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fossfreedom

20:01

tidied and reduped.

Seth

How about the merge? IMO that answer was helpful.

fossfreedom

offers nothing additional than the other answers in the dupe

Seth

OK then. Thanks :)

fossfreedom

can some one translate this one please? askubuntu.com/questions/271997/…

Seth

I think it's an internet problem.

No maybe not.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

20:04

@fossfreedom 661fx graphics card black screen on upgrade

George Edison

@fossfreedom I've thrown in an auto translation until someone else can do something better.

user19161

Heya @seth!

Seth

Howdy @JasperLoy

I saw your earlier problem...

user19161

So can anyone divine the mystery for me? I have searched all over the internet.

user19161

Why can't totem play my vcds?

user19161

20:06

Only smplayer can play them. Even vlc plays only half of them.

Seth

Do we even have Totem in Ubuntu anymore?

user19161

Guys, if we want linux to take over the world, we need one player to play everything...

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Seth

@JasperLoy that

user19161

@Seth Currently, 3 players are needed to play everything that WMP can!

Seth

Do you have libvcdinfo installed?

user19161

20:08

First, rhythmbox for audio cds, then smplayer for vcds, then totem for divx plugin, lol.

Seth

I don't know if that covers totem though.

user19161

@Seth Is that a player or just a library?

Seth

@JasperLoy VLC is soo complicated as well.

@JasperLoy Library. Prefix: lib

You can install it via Synaptic.

user19161

@Seth So you think that installing that lib will help totem play vcds?

Seth

I don't know..

But I know that's what the library is for.

Whether it covers totem or not I don't know.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

20:10

@JasperLoy the player is VLC. the reason it hasn't taken over the world yet is licensing.

user19161

@Seth I think I should give it a shot then.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

oh my vlc borked on midi files btw... ;)

user19161

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Haha, vlc plays only half my vcds!

Seth

VLC is soo overly complicated.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@JasperLoy then you're missing libraries/dependencies. i've never had it fail on a not ancient format

Seth

20:11

o_O

@AbrahamVanHelpsing VCD == Ancient.

user19161

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Or maybe I have too many different kinds of vcds, lol.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

not horribly so. it could also be region codes, which comes down to hardware not software

user19161

@Seth VCDs are common in my part of the world.

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing 1993. is. old.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

no 8bit sound is old

user19161

20:12

Hey, each time I come to this room, I get stars.

The Lord of Time

It's not hard to get a star here.

Seth

@JasperLoy They don't even sell tape players over here anymore :(

The Lord of Time

i have a ton of em.

user19161

It must be @seth doing the starring, lol.

user19161

@Seth Oh cassette tapes are dead here too.

Seth

20:13

@Seth runs out of stars quite frequently.

@JasperLoy Well good. I guess.

Dan Hulme

there's a star quota?

what is this, Mario 64?

Seth

20 a day.

Dan Hulme

that's quite a lot

Seth

@DanHulme Every time you star something you are contacting their servers...

user19161

Guys, let me tell you an interesting factoid. I don't do stars in chat.

Seth

20:14

:O

AbrahamVanHelpsing

there needs to be an animated gif extension that supports 8bit audio...

Dan Hulme

@JasperLoy so what's the interesting factoid?

user19161

Hey @abraham you changed your pic.

user19161

@DanHulme That I don't star anything, lol.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@JasperLoy yeah. it was a headshave bet kind of change. i said if someone changed their gravatar to will wheaton i would change to this...and.they.did.

user19161

20:16

I am thinking of changing back to my favourite Justin Bieber pic.

Dan Hulme

you should do a controlled study

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing And then they changed it again, so you are released.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

this is true. now what to change it to?

Seth

I try to keep mine realistic.

user19161

@Seth Yeah, you look like JB, lol.

Dan Hulme

20:17

see what effect your avatar has on people voting on your posts

Seth

:/

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I'm thinking:

user19161

Actually, I look like JB too.

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Oh yeah.

user19161

So I=JB=Seth, lol.

Seth

20:17

Guys. We support 13.04 on the Nexus 7.

@JasperLoy Oh. My. Word.

YOU ARE MY TWIN BROTHER! Wait.. I don't have a twin brother :S

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I knew it would pan out that wat. That's why I posted the comment as opposed to an answer. <-- typo intentional

user19161

I have no siblings.

