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user20683
12:58 AM
@JimmyHoffa
 
user20683
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
7:09 AM
@MichaelT Looks like it. He's not even trying any more, IP trail goes directly to the previous incarnation. You missed an opportunity for a helpful flag. /cc @GlenH7
 
Jimmy Hoffa
Jimmy Hoffa
7:21 AM
the names he always used showed he was never trying
 
 
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Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
9:16 AM
 
 
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user41796
12:00 PM
@YannisRizos - enjoy another 10 (useless) MSO rep, that was a good answer. It's a little sad to hear about our recent troll non-friend not even trying this time around. I had figured the thrill of the "hunt" added to the enjoyment. Kind of pathetic when they give up on that.
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
My rep... my precious rep...
@GlenH7 Ignoring in chat is excellent, the only problem is that whoever you're ignoring will probably continue doing to others what they did to you to get you to ignore them in the first place /awkwardly long sentence. There's probably some value in mentioning flagging in my answer but... I kinda hate the chat flagging system.
Also, I just noticed that the screenshot reveals some mod-only features. Oh well.
 
ManishEarth
ManishEarth
12:21 PM
@YannisRizos it's OK if you reveal those
It's not OK if you reveal <censored>
 
user41796
1:21 PM
@YannisRizos - I think the only mod-only aspect was the kick this user. Room owners have the ability to remove other room owners, or at least I have the "remove as room owner" option when I click on Jimmy or other room owners.
 
user41796
RE: ignoring users - yes, that's the downside of that approach. In my case, the person I ignored wasn't doing anything worth flagging; it was just annoying. They kept expecting Jimmy & Michael to fix his borked code without doing the things they had already suggested. Eventually, I got tired of the pleading "do my contest work for me!" and hit ignore. Flagging in that case actually would have been more abusive of the system than what that person was doing.
 
user41796
Thinking about it, seeing others' replies to the ignored user is useful. If it keeps going on and on and on, then you can always drop a comment to the others indicating you've ignored the annoying user.
 
user41796
and it looks like gnat is back. He's started leaving comments on posts again.
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
@ManishEarth I know it's ok (and I wouldn't really care if it wasn't ;), I'm just not interested in getting spammed with "oh, you can kick users from chat" comments...
 
ManishEarth
ManishEarth
@YannisRizos ah
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
1:34 PM
@ManishEarth It's MSO, you know pointless comments will appear sooner or later (usually sooner)...
 
user41796
MSO could almost use a down voting system for the comments
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
MSO's discussion oriented nature generates a lot of noisy and pointless comments, and we can't really rely on the mods to clean them up (especially since most of them moderate SO; their hands are more than full).
 
ManishEarth
ManishEarth
@YannisRizos Switch to Discourse!
 
 
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Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
3:08 PM
@ManishEarth Have you spend any time there? I only checked it out briefly when it first appeared, is it worth a second look?
 
ManishEarth
ManishEarth
@YannisRizos Not yet. Just checking it out. However, I am going to install Discourse on a server this week-ish
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
@ManishEarth That might make for an interesting blog post...
 
ManishEarth
ManishEarth
My uni has a web and coding club; currently we had a mailing list where folks would share and discuss. That's getting a bit unwieldy, so switching to Discourse
@YannisRizos There's still time, It will just be installed this week and I'd only have enough experience with it to write a review at the end of this summer
@YannisRizos But yeah, I'll consider writing one then (remind me in a monthish) :)
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
@ManishEarth Summer's fine. So is fall, or even a year from now. Nothing urgent about this, just throwing ideas out there, hoping one will stick.
 
ManishEarth
ManishEarth
:)
How is Discourse related to ProgSE though?
 
Yannis Rizos
Yannis Rizos
3:14 PM
@ManishEarth It's an interesting new toy, and I think our crowd would be interested to learn more about it.
 
ManishEarth
ManishEarth
ah
 
 
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user55340
5:14 PM
@WorldEngineer there is some interesting aspects to the sudoku generator copyright question - the copyright on algorhitmically generated derivative works... and the answer to the sudoku question is likely "not copyrightable."
 
user55340
A computer cannot claim copyright (there is no creativity involved), and a program that can generate any puzzle doesn't not grant the author of the program a copyright on every puzzle that it can create.
 
user20683
5:37 PM
@MichaelT I'm not arguing that it's not an interesting question.
 
user55340
6:08 PM
@WorldEngineer And its certainly not on topic here...
 
Jim G.
Jim G.
10:23 PM
Ultimately I ended up being fired July 2012 for constantly pushing quality and craftsmanship (and ironically the reason why the CIO told me I was being let go was that my development skills weren't very strong!). I'm now in a non-developer position at another company (well a tiny bit of SQL but it's mostly using proprietary applications), and it's doubtful that I'll look at another software job because I'm so tired of dealing with situations like this. When you're the only one who sees a problem, you BECOME the problem... — Wayne M Feb 25 at 12:25
^^^ Darn. I ALWAYS enjoyed reading @Wayne M 's opinion on software development. It's unfortunate that he doesn't really stop by anymore; but it's equally remarkable that his rep continues to soar (currently at 10.7k).
 

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