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Rinzwind

19:00

Hmm Alvar fell of his seat it seems :P

Alvar

@Rinzwind a bit easier now.. but I just had 2 hours of complex math so I'm a bit dead really....

Rinzwind

LOL

Alvar

@Rinzwind No I just rebooted :P

Rinzwind

Oh there's an easier way to explain this ;-) If you still want it :=D

Alvar

shoooooooot! :P

Rinzwind

19:01

press alt-f2

search for gconf-editor and start it up

Alvar

done

Rinzwind

see the 'apps'

Alvar

aah

Rinzwind

follow the bold part: gconftool-2 --type boolean --set /apps/gnome-session/options/auto_save_session true

apps -> gnome -> session ->options and there is auto_save_session

Alvar

cool thanks! :D

Rinzwind

19:04

neat ey? :D

Alvar

can I find the keyboard here? :P

Rinzwind

eh you mean the f10/11/12? >:D unlikely

Alvar

@Rinzwind Just releasied that I have used gconf-editor to fix queark music player for 11.04! :D

Rinzwind

ah

Alvar

@Rinzwind yeahh.. oooh...

the keycodes are gone..

Rinzwind

19:06

you can change powermanagement settings here too (I use those alot) and your wallpaper. applets settings etc

Alvar

cool...

I love this program! :P

Rinzwind

gdm is fun if you like to tincker :D

htorque

lightdm will be more fun :P

Rinzwind

@htorque wtf did you get a +2 and I did not :( grrr

htorque

oh, ha!

Rinzwind

19:08

lol

htorque

yeah, sometimes i don't know what voters think

Rinzwind

you paid someone didn't you?

Alvar

whoooot

lightdm?

htorque

eg. i ask a question and answer it: answer gets +1, question doesn't

Rinzwind

yeag

Alvar

19:09

@htorque LOL

@htorque question could be ok, and answer could be great! ;)

Rinzwind

@Alvar omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/…

htorque

@Alvar yeah, lightdm will replace gdm

or let's say that's the plan

Alvar

wooooooooow.....

so? what's the point?

Rinzwind

‘Web Sources Lens’ for Unity puts web search on your Ubuntu Desktop: omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/…

Alvar

of replacing it...

@Rinzwind why? I have a command for opening my browser/ it's always open anyway so WHY?????

Rinzwind

19:11

lol

Alvar

:d

Rinzwind

‘LightDM‘ will replace the standard ‘GDM’ login experience for Ubuntu 11.10, based on a decision taken today at the Ubuntu Developer Summit.: omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/…

Takkat

is back

Alvar

COOOOOOOOL :d

htorque

@Takkat hi

Rinzwind

19:12

yo Takkat!

LightDM is amazingly cool O+

Takkat

waves @htorque @Rinzwind

Rinzwind

sigh

lol

Alvar

@takkat can u help me with my keyboard issue? :)

Takkat

sounds great what hey say on freedesktop on LightDM :)

@Alvar: what's up with your kbd??

Alvar

2

Q: F10, F11 and F12 has no keycodes how do I find/add them?

Hi, pulseaudio crashed yesterday and ever since that my lower/raise system volume has stopped working. I've tried to reasign the keys and they work, and I have tried to reboot. What can I do to make it work? f10, F11 and F12 hasn't got any key codes. (I typed xev in a terminal.) How do I add t...

if they have no keycodes they don't work...

Takkat

19:16

Did you try to assign the XFCE codes?

Alvar

@Takkat what xfce codes? there aren't any when I run xev...

Rinzwind

@Alvar the way Unity works... did you do xev on a tty and then pressed f10?

or inside gnome?

Alvar

@Rinzwind in a gnome terminal...

Rinzwind

do control-alt-f1, log in and try xev again

(control-alt-f7 to come back to desktop ;) )

Alvar

ok?!

brb then...

Rinzwind

19:19

if this works .... blame Mark Shuttleworth :X

Alvar

@Rinzwind xev couldn't open display

Rinzwind

hmm pity :D

Alvar

...

Rinzwind

back to asking @Takkat about xfce codes :=D

Takkat

@Rinzwind I had a mental hickup: XF68

Alvar

19:23

@Takkat whooot....

Rinzwind

ah :D

Takkat

anybody else has mental hickups now and then?

am I going mad?

Alvar

sometimes..

too much work? ;)

Rinzwind

all the time. My life is 1 big hickup :P

Takkat

@Alvar +1 the more work the more hickups needs a reboot

Alvar

19:25

FocusOut event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x5200001,
mode NotifyGrab, detail NotifyAncestor

FocusIn event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x5200001,
mode NotifyUngrab, detail NotifyAncestor

KeymapNotify event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
keys: 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

that's whats shown in xev (f12)

Takkat

Hate that when this fly crawls up and down my monitor

htorque

@Takkat twice annoying when your monitor is the only light source in the room

Takkat

more than that - 2 of 5 light bulbs are dead

Oh - nice - just crawled over the Ocelot and flew off :D

htorque

ocelot win!

