments are for?
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Meta commentary has no place in comments. Please stop polluting the site with it.
...are you by chance blocked at Stack Overflow for asking questions like that? — gnat 5 hours ago
BS like that are pointless, and borderline rude. And are getting flagged. A lot.
 
12:21 PM
Dec 8 at 22:01, by Jimmy Hoffa
user image
 
haha
(here it is then)
that whole situation's a mess. the not-answer was "converted to a comment" ... but it's a tip/hint, so it shouldn't be in the comments either. and none of it suggests "getting it wrong" (it's just a lack of effort) so the whole "expert gets it wrong" thing is not there. disappointing.
 
Meh, I honestly didn't remember what he posted.
 
ooh, you're not 10k on SO ... HOW THE TABLES HAVE TURNED
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yuck, I don't want 10k on SO; grody FGITW rep
 
no you prefer to extract rep from people by confusing them as to the site topic
 
12:30 PM
I would have stopped contributing to SE altogether years ago if I didn't find other sites (CR then here) to migrate to. I just don't care to try and be quickly correct, it's not interesting..
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :P look at my answers and tell me the rep isn't deserved. (Also tell me the rep would have been earned on SO given the quick-fire nature ...)
 
wikipedia begging is getting annoying now
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit beats the hell out of the alternative; commercially funded "truth" O_O
 
> If everyone reading this right now gave £2, our fundraiser would be done within an hour.
that's obviously a lie
it would be done "right now"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit both are lies, the maintainers are sleeping, they probably wouldn't get to turning it off for hours
 
> Autumn is a feminine given name derived from the Latin word autumnus, meaning "fall" or "autumn".
You ask me once in a while what I "have against Americans"
I have nothing against Americans - but I dislike obvious and absurd forced Americanisms like this
Why on earth would "fall" be listed first, there?
I tried to point out to the author that (a) Autumn and autumnus are obviously linguistically derived from "autumn", and its US synonym "fall" w.r.t. seasons of the year is by-the-by, and (b) Wikipedia has a global audience anyway. Wasn't having any of it because "the name Autumn is most popular in the US", which I find to be a rather odd defence of this bizarre position.
There, have £10 from me Jimmy (Wales).
fuck what
use the proceeds from the store to fund the site you silly gits.... then you wouldn't need my donation..............................
 
12:40 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit so the complaint is that that sentence ends in ""fall" or "autumn"" rather than ""autumn" or "fall""?
 
@Ixrec Yes.
The content of the sentence doesn't really matter so much I suppose, but the fact that there exists a person out there who strongly believes that it must be rendered in that order ... that matters more to me! This individual must be fixed, and saved from his USisms!!
Meanwhile. I can list eight SE users to permaban and fix this chat problem once and for all, Shog :)
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A: Is it a pangram?

Thomas KwaPyth, 7 bytes L!-Grb0 Explanation: L lambda (implicit b:) rb0 Convert b to lowercase G Lowercase alphabet, "abcd...z" - Set difference, all elts of first that aren't in second ! Logical NOT (The empty string is falsey) Try the full-p...

good god
Don't golfing languages take the fun out of golfing? I think they're cheating.
 
1:46 PM
The answer is here. I don't think this question belongs here, it might be answered thoroughly with examples at programmers.stackexchange.com. — Sifu 40 secs ago
 
 
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6:31 PM
@amon: That's a really excellent answer. Going to bookmark it and probably steal it for some things. With attribution, of course :P
 
7:40 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit my superpower is writing good, on-topic answers to off-topic questions.
Also, “disalike” is perfectly cromulent word.
 
Leave it to @twitter to demonstrate in its own survey that it has no idea why people use Twitter. https://t.co/AFc8njltNf
@amon :D
@amon nah but ISWYDT
 
8:40 PM
Nice read.
@King Programmers is "drawing board" programming(e.g. What is the best way to implement a database?.). While stackoverflow is for questions like "Why doesn't this piece of code work?". — Luke Melaia 10 hours ago
[sigh]
 
 
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10:24 PM
@RobertHarvey Not true then?
edumacate me
 
10:42 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit They're both Too Broad. The "Why doesn't my code work" question is specifically off-topic on Stack Overflow unless it includes the expected behavior, actual behavior and an MVCE (shortest code sample that reproduces the problem).
 
@RobertHarvey well I don't think he meant the question would literally only contain that text
 
And yet, so many Duga questions look just like that.
That's the problem with migration recommendations. So many people make such recommendations without considering whether or not it's a good question to begin with. Then their question just winds up getting closed on two sites, not one.
 
11:18 PM
well you know what the solution to that is, dontcha
 
shut down SO
 
@ratchetfreak well I was gonna say rename Programmers.SE but okay
 
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A: Which computer science / programming Stack Exchange do I post in?

YannisBefore you choose a site... First, make sure you're asking a good question. Some questions are off-topic everywhere, and there's no guarantee that a site exists that will take your question. Good questions: Are clear and understandable. Have a specific problem statement Don't ask for lists o...

Edited, since Gnat keeps linking it.
 
might be more constructive to edit gnat
> Have a specific problem statement
That's misleading for Programmers ("but you said to explain the problem with my code!" - don't you keep closing these as off-topic and telling people to post it on SO instead?) and for Code Review (which doesn't accept code with problems at all)
 

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