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George Edison

00:39

@Seth Yes.

Seth

@GeorgeEdison Is it using the remote sources?

George Edison

Seems to be working for me.

Seth

Good. Does it have a comment about OP adding more information in an answer?

George Edison

01:02

It doesn't appear to.

Seth

Weird.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

01:18

hola muchachos

Seth

Hola Señor

Oh, fun fun fun.

errg.

I feel like a total fool right now.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

how so

Seth

You don't want to know :|

But I'll tell you.

I tried to add a comment to an answer by the OP that was just answering a comment..

Correct comment wasn't in the script, so I created a pull request.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

and your pull request broke stuff?

Seth

Didn't read it correctly and (somehow) ended up thinking I saw the comment twice in the script.

Closed pull request

Only to find out, upon reading it again, that there only was one instance of that comment

(I don't know if any of this is making sense...)

AbrahamVanHelpsing

01:27

free stuff is free stuff. they'll get over it or languish in a hole

Seth

It goes on.. but I'm not going to finish it right now ;)

jrg

01:47

@GeorgeEdison correct.

it does not.

Seth

Almost got this mess cleaned up.

Learn new stuff everyday.

Get stuck here though: When I run git pull ProFormaComments it wants me to specify a branch, but I haven't figured out how.

jrg

askubuntu.com/questions/264075/… | well, sure hope so.

Seth

Well that was easy.

git pull ProFormaComments master

maggotbrain

@Seth d'oh! I gave you those tuts to look at. ;-P

At least no animals or small children were hurt in the process, right?

right?

Seth

@maggotbrain yes yes.

@maggotbrain Haven't had time ;P

jrg

02:02

found in some suspected android malware.

Seth

though I guess it would have paid out in the long run @maggotbrain

@jrg I don't understand.

jrg

no, i'm on my desktop

maggotbrain

@Seth joking, really, Seth. branching and merging can be weird to wrap your head around at times. I gave myself a sandbox with my dotfiles to play with before I touched anyone elses stuff.

Seth

@maggotbrain Meh yeah.

jrg

@Seth plus.google.com/113311452977363451419/posts/K5dBLqWcCB8

Seth

02:04

I don't know what I just did...

@jrg Wow.

maggotbrain

hehe

Seth

@maggotbrain Gonna delete my fork and re fork... again.

jrg

@Seth basically, i downloaded, took a peak at the "pop" mp4

and that's the album artwork.

Seth

I see.

FEichinger

Woot!

The thing that bugged me for the past three weeks finally works.

Needs some tweaking to catch some errors at some point, but for now it ... works.

Seth

02:12

Now I forgot the [A]...

sigh

George Edison

Boy, I really blew that one.

Seth

@GeorgeEdison You might need to close your first pull request.

It's still open from what I see.

jrg

02:40

wow. spokeo.com

@AbrahamVanHelpsing: Do pentesters use that?

because my profile is freakilly spot-on.

FEichinger

02:52

Another point in favour of not living in the US.

Seth

03:25

@jrg Eeeeks man.

@FEichinger Trust me, I know...

maggotbrain

03:45

Welp, I just volunteered to help the xfce team with their documentation. We'll see if anyone responds. It seems like they only update their web pages on a harvest moon in even numbered years. :-/

Seth

lol

maggotbrain

I was hoping to find a blink tag in use, but no luck...

Seth

No, no browsers support <blink> anymore... for good or worse.

maggotbrain

shakes tiny fist

I'll show them textfiles.com/underconstruction

Seth

OO______________OO

maggotbrain

03:50

hehe

I hope that you've seen that before.

Seth

Not that site..

maggotbrain

...kids these days...

Seth

@maggotbrain ??

maggotbrain

que?

Seth

I'm lost.

What do you mean by:

3 mins ago, by maggotbrain

...kids these days...

maggotbrain

03:56

@Seth Oh. sorry. I was making a feeble comparison to xfce's weak documentation.

Seth

oh. OK.

/me is going to jump into a tty and try git again. bbl.

maggotbrain

I think you may have (fortunately)missed all the sites with blinky tags and frames.

good luck!

Seth

04:10

eh, fail.

I'll just have to refork and use Github.

Was trying to just use git...

I'll have to watch the video :P

Reforked and done. \o/

maggotbrain

\m/ rock on!

