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mateo_salta

00:20

Modern World Overtime, Make Wiki's Obsolete, Many Words Ok?

MechWarrior?

@Alvar can you play it on Ubuntu? (maybe with wine/playon) I used to play MechWarrior 3 mercenaries

Alvar

@mateo_salta sorry no, it's windows only :P

Mech warrior online :P

mateo_salta

@Alvar some of my favorites were the Kodiak, and the Jenner

Alvar

@mateo_salta running with a catapult k2 now

mateo_salta

nice

George Edison

Oh Java, how I hate thee!

Seth

00:33

@maggotbrain That's why do don't ask open ended questions. No one understands and the only thing we can do is dupe it to what we deem most appropriate and ask the OP to clarify.

OK I'm really curious now. What's so bad about Java?

Why does everyone (here) hate Java?

George Edison

Well, I don't really hate Java - I just have no use for it :)

Seth

That makes more sense.

George Edison

Probably the biggest strike against it is that Android forces you to write your apps in Java.

I'd much rather write my apps in C++, thank you very much.

Seth

Uh, they can't easily support more than one language can they?

And I'm sure there are many people who'd rather use Java over C++... Just sayin.

George Edison

Well, you can write native code (in C/C++) and run it on an Android. You just can't write the application in either of those.

You could write a Java app that simply calls into a C++ executable - which is sort of what I'm trying to do now.

Seth

00:38

Yes.

mateo_salta

@GeorgeEdison what's the progress on the git app thing

George Edison

I had it all ready to go and then found a really nasty bug.

So I'm working on that bug now.

mateo_salta

oh, the one you were talking about eariler

George Edison

That's the one :)

Plus I ran into some problems setting up my merchant account for selling the app.

Therefore I am currently working on solving two problems right now.

mateo_salta

well, once setting up the account is done, that will be out of the way for other apps

@GeorgeEdison let me know, I want to give you a dollar ;) (or the going rate)

George Edison

00:44

I've switched from libgit2 to just running the Git executable itself on the device.

mateo_salta

wow, sounds complex

George Edison

I've almost got it working. I've got the executable cross-compiled and bundled in the application. I've even managed to get the Git executable to print a simple error message :P

mateo_salta

did that fix the ~~key-signing stuff~~ yeah that

George Edison

You mean SSH support?

Yes, the app can now support SSH connections no problem.

(At least in theory.)

RolandiXor

G.

Seth

00:55

Hi @RolandiXor. Haven't seen you in a while.

RolandiXor

Hi :) | (: iH

Seth

Man.. All these new 2k and 3k users. Review is just dead. But that's a good thing :)

RolandiXor

:P

Ubuntu needs indicator autohiding. I am tired of saying this.

Seth

Wow.

Yeah.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

01:31

o/

Seth

\o

You should report this to Canonical. Not here. Aside from that, it does indeed look like a trademark violation, but that's for Canonical to decide. — Seth 1 min ago

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@Seth that's pretty flagrant

Seth

What is? The violation or my comment?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

The violation

Seth

What about this redfish.co.nz/index.html ? That page links to it.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

01:39

Wow, but debian said something about not caring about logos i think...

Seth

Well good for them IMO.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Either way, you can't really copyright a swirl imo. You could find invocations of the swirl back to 8bit games as a wand emission i suppose. It's still a little hokey. The Ubu logo is a bit more distinctive.

Seth

Yes that's true.

Seth

02:21

wait wut? HALP.

Seth

02:42

Silence

Silence is the lack of audible sound or presence of sounds of very low intensity. By analogy, the word silence can also refer to any absence of communication, including in media other than speech. Silence is also used as total communication, in reference to non verbal communication and spiritual connection. Silence also refers to no sounds uttered by anybody in a room or area. Silence is an important factor in many cultural spectacles, as in rituals. In discourse analysis, speakers use brief absences of speech to mark the boundaries of prosodic units. Silence in speech can be hesitation...

FEichinger

shrug

Seth

How did I know you didn't care...

FEichinger

Probably because I've spent the past hours doing nothing but arguing in The Bridge? :P

Seth

Exactly.

