The Whiteboard

user15026

12:04 AM

Did I just TeamView into a customer's machine to help an older lady with her Microsoft Word settings? Yes I did. And I'd do it again. (The benefits of working for a small ISP, you can do stuff like that for some older customers and no one calls it "out of scope".)

user20683

OC ReMix #3245: System Shock 'Digital Horrors' [Intro] by Sir_NutS

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user20683

@ThomasOwens I seem to recall you like EDM

Duga

12:21 AM

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it seems to concentrate on the hardware side, not (yet?) on programming. I suppose Arduino is the proper place to ask. (Isn't that where Raspberry programmers hang out?) — Jongware 47 secs ago

Lightness Races in Orbit

ooh, LinkedIn's email spam finally sent me a decent looking job opening

ugh, when a classmate pops up on LinkedIn and they're a "director"

what am I doing

user55340

@LightnessRacesinOrbit how about a former entry level contractor that you worked with showing up as "director of technology at Friend Finder"?

user55340

12:41 AM

Piano Phase

Piano Phase is a piece of music written in 1967 by the minimalist composer Steve Reich for two pianos. It is his first attempt at applying his "phasing" technique, which he had previously used in the tape pieces It's Gonna Rain (1965) and Come Out (1966), to live performance. Reich further developed this technique in pieces like Violin Phase (also 1967), Phase Patterns (1970), and Drumming (1971); this latter work marks his last use (so far) of the phasing technique. == CompositionEdit == Reich's phasing works generally have two identical lines of music, which begin by playing synchronously, but...

user55340

Piano Phase (solo) - First solo performance ever

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user55340

pianophase.com

Lightness Races in Orbit

@MichaelT ahaha I read that as "FriendFace" to begin with

user55340

Hmm... adafruit.com/category/168 - I've gotta think about this and the projects that I could do with it.

Lightness Races in Orbit

@MichaelT oooh

user55340

12:53 AM

@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yea.

user15026

@MichaelT that looks like a lot of potential for fun....

user55340

One of my projects is a hue (the color changing light) weather app that does a time based "this is what the weather will be today" 'movie'

user55340

So its in effect a 0 spatial x 1 time dimension display. If I can get that as a 1 spatial, I don't need the time dimension.

Jimmy Hoffa

Am I the only person who's never had the "offer-on-the-spot" thing at any job? I mean everywhere I've worked they couldn't do that if they wanted just because of policies. Even though a variety were basically clearly going to make an offer.

user114359

@JimmyHoffa The only time I had that happen the hiring manager said "I'm going to give you an offer" but the actual letter came the next day.

Jimmy Hoffa

1:06 AM

@enderland you spend too much time in here. I've had technical interviews and have learned if they don't do it up proper I'm unlikely to take an offer from them - but lots of places don't do technical interviews as a matter of course

@Snowman I've had very clear indications along those lines but never an outright "Come sit down, we're going to make you an offer right here" because those things are constructed by a combination of HR folks I never interview with

@Snowman my first job was working on an old 90's news website where the original creator had an "articals" section which was referenced endlessly throughout the back-end code to the point that fixing it would have been too heinous so it just lived on.. page after page, referencing...articals...

You all suck, I'm still the only person who has touched any queries for the SEDE post other than @maple_shaft (good on ya). Oh well. Flagator Drone coming in for a landing...

6

A: Community list of Data Explorer queries

Content to moderate List here any queries that pull questionable content that may need moderator flagging or user moderation such as close votes/deletion/open votes/undeletion/edit approval etc. Comments stating "+1" with little other content ...excluding closed posts downvote comments (com...

user55340

I had some that you pulled into others.

user55340

Btw, clicking on this at work made me go "hmm..."

user55340

17

Q: What is the most effective way to start a riot in my prison?

For an achievement you need to stop a riot of 50 or more prisoners in your prison. However, I seem to be ineffective at pissing off my prisoners to a point where they riot. So what would be the most effective way to make them rage to the point where they riot?

prison-architect

user114359

@MichaelT gotta love Arqade clickbait titles

user55340

@Snowman You remember where I work... right?

user55340

1:21 AM

So yea... one of those "I wonder if anyone is monitoring the network here" things.

maple_shaft

1:44 AM

@JimmyHoffa If I wasn't so busy at work right now I would just write queries for fun

SEDE queries are fun

Ryan Chong

hi all

maple_shaft

hello stranger

Ryan Chong

i am a bbackend developer, may i ask that

what is the latest technology that web development should use

maple_shaft

Ask on the site?