Takkat

for a fly it may look edible

Rinzwind

19:35

Probrom Nagel is .... 2000 HP :X twice of the Bugatti Veyron EB16.4

foodtime bbl :-D

Takkat

htorque

bah

Takkat

that's for my family - not for me

htorque

no ferrari for me

ah

ok, then it's okay :P

Takkat

I have no car atm

TheX

19:41

news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_thelookout/20110512/ts_yblog_thelookout/…

Takkat

lol - Chevys don't die

@Alvar I've given up on keyboard configuration when I tried to disable the sleep button once. Try to find out xev of the sleep button - makes you run crazy.

Even more so as the machine I had then couldn't sleep and did a shutdown instead

Alvar

hahaha :P

TheX

Chevys don't sleep

Takkat

worried on my daily rep score

my fault I think I haven't given a single answer today.

TheX

@Takkat I have not gotten any rep today

Takkat

19:51

@TheX that's more than me :P

TheX

but I surpassed god in rep...

err. I mean Mark Shuttleworth

Takkat

That's not quite the same

htorque

right, mark shuttleworth exist

(verifiably)

TheX

@htorque are saying God doesn't

?

Takkat

Some people don't need rep too much to have enough rep in the community

Imagine you could sell your rep like you could your Linden dollars in the beginning

htorque

19:54

@TheX i don't believe in god, but i can't and won't try to proof non-existence ;)

TheX

@Takkat Linden dollars?

@htorque I don't try to make you... I was just wondering where you stand, all is good with me... we will find out one way or another in the end right?

Takkat

You got a rent in second life in the beginning when you were one of the first

after a while that was real money.

I missed the point for two weeks or so when they stopped doing that

htorque

@TheX no - the end is the end - i will not find out anything after it :P

TheX

@Takkat I have only played second life a few times... never really got the point, and nobody was ever on when I was...

@htorque fair enough...

htorque

haha second life

Takkat

19:57

@TheX I got dread bored waliking up and down with my stupid avatar

Then I tried to build things

TheX

where do you walk to?

@Takkat are you an active member of second life now?

Takkat

I havent been there for years

htorque

don't create a stupid avatar then - i made a naked woman with large secondary... well, you know what

Takkat

I might still be registered

htorque

in seconds there was a crowd of weirdos around my avatar

TheX

19:58

@htorque lol

htorque

"hey you look nice" - that's when i pulled the plug from such games

Takkat

The more female you looked the more :D

then I started to "speak" - out came a male voice

htorque

lol

Takkat

It was a nightmare

TheX

@Takkat how did they respond to the male voice?

htorque

20:00

i have enough to do with my first life :D

Takkat

@TheX they said

ahh forget it

TheX

is that a qoute?

Takkat

no quote. It was only so embarassing that I never came back since then

I might be a Linden$ miliionaire by now - who knows

TheX

it sounds epic... like something I would do for the LOLZ

Takkat

I was there only for a week or so. I just did not find out why I should go there. There was no mission.

Places were crowded with zombie avatars that were afk. They looked like having been butchered

TheX

20:07

lol

Takkat

A while after that experience all major companies created places there. Even official government bureaus were opened.

That was scary

htorque

but soon the bubble bursted

Takkat

@htorque more bloated bladder than bubble

12

Q: What is the Ubuntu "built in virus protection"?

At ubuntu.com there is this "only in ubuntu" that says "Built in virus protection": What is the Ubuntu built it protection? What is the program in charge of this and how does it work?

11.04 security default-programs viruses

This is getting worse over time.

It's such a good question.

htorque

i got built-in virus protection too! i call it "brain".

Takkat

20:25

@htorque but you're not labeled "this can only htorque do"

last virus I caught made me sneeze for more than a week

htorque

actually, isn't that ad a lie? there's nothing in ubuntu that actively monitors anything. if i download a script containing rm -rf / nothing is preventing me from running it as root...

Takkat

@htorque there is not even a firewall per default, or is there in the meanwhile?

htorque

no, but it's not like it comes with tons of open ports

Takkat

We should not lie on people

htorque

marketing people... i could punch them all day long >:D

ændrük

20:35

I'm curious what suggestions people have about this.

0

Q: How should users share long log files?