Seth

There has to be an easier way though...

git add comments.jsonp
git commit -m "My message"
git push ProFormaComments

And of course if you have more than one commit you are supposed to squash them...

maggotbrain

git commit -am "blahblah"?

Seth

@maggotbrain ah, -a. Good idea.

maggotbrain

meh. It saves you one line, but still...every little bit helps.

Seth

04:21

yes.

This whole "Learn code" revolution is depressing.

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maggotbrain

04:35

You could also just pipe the two commands together and hit esc-B to move back and re-edit your comments, no?

Seth

Hm. I guess.

But the point is not having to type the the whole thing :P

maggotbrain

So, alias the two commands to "gc" and "gp" if you wanna be more lazy-ish. ;-)

Seth

I was thinking about an alias ;)

But I'll probably just type the whole thing out for a while.

Wow. codinghorror.com/blog

discourse.org <-- Jeff's new project

stars --^

user19161

04:59

@Seth Hey Seth!

Seth

Hello @JacobBlack

What's up?

user19161

Nothing's up. Everything's down, lol.

Seth

lol

user19161

So did you watch Twilight?

Seth

If you meant the site, I can access it.

@JacobBlack Nah, not a movie guy.

user19161

05:01

Nah, I meant my life.

Seth

@JacobBlack Oh. I'm sorry :(

user19161

@Seth OK, Twilight is where Jacob appears.

Seth

Yeah, I knew he was from the series... somewhere.

user19161

Anyway, I tried out Xubuntu 12.04 and thought it was really well done.

Seth

oh?

I've never really liked XFCE

Gotta run for now.

History lecture.

user19161

05:05

@Seth Have fun!

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Ask Ubuntu Meta

06:30

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Q: Does receiving no reputation for good comments pollute the Answer?

As you get no reputation for good comments it makes more sense to add your comment as a answer so you might get some reputation. I have seen that done quite often. Answers given that should really be comments. If some reputation were given for up voted comments it might eliviate some of this?

feature-request answers reputation up-votes

George Edison

Awww yeeeahh! Just got my Android app to create an empty Git repository.

Progress is being made!

vasa1

07:05

@maggotbrain You mean here: docs.xfce.org ? I'm asking because the Xubuntu team seems to have their own documentation.

Takkat

09:26

> The Void is the philosophical concept of nothingness manifested.

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09:46

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Q: How to use lockstat.txt on ubuntu12.04

I have ubuntu 12.04 installed on my machine. I want to use lockstat, I have looked at Documentation/lockstat.txt but I am not getting how to use it, if possible please help me out. IN DETAIL:- I am working on a project adapting system software like the Linux kernel. I read one paper titled "Expe...

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Amith KK

11:04

appears :P

Takkat

Hi @AmithKK - welcome to the Void :)

skunkfrukt

It's getting crowded in here. :O

Amith KK

@Takkat Hello

@skunkfrukt not as much as the old times

Takkat

So many people here, I can hardly see myself.

Rishee

Hi guys....

Takkat

11:12

See? Another one appeared ---->^^ Hi @Rishee

Rishee

:P

skunkfrukt

@Rishee Hello.

Rishee

I am posting one question in which I want to post a big log so is there a website where we can upload that log file and just give link to the log file in the quetion

??

Zignd

Hey guys can you answer me something? Do moderators have permition to delete questions? Even with answers?

@Rishee I recommed paste.ubuntu.com

Rishee

@Zignd I think they do?

thanks buddy!! :)

Takkat

11:15

They can.

Zignd

@Takkat But look at this question askubuntu.com/questions/265036/… Why @fossfreedom didn't deleted it?

Takkat

It may still be of (admittedly little) help for other people who come here from Google.

If the OP now deletes his own question, they will earn a badge :)

fossfreedom

@Zignd unless its particularly "nasty" - no reason to delete outright ... the system will delete it after a while anyway. It it can be salvaged by the OP then all the better and we can reopen it.

Zignd

Humm Now it makes sense

Takkat

salvaged questions are precious but rare gems.

fossfreedom

11:19

... art of moderation is to be moderate in your actions and thoughts.

no need for the sledgehammer approach

Takkat

... which is not ususally the case for Community mod.

fossfreedom

community mod is unthinking, unfeeling ...

Amith KK

amazing spike in unity-tweak-tool downloads

fossfreedom

share the results

Amith KK

:P

@fossfreedom This?

fossfreedom

11:23

over what time period?

