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00:14

Where are the Unity settings in Ubuntu 11.04? CCSM is not what I am looking for. http://bit.ly/eKhzHx #unity

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 26, 2011 at 12:09 AM

TheX

00:44

Trufa

hi has anyone installed xampp for linux?

TheX

@Trufa yes but it has been a year or so...

Trufa

I'm having some trouble with it

@TheX any ideas what this might be

TheX

ask away, although I don't think I can help you

Trufa

XAMPP: Another web server daemon is already running.

Google is not really throwing good results

TheX

00:55

That to me, sounds like you have more then one version of Apache installed/running

Trufa

I had previously installed php apache and mysql

that might be it

TheX

search in synaptic and see if you have multiple instances of apache installed... if not, restart your machine and try again

Trufa

@TheX hey! solved

turned of apache

and done

TheX

lol

gotta love easy fixes

Trufa

@TheX yes indeed!

Thanks for the help!

TheX

01:00

No problem

come back anytime

Trufa

@TheX :)

ajmitch

01:15

I never really understood why people installed XAMPP when packages are available in the distro

Jorge Castro

I think it's actually harder to install XAMPP than our LAMP stack

Trufa

@ajmitch I don't know, just trying it out

Was used to MAMP (and loved it)

TheX

@JorgeCastro @ajmitch I think the intial setup is easier...

Jorge Castro

@TheX the distro one is like one command

oh, and it asks you for a mysql password iirc

TheX

@JorgeCastro yeah... I suppose...

ajmitch

01:23

Installing the various pieces is pretty easy in Ubuntu & Debian, using tasksel

& it's nicely set up with split configuration for virtual hosts, etc

trampster

02:49

10000 seat ubuntu deployment news.techworld.com/operating-systems/3276132/…

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

03:13

sound over bluetooth to more headsets http://bit.ly/fnd9Ak #sound

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 26, 2011 at 3:09 AM

Trufa

04:18

Hi, any ideas on where phpmyadmin could be

I'm sure I have installed it now

and it is not on localhost/phpmyadmin

George Edison

@Trufa Something's wrong then.

If you installed it from the repos. it will be at http://localhost/phpmyadmin

Trufa

@GeorgeEdison is a computer restart necesary?

that I havent tried so far

George Edison

@Trufa Have you restarted Apache?

Trufa

@GeorgeEdison did this command:

sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart

George Edison

Hmmm... then something's not configured right.

Trufa

04:23

@GeorgeEdison hmm... what can I check?

apache is working

mysql seems to be working

just did:

<?php
// Connect
$link = mysql_connect('localhost', 'root', 'root')
OR die(mysql_error());

?>

and it seemed to work fine

George Edison

Try looking in '/etc/apache2/sites-enabled'

Trufa

when I do sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin

George Edison

There should be a file '000-default'.

Trufa

@GeorgeEdison i'm seeing it

ajmitch

@Trufa is this with the system's apache, or XAMPP?

George Edison

04:25

Inside there should be a line 'Alias /phpmyadmin /usr/share/phpmyadmin'.

Trufa

@ajmitch no, systems apache

George Edison

Do you see that line?

Trufa

hmmm.

this?

Alias /doc/ "/usr/share/doc/"
<Directory "/usr/share/doc/">
Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order deny,allow
Deny from all
Allow from 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 ::1/128
</Directory>

George Edison

That's all of the contents?

Trufa

@GeorgeEdison no!

<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerAdmin webmaster@localhost

DocumentRoot /var/www
<Directory />
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
</Directory>
<Directory /var/www/>
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
allow from all
</Directory>

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
<Directory "/usr/lib/cgi-bin">
AllowOverride None
Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
</Directory>

ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log

# Possible values include: debug, info, notice, warn, error, crit,

ajmitch

04:26

@GeorgeEdison from what I know, phpmyadmin or other packages do not touch the virtualhost files

George Edison

@ajmitch Hmmm... but it seems to have in my case.