For underdeveloped troubleshooting questions like this one I want to look at whole log files such as /var/log/syslog.1 or /var/log/kern.log.1, which can be several thousands of lines long. How should users share this kind of information on Ask Ubuntu?

discussion best-practice

Roland Taylor

21:07

In mein auf!!!!!

jawohl, mein auf! mein auf!

Takkat

@RolandTaylor /?\

Roland Taylor

ja?

Takkat

@RolandTaylor yes!

Roland Taylor

v'a'm :D!

Takkat

I agree. Väinämöinen.

Roland Taylor

21:12

jajajaja

non commentehn XD

Takkat

Have you ever had a mental hickup?

I had ^^^

Roland Taylor

The question should be: "Have you ever NOT had a mental hiccup?" - If addressed to me :D!

Takkat

lol. Hiccups are the base of brilliant ideas

The more the better.

Roland Taylor

That helps me understand myself :)

TheX

@RolandTaylor understanding oneself is overrated...

Roland Taylor

21:18

@TheX lol... how true

George Edison

dl.dropbox.com/u/6108272/unity/index.html

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

How do I run Angry Birds? http://bit.ly/j9TG0q #games

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on May 12, 2011 at 9:11 PM

Roland Taylor

@AskUbuntuTwitter you chase them :)

Takkat

@GeorgeEdison :D

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison I'm not 100% sure if that would be a good idea O.o

Takkat

21:22

James Gifford

@Takkat nice.

Takkat

not nice. them pigs grin

James Gifford

lol.

htorque

i can't finish the last one in world 1

George Edison

@Takkat Nice screen tearing.

Takkat

21:25

I'm only level 1-13. The little bird hit all but the big one in first shot. Then the big one started to grin.

htorque

what a pig!

Takkat

@GeorgeEdison That's from the schreenshot in action.

Ha!

Soo late here - time to get some sleep. Good night all.

George Edison

I love that game. I pinned it to the side :)

umpirsky

Hi folks, I have tried latest ubuntu 11.04, try CD, but it loaded Gnome instead Unity. Isn't Unity now the default?

TheX

21:43

@umpirsky make sure you have your drivers for your graphics card installed

umpirsky

Well, it's live CD

how can I install graphic drivers on that

And why desktop environment depends on drivers?

TheX

@umpirsky it can't be done

@umpirsky you have to restart your computer for the drivers to be installed competly

@umpirsky it doesnt, Gnome2 is the environment, unity is just the shell

George Edison

@umpirsky Did it give you a message saying that it was reverting to the Gnome desktop?

umpirsky

@George Nope

Well, Im a newbie, but there was no icons bar on the left side :) so it's gnome

Cas

what happens if there is an answer but it is not accepted?

4

A: Is there a way to disable the workspace switcher in unity launcher?

There is a workaround: Install Compiz Config Settings Manager from the Ubuntu Software Center Open Compiz Config Settings Manager from Dash Goto General Options and Desktop Size tab Change Horizontal Virtual Size to '1', the Vertical Virtual Size can be any number. Restart Unity by opening D...

James Gifford

21:56

Then it remains un-accepted, but upvoted by all. :L

Cas

lol ok

umpirsky

:D

Cas

i had a feeling he would complain the workaround doesnt 'look good'

James Gifford

eh. it's the answer to his question.

htorque

good night

Cas

22:00

@htorque cya

Matt

22:13

anyone know anything about compiler errors in Ubuntu?

Cas

post a dpaste of it and can have look

Matt

dpaste, what about pastebin?

Cas

yer whatever :)

Matt

kk

pastebin.com/S726fqjc

Btw, I'm trying to compile the qc-usb driver, for quickcam usb webcams. Ubuntu 11.04 64-bit

Cas

Did you see this: Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix it."

Matt

22:18

Yes...

Cas

that msg appears just after entering the kernel dir

Matt

I ran it, and it says it was not found

here, I"ll run it again and show you what it says

Cas

In this dir: /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic

Matt

yes

Cas

ok

Matt

22:20

Here it is, even ran as root:

pastebin.com/ccnYn9uc

Cas

you have got the kernel dev files?

Matt

Uhh............Which ones?

I will give you a dpkg -l | grep -i kernel

dpkg -l|grep -i kernel : pastebin.com/xw6q6R0n

Cas

weird its seems you do

Matt

:-\ I spent hours trying to help my friend, via Skype and Fb chat, compile this driver

[On Open SuSE 11.4]

Cas

i think you also need source: sudo apt-get install linux-source

George Edison

22:29

0

A: Help us come up with rules who should be rewarded with an iPad2 for making the site great

"... who goes through great lengths to make codegolf.se more awesome™." I have put a lot of effort and work into making a UserScript that makes it much easier to navigate the site. The UserScript does a number of things: Lists the size (in bytes) of each entry. Identifies the language used...

