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Alvar

19:01

why do everyone close vote 11.10 question that still can be answered?! askubuntu.com/q/306967/10698

I understand close votes on problems in the system but this mustn't be closed...

Like why aren't all questions with the 11.10 tag closed then?

FEichinger

11.10 is EOL.

New questions about EOL releases are supposed to be closed.

jokerdino

>LEL

The Lord of Time

pokes @Alvar with the EOL stamp

Alvar

but it's answerable

jokerdino

but it's EOL.

The Lord of Time

19:04

@Alvar EOL releases aren't supported here save for EOL upgrading

Alvar

and has really nothing to do with 11.10 :P

The Lord of Time

@Alvar doesn't matter

FEichinger

Mint questions are also answerable.

Alvar

lol

The Lord of Time

@FEichinger but offtopic

@Alvar anything EOL loses support on here

anything not official derivative also doesn't get support

FEichinger

19:05

@TheLordofTime Yep. Which is what I'm saying: Just because it's answerable, doesn't make it on-topic.

The Lord of Time

@FEichinger i know i was using the highlight to finish your thought ;)

Alvar

well it will be the same answer for a long time

The Lord of Time

@FEichinger remember, i created the EOL notice for hardy, oneiric, lucid desktop

:P

Alvar

the question hasn't reached EOL

The Lord of Time

@Alvar the release they're asking the question about has

Alvar

19:06

just the distro..

The Lord of Time

E: Unable to locate package tor-browser <-- that could be because E: No Repos

Alvar

@TheLordofTime but not the program and not the question and not the answer..

@TheLordofTime no

The Lord of Time

@Alvar we can argue here, or you can move it to meta

TBH i'd like to see this in meta with mods answering it

Alvar

@TheLordofTime torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en

The Lord of Time

because mods make the rules, not me, not you, not several of us, the mods and the community team

Alvar

19:07

but this one makes no sense..

jokerdino

i make my bed in the morning. 'nething wrong?

FEichinger

@TheLordofTime Aaactually, "several of us" are supposed to make the rules. In fact, that's why we have meta in the first place.

Alvar

;)

The Lord of Time

@FEichinger true, but the support of eol stuff and what determines EOL offtopic questions isn't exactly our decision

@Alvar advice: don't try and be even joking about those things, i'm a tad grumpy :P

Alvar

@TheLordofTime ok sorry bro ;)

FEichinger

19:08

@Alvar To me, it very much does.

The Lord of Time

@FEichinger it makes sense to me too (see the retag)

Alvar

well I joke about everything and doesn't take it to hard if you joke about me or my believes.

jokerdino

@Alvar that's quite funny

The Lord of Time

@Alvar i'm not, i'm just in a meh mood

Mitch

@Alvar 11.10 don't get security updates, and I personally think that it should be upgraded. But +1 for answering :-)

Alvar

19:10

@jokerdino well if you are the only one that like macs, use mostly windows, and is coding in java. And also hang in an Ubuntu community that hate all of these things, you have to be a bit relaxed...

@Mitch well, it's still answerable the answer will eb pretty much the same for eveyr versyion..

o got an idea

lets make it universal for every release!

Seth

@Alvar Hmm. That certainly might.. I'll have to look at it.

Mitch

@Alvar I agree, but I tried answering a couple of questions like that, and they got closed before I could blink, so I kinda gave up on them.

Alvar

updated!

@Mitch I understand, but this could work! :)

@Seth how about now?

Seth

Hmm.

Alvar

@Seth crap just noticed it's a duplicate...

Seth

19:17

I wanted to play the file over the server, not serve music. But that's still quite interesting.

@Alvar Eh?

Alvar

@Seth askubuntu.com/q/6522/10698 :'(

@Seth well you can have the server on the server. And then connect via the local ip (or global ip if u have a domain name) to use it

u can also add new radio stations from the GUI.

all that work for nothing! :( it's already been done, at least it's a good answer to a soon to be closed question

Seth

Can I get some support for this feature request? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/173694/…

@jokerdino Spam: askubuntu.com/a/306980/44179

The Lord of Time

19:38

@Seth i flagged it as NaA

but yes it is spam

Seth

It's that site again too.

Gone now.

And that username.

The Lord of Time

uhoh...

helpful flags: 666

3

^ that was on my profile page

Seth

:O

Alvar

that's not much ;)

j0h

LOL, trying to respond to a comment on a post, I saw "2 more to go" and thought it was a time limit, when really it was in need of 2 more characters.

The Lord of Time

19:41

@Alvar but the 666 is the evil.

so it's EVIL helpful flags.

Alvar

@TheLordofTime define evil?!

The Lord of Time

@Alvar the hellspawn

Alvar

@TheLordofTime Microsoft headquarters ?!

Seth

@j0h LOL. Yeah that can be a problem sometimes too.. sometimes they go bananas because of it.

Alvar

&#127820

damn

hwo do you do the banana figure?

The Lord of Time

19:45

@Alvar in a way yes.