Amith KK

A half week or so

:P

fossfreedom

that is impressive - kudos all round

Amith KK

Actually need to get hold of some analytic software or something on django

fossfreedom

are you really only at v0.0.3 ... should have thought that would be v0.3

Amith KK

with all those cool graphs :P

Zignd

11:36

Unity Tweak Tool is under development?

I could not find it's ppa.

Takkat

11:53

@Zignd ^^ launchpad.net/~freyja-dev/+archive/unity-tweak-tool-daily

Zignd

@Takkat what about this launchpad page launchpad.net/unity-tweak-tool it's the official page?, I was going to subscribe to the translation team.

Takkat

@Zignd yeah that's it.

Amith KK

@Zignd that's it

Zignd

Ok so, time to translate!

Amith KK

cool, thanks @Zignd

cya

Zignd

12:03

cya

jrg

12:14

I think its time to move comments to third class citizens instead of second.

@amithkk @jokerdino USE SEMVER. please? :-)

If you have a usable product that is released, tag it 1.0. If you only have a 1.0rc, then tag it 1.0rc.

None of this 0.0.x stuff.

Zignd

What they're in means?

jrg

semver.org

@zignd apostrophes.

Zignd

so it's the same as they're in?

jrg

Yes.

Zignd

@jrg thanks!

jrg

12:18

Its used (sometimes) in HTML, for browsers that aren't sane.

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13:14

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Q: IPsec & cypharing algorithm Linux Ubuntu

3 down vote favorite What is the package that contain the implementation of IPsec and what is the package that contain the implementation of cypher algorithms that IPsec uses for enctiption? I need to use custom crypto aldorithm in IPsec so I need to edit the implementation of those two packages

ubuntu ipsec

FEichinger

List of XML and HTML character entity references

In SGML, HTML and XML documents, the logical constructs known as character data and attribute values consist of sequences of characters, in which each character can manifest directly (representing itself), or can be represented by a series of characters called a character reference, of which there are two types: a numeric character reference and a character entity reference. This article lists the character entity references that are valid in HTML and XML documents. Although in popular usage character references are often called "entity references" or even "entities", this usage is wrong. ...

@jrg Actually, no. Browsers that interpret plain text special characters aren't "sane", they're messy.

Zignd

@FEichinger thanks for the link. It'll be very helpfull during the translation I'm doing.

FEichinger

Any time. You could also just put it into a *.html file and open that in your browser. ;) Should convert them to the correct characters.

jokerdino

14:23

@jrg we don't really have a usable product. when the product is mature, we'll bump it to 1.0

jrg

14:33

@jokerdino you have a publicly available product, right?

@FEichinger well, right.

jokerdino

@jrg yeah

jrg

then it's 1.0, or 1.0rc

and then you do ~ppa1, ~ppa3, ~ppa1023

for incremental changes.

Interesting. - zurmo.org

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14:59

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Q: No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. Makefile ubuntu

When I execute the command sudo make I get this error: No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.

ubuntu make

crl

15:25

what does 'native' means on linux?

jokerdino

native package or code?

crl

both

Oli

About as much as it means elsewhere: Not much.

You can pretty much distil it to: not running through a random, quirky compatibility layer that it was never designed to run through.

Java and Mono (and even interpreted stuff: php, python, etc) would be "native-enough" in my book.

crl

it means 'directly tied to your system' so?

@Oli k

jokerdino

@Oli looks like most of the languages would be native for you.

perhaps not html5

The Lord of Time

16:07

Hi!

jokerdino

Hey dude, it's dead. All of it.

The Lord of Time

but of course!

the time of the ending has arrived, so naturally, everything's dead.

no, but seriously, what do you mean "it's dead"

jokerdino

The Ubuntu community of course!

They have declared it dead.

The Lord of Time

who declared it dead.

jokerdino

The people who matter.

The Lord of Time

16:10

@JorgeCastro ping?

so you are one of those people too.

right...

i'm starting to think i shouldn't have voted you for moderator now that you're being defeatist.

jokerdino

:P

@TheLordofTime that's exactly what i dont like about the planet right now.

The Lord of Time

@jokerdino the fact everyone's being defeatist?

or the fact i shouldn't have voted you for mod?

jokerdino

yeah, it's annoying.

The Lord of Time

(holy crap, I almost made a slip and wrote in bronyspeak o.o someone shoot me now please)

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jokerdino

@TheLordofTime no one talks about the mods on planet?

