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Jorge Castro

13:14

good morning!

fossfreedom

morning Jorge :)

Rinzwind

13:25

good morning Mister Castro :)

David Oneill

Hi all - I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction with a problem I just had: I run Xubuntu 12.04. I just installed all the updates, and after the required restart, my computer no longer recognizes my AMD graphics card, and thus won't use the correct resolution of my monitor.

Eliah Kagan

@DavidOneill What happens if you hold down the Shift key while starting up your computer, then select an old kernel version in the GRUB menu?

David Oneill

/me tries that.

huh - the GRUB menu knows enough to use the full resolution...

ok, the older kernel version did work

wait :( it worked for a bit, then the monitor said "adjusting" and it's wrong again

Eliah Kagan

@DavidOneill The problem is likely with the newer kernel, then. I recommend reporting the bug against the new kernel. The best way to do this is probably to boot with the kernel that is not working properly, and run ubuntu-bug linux. Make sure to describe the problem thoroughly in the bug report. Before reporting any bugs in Ubuntu, I recommend reading this thoroughly.

@DavidOneill Oh. Darn.

Is that what happened before?

David Oneill

it's not quite the same

Eliah Kagan

13:34

@DavidOneill How is it different?

Also, are there any options for alternative drivers in Additional Drivers?

David Oneill

here's a more detailed history: 1st try with the newly updated kernel, the logon screen was the smaller screen resolution

when i first rebooted into the older kernel version, the logon screen was the full (old) resolution

i logged in, and after about 5 seconds, the screen "adjusted"

now, I can only see the same % of the screen as I could with the old set up, although I think X thinks I still have the full resolution, because I currently (old kernel) can't see the task bar at the bottom of the screen

when I try to run the AMD setting software, I get the message "No AMD graphics driver is installed or the AMD driver is not functioning properly"

/me checks for additional drivers

Rinzwind

boot probably uses a pre-defined image. So it might look correct but it is not driver dependent.

David Oneill

there's only 1 listed (the ATI/AMD driver), but it's listed as inactive. I'll try activating it.

Rinzwind

(I know I had to change a file in a release or beta to have a correctly visible boot screen)

@DavidOneill and then the problem was fixed >:D

David Oneill

that did it! Thanks :)

Rinzwind

13:49

see! my esper capabilities worked flawlessly :=)

Jorge Castro

data.stackexchange.com/ubuntu/query/59227/…

those questions could use votes and reviews ^

Rinzwind

15 votes done :-)

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

15:27

0

Q: how to use different package manager in ubuntu?

I want to use different package management in ubuntu. Instead of APT i would like to use pacman or RPM in ubuntu. Is it possible to customize ubuntu for this purpose? I want to customize ubuntu fully and want to change DE, WM and even package manangement How to do this?

Seth

16:21

@fossfreedom Are you around ATM?

fossfreedom

yep

Seth

I just wanted to let you know, you can ignore my last NAA flag.

After a second look it's probably OK to leave it.

fossfreedom

ok. cheers

Seth

Thanks :)

jokerdino

16:36

hm, to hell with this. i installed ubuntu on an external and I am back :)

fossfreedom

o_o ... what happened? what were you trying to do?

jokerdino

my internal died.

HDD

fossfreedom

welcome back!

jokerdino

:D

fossfreedom

big usb external?

jokerdino

16:44

it's a 1 TB drive.

fossfreedom

I note prices of HDD have dramatically dropped lately - should be easy and cheap to pick one up.

jokerdino

how 'lately'?

fossfreedom

bought a 320Gb 2.5inch for £35 on amazon.

3 weeks ago

jokerdino

that sure is lately.

i checked prices 4 months ago and it wasn't dropping.

maybe time to scourge through.

Dan Hulme

I was thinking of getting a NAS

but it would have to be one I can install extra packages on

jokerdino

16:46

there isn't any immediate impact on my external, is there?

Dan Hulme

@jokerdino any immediate impact of what?

jokerdino

installing ubuntu and running from it.

fossfreedom

@jokerdino no impact - just will be a bit on the slow side over USB2

jokerdino

ah, that is great news

i guess i can bring ubuntu everywhere now.

fossfreedom

@jokerdino when I boot from USB stick - I use lubuntu - unity is not nice on USB

jokerdino

16:55

ah, good idea.

i am about to upgrade to raring. will install DE after that.

fossfreedom

its that time ... bbl

jokerdino

Bye.