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing The failbowl?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@Seth that

Seth

IKR

user19161

20:19

By the way guys, my mplayer divx plugin still cannot stream divx, only the totem one can, lol.

Seth

@JasperLoy Good grief.

user19161

@Seth I told you, we need at least THREE players.

Seth

LINUX HAS BECOME FRAGMENTED! WE ARE ALL GONNA DIE!

@JasperLoy :(

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Linux always was fragmented. It's not causing a problem. They strive to achieve different things.

user19161

So you see, all the development from release to release means nothing if we cannot even do a simple thing.

Seth

20:21

@GeorgeEdison I don't think we need two tags about the same thing: askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/99852 I.E. If we have batch-rename we don't need rename.

George Edison

Uhm... I'm not so sure.

Seth

Oops. Misread.

George Edison

Renaming doesn't imply batch-renaming.

user19161

I sense that jrg is missing...

Seth

@JasperLoy Exactly.

@JasperLoy He is. Summer is coming.

user19161

20:22

@Seth It's summer here all year round, lol.

Seth

@GeorgeEdison Right. We don't need both rename and batch rename on the same Q... At least IMO.

The Lord of Time

@jrg is missing because he fell into the vat of NULL underneath the chat room. Nothing survives NULL.

Seth

@JasperLoy Well.. Yeah I guess so.

user19161

Guys I have another issue. Brasero keeps failing to burn my ISOs.

Seth

And only @TheLordofTime knows how to travel NULL. Like the matrix.

George Edison

20:23

@Seth Oh, on the same question. I get it now.

user19161

Usually I need to burn anything twice to get it right.

Seth

@JasperLoy Welcome to the world of Brasero.

user19161

@Seth And CentOS Brasero can't even burn anything even after thrice, lol.

The Lord of Time

@Seth This is a true statement. Only I know how to travel through NULL to get to the world outside of NULL. holds up a tiny vial of NULL. Unfortunately, I also have NULL weapons. Which utilize NULL. :P

Seth

@JasperLoy shakes head

The Lord of Time

20:24

therefore NULL weapons are extremely dangerous and powerful. Because they can NULL anything.

Seth

Chat survives forever.

user19161

And CentOS does not have TeXworks in its repos, my favourite TeX editor.

Seth

in Ubuntu Regulators, Feb 4 at 22:47, by jrg

The grass withers and the flower fades, but the discussions on MSO endure forever.

True statement.

The Lord of Time

and NULL can also NULL NULL, which therefore creates more NULL.

user19161

And CentOS does not have splix in its repos which needs to be hunted manually, and I need splix to print.

Seth

20:25

@JasperLoy So why use it?

CentOS that is.

user19161

@Seth Yeah, just running through all my linux issues today for fun.

The Lord of Time

returns to stabbing the php5 package

Seth

good grief. How long have you been stabbing that?

user19161

Is Jennifer Wilson a guy or girl?

The Lord of Time

@Seth a LONG time.

user19161

20:27

Jennifer=girl and Wilson=guy, lol.

The Lord of Time

too bad I can't use NULL on the package, though...

Seth

@JasperLoy Don't make me go through my Windows ones... I am re-imaging an old vista computer for a friend right now.

@TheLordofTime rm -rf *php*

user19161

@Seth Hey you know what I think? Other than $, Windows is actually good!

Seth

'course that wouldn't work.. but you get the idea.

The Lord of Time

@Seth that doesn't purge php5 from every computer universally.

... wow... facedesks stupid php5

Seth

20:28

@JasperLoy 8 is. 7 is OK. Vista I don't mention. XP looked ugly. Anything older than that... well.. anyway.

@TheLordofTime Oh yeah.

user19161

@Seth And other than $, Office is actually good!

Seth

I will agree to that.

Without adue.

user19161

But now it's Debian and LibreOffice for me all the way.

The Lord of Time

pfft

Seth

LO4 FTW

The Lord of Time

20:31

LibreOffice is for noobs.

/me writes all his office documents in pure hexadecimal, byte by byte.

Seth

Yeah. right. Uh huh. Totally.

user19161

Hey can you think of one advantage LO has over O?

Seth

Anyway I'll TTYL

@JasperLoy Let me know if you find a fix to your problem :)

user19161

@Seth Yes, I have been searching for years. Bye.

Seth

@JasperLoy Open sourceness.