Ryan Chong

because i feel asp.net is sucks... need to coordinate html c# and the javascript together

yes

maple_shaft

1:46 AM

no that would be closed

Ryan Chong

sometimes it not working well

maple_shaft

you can ask here in chat though

you just did actually

user114359

0

Q: Web development consideration

i am a asp.net programmer which i learned 7 years ago, since i graduated, i worked as backend developer which focus on the c#. However, i have a mind set to start up the web development business which provide solution to the end user. May i know what kind of technology i should use since i am out...

web-development asp.net html

Ryan Chong

yes

user114359

Probably that question, but here

Ryan Chong

1:47 AM

it ask me to come here so i am here to ask

because i am intend to start up my web development business

i am intend to make the offline system online

maple_shaft

hmm

Ryan Chong

i realized my country many offline system, so i am intend to convert it to online

make everything online is the good goals for the business

user114359

@RyanChong Given what you asked in your question, and please don't be offended, but I think you need to learn a bit more before starting a business. You really need to be an expert on those systems and how to run a business

maple_shaft

it has been years since I have used .NET, I am afraid my knowledge is outdated

the last web technology I used was ASP.NET

Ryan Chong

same here

i am using .net also

but i am seeing those beautiful web page , i am afraid that if i dont chase the latest technology i will be outdated

maple_shaft

1:49 AM

asp.net/mvc

user114359

I don't do much with .NET either, but I think you really just need to pick up the different technologies (ASP.NET, Linq, C#, etc) and just code. Do some projects, learn how everything works.

maple_shaft

If you are going to stick with Microsoft stack, then learn ASP.NET MVC

it is more current

user114359

Personally, I learn by doing. And the best way to "do" is to pick up a project that uses the technologies you want to learn and make it work.

user55340

I'd suggest picking one new technology per project.

user114359

@MichaelT what's that site that RobertHarvey is always linking with programming projects and challenges?

Ryan Chong

1:50 AM

michael, we are programmer, we no need to learn so many technology

maple_shaft

Yes, or you will overwhelm yourself

user55340

If you go "Oh, I'm going to learn noSQL and node and everything else" at once you'll get overwhelmed.

maple_shaft

then you lose motivation

Ryan Chong

we need to focus on one technology, and make it be expert

thats why i am intend to pick up one technology and master it

maple_shaft

@RyanChong Well expert is a strong word

Ryan Chong

1:51 AM

make the skills godlike

user55340

> "Seymour Cray, the designer of the Cray supercomputers, says that he does not attempt to exceed engineering limits in more than two areas at a time because the risk of failure is too high. Many software projects could learn a lesson from Cray. If your project strains the limits of computer science by requiring the creation of new algorithms or new computing practices, you're not doing software development, you're doing software research."

user55340

softwarequotes.com/showquotes.aspx?id=554

maple_shaft

@RyanChong Remember this wisdom my friend, "Perfection is the enemy of good enough"

user55340

Perfect code never ships.

user114359

Another good idea is once you are intermediate on a particular language or technology is to look at a popular open-source project that uses it. Pick it apart, see how the experts do things. Maybe you can fix a bug and submit a pull request, that's good experience, a good way to network, and you can put it on a resume.

maple_shaft

1:52 AM

no need to be expert or godlike

just be good

user55340

Never shipping code means that you will have difficulty selling it in the first place.

user114359

@MichaelT never shipping code means never getting paid

Ryan Chong

thats why i need to ship my skilsl now

any web development skills is good currently?

user55340

Though I joke about that... seriously, there's lots of code "shipping".

Ryan Chong

need to know what is the advantage for each technology , so i can adapt it and apply it

user114359

1:54 AM

@RyanChong just about any skill is useful. Web, mobile, even "old" stuff like desktop and mainframe are still in heavy use.

maple_shaft

@RyanChong ASP.NET MVC is a good thing to learn on the server side if you are familiar with ASP.NET.

Ryan Chong

will it be more simplied?

i dont like microsoft stuff because they focus on microsoft friendly not user friend

maple_shaft

@RyanChong Also learn Web Design, specifically HTML5, CSS3 and Responsive Design

Ryan Chong

ly

maple_shaft

@RyanChong Hmmm

i hate to break this to you. but Microsoft is the most user friendly platform out there

Ryan Chong

1:56 AM

is it? But dream weaver is the best when i in college ~.~

visual studio lag like shit and very hard to learn last time

so i am feeling pain when i in college

maple_shaft

Eww Dreamweaver... i remember that

user114359

@maple_shaft Truth. I use different development environments, database tools, etc. and the MS tools tend to be the easiest to use.