The Lord of Time

-4

Q: Why is creating Hurd taking so long when Linux was ready in 1992?

I don't get it. Why Hurd cannot be done after more than 20 years from making Linux part of GNU/Linux . Could anybody tell me why Linus could do it basicaly by himself in a year or so.\ and they cannot do that in almost 30 years? For moderators: Btw. Why there is no hurd tag in tags options t...

kernel gnu

VTC: OT that;

Seth

Already done.

jokerdino

oh you.

Seth

17:01

Maybe joker will finish it?

Why do we need a hurd tag? Tags are only made when someone has a good question that should be tagged with it. — Seth 1 min ago

jokerdino

q favorited. will be deleted on the next iteration.

The Lord of Time

MODERATORDOM 101: DO NOT CLOSEVOTE unless it's damned obviously closeworthy. Because your close vote is godly.

:P

jokerdino

i can use super vote when there are couple other votes :P

The Lord of Time

MODERATORDOM 102: If thirty people are saying the same thing, and they're not mods, you have a riot on your hands if you don't agree with them.

Seth

I see that you are as openminded as a the muslim guys on Islam beta. I hope that Debian folks wth their Debian GNU Hurd are more polite than you guys. — Derfder 46 secs ago

Now he's being rude.

The Lord of Time

17:04

MODERATORDOM 103: Most users will not be happy with any decision you make.

like, with a tempban?

@jokerdino can you silence them?

Seth

@jokerdino Already has 3...

HURRY UP!!

jokerdino

do what?!?

Seth

Delete his second rude comment ;)

jokerdino

done like seconds ago.

i can lock it. maybe

Seth

Thanks ;)

The Lord of Time

17:05

system.nuke(users.Derfder, reasons.AntiCivil);

oops, those're enums, they don't need () ;P

Seth

O_O

jokerdino

deleted?

Seth

Yup.

maggotbrain

I think a Hurd SO site would be a GREAT idea.

:-/

jokerdino

absolutely.

Seth

17:08

Another rude comment. Better leave that one though.

The Lord of Time

link please?

jokerdino

stop fueling the troll!!

The Lord of Time

i don't want to comment

/me wants to flag! :P

jokerdino

one more flag and it autodeletes itself. lol

The Lord of Time

pulls out the minigun of flagging

jokerdino

17:09

He killed the fun. Boo.

Seth

Whoa. The whole page is gone.

@jokerdino the page or the comment?

jokerdino

nice way to earn the silly badge.

Seth

lol.

I earned that on meta... but not here. Hope I never do!

jokerdino

@Seth comment. but the page got nuked.

Seth

@jokerdino Well the OP didn't nuke it.

jokerdino

17:12

nope.

Seth

@Gui Running Ubuntu?

is scared to ask

in Feed Testing and Expirimentation Room, 2 mins ago, by Stack Exchange

Great answer: Bash: delete from cursor till end of line with a keyboard shortcut http://askubuntu.com/a/269048?atw=1 #commandline

Tweeted by AskUbuntu on March 21, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Heh. Interesting.

jokerdino

interesting. i thought twitter rss was dead.

Seth

@jokerdino I fixed it. I even pinged you about it :P

jokerdino

did you? sorry, might have missed it.

goes great lengths to bring back the interrupter

Seth

Feb 25 at 20:16, by Seth

@jrg @jokerdino I fixed the Ubuntu twitter feeds :D

No worries ;)

jokerdino

17:25

clearly, i misssed it.

Seth

@jokerdino Marco didn't want them.

jokerdino

Nooo

Jorge Castro

@jrg are you still involved with kandan?

jokerdino

17:46

@JorgeCastro do you know how i can get bug control rights over a ubuntu package i co-maintain?

re: unity-tweak-tool

Jorge Castro

yeah

jokerdino

can you switch it on for me please?

Jorge Castro

I need to put you in bugcontrol

one sec, what's your lp id?

jokerdino

~barneedhar

Jorge Castro

all set!

jokerdino

17:47

thanks a lot!