Seth

03:15

error is back! :(

Zignd

03:54

haha when I saw "Silence" written with capital letters I remembered that phrase from Doctor Who: "Silence will fall..."

Seth

@Zignd lol.

Someone actually brought that up once..

AbrahamVanHelpsing

maybe a dupe: askubuntu.com/questions/271781/…

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Reference documentation for cgroups (control groups) settings

I'm looking for some reference documentation to explain what each of the settings are for each control group. For example, there's cpuset.cpus, I think setting this to 0 means use all CPUs, setting it to 1 limits you to 1 core. And cpuset.shares, how is that configured exactly? Surely there's a...

Seth

@AbrahamVanHelpsing BAH. 10.04 will be EoL in April anyway...

Zignd

I never saw someone quoting about "Silence" but it's expected as we're at Ask Ubuntu General Room

Seth

04:00

Well, for Desktop anyway.

@Zignd Yeah.. We are a bit weird...

Zignd

@Seth cya I need to leave, it's 1:00 AM here in Brazil and I need to sleep.

Seth

@Zignd Oh wow. Well talk to you later!

Amith KK

04:59

appears

Motherboard failure on braveheart :(

I'm now on my pi

anyone alive?

@GeorgeEdison ?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Opening lid results in black screen (Dell Laptop with ATI Graphics, Ubuntu 12.04, 3.2 kernel, GNOME 3)

For the past few weeks, when opening the lid my laptop often fails to recover from suspension leaving me with a blank screen. Further, when this bug occurs, the laptop fans continue to run while the lid is closed, causing my laptop to quickly overheat in my bag. I have read various different que...

linux ubuntu power-management

Amith KK

wow cool... I'm 4k

BBL

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

05:43

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Q: I can't install Mono because something's wrong with the kernel (I think)

$ sudo apt-get install mono-runtime Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these: The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-image-generic-pae : Depends: linux-image-3.2.0-38...

ubuntu mono

Anwar

05:54

congrats! @AmithKK

@Mochan nice!

Takkat

09:25

SPAM wont die today :(

Mochan

09:52

@Anwar Haaa... yeah no. Reckon it's still GNOME2. There is no usr/share/gnome-screensaver folder. Sigh.

Rinzwind

10:30

morning all

am I being harsh here?

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A: Restore laptop to manufacturer's pre-installed version of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS

Unfortunately my laptop's wifi isn't supported by the normal Ubuntu releases. The only version that will work is the pre-installed version. This is a contradiction. If it worked before on a previous installed Ubuntu it will always work (bugs excluded ;-) ). The manufacturer probably pre-inst...

Takkat

@Rinzwind oooh - so many words?

With manufacturers customizing Ubuntu instead of providing all of us their needed drivers this may be the beginning of the end...

...good that there is not much of an interest from manufacturers to do so.

Rinzwind

more words included

I think I know what happend

HP blacklisted a module ... and he did not

some questions ANNOY me takkat :P

Takkat

:)

Rinzwind

see this one: askubuntu.com/questions/271776/…

dude knows how to convert an image ...

so he figured out he needed to install imagemagick

and then fails to understand how to resize an image?

Takkat

yeah, seen that. Made me lol resize from nothing to nothing wont work

Rinzwind

10:40

so 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999% of what he is on about he can solve himself!?

Takkat

0.0000000000000000000000000000000000001% left for us to do.

Rinzwind

all I did was "man convert" :*

weird :\

Takkat

man solves many questions here.

3

I believe people dont read.

Rinzwind

copypaste ftw!

and refering to copy/pasted source >:)

Takkat

depends. I saw a recent post where the source was 7 years old.

It might still work, but who wants to test this...

Rinzwind

10:44

me me me! I love butchering os'es :+)

whenever I do I always try the beta too >:DDDDD

Takkat

Downgrade to Warty solves ~~all~~ none of your issues.

Rinzwind

yeah I had that discussion before

like ...

ok this client has this this this this this this and this problem

so ... if we kill their website we only got 1 problem :+0

hey there is someone lurking @takkat :=) someone starred you and it was not me >:)

Takkat

I felt it!