Alvar

@TheLordofTime for me evil is where Unity is developed.. but that's maybe just me..

The Lord of Time

@Alvar except commandline is better than unity :P

Alvar

@TheLordofTime WINDOWS IS BETTER THAN UNITY!

;)

I actually hate unity more than windows..

The Lord of Time

@Alvar BLASPHEMY!

Alvar

@TheLordofTime ;)

Jorge Castro

19:46

UNITY IS AWESOME

Alvar

IT'S THE WORST THING EVER CREATED.

it's useless and uses more time than anything else. (maybe windows 8 is worse but havent used it)..

Seth

@JorgeCastro THIS

Jorge Castro

That's funny it's pretty useful for me

Seth

@Alvar Whoa, whoa, whoa. Napalm is better than Unity? O_o

Jorge Castro

I click on icons, and it launches apps

Alvar

19:48

@Seth yes

@JorgeCastro well it first displays apps you could install instead of the ones you have installed :S

that's weird..

Seth

@Alvar Only in the dash.. and you can turn that off.

Jorge Castro

mine shows both

Alvar

huh..

Seth

I love the dash.

Alvar

I hate Unity more than anything, the bar looks like an old and ugly version of the mac launch board..

Seth

19:49

🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌 <-- Anyone see bananas?

Jorge Castro

Looks nothing like a mac to me

The Lord of Time

nope

Alvar

@Seth no squares

Jorge Castro

and I find the bar useful

The Lord of Time

just unicode boxes from crap, @Seth

Jorge Castro

19:50

@Seth squares here

Alvar

@JorgeCastro well it's just uglier..

Seth

Yeah.. Only Windoze folks see bananas I'm guessing..

Jorge Castro

shrug, that's just your opinion

Alvar

@JorgeCastro exactly.. :)

@JorgeCastro I'm glad you don't flame and rage about it, a lot do..

@Seth I'm on windows and only see squares..

Seth

Huh.

Good grief flags.

Jorge Castro

19:51

@Alvar Most people only rage at reasonable things

Alvar

@JorgeCastro tss

Jorge Castro

if your argument that Unity sucks is "I don't like the colors" then there's really not much to argue about

Alvar

@JorgeCastro well hating Unity when others love it tends to draw up feelings

@TheLordofTime no

Seth

@JorgeCastro What do you think of Windows 8?

Jorge Castro

I only used it on a tablet

on that surface thing

felt half-finished

Seth

19:53

It is.

Alvar

@JorgeCastro well it's also that it's slower than the classic desktop, it takes up more screen than classic, you dont have a "desktop" like the classic desktop. I love the classic desktop.

Seth

MS has a new way of releasing half finished things and then patching in an update.

@Alvar Slower? Are you kidding me?

Alvar

@Seth no

Jorge Castro

a) It takes up way less screen than classic

I measured

Alvar

@JorgeCastro not for me..

Seth

19:54

@Alvar Heh. You must have an old computer.

Alvar

@Seth no

Seth

Weird.

Jorge Castro

jorgecastro.org/2011/04/20/giving-space-back-to-applications

Seth

It's blazing fast for me.

Alvar

well it takes longer to search for an app and find it than using the classic interface..

Seth

19:55

OK I'm lost.

Alvar

and having direct buttons in a bar is easier for me.

Seth

Are we talking about Windows 8 now?

Alvar

@Seth yeah nvm man..

no unity vs classic

Seth

Classic doesn't have a search by default I thought.

Alvar

@Seth yes

Jorge Castro

19:55

it doesn't

Alvar

@Seth u dont need it

Jorge Castro

you can put shortcuts on the new launcher

Alvar

u have all your apps in a menu instead

Seth

So how can search be faster in Classic?

Alvar

@JorgeCastro yes and u can do the same in teh classic..

Seth

19:56

If it doesn't even have it?

Alvar

@Seth u dont search u click it..

@Seth u dont need it, since u click and find it..

Seth

So instead of Super -> typing -> enter you do click click click, hover, click?

Alvar

no click, click find it

or use the shortcuts in the upper bar

Seth

I've never had that experience with classic.

Jorge Castro

nested menus aren't my idea of a good time

Seth

19:57

It was always "I'm lost in a maze of menus ATM, I'll get back to you later"

Alvar

@JorgeCastro well I never use them..

i always used the shortcuts in the upper bar

Jorge Castro

If people liked nested menus they'd use Yahoo instead of Google

3

"First, computers and technology, then operating systems, then Ubuntu, then askubuntu."

or you could just type in google and go where you need to go

Seth

@JorgeCastro Who doesn't just do Alt-D now-a-days?

Alvar

@JorgeCastro not the nested menus but the clean desktop with upper and lower bar, upper for your shortcuts and apps and system info and lower for windows..

Jorge Castro

that's a waste of space, I like it combined into one

Seth

19:59

@JorgeCastro Agreed

Jorge Castro

Seth

Unity's keyboard shortcuts are way better too.