Gui

@Seth at the moment no, I am at work, but I do have it installed at home.

George Edison

18:20

Ta-da:

github.com/nathan-osman/AndroX

Gui

@GeorgeEdison I don't know what it is but congrats!

Seth

@GeorgeEdison Wowee. Congrats!

George Edison

Thanks, guys!

FEichinger

19:02

Heya folks

George Edison

19:35

Just got an email from somebody that wants to bundle their toolbar with my installers.

I don't think so...

Seth

19:47

@GeorgeEdison One word: DON'T.

George Edison

I won't.

Seth

If I find software that tries to add other things to my computer it really lowers my estimation in that software and its creator.

George Edison

20:00

Yeah, I totally agree with you.

Lucio

20:16

@vasa1 I already suggested that we should have a canonical question about it. As this is the only post in the site, it shouldn't be closed/removed. Instead of create a new post, you can improved it editing.

Ask Ubuntu Meta

0

Q: Where did my Reputation go?

I had over 200 reputation and now (next to my username) it says I have only around 170!? Is this a bug, cause it has happened before to me. I have received no warnings about anything going weird, so what is up? I like my reputation :(

bug reputation

Lucio

Do we have a step by step guide/post about how to create a LiveUSB from Mac?

0

Q: Installing Ubuntu to an Imac via USB

I'm attempting to install Ubuntu to a imac (21.5-inch, Mid 2011) via USB. I've seen this guide. Plus countless other forum post to no avail but haven't been able to recognize it on startup, let alone actually get the thing to boot. Can someone provide me a good, up to date set of instructions...

live-usb mac

Seth

@Lucio We did...

Lucio

I read this external community guide. I mean here

@Seth link?

Seth

Looking...

Lucio

20:31

I just said, so you don't forget ;)

Seth

14

Q: Create USB installer from the command line?

I'm trying to create a bootable USB image to install Ubuntu on a new computer. I have done this before following the "create USB drive" instructions for Ubuntu desktop, but I don't have an Ubuntu desktop available. How can I do the same using only the command line? Things I've tried: Create ...

installation server command-line boot live-usb

that might be the best it gets...

George Edison

I now have Git/libiconv/cURL/OpenSSL compiled for Android.

Seth

1

A: Ubuntu "USB for OS X" instructions don't create bootable USB drive

Spent half the day on this but finally have a solution: The application unetbootin will quite happily open up the iso file, extract everything and create a bootable USB stick.

that too. VTR it while you are at it.

Lucio

@Seth I didn't see it before.

@Seth Yeah, the answer in this post are quiet not AU stile :)

Thank you, I created a comment there

Seth

Well hopefully it will help some.

Lucio

20:40

yup

@Seth BTW, any good news in your programming world?

Seth

No not really. I haven't had much time to work on anything recently :(

Lucio

@jrg Hey! I have one C# question for you :P

jrg

@JorgeCastro yes, i am.

Seth

lol.

jrg

@Lucio uh, no.

just no.

Lucio

20:43

haha, it's not about code

Seth

@jrg that's what I say about Ruby :P

Lucio

is more about how

Seth

Go on.

Eliah Kagan

@Seth Regarding that VTR: Are you sure UNetbootin (even the OS X version) creates USB flash drives that are bootable on a Mac?

Seth

@EliahKagan Pretty sure.

jrg

20:44

@Lucio there is no how in C#, just why.

Seth

No way I can ever tell... but it should. Anyway, we don't want that question floating around unanswered.

Eliah Kagan

@Seth UNetbootin's official site says otherwise. Under Requirements: "Microsoft Windows 2000/XP/Vista/7, or Linux, or Mac OS X 10.5+. Note that resulting USB drives are bootable only on PCs (not on Macs)."

Seth

@jrg You are directly contradicting Jon Skeet's reputation.

@EliahKagan em. Good find.

Eliah Kagan

@Seth That's why the Ubuntu site provides so technically demanding instructions instead.

jrg

@Seth Ahem, no.

Seth

20:47

@EliahKagan Conclusion: Don't buy a mac.