Rinzwind

I bet it is a woman :=)

called ....Jenny?

Jennifer Wilson

It's not =]

Rinzwind

10:47

no that is not her name

Takkat

lol

Rinzwind

ah it's Jennifer >:)

Jennifer Wilson

(I didn't star anything yet)

3

Rinzwind

lol

than it has to be the Barbados office >:)

Takkat

see? it can be done easily.

2

Jennifer Wilson

10:48

I think I got it =]

Rinzwind

:D

Takkat

Only that I cant see the messages on the right side because my display is too small

Rinzwind

@takkat another one ... askubuntu.com/questions/271840/… there is so much wrong here ... and to top it off.. LILO!??! does that still exist? D:

HA! I have empty room on the right ... 22¨ WS

Takkat

some distros use it I believe...

10" netbook NC10

Rinzwind

far to small for me
I will get a tablet when they are 17"

(or netbook)

though I LOVE the transformer

Takkat

10:53

Zoomed out - now I cant read it any more.

Jennifer Wilson

What's so wrong about askubuntu.com/questions/271840/… ? It's clear question that will help him and could help others, right?

Rinzwind

jennifer... it starts with "cd is broken".

so instead of fixing the cd player he wants to go through hoops

Dan Hulme

I'm not sure I could hold a 17" tablet

Rinzwind

@jennifer I am all for fixing things... :=)

Jennifer Wilson

I thought the CD-ROM issue was an hardware one

Rinzwind

10:57

ofcourse it is jennifer :)

Dan Hulme

and the other star was me!

Rinzwind

is one of the easiest fixable options ... get a new drive. cost around 10, 20 euro

@jennifer ... check the answer he got @takkat.... you too

soooooooooooo he claims his bios can not boot from bios and the answer ofcouse states...

Takkat

I cant imagine I want to know anything about Plop

Jennifer Wilson

yeah, sounds an outdated tool

sounde like*

sounds*.

Takkat

no BIOS no boot...

UEFI for the kill

Rinzwind

11:01

outdated bios ;)

Takkat

very outdated BIOS indeed

even my oldest box can do that.

@JenniferWilson arrow up to edit your last line :)

Jennifer Wilson

really, thanks :)

Journeyman Geek

hello people

Takkat

Hi o/

Jennifer Wilson

By the way, I'm new to Ask Ubuntu and am trying to post sensible answers. What do you think about askubuntu.com/questions/224803/python-speechd/271517#271517 ?

Takkat

11:03

@JenniferWilson there is a timeout however...

Journeyman Geek

@JenniferWilson: protip. If no one can tell what your question is, there's a problem

Rinzwind

LOL

Journeyman Geek

that's the biggest problem with the first one you listed - it could very easily be rephrased to "How do I install plop"

Rinzwind

@jennifer good enoug for an upvote

Journeyman Geek

your answers seem alright tho

Takkat

11:04

yeah looks good to me

Rinzwind

well reg. plop: my answer would be :fix the cd rom

Takkat

immediate replacement or your computer will die

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Takkat: neither my main desktop, nor my main laptop have optical drives ;p

Rinzwind

who needs an opticaldrive?

title says:kernel panic askubuntu.com/questions/271849/…

so where is the kernel panic in the image?

oh and that PLOP thing looks nice!! old :D but nice

Journeyman Geek

plop is pretty neat

Takkat

11:13

@JourneymanGeek my next box will have ssd a hard drive and lots of usb ports only.

Journeyman Geek

@Rinzwind: I need one cause my mom keeps asking me to burn disks

I just use the one at the shared desktop

Rinzwind

lol

@takkat my notebook has a 120Gb ssd and 1 Tb WD 7200 >:)

oh man ssd rock :D 11 sec boot time

Journeyman Geek

lol

8.2 seconds according to windows ;p

my linux boot is pretty snappy too despite being on a crappy 5400 rpm, 40gb drive that probably fell off the back of a truck

Rinzwind

yeah but windows does not boot with apache and mysql ;-)

w/o those 2 I can shave of 4 secs

Takkat

Doesn't Windows "boot" from hibernate?