Ryan Chong

got any web developer here???? lol

user55340

MS has a nice, integrated, end to end system for their technology.

user55340

I've a Java back end web guy.

maple_shaft

1:59 AM

I am an architect so I dont code anymore, I just draw diagrams and go to meetings

lol

Ryan Chong

ok time to work see u guys

will take a look on mvc

user55340

My front end design skills are... utilitarian. Fortunately, making it look pretty for internal applications beyond the basics isn't a necessary skill. Proper use of jQuery makes it look better than 90% of whats out there on the internal web as is.

maple_shaft

@MichaelT That is true, the Internet doesn't set the bar very high

user55340

@maple_shaft and the intranet sets it lower.

maple_shaft

@RyanChong good luck

user55340

2:02 AM

The thing is, it doesn't need to look fancy when your users are all other developers in other groups.

user55340

And trying to make it look fancy for the non-developers in other groups confuses them more.

maple_shaft

i take fancy as a matter of pride

user55340

Last two projects were both front-end-ish. Both jQuery based. Current one is for other internal developers. The other one was for one user and she didn't have big demands.

user55340

She was rather surprised it worked as well as it did.

user114359

> Please don't cross-post, particularly with terrible questions.

user55340

2:05 AM

(the user was the woman who maintains all the forms that the department has to fill out - updating old forms as needed... so its basically "upload pdf or word document" and make sure that it becomes available on the right date - jQuery with a date picker... other parts were all gravy)

user114359

Comment just came up on a CV review

user55340

Given the opportunity, I'd like to go back to that application and reapply what I've learned about jQuery in the past 2 months on it.... but it works.

user55340

Oh... today I found out I am an svn expert.

user114359

@MichaelT congratulations. I am too, which means I get to fix other people's mistakes.

user55340

@Snowman heh. I'm the go to person for fixing all the little things now across multiple groups.

Duga

2:26 AM

@Lundin: Doesn't look on-topic here to me. Questions such as this are the reason for Programmers.SE's existence. And I don't see what "their meta" has to do with it; I was talking with three site moderators and two high-profile contributors. Is their opinion for some reason unsatisfactory to you? — Lightness Races in Orbit 36 secs ago

Lightness Races in Orbit

oh great thanks for that Duga

yes okay you all caught me exagerrating. SLIGHTLY>

user55340

@Duga you know you need to just make it so that all of gnat and Light's comments get posted here. ;-)

user114359

@LightnessRacesinOrbit Any question at that site might get closed for completely arbitrary reasons, no matter with what some people on their meta might say. It may be that the question is on topic there (today/depending on mood/location of the planets) but I still wouldn't recommend anyone to use that site. The question is on-topic here, so there is no reason to move it anyhow. — Lundin 12 hours ago

user114359

Astrology determines what is on-topic at Programmers.

user55340

@Snowman is Astrology on topic on Astronomy?

user114359

2:33 AM

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A: Should we add non-physical and/or astrology questions to the off-topic list?

In no way, shape, or form should astrology be on-topic. This should be added to the FAQ to make it perfectly clear. However, I think we should make it slightly more generalized in the off-topic list something more along the lines of: Questions about any field that is normally categorized as "o...

Duga

2:50 AM

I wouldn't want to be mean because you asked your question well, but this should be on Programmers.SE, not on SO, because it is opinion-based and about "which framework should I use". — Jacque Goupil 12 secs ago

user55340

@Duga and Programmers.SE is for opinion based and what framework should I use?

Lightness Races in Orbit

3:19 AM

Sep 22 at 13:32, by MichaelT

Duga is a bot that posts likely problematic comments mentioning programmers that come from SO.

user114359

@LightnessRacesinOrbit MichaelT is a bot

Lightness Races in Orbit

@Snowman bottom*

user114359

4:00 AM

Should I buy this for myself?

user114359

amazon.com/LEGO-Millennium-Falcon-75105-Building/dp/B00WI0PJE2

Lightness Races in Orbit

aw man, I thought I'd just debunked the moon landings

suddenly realised "earthrise" made no sense whatsoever

turns out the moon's libration is somewhat greater than I thought - enough for a periodic earthrise observable from about 20% of the lunar surface!

there goes being famous

Robert Harvey

4:22 AM

Note to self: never fly with Qantas.

user114359

@RobertHarvey meh. As long as their avionics don't use IE6 you'll be fine.