Oh boy... a chance to win an iPad!

Matt

@Cas, ok, am installing now

Cas

@GeorgeEdison yay, i can't contain my excitement

Matt

O_O 85 MB... heh. I have plenty of space

Cas

i think thats compressed size :p

Matt

hahahah well I got a 500GB drive

:)

btw, I just did this: $ git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git

Will that basically give me the same as /usr/src/linux-headers* ??

or is it different

Cas

22:35

not sure, bit out of my area of expertise but i think ubuntu have patches they apply

Matt

Well it finished installing

Now to see if it is fixed !

Same error!

Cas

do you have a linux src folder now

i actually dont think you run that in the headers folder

Matt

where?

Cas

well what other /usr/src/linux-* dirs do you have

TheX

►

Matt

22:41

@Cas
root: /usr/src # ls -1
linux-source-2.6.38/
linux-headers-2.6.38-8/
linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic/
bcmwl-5.100.82.38+bdcom/
/* THIS IS A LINK: */ linux-source-2.6.38.tar.bz2

Cas

@Matt linux-source-2.6.38

should contain files

thats where you run the command

Matt

I did not see the linux-source.2.6.38 before

Weird, maybe I just didn't see it

oh wait, it must have appeared after I installed linux-source

Cas

:D

Matt

So what do I do?

In the linux-source folder??

Cas

make oldconfig && make prepare

Matt

22:43

There is no makefile

TheX

Matt

@Cas
root: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.38 # ls -A
debian/ linux-source-2.6.38.tar.bz2 debian.master/

Cas

thought so

Matt

Do I need to tar xf *bz2 ?????

Cas

sudo tar -xvjf linux-source-2.6.38.tar.bz2

Matt

22:44

ah ok

Am extracting... btw, why do ppl use the "j" in tar? you don't need it

it works just with "x"

Cas

err for bz you need it

Matt

I usually do the "tar xf file.tb2" syntax. it's quicker

Cas

might auto detect

you have 'j' for bzip and 'z' gzip

Matt

I know, but I never to 'j' or 'z' and it works fine 100%

Cas

habit then :P

Matt

22:47

And OK! I ran make oldconfig

&& make prepare

and no errors!!!

Cas

w00t :D

Matt

so Now, do I need to run this in my driver dir? `make all LINUX_DIR=/usr/src/linux-source/path/to/extract/

Cas

no you should be fine with make all

Matt

Oh? ok. will try

=( nope!

same exact thing

I even get the same thing while choosing my new dir to be the Kernel source:
`make all LINUX_DIR=/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.38/linux-source-2.6.38/`

Cas

oh you shouldnt really have folder structure like that

Matt

22:53

well. ok, I will move it

k?

Cas

yer

are you sudo make all?

Matt

Um no, should I do it as root?

Cas

yes

Matt

I was told you don't need root to make packages

just to install them

oh ok

Cas

well yes

im struggling to think what else you can do tbh :/

Matt

22:57

pastebin.com/2axvnWfK

@Cas ^

Is it possible the problem is the driver? It is, after all, from 2006.....

And they say "if you have 2.2 kernel, to upgrade"

2.2 is ancient..

Cas

entirely possible

Matt

sigh..... Soo, could I just... download 2.4 kernel source, then,, make all LINUX_DIR=/usr/src/old-kernel-source-2.4/ ???

Cas

just checked the site and it does say 2.6 is fine

Matt

And assuming it works, would the .ko file work for my 2.6.38 kernel?

Cas

qce-ga.sourceforge.net/#download

Matt

23:02

I am already there. lol

Cas

did you check your symbolic link

for /lib/modules/uname -r/build

Matt

# file /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
/lib/modules/2.6.38-8-generic/build: symbolic link to `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-8-generic'

But why does that matter, because I am declaring the Kernel source dir, with LINUX_DIR=/usr/src/linux-source*/

right?? :-S

Cas

tru

sorry i don't think can help further and its late here

Matt

I'd talk to my epic-skills linux friend, but he's offline :|

aw..

ok, well thanks for your help

It's only 7PM here. =P

Cas

midnight here and been a long day :D

Matt

23:07

midnight? then you must be east?

or are you a whole 18 hours behind EST

Cas

Scotland

Matt

ah ok.. well.. I guess I will just wait for more answers on my StackOverflow question

=-s

I think I'll head off for now, cause I'm starting to get [short-term] sick[ness] of computers

;)

bye!

Cas

cya, gl with it :)

George Edison

Gotta stop playing Angry Birds...

3

James Gifford

hehe.

@GeorgeEdison I'm just plain evil for posting that link. :P

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