Rinzwind

11:17

probably. they like to cheat like that >:DDD

what other OS's can have a TRAIN run in a terminal window!! Ubuntu rocks

jennifer still here? >:D

Takkat

Those days when boot times were significant I hibernated occasionally. But there always were issues. Now it takes longer to wake up than to reboot.

Rinzwind

open a termial and type
sudo apt-get install LS
and after it finishes type
LS
(so in capitals)

Jennifer Wilson

@Rinzwind sure, why?

Rinzwind

just do it >:D

(the command above your post jennifer)

Linux - the kernel with a train O

Jennifer Wilson

@Rinzwind I prefer using sl

3

Takkat

11:20

train spotting

Rinzwind

LS is a easteregg ;-) someone got fed up mistyping ls for LS

same goes for
sudo apt-get install moo

Jennifer Wilson

$ sudo apt-get install LS
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package LS

Rinzwind

hmmm

try
apt-get moo

wait LS does not work in Ubuntu!? :D

ah! it is sl? do a
sl -laF

:D

windows never had cool eastereggs >:)

but I did like Sheep.exe That had one of my co-workers in a frenzy

hmm bbl need cola and the bottles are all empty

Rinzwind

11:47

back :=) 4 more bottles acquired

Takkat

25 min to get 4 bottles is fast.

BBL

Jennifer Wilson

leaving, see you

Mahesh

13:35

@jokerdino No. you cant. :P

jokerdino

hm, nice guys. I see.

Takkat

Nobody is nice and around.

Mahesh

duh

Takkat

All that are around are nice by definition.

Journeyman Geek

lol

but its nice to not have some people around XDXDXDXDXD

/me sadly, is having a pain in the rear with wordpress themes

Takkat

13:48

here's kids having a fight about some nothing.

Journeyman Geek

14:07

changing my theme does not work

until it suddenly does

Journeyman Geek

14:20

quack

was a plugin.

Seth

16:01

sl is a little too fast. You should be able to slow it down... maybe sl -s.

Lucio

@Seth Great! And you didn't break the system :P

Thanks dude

Seth

lol

This time all I had to do was add 'meta'

Didn't have to change any JSONP..

Still waiting on jrg to merge it...

Or Marco.

Lucio

Yeah, and you added a break line too :D

The Lord of Time

yawns

hello

Seth

@Lucio Yeh.. :/

@AmithKK You haven't answered anything since renaming trash... Kinda made it hard to help you :P

What's with all the unicode weirdness? Most people can't even see them! — Seth 15 secs ago

AbrahamVanHelpsing

16:12

@jrg - at one point you were talking about a need for podcatcher that syncs played list across platforms. what do you think about ubu-1 to save that data?

The Lord of Time

16:48

-1

A: Installing ubuntu on laptop

Not an answer to you question As you have mentioned above Just got lenovo laptop with free dos installed on it, I followed instructions on ubuntu site and downloaded ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso file. You have 64 pr...

^ that needs burning as an answer

because they even say "THIS IS NOT AN ANSWER"

Zignd

16:59

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Q: How can I control an Ubuntu computer from another Ubuntu computer through the internet?

I'd like to know how to control another Ubuntu OS from my personal computer with Ubuntu, like remote access through the internet. There is any native software to perform this task? Or a built-in software in Ubuntu? If it's more than one, could you please list it? Thanks.

remote-access

jokerdino

ssh?

landscape?

Zignd

Landscape from Canonical?

jokerdino

yeah.

The Lord of Time

@jokerdino burrrrrrn this:

-2

A: Installing ubuntu on laptop

Not an answer to you question As you have mentioned above Just got lenovo laptop with free dos installed on it, I followed instructions on ubuntu site and downloaded ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-i386.iso file. You have 64 pr...

it must BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN

WITH FIRE

Zignd

@jokerdino Landscape is payed service, and I also don't know what it do exactly. It's more related with servers isn't?