I've got a line in there setting an alias for it.

ajmitch

@GeorgeEdison or you've put it there

at least on here, I have a symlink /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf

George Edison

@ajmitch I don't remember that.

ajmitch

@GeorgeEdison the postinst creates the symlink on lucid

George Edison

@ajmitch I'm on Maverick if that makes a difference.

ajmitch

04:29

touching virtual host definitions wouldn't be allowed

George Edison

@ajmitch Hmmm... maybe I did add it and just forgot :P

ajmitch

quite likely :)

/etc/apache2/conf.d is included by apache2.conf, just before virtual host configs, so it should be available

Trufa

@ajmitch I think I'll give xampp another try

this is turning out to be quite frustrating

ajmitch

you won't have any more luck there

unless xampp includes & sets up phpmyadmin for you

Trufa

@ajmitch ohh but whn I was trying I could see it

ajmitch

04:32

@Trufa have you reloaded apache2 since installing phpmyadmin?

Trufa

@ajmitch i did this:

sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart

ajmitch

& have you looked at the logs to see what the error message is?

Trufa

@ajmitch no, don't know where to look

or what to look for, sorry!

ajmitch

/var/log/apache2/error.log

George Edison

@Trufa Try JetHTTP :)

EvilPhoenix

04:34

yawns

greetings

George Edison

(Just kidding...)

Trufa

@GeorgeEdison :)

@ajmitch pasted it here

it was quite long

pastie.org/1833969

ajmitch

@Trufa there is a symlink /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf & a file /etc/phpmyadmin/apache2.conf ?

Trufa

not sure what is a symlink

sorry

but those files dont seem to exist

ajmitch

:0:> ls -la /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 2009-05-18 11:13 /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf -> ../../phpmyadmin/apache.conf

Trufa

04:43

ls: cannot access /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf: No such file or directory

ajmitch

that's interesting, since they should be created by the package if it's doing an apache install

so for some reason, it didn't pick up that you wanted it installed for apache

sudo dpkg-reconfigure phpmyadmin

Trufa

ok

Reinstall database for phpmyadmin?

Y/n?

ajmitch

probably no

Trufa

Now choosing apache2

ajmitch

Was it not selected?

Trufa

04:47

it gave me this chice

Please choose the web server that should be automatically configured to │
│ run phpMyAdmin. │
│ │
│ Web server to reconfigure automatically: │
│ │
│ [ ] apache2 │
│ [ ] lighttpd

chose apache 2

ajmitch

right, so neither was selected

Trufa

right

I chose apache2 is this correct?

ajmitch

yes

Trufa

ok, if it should be working by now

it isnt

at least in

localhost/phpmyadmin

ajmitch

Were those files mentioned before not created?

Trufa

04:55

@ajmitch nope

ajmitch

Unless you didn't actually select apache2 because of debconf's annoying UI, it should have created that link

Trufa

@ajmitch got it!!!!

from here

ajmitch

ok, what was different this time? :)

Trufa

cd /var/www
ln -s /usr/share/phpmyadmin phpmyadmin

ajmitch

ah, the ugly way around it

Trufa

04:59

@ajmitch is that bad?

ajmitch

ugly mostly because it relies on the DocumentRoot being the default (/var/www)

if it works for you, fine

Trufa

@ajmitch maybe tomorrow I'll give it another chance

ajmitch

OK

Trufa

this is only for local developmet obviously

id doesn't matter sooo much I guess

@ajmitch thank you VERY much for all your help

!!!

You've really been very kind!

@GeorgeEdison thanks to you too!

ajmitch

no problem

Trufa

05:06

@ajmitch see you later, thanks again!!

ajmitch

@Trufa bye

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

06:12

ssh connection permission denied http://bit.ly/fxDoim #ssh

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 26, 2011 at 6:09 AM

Achu

06:24

@all morning

0

Q: how to recover accidentally removed project in www instead of recovering the hole partition

I accidentally removed my project under www. i didn't use version controlling system i know that is the bad thing, How can i back my project instead of recovering the hole partition?

anybody here????

ohhh.... I hate my time

everybody is sleeping............

Alvar

07:25

Morning...

Octavian Damiean

07:45

hello

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

09:13

Evince print to pdf file in Natty? http://bit.ly/hMITxX #pdf

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 26, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Alvar

How do I upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 in one command by using the terminal? (that is never answered!)