Jennifer Wilson

20:54

@JasperLoy 10x more activity

(btw, LO can borrow code from OO, but the inverse isn't possible)

LO has done a huge cleanup recently to be able to go forward faster

user19161

@JenniferWilson Hi Jennifer! I see you have been here for only 2 days, lol.

Jennifer Wilson

indeed =)

Did I do anything wrong?

user19161

@JenniferWilson Nothing! I was just surprised, and I love to lol, lol.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

submitted first pull request.

Lucio

What does the Install inside Windows option of the LiveCD?

The Lord of Time

21:09

@Lucio wubi

Lucio

I mean for this:

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Q: Ubuntu install problem

I want to install ubuntu alongside windows. So I downloaded the iso-file, made a bootable usb-drive and started the installation. But when I have to choose how I want to install it (alongside, replace or something else) it shows ('install ubuntu INSIDE windows 7, 'replace windows 7 with ubuntu' ...

installation

The Lord of Time

installs the OS as a file inside of Windows

not a true installation

Lucio

I don't know if that behavior is ok or not.

The Lord of Time

@LuisAlvarado are you around, or do I need to have you slapped?

(I'm intentionally trying to ping him :P)

Lucio

@TheLordofTime Do you know if WUBI is this is a normal behavior?

The Lord of Time

21:21

@Lucio when you've been around me here more often you'll learn that I tend to want to take a shotgun and shoot Windows to its death.

therefore I despise Wubi because it utilizes Windows to hold the Ubuntu stuff

Lucio

@TheLordofTime Welcome to the club

Lucio

21:35

@Seth I know that you are here :P

and you have watched this post:

1

Q: setting up vim with latex suite

I am trying to setup vim with latex suite. I have installed vim from the terminal prompt sudo apt-get install vim but sudo apt-get install latex-suite or latexsuite doesn't do anything. What do I do to install the latex-suite? After that, what else needs to be done to get vim going wit...

12.04 vim latex

@Seth Am I wrong?

Seth

I have been summoned.

@Lucio Never seen it before actually.

Lucio

o.O

really?

Seth

Really.

Lucio

@Seth Do you know what him mean with this?

I don't know if he want to know more info or what..

Dan Hulme

the Vim IRC channel has a bot programmed to put people off using vim-latexsuite, because it's buggy and slow

@Lucio I proposed an edit to your answer

Seth

21:42

I don't know anything about Latex.

Lucio

@DanHulme great!

Seth

Almost nothing about Vim..

Lucio

@Seth I was referring about the languages. No about something technicall

Dan Hulme

yay, another 2 rep

Seth

@Lucio Oh?

Lucio

21:44

I don't know the meaning of this phrase: by any chance

of any way?

Seth

Lemme read it again.

@Lucio Same thing as "Don't happen to know"

Lucio

still, I don't understand :D

Dan Hulme

It just makes the question a bit more indirect, and so politer

Seth

Let me see if I can explain it better...

" You can use by any chance when you are asking questions in order to find out whether something that you think might be true is actually true. "

Lucio

@DanHulme yep

Seth

21:48

It's just a polite way to ask if you happen to know that answer.

"By chance you might happen to be the person who can explain part B as well as part A" sorta.

Lucio

Oh,

Dan Hulme

Instead of, "Do you know x by any chance?" he could have said, "x? No worries if you don't know."

Seth

@DanHulme Yes. Exactly.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Anyone running Windows and want to test a VLC plug-in I modified to work across both platforms?

Lucio

So, him want to know if I did it, by my own experience

Seth

21:50

@Lucio Not exactly. He wants to know if you know how.

Almost the same thing, but not quite.

Dan Hulme

@Lucio Not necessarily. He's just guessing that you might know, and wants you to answer the question if you do.

Seth

@DanHulme Much better put.

Lucio

If I did enter the commands or what?

man, the English is so heavy..

Seth

@Lucio If you know how to configure it after installation... I'm not even sure that's necessary.

@Lucio Yes it is.

(really)

Dan Hulme

I have been doing this for some years :-)

Seth

21:52

@DanHulme English or Vim Latex?

@Lucio Yes exactly. He wants to know how to configure it.

Dan Hulme

English is like the Perl of natural languages. It was hacked together from the features of lots of different languages.

Lucio

@DanHulme Well, I appreciate your help

Dan Hulme

No hold on, I mean the Perl of natural languages

Seth

@DanHulme That's exactly IT!

