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08:09
BBL
08:50
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I guess they usually come up with two partitions only.
@IgnitE Plus Recovery and EFI
2 partitons + recovery maybe but what about the 4.th?
@Takkat EFI :P
08:59
oh EFI is GPT isnt it?
Yeah
For the UEFI Boot sequence
UEFI on Windows 7?
So they mix GPT/MSDOS partitions to be stuck on the 4 part limit?
@IgnitE Yeah
I think that works
I have my 1TB disk on EFI
WinXP can't read it
@IgnitE x64
The one and only time I installed 7 it was on two partitions:
09:05
another redesign :P
Redesigns are for people who believe that after that all other things also are much much better. ;)
It isn't announced yet? Is it?
@IgnitE It is
March 7th
I meant what would the design be like isn't announced yet!
BBL
10:16
oy. Help comes with a price.
How does the mumble mumble not update my mumble mumble when I am certain that I mumble mumbled the system?
Oh. and by the way. I uninstalled, reconfigured, and edited the config files. So why doesn't it mumble mumble?????
11:04
BBL
11:37
@AmithKK that redesign is only useful for background check/profiler type people. while i agree for that type of person a time selector being prominent would be convenient, most people don't care when what happened if it didn't happen today.
12:06
Some sneaky spam tonight. At least I got to see the dark side of Bollywood. :-/
12:18
also, i'm pretty sure it's not a redesign. shrink your window until the chat sidebar disappears and it looks just like that....
13:04
phew! too many networking problems!
Does anyone know of a decent network troubleshooting guide for Ubuntu? For both wired/wireless
@maggotbrain Any movie in particular?
The archwiki or the freebsd tome both cover networking subsystems really well (admittedly, freebsd network stack is different but similar)
Some problems are unique to few laptops. It would be great if we have these listed somewhere
there's a blanket intel question here. it would be great if all problems just solved themselves...
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Q: How can I troubleshoot problems with an Intel wireless card?

AbrahamVanHelpsingHow can I troubleshoot the issue? Problems range through: Poor connection speeds Dropped connections Failure to connect Seemingly random disconnects Poor range Card is stuck in hardware disabled state

13:13
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Err I can just use some stalking script for that :P
BBL
jrg
jrg
> Note: You no longer need to edit /etc/hosts, systemd will provide host name resolution, and is installed on all systems by default.
now that's a nice thing from arch.
 