0

Q: How do I upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 in one command by using the terminal?

Hi, I dont want to use the update manager I just want to type one command in a terminal do you understand? I am at 10.04 and want to upgrade to 10.10 (and on the 29 of april 11.04) in a terminal, can it be done?

10.10 10.04 upgrade terminal

WAKE UP!!!

0

Q: How do I upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 in one command by using the terminal?

Hi, I dont want to use the update manager I just want to type one command in a terminal do you understand? I am at 10.04 and want to upgrade to 10.10 (and on the 29 of april 11.04) in a terminal, can it be done? $ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [sudo] password for alvar: Reading package lists... Do...

10.10 10.04 upgrade terminal

This is a hard one! ;)

Alvar

09:49

:P

Octavian Damiean

@Dani3l in cases where it is a clear duplicate, flag it as such. ;)

@Alvar it really is not a hard one, you should dig deeper next time

Cas

10:02

3

Q: How do I do right-click the icons on the Unity launcher using keyboard keys ?

Is there way to do get right click action on unity dash board icon launcher using keyboard shortcut ?. After doing Alt+F1, I could select the application only.

11.04 unity shortcut-keys

just wondering if that should be left or closed as is mentioned in the Unity Keys question

41

Q: Unity keyboard/mouse shortcuts

In Compiz-based Unity, are there any pre-defined shortcuts, e.g. to open the dash or unhide the launcher?

unity 11.04 shortcuts

Alvar

10:14

@OctavianDamiean well, it was hard when I didn't know what to do ;)

will my graphite window theme work in 10.10 and 11.04?

Octavian Damiean

@Alvar I don't see a reason why not but you'll have to try it out

Alvar

@OctavianDamiean will all my usual settings be the same?

Octavian Damiean

@Alvar I have not idea what you usual settings are so I can't tell

Alvar

@OctavianDamiean like desktop picture, power management the lot really...

how long does it take to upgrade to 10.10 in a terminal (64-version) it takes forever! LOL

Octavian Damiean

@Alvar hmm can't tell for sure, I'm never upgrading from a version to the next one

Alvar

10:18

@OctavianDamiean that's stupid LOL

Octavian Damiean

@Alvar well there is a lot to do for an upgrade

@Alvar is it? Would you mind telling me why?

that doesn't really convince me

Alvar

lol

Octavian Damiean

calling someone or that what he does stupid without backing that statement up is a bit stupid ;)

Alvar

@OctavianDamiean I didn't think that argument through really... well whatever....

Cas

11:16

@Alvar I upgraded to Natty recently and it took 3-4hours I think

Octavian Damiean

@Cas what device?

I mean was that a netbook?

Cas

laptop

it didn't help having it need user input when updating grub and other configs

haha didn't know you could edit your messages! :D

Octavian Damiean

@Cas oh so it required user input and you left it alone?

Cas

well the time is sort of adjusted for that

i don't have the fastest internet connection so that might not help

Octavian Damiean

11:32

ah I see

Kaustubh P

@OctavianDamiean howdy?

checked this out?

omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/#what

Cas

12:10

i installed the askubuntu lens and is not showing up, is there a step i am missing?

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

used space in a new empty partition http://bit.ly/fy1JeV #partitioning

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 26, 2011 at 12:09 PM

Dani3l

@Cas did you install via ppa?

Cas

yeh

Maybe I need to log out, I assumed it would appear straight away though.

Dani3l

ye log out and in, and it appeared for me

Octavian Damiean

@KaustubhP sorry was away, that looks awesome!

Cas

12:17

@Dani3l ahh i did a 'unity --replace' and it appeared

Dani3l

@Cas oh, ok thats simpler way ^^

Octavian Damiean

two days!!!!

is so excited

Cas

@Dani3l mind you it might have been there all along as the icon is different to those in the screenshots and blends in now with other lenses :D

Octavian Damiean

@Cas nah you need to restart unity to get freshly installed lenses to appear

James Gifford

12:49

sees the words "restart unity", runs like heck

;)

TheX

13:22

Hello

James Gifford

Oh hey @TheX.