The Lord of Time

17:04

it's more for general management and not remote control

freebie solutions include using TeamViewer

but that gets unstable if you let it run forever.

it is third-party though

Zignd

so ssh and landscape will not be useful

The Lord of Time

not really.

Gui

@Zigndi I updated my answer.

Zignd

@Gui thanks

The Lord of Time

someone can translate this?

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Q: Ubuntu auf Handy ok. Zurück auf Android geht nicht! Samsung Galaxy Nexus Maguro

habe Ubuntu auf mein Handy laden können, funktioniert auch. Ist aber nicht gut im Moment. Wollte wieder auf Android, geht aber nicht. Datei für Android heruntergeladen und entpackt. nach Eingabe von "/flash-all.sh" kommen folgende Fehlermeldungen:"error: cannot load 'bootloader-maguro-primelc03.i...

ubuntu-touch

Jennifer Wilson

17:16

Well, I can with help from Google Translate. =] He wants to go back to Android from Ubuntu Mobile

Zignd

You should try the God Google Translate.

The Lord of Time

then correct me if i'm wrong, but that's not a question for here then.

jokerdino

hm, that's two revival badge today.

The Lord of Time

/me drops a vial of NULL accidentally, causing a gap to be formed in the floor.

... whoops

jokerdino

@TheLordofTime i think it is similar-ish to getting rid of ubuntu and going back to Windows question.

The Lord of Time

17:18

/me points out the "floor" is the / directory on his system

FEichinger

@TheLordofTime Takkat and I could. Just ping if stuff like that shows up.

Zignd

@TheLordofTime I think it, as the Faq says we need to answer all kind of questions related to Ubuntu services

The Lord of Time

mmm

well that's why i haven't done anything to that question :P

(1) i couldn't understand it

(2) i wasn't certain it was offtopic, because of (1) :P

2

Zignd

it need to be closed as it's not written in english

The Lord of Time

or translated.

by a native speaker :P

Zignd

17:21

Yeah

The Lord of Time

@FEichinger can you translate such question as the above?

so we have one less question closed just because it's not written in english :P

Zignd

Close it and when it get translated you open it again

jokerdino

the delete button is tempting.

FEichinger

On it. But it's technically OT anyways.

jokerdino

hey look, he edited to correct his name.

The Lord of Time

17:22

the flag button is also tempting...

FEichinger

It's about installing Android over Ubuntu on a smartphone.

The Lord of Time

reaching to the minigun of flagging, only to slap himself

Zignd

@FEichinger It's valid question

jokerdino

ß -- reminds me of oktoberfest.

Zignd

@jokerdino you need to close it and when it get translated you open it again (It's just a suggestion).

jokerdino

17:25

that would work but the word "closed" has a more permanent meaning to it.

and i am expecting someone working on it

Zignd

humm ok

FEichinger

Edit submitted.

jokerdino

boom. robot mod closed it.

and reopened it! whee~

FEichinger

And reclosed it.

jokerdino

o.O

FEichinger

17:28

rofl

jokerdino

it was a valid-ish question. IMO at least

Zignd

This question is not related with Ubuntu

FEichinger

I beg to differ. It's all about Android stuff, except for "Hey, I tried Ubuntu!

And, probably running ubuntu right now to reinstall Android.

jokerdino

actually, i just read the question. you may be right.

FEichinger

Which, again, has nothing to do with the problem at hand: Missing file, probably wrong archive downloaded.

Needs way more information and the problem itself is Android-related or user error. Neither of which we can support.

Zignd

17:29

It should be asked at Android Enthusiasts as he is asking about reinstalling Android

jokerdino

yahoo mail shutting down anytime soon?

FEichinger

@jokerdino Not that I knew.

jokerdino

my dad was talking about something similar. guess he just read a spam.

Seth

@jokerdino Hope so.

It should be killed along with AOL.

jokerdino

AOL isn't dead yet?

Seth

17:35

Nope.