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14:24
Good morning mortals.
Good evening!
@RolandiXor As if you are immortal (seriously)?
@smartboyhw you'd be surprised.
But let's leave it at that :)
@RolandiXor Uh. BTW new Gravatar?
Yeah :)
14:33
@RolandiXor How can we actually see it when it's PITCH BLACK!?
Old, but just brought it back out.
Can't you see my eyes?
@RolandiXor Bah your eyes aren't blue..
There are a lot of things you don't know about me, I see.
@jrg Ah nice
@AmithKK And welcome:)
@AmithKK XD
@RolandiXor has Synthesia
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Sonic Gangam style?
Seen that :P
Yerp. You so like sonic I figured I'ld send it over to try and override taylor swift
14:38
MMD anims are nice :P
Well, they have to work with the collision detaction
+1 lol
@AmithKK what?
@RolandiXor It's a somewhat cool mental condition thing
Actually no, I just have a sense of humour.
It's a rare condition, not many people have it.
jrg
jrg
@AmithKK yeah, arch has some nice things.
if ubuntu went rolling, i might consider tinkering with arch, because it'd really cost me nothing.
14:43
My point was proven.
I make an epic statement, no one even says "haha".
jrg
jrg
haha @RolandiXor
@RolandiXor HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
14:46
=)
(follow the link, it made me laugh :P)
O_o
10hrs!
@RolandiXor yeah
I'll pass @AmithKK
jrg
jrg
14:48
that will be my favourite long-term video.
@jrg lol wth
@jrg +1
@jrg There's some popping
lol
We stuck one of our friends in a continuous loop of this on his computer
He was like O_O
Also, @jrg
Should have split the audio from the video and played the video in rewind for a smoother transition with a little audio editing. The infini-gangnam would be hilarious then
14:51
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Heh we didn't have time
:P
jrg
jrg
@AmithKK YES.
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YES YES YES.
Define Han Solo style then. Whenever there is any doubt shoot something?
Haaahahahah
needs --a supervote-- an edit to change the tone askubuntu.com/questions/263106/… ... nm
It was okay until "You need to fix this. It's messing with my workflow." As opposed to "How do I fix this"
15:00
Some random stuff: xkcd.com/1172
@IgnitE lol read that
Yep, it is illegal.
15:34
@IgnitE Yea.. not in india :P
Per Gottfrid Svartholm Warg (born 17 October 1984), alias anakata, is a Swedish computer specialist, known as the former co-owner of the web hosting company PRQ and co-founder of the BitTorrent site The Pirate Bay together with Fredrik Neij and Peter Sunde. Parts of an interview with Svartholm commenting on the May 2006 police raid of The Pirate Bay are featured in Good Copy Bad Copy and Steal This Film. He also appears in the 2013 documentary TPB AFK. Americas Dumbest Soldiers and meeting Fredrik Neij Svartholm Warg started the website Americas Dumbest Soldiers which listed deceased US...
Wait what
Trimble brought sketchup?
@AmithKK From Google?
@jokerdino Yeah
Anyone want a speech recognition program?
@jokerdino Something like "Open Rythmbox"
or "tell me how much memory is left"
You want to write or you have one in action?
15:49
@jokerdino I'm writing one
cool.
we saw a demo for ubuntu, didn't we?
@IgnitE Yeah :P
Lets see how far I can get
Is that for mobile or desktop?
15:51
currently desktop.
then i am not sure what amith is trying to do.
for fun perhaps?
Yeah :P
fun
@AmithKK nice
it is nice. julius is what is integrated with unity afaik
that's based solely on this bug though: bugs.launchpad.net/hud/+bug/1131727
jrg
jrg
amith is always doing fun things.
making good progress
:P
16:05
so @jrg - I wonder if android uses the same api as chromium. If it does someone already bundled it up nicely gist.github.com/ederwander/1342497
Audio powered hud, like the one shown in the Ubuntu touch preview
what did I do, when I was in school o.O ?
@AbrahamVanHelpsing I'm using that
jrg
jrg
@AbrahamVanHelpsing that's an interesting thought.
@IgnitE not what @AmithKK and I are doing.
we are changing the world.
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16:06
@AmithKK Like you were or you saw it and went \o/
i were
I used Turbo C at school :P
You know what might be interesting? Integrating that, but having an anonymous voice donation to corpus built-in to Ubuntu to be contributed to all the open voice corpus things.
@IgnitE I was forced to use java
@AbrahamVanHelpsing I am too
0
Q: beagleboard com and HDMI dispaly

MercuryI've installed Ubuntu 11.10,lkde and gem on my BB and I connect to it through serial com. when trying GUI application through the com (e.g. gedit) I get "display not found, though a monitor is connected to the HDMI output. Is it possible to pass display from the serial terminal to the HDMI output?

16:11
Here is the exercise. Using an array add an indeterminate number of objects to the array and display the result.

okaaaay... Use an arraylist until the end and cast it to an array. I so cheated, but I wasn't about to implement arraylist myself.
@jrg - you're making a better world...all of them better worlds 3.bp.blogspot.com/_qyhZ9_eXCHM/SbHfI_pcR8I/AAAAAAAAAH0/…
jrg
jrg
hm. whats some business idea that people haven't done yet?
something stupidly simple.
remake the kindle app for linux and make it ad driven
you KNOW when the app is open you have their attention and it's simple to push relevant book ads from amazon
@AbrahamVanHelpsing ?
jrg
jrg
that's a business recipe to get sued to hell and back.
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that's fair. i'm still working on cloning the ereader anyway
they have an android client but no linux client. wth
jrg
jrg
16:22
anything else worth trying to build?
a private app-market and device management thing like google-play offers, but that you can deploy to your own metal in non-open network environments
or a patch to android to "use different signing keys" so you can explicitly deny the normal markets and explicitly only use in house apps
gcc -pthread -fno-strict-aliasing -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O2 -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -fPIC -I/usr/include/python2.7 -c src/_portaudiomodule.c -o build/temp.linux-i686-2.7/src/_portaudiomodule.o -fno-strict-aliasing

src/_portaudiomodule.c:28:20: fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory

compilation terminated.