Dan Hulme

The Perl of programming languages is... Perl.

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Seth

21:53

★

2

That's why English is so confusing. It's a blend of most other languages + evolved.

Dan Hulme

@Seth English. I gave up vim-latexsuite because it's slow and buggy, and has surprising behaviour

Seth

@Lucio BTW did you know about this:

Lucio

@Seth yep

Dan Hulme

those guys seem to do a lot of downvoting

Seth

It's an interesting place...

Lucio

21:54

@Seth Did you know about this:

Seth

@DanHulme See my above comment.

@Lucio Yes I did. Someday when I get beyond the extreme basics, I will use it ;-)

Lucio

haha, ok. Any thing, ask me ;)

Seth

I will :)

Dan Hulme

I have a certificate that says I could speak Spanish when I went to school.

Lucio

@DanHulme En serio?

Dan Hulme

21:57

Yes.

Lucio

cool

Dan Hulme

But as I haven't had an opportunity since then, I think it would take me a while to remember it.

Lucio

@DanHulme What level you'll classify? From 1 to 5

Dan Hulme

Now I'd probably say 1

if that's the low end

Lucio

Esta bien :)

Dan Hulme

21:59

I can't even remember the lyrics to 'El profesor me fastídia'

Lucio

@DanHulme "The teacher is annoying me"

Dan Hulme

Yeah, it's a song we did to learn about something in Spanish, but I can only remember the tune.

Lucio

lol

I don't know that song

Dan Hulme

Oh, it's not a Spanish song, it's just out of the Spanish textbook.

There was one for the days of the week as well, but the days of the week is the only part I remember.

Lucio

@DanHulme What day is today? :D

Dan Hulme

22:03

domingo

Lucio

\o/

Siiiii

Sunday is in English, isn't?

Dan Hulme

I see dustin is asking follow-up questions in comments :-(

@Lucio yes

Alas, I've only been to Spain once, and that was as a child, before I learned to speak Spanish.

Lucio

@DanHulme I know. I'll create a reply

Seth

got it.

Lucio

@Seth Thanks :)

Seth

22:07

np :)

Dan Hulme

@Seth That's not quite right. He's trying to open /Documents as if it's an absolute path, but he probably wants ~/Documents

Lucio

Anyway, I remember him to not create more questions..

Seth

@DanHulme True.. I'll edit.

@DanHulme done.

Okay. TTYL later guys.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

l8rz

Dan Hulme

bye

Luis Alvarado

22:32

@TheLordofTime you rang

The Lord of Time

yeah, twice.

is there a reason you're swinging the chains of closing a lot?

Luis Alvarado

depends on the question

today I closed several that were duplicates.

the only ones I can search right now are the ones about broadcom drivers or asking about removing ubuntu and coming back to windows. If you can find the one you want me to look at again that would be good.

The Lord of Time

i'd have to find my reopen votes...

Luis Alvarado

maybe you can tell me what the question was about

I can search it quicker

The Lord of Time

i forgot it was referenced in the chat

Luis Alvarado

22:47

The problem right now is the weapon you gave me

The Lord of Time

but i'm slightly buzzed right now, so... can't be arsed to scroll back

Luis Alvarado

too much power

The Lord of Time

which weapon? the NULL rifle?

or the banrifle?

Luis Alvarado

do not worry

yes

banrifle

it had a semi, auto and single mode

The Lord of Time

/me takes the banrifle and throws it into the vat of NULL that is in the center of the room

Luis Alvarado

22:48

now it has a kill m all mode

O.o

My precious!

btw

The Lord of Time

@LuisAlvarado bitcoins?

Luis Alvarado

if you find a mistake I made, feel free to send me a msg to [email protected]

or [email protected]

The Lord of Time

cba to do that either

is quite lazy while buzzed

Seth

It was this one:

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Q: Can you use a ubuntu 12.10 desktop install disk like an o.e.m. disk?

I recently installed a brand new hdd and i was wondering if i need to have windows installed before ubuntu or if it will install straight on for a clean install? My main problem is no install disk for windows... or one that wo

installation

FOSS took care of it and cleaned it up.

So no evidence. Just a wrong dupe though. Nothing big.

Luis Alvarado

but what was the problem then so I know next time.. not to....

Seth

22:51

@TheLordofTime If you aren't going to do anything don't complain :P

The Lord of Time

@LuisAlvarado closing something that shouldn't have been closed ;P

Seth

@LuisAlvarado You closed it as a dupe of setting up a dual boot.