TheX

@JamesGifford hows it going?

James Gifford

@TheX Going pretty good. Excited about Natty?

TheX

eh...

James Gifford

haha

TheX

13:27

@JamesGifford 2buntu.com/index.php/archives/430

James Gifford

@TheX RE: Wifi randomly dropping. Switch to indicator-network

That fixed my issues.

however, your milage may vary

TheX

@JamesGifford I will give that a go if my problems are not solved...

James Gifford

@TheX :) it also looks better (IMHO)

TheX

Yeah the screenshots do look click

slick*

Cas

I'm a bit disappointed with the Unity multi-monitor bugs which add to the X bugs that were also present in Maverick :|

TheX

13:36

@Cas I haven

good grief... can't type today

I have not tried Natty with a multi monitor setup yet

James Gifford

I tried Natty with a projector... it was just a mirroring setup though.

Cas

@TheX it 'works' but its not very slick. My issues stem from the different monitor resolutions.

you will get a duplicate panel on the secondary monitor

James Gifford

@Cas I think that's how it's supposed to work.

Cas

@JamesGifford i can kinda see that but its doesnt look good plus all the indicators are there

the launcher also plays havok with dragging windows around

James Gifford

@Cas Yeah. I see what you mean.

TheX

13:42

looks odd

Jorge Castro

1

Q: Will everything (downloaded fonts, files, apps etc) remains the same when I upgrade from Maverick to Natty?

I'm planning to upgrade from Maverick to Natty, and to try out Unity. But I don't want to lose any settings, customizations and downloads in Maverick. I just wanna know, would upgrading alter anything that I said earlier? I don't want to start over with a clean, fresh Natty, and I hope I can keep...

11.04 unity

TheX

Thats it, I am done...

Jorge Castro

anyone remember the dupe to this?

we get this question alot

Cas

@JamesGifford for comparison this was my maverick desktop: i.imgur.com/I0NPC.png

James Gifford

@Cas Yeah.

I see what you mean.

Jorge Castro

13:58

hah

the GNU thread on meta makes me chuckle

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro It annoys me to be honest

Jorge Castro

this is why it's called "ubuntu" and not "ubuntu linux"

TheX

@MarcoCeppi hey long time no see...

Marco Ceppi

@TheX Oh, I'm always here, I just don't have much to say anymore :)

Jorge Castro

dvice.com/archives/2011/04/full-auto-gatli.php

man oh man!

TheX

14:02

@MarcoCeppi cat got your tongue?

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro Have you seen his other slingshots? This man is crazy

Octavian Damiean

@JorgeCastro lol!

how he insists ...

Marco Ceppi

Interesting, Ubuntu Live thing

TheX

14:18

Ubuntu is Alive?

Marco Ceppi

try-ubuntu-beta.ec42.net

TheX

Oh yeah that...

try it before you buy it I guess

Alaukik

14:53

this is awesome

omgubuntu.co.uk/natty

@MarcoCeppi why does it annoy you ?

Marco Ceppi

@Alaukik It's more of a nitpicking move than anything else

GNU/Linux naming controversy

The GNU/Linux naming controversy is a dispute among members of the free and open source software community over how to refer to the computer operating system commonly called Linux. GNU/Linux is a term promoted by the Free Software Foundation (FSF), its founder Richard Stallman, and its supporters, for operating systems that include GNU software and the Linux kernel. History Plans for the GNU operating system were made in 1983 by Richard Stallman, founder of the Free Software Foundation. In September of that year, Stallman published a manifesto in Dr. Dobb's Journal detailing his new pr...

There isn't a solid naming convention - so enforcing a rule either way is impractical

This is similar to the dispute that happened within local SE-sphere

Unix & Linux vs Ubuntu Stack Exchange sites

Jorge Castro

I don't really get the point

we call the kernel "linux"

and the OS is "ubuntu"

Marco Ceppi

In the end if the author of a post uses "GNU/Linux" to describe something, then that's fine. If they use the term "Linux" to describe the same thing that's fine to. It really isn't something we should enforce either way.