Robert Harvey

Where else are they cutting corners? I'd like the wings to stay on, thank you very much.

user114359

4:35 AM

@RobertHarvey it still gives me the same error and there is a better place to post this. — user202729 2 mins ago

user114359

@RobertHarvey > "Not the site I moderate..."

Robert Harvey

If it were a C# problem I could have solved it in the comments. Java is just different enough to make me an invalid.

user114359

@RobertHarvey I know Java well but the poor quality of the question and incorrect formatting (check the history) makes me not care.

user114359

It's not like the formatting help is hidden when you ask a question

user114359

Wiring error (item the first) and way too much trust (item the second) - NEVER work on a circuit without VERIFYING that it's really, truly dead - or you may become that way sooner rather than later. Take a voltmeter and see if the light circuit is dead with the 20 amp circuit "off" - if so turn the 20 amp circuit on and see if it's dead then. One of those things is probably not true. — Ecnerwal 2 hours ago

Robert Harvey

4:41 AM

@Snowman Psh. Young people think they can get anything they want instantly by pushing a button. Then they're surprised when they get rebuffed.

user114359

I love the electrical questions on DIY.SE. "The wiring is all jacked up, I didn't test the circuit was dead, and it arced when I did something"

user114359

Rule #1 about houses: whoever built it was drunk and bribed the inspector.

Robert Harvey

That is pretty amusing.

deostroll

7:12 AM

What are some great meaningful and insightful search queries I can give against Moby Dick text.

^ that file size is slightly huge - so you are warned...

The idea is to demonstrate a search algorithm - okapibm25 - its not the best fit. However the idea is to get someone started with text mining.

Plus for starts, can someone briefly explain that story... :|

Robert Harvey

"Call me Ishmael."

Moby-Dick

Moby-Dick; or, The Whale (1851) is a novel by Herman Melville considered an outstanding work of Romanticism and the American Renaissance. A sailor called Ishmael narrates the obsessive quest of Ahab, captain of the whaler Pequod, for revenge on Moby Dick, a white whale which on a previous voyage destroyed Ahab's ship and severed his leg at the knee. Although the novel was a commercial failure and out of print at the time of the author's death in 1891, its reputation as a Great American Novel grew during the 20th century. William Faulkner confessed he wished he had written it himself, and D. H....

Duga

8:54 AM

well Please ask these question in a more relevant forum.. Programmers will be a more relevant place for this question.. — Minato 15 secs ago

@GuidoG The creator of language/sql server engine. Your question is why and not how? I suggest to ask this question in programmers.stackexchange.com

Programmers Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for professional programmers interested in conceptual questions about software development.

— lad2025 21 secs ago

Ignacio

9:52 AM

Would it be OKAY to use a single repository class to do many operations,

Like start workflow, CRUD to Database, CRUD to active directory in a single respository class

then I have web services that do nothing but call these repositories

OR is it better to separate each layer ?

Lightness Races in Orbit

11:44 AM

Ignacio

Image not found ?

Lightness Races in Orbit

12:00 PM

I found it just fine

Duga

Welcome to Stack Overflow! No-one here is a webmaster. SO is a community moderated q&a platform. Questions should have one or more working answers, and focus on specific programming problems. Your question however is a very broad architectural topic. You might find an answer over on Programmers, where this kind of question is more on topic. — simbabque 29 secs ago

Ignacio

12:16 PM

@LightnessRacesinOrbit I would never troll with reputation as yours :)

enderland

12:50 PM

@JimmyHoffa I think I also underestimate how much technical knowledge I might have conveyed through the related discussion, too

@Snowman hackerrank.com is what robert mentions all the time, I think

Lightness Races in Orbit

1:12 PM

@Ignacio :P

Jimmy Hoffa

1:33 PM

@RyanChong learn OWIN - ASP.NET MVC has moved to using it largely and all the web stuff really has as it's the latest hosting technology - something of a replacement for ASP.NET - more underlying than MVC but more extensible and easy to attach into the whole application pipeline. It's the latest MS stack web tech.

owin.org

@enderland I'm sure; I just mean regarding why you expected them to be more technically demanding. Most interviewers touch on technical stuff very lightly and more then not just poke rote stuff "What are some design patterns" "Why do you use a String(Builder|Buffer)" "What are the 4 words that every member of the church of OO has memorized to claim their membership" "What's the difference between is-a and has-a"

@MichaelT true, you get a cookie

oh I almost forgot

Happy Coffee Day

Damn daylight savings, it's all bright and sunny and crap when I'm driving in now, I don't feel all bright and sunny yet, I need that extra hour of slow dark for my body to rest on it's feet

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