Tomarinator

16:13

Hi people , I have a doubt. I want to run two commands in the ubuntu terminal in the same line.Now I have been told that the way to do this is, command 1; command2. So I did this Desktop/apps/twitter_bot/twitter-bot-env/source bin/activate; python Desktop/apps/twitter_bot/yugdom.py

Actually in the first command i enable a virtual env, and in the second one i run a certain python file, but this is not working, apparently the virtual environment doesnt get activated, Can you take a minute out of your time to look ito this please.

jokerdino

command 1 && command 2

i think ^

The Lord of Time

@jokerdino this

the ; indicates sequence: command1 runs first, and once it exits, command2 runs.

in my server reboot or restore scripts, there's an order I have to restart/restore services, so the ; operator works because I can throw everything on one line, and everything comes back one after another

but... :P

jokerdino

hehehe

brb; dinner

Amith KK

tells everone that I am here

Tomarinator

One more thing, what the way to enable a virtual env from the terminal in a single line, this doesnt work:-> Desktop/apps/twitter_bot/twitter-bot-env/source bin/activate

The Lord of Time

16:16

@jokerdino whether the community dies or not, nginx is one of the things I work with, and in fact some in nginx upstream wouldn't mind me having upload rights for nginx, so i'm not really sure I count as part of the "community"

more rather "upstream assigned triager and uploader"

Tomarinator

error returned is bash: Desktop/apps/twitter_bot/twitter-bot-env/source: No such file or directory

The Lord of Time

@Tomarinator is "source bin" the full folder name?

including the space?

more likely you are missing a /

Tomarinator

I enable my virtual env like this only, i cd to the directory and do: source bin/activate.

The Lord of Time

nobody answers my questions nowadays

why do i even bother...

goes back to bug triaging, where he at least gets an answer

Tomarinator

oh sorry

no source bin is not the full folder name

The Lord of Time

16:19

then try putting a / between the two in your path

or better yet

try this path:

~/Desktop/apps/twitter_bot/twitter-bot-env/source/bin/activate

SomeKittens

Can I ask a question about Mint, or will I get perma-banned?

The Lord of Time

assuming Bash, ~ will autofill to your home directory

@SomeKittens I won't shoot you, but I will tell the mods to slap you.

5

@SomeKittens Mint is offtopic on Ask Ubuntu.

8

SomeKittens

Right, forgot how racist you guys were. Welp, I'm off.

Tomarinator

I got it source Desktop/apps/twitter_bot/twitter-bot-env/bin/activate, works :)

The Lord of Time

@SomeKittens its not "racism"

Oli

16:22

@SomeKittens Wouldn't call it racism, it's just not Ubuntu.

The Lord of Time

@Oli THIS STATEMENT IS TRUE!

SomeKittens

Ok, sorry. Installed Ubuntu. Now will you help?

The Lord of Time

@SomeKittens sure, go ahead.

keeps an eye on this room

SomeKittens

I booted this morning after upgrading to 12.10 and found that ~~Mint~~ Ubuntu couldn't find my network adapter. ifconfig can't find it at all, ip addr shows an eth2 but that isn't doing anything for me. lspci shows that the controller itself still exists.

$ inxi -SNxz
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
    driver: r8169 ver: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 02:00.0

The Lord of Time

right, you're using THAT trick that the IRC newbies try too... they use Mint but try and get Ubuntu support for it.

returns to bug triaging

fossfreedom

16:48

@SomeKittens - best ask mint questions on a mint forum - we cant help you with whatever the mint devs have decided to change in the underlying base code.

jokerdino

What's racist about Mint?

fossfreedom

the colour - its green vs purple

jokerdino

Oooooh

fossfreedom

I said it before and I say it again - let the mint crowd accept the ubuntu community rules fully - then we can all be one happy family.

jokerdino

But wasn't the ubuntu community declared dead? :-)

fossfreedom

16:56

stop reading the planet stuff

read mark's reposte

jokerdino

i try but i crave for some drama

fossfreedom

then read the phoronix forums - and afterwards stick your head in the proverbial oven

jokerdino

lol @ proverbial oven.

anyway, i need to research on how a community is supposed to work.

fossfreedom

its 5pm - bbl - time to wander off home.

jokerdino

@fossfreedom cya!

"wander"?

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