Alaukik

i am not saying to enforce anything .

i am just saying that we should be able to replace linux with GNU/Linux

Marco Ceppi

@Alaukik But why? I fail to see the argument for - since most of the time the term "Linux" is being used to describe the kernel - which isn't "GNU/Linux"

Like @JorgeCastro said, Ubuntu is the "GNU/Linux" OS - so it would be like saying "Everywhere there is Ubuntu, replace with Ubuntu GNU/Linux"

Alaukik

15:03

@MarcoCeppi i am not saying we replace those instances but instances like "linux app for doing xyz"

Marco Ceppi

@Alaukik that question is off-topic, it should say Ubuntu app for doing xyz or go to Unix & Linux if they're looking for a non-Ubuntu "Generic" solution

Alaukik

@MarcoCeppi but none of them are closed

Marco Ceppi

@Alaukik They need to be flagged then, and either fixed to represent a proper scope - or migrated to the appropriate site

Alaukik

11

Q: Paint.NET altenative on Linux

Does anyone know of a simple Image Editor, with functionality comparable to Paint.NET, for Linux? I've always found GIMP to be overkill and too complicated for what I want to do.

software-recommendation image alternative editor

so should this be closed or renamed to ubuntu or GNU/Linux ?

Marco Ceppi

Ubuntu

Alaukik

15:07

??

Marco Ceppi

The API caches things - so the new title isn't showing up in chat

Alaukik

@MarcoCeppi why don't you post this answer(rename to ubuntu if it is talking in the os context rather than the kernel context) on the meta question .

Marco Ceppi

I am, working on writing it now

TheX

@Alaukik it should just be "paint.net alternative" as ubuntu or linux can be assumed considering it on askubuntu.com

Marco Ceppi

@TheX Actually, having Ubuntu in the title isn't all too bad as I found out. When it makes sense it's okay - it helps SEO apparently

That title is now apparently more "SEO-able" since it'll match search queries better

TheX

15:10

@MarcoCeppi just saying it isn't necessary.. as it can be implied that the user is looking for alternatives to paint.net that work for Linux/Ubuntu.

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

Guake terminal showing up wrong in Unity http://bit.ly/fM0uuR #1104

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 26, 2011 at 3:09 PM

James Gifford

Alrghasfsdkfjlkdshlfkdsjf. This is STUPID. AIM has a password length LIMIT!!! Yet another reason to ditch them.

TheX

@JamesGifford how long of a password do you need?

James Gifford

@TheX My "industry standard" is 20.

is insanely paranoid about password length

James Gifford

15:25

(and no, my passwords aren't "12345678901234567890" ;) )

Marco Ceppi

Mine used to be leetified song lyrics

fail badp

1q2w3e4r5t6y7u8i9o0p'è

Marco Ceppi

n3v3rg0n4g!v3y0uup was one of them

fail badp

22 characters! Letters! Numbers! Symbols! Accents!

BEST PASSWORD EVER!!!!!!!!!

James Gifford

@failbadp said password won't work for hotmail or AIM. :P

fail badp

15:28

@JamesGifford A good reason not to use those!

James Gifford

@failbadp Indeed!

</end-password-rant>

TheX

my standard is 10, five if I am filling a bit lazy

which is more often then not

James Gifford

I mostly use openID-type thingies.

I would almost use Apple's MobileMe thingy if it was 1. Free and 2. No password limits.

Marco Ceppi

3. Not made by apple :)

James Gifford

Eh. I'd use it anyway. It's better than AOL/AIM that's for sure. :)

TheX

15:34

4. didn't track your where abouts 100% of the time

oh wait, that was the iPhone, not moble me...

James Gifford

That file never leaves your computers. It's accessed by ONE program. No third-party apps can view it. That, and they've known about it since iOS4 came out - at least, the forensics folks did. Also, Android actually sends it to Google (Disclosure: I write for Oaggle)

^^

TheX

Disclosure for apple was 4 releases to late...

IMHO

Marco Ceppi

I really don't care what my phone tracks of me. "Looks like you've made 32 phone calls, visit you office a lot, and are pretty awesome"

TheX

@MarcoCeppi you might care if you are a cereal killer.... or something

Alaukik

@THeX cereal killer?