I still send emails to AOL address' quite regularly..

jokerdino

:(

i actually am not liking Google too much these days. Especially, after they killed Reader.

spam flags to emails to text messages. would that be crazy?

mateo_salta

@jokerdino maybe about the yahoo classic e-mail

jokerdino

i see. they are updating the interface?

mateo_salta

17:59

I think they allerady did, I'm still using the "old classic" one, and they have been removing parts bit by bit, first It no longer deletes spam automatically, now they are removing messenger (not that I used it anyway) so it wouldn't supprise me if they got rid of the "classic" e-mail altogether.

that is the latest message about the messenger thing

jokerdino

i see.

my dad was a bit worried and said he didn't understand the message or something. he asked me to help him with his email :P

mateo_salta

yeah, all I want is plain e-mail, I even have the pictures turned off and text only mode on.

jokerdino

yeah, at best, i share a link in email.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: How to setup whatever.localhost.dev to resolve into 127.0.0.1 on Ubuntu 12.04?

I'm running Ubunut 12.04 I want *localhost.dev to point to 127.0.0.1. Ubuntu 12.04 comes with dnsmasq-base installed with network-manager. But there is no /etc/dnsmasq.conf. So I installed the dnsmasq package The /etc/dnsmasq.conf file appeared I added: address=/localhost.dev/127.0.0.1 sudo r...

ubuntu dns dnsmasq

Seth

18:51

@jokerdino Not crazy at all...

AbrahamVanHelpsing

19:36

yeesh...i just got asked to push a commit to github...

o/ @GeorgeEdison

George Edison

o/

Seth

Mod around?

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Q: Can you use a ubuntu 12.10 desktop install disk like an o.e.m. disk?

I recently installed a brand new hdd and i was wondering if i need to have windows installed before ubuntu or if it will install straight on for a clean install? My main problem is no install disk for windows... or one that wo

installation

This was wrongly closed IMO.

Can we get re-open votes anyway?

@GeorgeEdison Howdy.

FEichinger

@Seth Definitely incorrectly marked as a dupe of dual-boot.

Should be this.

Seth

Yes that exactly.

The Lord of Time

@LuisAlvarado You have failed, -1 modrep for you

Seth

19:42

@TheLordofTime And hasn't everyone?

The Lord of Time

@Seth Modfail is worse than a normal fail.

Seth

Not really.

The Lord of Time

yarly if they're the only one to have voted to close somethiing

Seth

Everything (except for deletion) can be easily undone. It just leaves a bad impression.

The Lord of Time

which is why the fail is worse

Seth

19:44

Sorta.

in Ubuntu Regulators, 26 mins ago, by evilsoup

This question should be migrated to SuperUser, I think:http://askubuntu.com/q/271975/112879

Sup with that?

I like Luis' comment.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

Anyone have a tut on start to finish submitting a patch on github? I've only ever solo-ed, so merge-commit wasn't necessary...

Seth

A patch or merge request?

Are they even different?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

I'm going through the github docs at this point. Anyone with a better resource can say so...

I think it's fork, commit, pull-request

Seth

Well I whipped this up: meta.askubuntu.com/a/6230/44179 But I'm not really sure if that's what you're doing..

Plus I'm just using Github..

It's a bit more complicated using git itself.

Hey @fossfreedom

fossfreedom

@Seth o/

Seth

19:53

Can you handle this: askubuntu.com/questions/271965/…

AbrahamVanHelpsing

If I'm doing it, I'm so doing it with git itself.

Seth

I know all we ever do is give you work... So have a cookie.

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Right.

Little more complicated. Do you have it installed and set up?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

yersh. I'm just stepping through the github FAQ. I 'll just read the docs

Seth

This may help: gun.io/blog/how-to-github-fork-branch-and-pull-request

Another one: flanders.co.nz/2009/03/21/gitgithub-survival-guide

fossfreedom

@Seth what's the issue - that its duped against the wrong Q?

Seth

19:57

Yes.

fossfreedom

possible of 3 - which one are you thinking?

Seth

Preferably merge it with the Q mentioned in @FEichinger 's comment.

fossfreedom

@Seth let me look at bit more at it.

Seth

OK

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