Eliah Kagan

@Seth Alternatively the Ubuntu project could start providing an .img file (or .dmg file) also. Considering that we provide a special mac version of the amd64 ISO, providing a .img or .dmg would probably be reasonable.

packpatfan

hello

Seth

Hello @packpatfan

packpatfan

hey @Seth

Seth

@jrg Can you tell us why @packpatfan 's reputation suddenly fell? He can't figure it out from his reputation history.

Eliah Kagan

20:53

@jrg This relates to Where did my reputation go?

Lucio

@jrg Do I need to buy a Windows OS to program in C#?

Seth

@Lucio No.

packpatfan

@Luci0 --> Nope, at least I don't think so, seeing as C/C++ programming works fine

Seth

But it's much Easier, both when learning and coding.

Eliah Kagan

@Lucio No. Depending on what you need to do, you might need Windows (but then, that's true for any programming language--if you need features that are provided only in Windows, you need Windows). You can use Mono on Ubuntu. (Or GNU Portable .NET.) You can use the Monodevelop IDE.

packpatfan

20:57

ah

Lucio

Any C# code (basic, intermediate and advanced) will work running in Ubuntu?

Seth

@Lucio Ehh.. Not that easy.

Lucio

Including creating a program with GUI (window)?

Seth

@packpatfan C# is a Microsoft product (for the most part)

@Lucio That's the big issue.. I've never tried myself so idk how well Mono.NET works.

Eliah Kagan

@Lucio Not all language features are supported. Most are. When the next version of C# comes out (and I mean this perpetually, not just the next version), it will take time for CLR's like Mono to implement it, and more time to implement it in a way that works sufficiently the same as Microsoft's CLR.

guntbert

20:59

1

Q: Extra characters showing up when I type

I am using 12.04 LTS and ext+r9a char9act+er9s ar9e showing uap when I t+yape. Also a lar9ge black r9ect+angle wit+h a cir9cle and bar9 symbol keeaps showing uap. I am concer9ned t+his may be associat+ed wit+h an at+t+emapt+ t+o hack me (unusual act+ivit+y on a websit+e. Any ideas?

12.04 keyboard

Trolling attempt?

packpatfan

kinda looks like that

Seth

@guntbert Why do you think that?

Lucio

@EliahKagan I know that, but I will be able to run the programs with a set of windows without problems in Ubuntu?

packpatfan

All of those plus's and 9s...kinda looks like that

Eliah Kagan

@Lucio Mono supports Windows Forms. (You should be aware that there's no ECMA standard or covenant not to sue associated with Windows Forms though, so Windows Forms implementations might one day be imperiled in civil court, somewhere.)

Seth

21:00

@packpatfan That's just part of his problem.

Lucio

@EliahKagan That is what I was looking

guntbert

@Seth, in IRC we often see trolling attempts which try to bind ressources - with fake problems

Seth

@guntbert I'm not saying it isn't a trolling attempt, but if it is only time will show.

packpatfan

@Seth --> I suppose, but it looks a little too constantly plus's and nines

Eliah Kagan

@Lucio If you write your program to work with Mono (or GNU Portable .NET), it should work with that implementation. But no, going from one implementation to another, you will likely encounter some incompatibilities. If you want your program to run well on Windows with the Windows CLR, you do need to test it with that (or have someone do so). Similarly, if you want it to run well with Mono, you need to test it with that.

You should keep in mind that Mono does exist for Windows--if necessary, you can make your program specifically dependent on Mono even in Windows.

Dan Hulme

21:02

@packpatfan and occasional a's

guntbert

@Seth, of course :-) (and then there is my 7th sense for trolls :-))

packpatfan

@guntbert And he has certain sections where it is fine, so i'd agree with @Seth...just wait

Seth

@guntbert ;)

packpatfan

@DanHulme -->Nice

guntbert

@packpatfan, of course we wait! But it may make sense to have an eye on it, that's why I mentioned it here

packpatfan

21:03

@guntbert --> Did you notice that the post was edited? Maybe someone spammed the post??? Dunno, I'm not a mod :D

Eliah Kagan

@guntbert I don't think we should assume that's trolling. It's possible, of course. But such bugs can happen. I remember a bug that caused X11 to terminate when specific keys were pressed on the keyboard. While this is a bug (assuming it is happening), it might make sense to try to help them work around it rather than immediately closing the question, since they can't really write and submit a good bug report this way (though I suppose they can manually remove the extra characters).

packpatfan

Yeah, and what about the edit??