The OP just wanted to know if he could install on a blank hard drive.

Luis Alvarado

must have been the one, ok let me explain what happened there

I have copied one question by selecting + CTRL+C

Seth

Like I said, only @TheLordofTime was/is worried.

Luis Alvarado

and another question by simply selecting it

I must have pasted the wrong one then

@Seth can you tell Lord of Time to give me back MY banrifle

it is...

MY PRECIOUS!

Seth

22:53

@LuisAlvarado Ah that makes sense.

@LuisAlvarado I have no power.. :(

But I can break vats of NULL.

The rifle might have been NULLified by now though :/

The Lord of Time

@Seth it was.

Seth

And if I let the NULL loose... well.. you know.

The Lord of Time

@Seth yeah, let's not let the NULL loose...

who knows what havoc it could cause.

Seth

Ah, nothing a moderator can't undo. They are the rulers of the universe and can take the form of NULL at their will.

And unNULL themselves.

Though whether you can unNULL things is open to discussion and scientific proof.

Anyway, enough RP for now.

Luis Alvarado

Wait wait, so let me get this straight: Did NULLifying the NULLgun NULLify the NULLifications of the gun, does creating a disaNULLing effect that NULLified the first effect that NULLED the gun in the first place?

The Lord of Time

23:00

lol

common instance of "How many times can you use [somephrase] in a sentence?"

user19161

@LuisAlvarado You look like Jose Carreras, LOL.

Seth

@LuisAlvarado I don't know.

That would be great for the philosophy room though.

Luis Alvarado

lol

ok guys gotta go

need to study for an interview

Seth

chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/139/lets-get-philosophical

@LuisAlvarado See ya later!

user19161

@Seth Philosophy is just common sense, but most people lack it.

Seth

23:03

Very true.

They think philosophy is something else as well.

Luis Alvarado

I wish they had some C/C++/Python injection. One shot and you know the answer to life, universe and everything....cough 42... cough

user19161

I thought each of my above two lines would get starred.

Journeyman Geek

you thought wrong. MWAHAHAHAHA

user19161

Anyway, I am glad UbuntuGNOME is an official variant.

Seth

@JasperLoy The philosophy of starring: What you think should get starred doesn't. What you don't want to get starred is. You look at the star list and wonder "How in the world did that get starred???". Oh the stars.

user19161

23:06

@JourneymanGeek Do you know that mwahahaha is listed at oxforddictionaries.com? LOL.

Seth

@JasperLoy Why?

Journeyman Geek

;p

Seth

@LuisAlvarado You seem to know already... Just sayin.

user19161

@Seth Because I like GNOME and I like Debian and I like Ubuntu but not Unity.

Journeyman Geek

and in other news, Richard Stallman has decided that ubuntu is spyware

Seth

23:07

@JasperLoy Ah yes.

@JourneymanGeek Who cares.

user19161

@Seth I also like Seth. =)

Seth

Spyware is in everything.

So it shouldn't matter too much what he thinks about Ubuntu.

user19161

I like Richard Stallman's beard, LOL.

Seth

I'm just saying... So?

user19161

Well, spyware or not, not important.

Seth

23:10

Who doesn't have "spyware"?

user19161

As long as nobody's money gets stolen.

user19161

Oh, I talked to Jennifer just now. =)

Seth

Hopefully. But what about your data?

@JasperLoy ??

user19161

Yeah, you're right.

user19161

@Seth Nothing, just that I remarked about her earlier on, and then she magically appeared in this room.

Seth

23:13

@JasperLoy Oh yeah. I saw that. You magically appear to you know ;)

user19161

@Seth Haha! Yeah. You can always email me if you wanna talk, LOL.

Seth

I know :)

user19161

Yeah, I share some secrets with others via email...

Seth

Errg. I gotta go again :/

user19161

OK, bye.

Seth

23:15

Just so you know I am not avoiding you. Even though it might seem like it :/

user19161

Nah, why would you avoid me? Hahahaha.

Seth

You always seem to come in when I need to leave... Just making sure :)

user19161

OK, I come in randomly.

Dan Hulme

@JourneymanGeek Do you have a link about that?

Journeyman Geek

23:53

@DanHulme: groklaw.net/article.php?story=20130324114340352

Dan Hulme

thanks

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