error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1

----------------------------------------
Command /usr/bin/python -c "import setuptools;__file__='/home/amith/build/pyaudio/setup.py';exec(compile(open(__file__).read().replace('\r\n', '\n'), __file__, 'exec'))" install --single-v
help?
install python-dev
or add it to your build search path
jrg
jrg
16:26
@AbrahamVanHelpsing: Is getting a job different from getting a service contract (from the candidates perspective), in terms of how I should present myself? I remember you saying that you've done some things in the past in this area...
@AbrahamVanHelpsing done installing, now what?
Depends on the client. For some clients it's more severe than getting a job (you NEED this client and they have other options every day). For others it's less severe (client doesn't really have other options that compare to what you're offering). I'm a least effort kind of fellow though.
@AmithKK run it again
Same fail
I'll just use the package
then it's not in your search path. fix -I
@jrg Ideally you would be able to say that all clients are your most important clients, but sadly we don't live in an ideal world. So client management and prioritization.
jrg
jrg
@AbrahamVanHelpsing ok, so i should focus more on the per-client details when i submit my proposal.
as opposed to a job, where i customize my resume for each one, but not as much
16:36
Yes. The only thing that matters is the gap you're filling. It does NOT matter what else you did.
jrg
jrg
k
you'll lose well rounded conversational points, but you'll gain he's exactly what we need points. which one do you want to have?
ALSA lib pcm_dsnoop.c:612:(snd_pcm_dsnoop_open) unable to open slave
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
-_-
0
Q: Installing 12.04LTS Server on a Fake RAID10

frankVScenario Install Ubuntu 12.04LTS Server on a RAID10 with boot on a RAID1. 4 - 2Tb SATA Hard Drives 3 Partitions (/boot, /, and swap) boot (256Mb from each disk) setup in RAID1 /dev/md0 partition is ext2 /dev/md0p1 should be where boot is loaded swap and root partition (remaining disk space) ...

Running my script breaks sound :O
16:47
@UbuntuQuestionsonU&L WAT you installed the ubuntu lts trial?
@AbrahamVanHelpsing O.O they say "Trial" - lol
@AmithKK sound is so easy to break :/
they must be redhat customers
yeah - they do that on purpose.
@AbrahamVanHelpsing and posted the same Q here too: askubuntu.com/questions/263128/…
I think a more appropriate question is how can I clone the grub boot-loader to multiple drives...
Just saying - that's what they really want to know. And a point-and-click guide to do so.
Question how can i login in this site using the 2.0 api? I am trying to make a notify icon for the ubuntu desktop. api.stackexchange.com/docs/js-lib i tried to make a webpage using this. But nothing works. :(
16:58
when i wanted to interface with stackexchange or stack chat i drove a full chromium browser with selenium
@Takkat i make a point of not answering those questions regardless of how good they are because it's really asking can we outsource our support to SE...which is not good. help from SE in a support capacity is fine, but altogether outsourcing support to SE is bad.
jrg
jrg
i practically outsourced our IT infrastructure documentation to SE.
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@AbrahamVanHelpsing +1
jrg
jrg
(or maybe saying that most of our docs are just links to existing SE questions is more accurate)
using existing questions for documentation is fine. asking core business operation questions on SE is not.
?
can't follow srr :/
jrg
jrg
17:03
@Thomas15v that is a question for stackapps.com
:D never thoughted so far
ok i will ask it there thanx
jrg
jrg
(Sorry, we were having two conversations in this room, and I forgot to use the reply button)
@AbrahamVanHelpsing core business operation questions like "How do I hook this up to nagios". ;P
no. like "how do i make absolute hardware redundancy so i can pay a 16 year old minimum wage to manage our datacenter"
jrg
jrg
@AbrahamVanHelpsing well, i could explain that.
but it'd be about triple min wage, i'm not that cheap.
17:06
you see the point i'm driving at. it's not about the age. it's about the ability to pay unskilled labor.
jrg
jrg
lol, i know.
i think builderbot tinkering would be awesome. what if you could construct quadracopters that wield air compressor powered nailguns. build a house from your laptop
getting the lumber in place would be the difficult problem, but you see where i'm going. it would be cool.
17:26
@IgnitE Someone from IIT Karagpur is having an issue here?
How do you know he from IIT-kgp?!
He mentions it in every question.
> I am mtech student of IITkgp,India(Roll 11cs60r23.)
Oh M.Tech :P I'm a B.Tech :P
How useful is the roll number?
It's unique in a college.
and it remains same for your entire stay
17:33
Yeah, I can search all his questions online via his roll number.
He has the same intro every where.
or better still you can see all his asked questions in his profile :P
@IgnitE No, I am talking about the internet.
Oh!!
Seriously! I can make a troll out of this!
Better still, make a trout of it.
He is a M.Tech.
17:57
18:09
Any way to convert NTFS partition into ext4 without formatting and losing data???
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Q: THANKZ TO ALL THAT HELP ME