Lucio

I think that the comments of @packpatfan are trolls. Why you add '-->' to all of them?

:P

Seth

@EliahKagan That is, unless their backspace key inserts apostrophes.

packpatfan

@Lucio lol... :P

Seth

21:05

@packpatfan See askubuntu.com/posts/270972/revisions

packpatfan

I add those

Lucio

jk

Eliah Kagan

@packpatfan What about it? Also, which edit are you talking about? There have been two.

guntbert

@EliahKagan I did in no way imply it should be closed, only maybe have an eye on it

Eliah Kagan

@Seth There's always the delete key.

@guntbert Yes, I understand. Though arguably it could be closed, as an off-topic bug.

Seth

21:05

@EliahKagan Which hopefully doesn't do something drastic :P

packpatfan

yes, I just think that he should have edited the post too...?

Lucio

@EliahKagan Thanks for all your information. Now I have it very clear

Unfortunately, I will have to program using Windows. :( I must approve Laboratory 3

guntbert

@packpatfan, btw you could try to assume good faith before jumping on someone (I am talking about the picture stitching) -

Dan Hulme

Even so, I'd lay 5 to 4 he spilt coffee on his keyboard

packpatfan

21:30

@guntbert --> Yeah, sorry about that and the Windows thing-jibber too.

Seth

22:13

Looks dupish:

1

Q: Black screen on boot after upgrade to 12.10 from 12.04?

New to Ubuntu but loving it already. I am not a Ubuntu genius, but I am quite computer competent and just need a little help to get past this issue! Earlier today, I downloaded the Ubuntu 12.10 (both 32 and 64 bit) and tried to install them from a USB boot. Unfortunately, each time I did so I wo...

12.04 12.10 screen black-screen

maggotbrain

22:56

Hey @Seth thanks for the comment in that U & L question. I appreciate it.

Lucio

23:27

0

Q: How can I install Windows XP alongside Ubuntu on an External HDD?

This may seem like a duplicate of a question asked 100 times over, but I feel that this is unique in some respects. Also, it may be possible that this is a windows question and not ubuntu so feel free to delete it. However, everything modification I do is from within Ubuntu, so that is the reason...

12.10 dual-boot windows-xp

My god! How want to read 4063 characters to help to install Windows XP???

The Lord of Time

23:41

hi!

mateo_salta

hi!

The Lord of Time

bitcoins are fun. just saying.

mateo_salta

what are bitcoins?

The Lord of Time

BEFORE i get into ubuntu mode :P

how do you not know about bitcoins

Bitcoin

Bitcoin (sign: BTC) is a decentralized digital currency based on an open-source, peer-to-peer internet protocol. It was introduced by a pseudonymous developer named Satoshi Nakamoto in 2009. Internationally, bitcoins can be exchanged by personal computer directly through a wallet file or a website without an intermediate financial institution. In trade, one bitcoin is subdivided into 100 million smaller units called satoshis, defined by eight decimal places. Bitcoin does not operate like typical currencies: it has no central bank and it solely relies on an internet-based peer-to-pe...

mateo_salta

I live a sheltered life. ;p

The Lord of Time

23:45

drags @mateo_salta out from /dev/shelteredlife and puts them into /dev/therealworld

mateo_salta

so, do you do server work for them?

The Lord of Time

lol no.

Lucio

When you'll note that an answers is really useful/great? When it give you wish to close you're answer created before it in the same post :D

@EliahKagan I mean really, you're answer is just to c/p in Wikipedia!

Eliah Kagan

@Lucio Huh?

Lucio

1

Q: What does this command mean ls -l test.conf -rw-r--r-- l root root?

root@ubuntu:/etc/openvpn# ls -l test.conf -rw-r--r-- l root root 791 Mar 20 09:23 test.conf What does the above command mean?

command openvpn

Eliah Kagan

23:59

"to [copy and paste] in Wikipedia" ??

mateo_salta

@TheLordofTime so you give someone money for 'not money'? (oh, I think I get it now, it dosn't go through the banks?

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