James Gifford

15:40

People check into places on Foursquare, Gowalla and geotag their tweets. Nothing special about their phone just storing a DB of it. :P

Marco Ceppi

@TheX But alas, I am not. So I don't care. I also don't use a droid or iOS phone

TheX

@Alaukik yeah someone with a deep dislike for Cheerios, or Lucky Charms

James Gifford

starts digging in the WebOS VM for a geo-location file :P

Guess this is a "No".

TheX

No they just store it remotely...

James Gifford

just like Google :P

TheX

15:45

I still don't get where any company thinks they can track their customers, whether remotely, or locally, outside the use of a warrant, or in the case of an emergancy

James Gifford

I don't either. However, while the internet it getting global (SE is a perfect example), it's also getting more location-specific (Foursquare, Gowalla, Meetup etc)

So, you kinda need to to some geo-location stuff.

TheX

I realize that... but that is with the users permission and knowledge and they have have the ability to opt out, or not use such services

Jorge Castro

@MarcoCeppi @Alaukik replacing that in the title doesn't make sense either

it should be "What alternatives are there to paint.net"

having ubuntu in the title is just redundant

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro I brought up the same concern on How Things Work stackexchange - they say it provides good google-ability (though i still think this is just false information)

Ideally it should either be removed or kept where it makes sense

fail badp

Out of curiosity - in Unity, what does it mean when the Ubuntu logo menu button thingadongdong left top corner turns blue?

Jorge Castro

15:49

well the "ubuntu" is in the domain and the title

James Gifford

@MarcoCeppi It's not just false info. It's real. but since "ubuntu" is already all over the site, and extra mention or two won't matter much.

Jorge Castro

@failbadp it means an app on the launcher needs your attention

fail badp

@JorgeCastro Thanks

Has it been asked on the site yet?

Marco Ceppi

On the meta for How Things Work I brought up saying "How does ..." in front of every topic is stupid and redundant. Robert said no, it helps SEO - so I'm just saying what he said.

@JorgeCastro I updated my meta answer

Octavian Damiean

@failbadp the Ubuntu logo is called COF (Circle Of Friends) ;)

Marco Ceppi

15:52

I've updated a few of the changes to reflect the lack of Ubuntu in the title: askubuntu.com/posts/16888/revisions

Alaukik

@JorgeCastro searching for "paint.net alternative for ubuntu"(without quotes) in duckduckgo does not have askubuntu in the results whereas it should be in a box as it uses SE for zero clickinfo

Marco Ceppi

I think in the case of the Paint.NET application it's okay - Because just Paint.NET alternatives seems too short to be worth it's weight in gold

Jorge Castro

I just think that having "... on ubuntu" and "... on 10.10" makes the entire site hard to read

we know you mean ubuntu, the site is called askubuntu

Marco Ceppi

True, and for the most part it's redundant I just think there are a few corner cases

Octavian Damiean

wait what? the tags won't be evaluated when searching on Google for example?

didn't the perform fulltext indexing?

Marco Ceppi

15:55

@OctavianDamiean The title of the page, and reported meta descriptors, have a higher weight than the fulltext index. It will likely index the full page still, just whatever their search algorithm is will put a higher match constraint in title and meta

James Gifford

So... I need to go back and REDO all those tag wikis?! ;)

Octavian Damiean

actually thinking about what I just said I realized that I'm stupid ... we don't have ubuntu tags anyway

Jorge Castro

@MarcoCeppi for example people always put "natty" in the titles too, I edit those out since we have version numbers

Octavian Damiean

gosh it really makes sense!

we really don't have Ubuntu anywhere as we considered it redundant

hmm

Marco Ceppi

For instance, I think this question should keep the Ubuntu at the end

3

Q: List of free MMOs for Ubuntu

Is there a list of free MMORPG games for Linux (specifically ubuntu) somewhere? I know of Regnum Online. Any others?

games game-recommendation

Because it's a full phrase, and will likely get indexed better than "List of free MMOs"

Octavian Damiean

15:59

indeed

Jorge Castro

it makes sense when you're talking about the project, like this

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