Thiago L. Gonzalezfirst i try to install ubuntu 12.10desktop removing windows xp home edition. everything was nearly ok, just that grafic card wasnt found, so then i when for a grafic upgrate!! after that i try to install ubuntu 12.04desktop and still not grafic card found. after i try 11.10desktop a lighter ubun...

@karthick87 I don't think so :/
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Q: Convert filesystem NTFS -> EXT4?

wimI have 2 TB of data on an NTFS drive which I would like to convert to EXT4 filesystem. My OS runs on a (comparatively) small 60GB SSD. Is there any way to convert the filesystem, apart from backing up and reformatting?

it probably is pretty risky.
:@ Wy the cache of ubuntu runs always full and begins to swap?
18:27
@jokerdino it depends on what you need. just file-copy sure ntfs to ext4 no problem. permissions or continued use from a legacy (windows) operating system? nope.
yeah that
would make a nice svg avatar
@karthick87
@AbrahamVanHelpsing nice!
My new years resolution. To write code 7 days a week (every day). Not because I get paid to (I don't get paid to code). But because now I am getting paid to do SOMETHING and I consider my day job as subsidizing doing things that need doing.
18:42
?
I code for fun
Code things that are fun. But coding things that are needed means it's not just m4srbtn
How many languages you know?
You don't "know" a language. I'm functional in at least three and can eventually get things done in others.
? lol i can't follow. But i know VB.net, pyhon, java and C
Saying you "know" a language is like saying you "know" english. You can function speaking it, but you don't know english
18:46
Ah i understand it. Indeed I must reform my answer "how many languages you understand?"
Question*
It might be a language barrier. French for example has two different words for know. English has one. I might be over-equating things.
My answer stands. I can read many and grasp what they're trying to do. I can build things in 3 or so with any proficiency.
@AbrahamVanHelpsing I once had a phone interview asking if I knew CSS, they then proceed to say that I should know all of it and not look up things on google.
you didn't want to work there anyway.
yeah, that was the point that it went downhill.
Indeed when i code, google is the manual
(except for VB.net)
18:50
that's like asking an app developer to know all Qt interface classes and methods off-hand. that's what IDEs are for
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not google so much, but the places that google can find for you, which most of the manuals are on the internet for coding internet sites
or knowing that the interactive prompt provides dir()
Oke now i need google translate ;D
python>>>from gi.repository import Gtk
python>>>dir(Gtk.Box)
python>>>help(Gtk.Box)
python>>>