Alvar

@JorgeCastro that's not the classic desktop dude.

FEichinger

There's many things wrong with Unity. Dash is not one of them.

Alvar

I don't like Unity can we leave it at that?

I found awesome last week, it's kind of cool

Jorge Castro

20:00

well, you're the one talking smack about it

if you're going to make stuff up about something at least be able to defend it!

Alvar

20

A: What different desktop environments and shells are available?

Awesome Features Awesome is a desktop environment which masquerades as a window manager. By default, it comes with a basic top panel with a systray that can hold your favorite applets from Gnome, Xfce, etc. There are several well-known "widget" libraries which extend Awesome's basic functi...

@JorgeCastro i am but u dont agree with me so it's kind of pointless to argue..

Seth

Are you on mobile or tablet?

Alvar

when we just disagree about evrything about Unity..

Jorge Castro

I don't agree with you because you're making statements like "WINDOWS IS BETTER THAN UNITY" without any science

Alvar

@Seth laptop

Seth

20:01

@Alvar "ARE" and "YOU" then please ;)

Alvar

@Seth !?!??!

Seth

1 min ago, by Alvar

@JorgeCastro i am but u dont agree with me so it's kind of pointless to argue..

5 mins ago, by Alvar

@Seth u dont need it, since u click and find it..

6 mins ago, by Alvar

@Seth u dont search u click it..

Alvar

@JorgeCastro I don't like the bar since it looks like an ugly version fo the mac bar. I don't like the dash since it displays thing I don't want like what apps are available, I jsut want shortcuts for my apps.

i need dinner / lunch.. not more beer...

Seth

Doesn't look like Mac to me.. So subjective.

Jorge Castro

if only there was a way to pink or lock things to the launcher

that would be ideal!

Alvar

20:03

@Seth exactly..

Seth

@JorgeCastro You can lock things to the launcher..

Alvar

well I would like to have my desktop back with things on it..

Jorge Castro

@Seth I was joking. :)

Seth

Oh.. OK ;)

Mitch

20:16

2

The bad/good depending which way to look at it, I worked with one.

Seth

Cool!

dschinn1001

20:32

hi all !

am too tired now - coming tommorrow about 20.55 - if you dont mind ! nice night !

Seth

Good night!

Mitch

Night all

Ask Ubuntu Meta

22:17

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Q: Inconsistent flag handling about questions in other languages

I think that the scope of a flag is to make moderators aware of content that request their intervention. And also I think that this site really only support English. Now, some of moderators can find helpful if I flag a non-English question and some of them send me to translate the content (I will...

Seth

I can SSH into my server from my laptop just fine..

But when I do it from my phone the server closes the connection after the first command

How would I troubleshoot this?

fossfreedom

good question ... well asked ... no idea!

Seth

:)

It's kind of weird alright.

Radu Rădeanu

22:38

hi all

Seth

Hello

Radu Rădeanu

@Seth I made the text bold in this question only to distinguish the question text towards the picture text

...but if u like wthout body, no problem, I quit at my case

Seth

yeah, the pictures are hard to distinguish from the text, but making it bold makes the text bad... No one here that I know likes bold text except for headers.

@RaduRădeanu There I fixed it. Or at least made it better.

Radu Rădeanu

ok, i didn'n know that no one here likes bold text

Seth

Yeah.. Especially have the update ( bold got worse after that.. )

Adding some horizontal lines seems to have fixed the issue though: meta.askubuntu.com/revisions/6839/8

Radu Rădeanu

22:51

ah, bravo, i didt't thought at horizontal lines

Seth

:)

Radu Rădeanu

23:08

@Seth play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.sshtunnel

...in case if you use an android phone

Zignd

Hey guys Google Drive for Linux just some signatures. change.org/en-GB/petitions/…

I'm not telling you to do so, but you can open an incognito window on Google Chrome or private window on Firefox so you will be able to sign it infinitely.

There is a post about this page on OMGUbuntu! omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/google-drive-for-linux-petition

Nathan Osman

@Marco: Considering that 2buntu now has a public API, would you accept a patch that adds onebox support for articles?

Note to everyone: the new theme I helped create for Ubuntu Discourse is live.

Radu Rădeanu

@Zignd I think if you sign one time is enough: you+your friends+their friends=~10000 :)

JohnMerlino

23:41

is it true that rasberry pi does not support ubuntu? But it does support debian

Raspbian

Raspbian is a Debian variant based on the ARM hard-float (armhf)-Debian 7 'Wheezy' architecture port but optimized for the ARMv6 instruction set of the Raspberry Pi hardware. Raspbian is a portmanteau of Raspberry Pi and Debian. Raspbian is free software. It provides over 35,000 available deb software packages, pre-compiled software bundled for easy installation on a Raspberry Pi computer, specifically tuned for optimal performance on the Raspberry Pi ARM11 hardware. The Raspbian Linux distribution basically contains the LXDE desktop environment, the Openbox window manager, the Midori web...

you think we could ask raspbian questions on askubuntu?

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