You shouldn't need a website. The built-in docs should work
Goes back to my IDEs comment
18:54
I know but i like to use ctrl + f to find the correct function
That's an argument for a better help system, not a website
wait...there IS a website python api docs bridge
the qt help is awesome, I have found it very nice to look things up with
i never use qt because i use quickly to code :/
quickly was intended to be much greater than it was
But it is a stuppid program. It uses gedit that makes backup and when you would package things it report errors that i need to remove those files first.
Lol it is much more than that.
the python guys understand that packaging equates to saving the universe
i was working on simply for a while...but it was a one man project and i got really bored super-fast. essentially it was simple instead of quickly thrown together...
@AbrahamVanHelpsing Always know where your towel is!
A simpel package command
runs out of a disaster :p
maded a ppa on launchpad but never get the change for uploading something
because this warning
that's not my native language, but it doesn't seem to be critical from what i understand
then, i didn't use quickly once i realized i was better off packaging python apps myself
19:04
Hi guys. What do you think about this answer:
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A: Record a programs output with PulseAudio

Jack O'ConnorWaschtl's answer is fantastic. ixtmixilix asked how to restore regular audio after the recording is finished. The easiest way is to (install and) run the pavucontrol GUI. You should see your audio-outputting application and it's volume meter under the "Playback" tab in there. There will be a butt...

@Lucio ambivalent on that one. they're trying to get to the right place
I am only 2 weeks on linux. I need to learn... :/
How much reputation need a user to upload pictures into a post?
Oh, 10 ten.
I don't remember...not a lot.
jrg
jrg
19:09
20 i think
No, no. Ten
generally they post a link...and someone edits it in if necessary
10
i heard ten. i was expressing something else.
user image
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:D, lol a baby hacker
jrg
jrg
19:20
@AbrahamVanHelpsing: lxc looks useful, you might find it worth looking into.
something like run android inside a LXC container on the ubuntu phone.
? Is HTML a programming language? I thought it was only something to add attributes to a website.
html is most certainly not a programming language
jrg
jrg
@Thomas15v that's why its funny. :P
HTML is the HyperText Markup Language, not the Hypertext Programming Language.
it's a way of giving a page structure.
@jrg I was writing that :P
jrg
jrg
19:22
and then you have CSS, which allows you to make the page stucture pretty.
jrg
jrg
and then you have javascript, which lets you make the page structure do a barrel roll.
@jrg Oh, that is a Programming Language
100%
jk
jrg
jrg
(stick "do a barrel roll" into google and you'll see what I mean)
i know
jrg
jrg
19:22
@Lucio CSS is pretty powerful. :P
@jrg Yeah! I begin to use it like a month ago
Lol download askubuntu.com and remove the stylesheet
jrg
jrg
while it isn't a full programming language, it can do a lot of stuff.
Once you use it, you are addict to it. :P
@jrg Even dynamic stuff, though
19:29
@AbrahamVanHelpsing You are the Internet guy, aren't you?
If I could move my brain in to electronics I would
I would but school is in the way :/
jrg
jrg
that's a "yes".
@Thomas15v Oh, bad for you. I'm in holiday :D
@Lucio If you mean this then yes
19:35
@Lucio I have 1 week school, than 2 weeks stage (don't know of this is the correct english word) and than again 2 weeks holiday. But monday i have 3 tests.
@Thomas15v good luck with that :S
@Thomas15v What is your native language?
dutch
and you?
Spanish. :)
Is the weather good there ?
now for the moment
i haven't seen the sun in 5 weeks.
can't even remember how it looks :/
@Thomas15v Me too! haha
@Thomas15v no at all
We have a bit storm by this days. Until tomorrow
The "Adan" storm.
19:42
@Thomas15v sun is an indirect dependency for human life not a direct one. sun <- plants <- food <- humans. food being a pseudopackage that encompasses plants, animals that eat plants, and animals that eat animals.
The last night was a disaster in some places:
Oh :(. Last times we get those more and more.
Thanks god that is not my car :P
These unpredictable storms. First time it happend it belgium. 2011 cooxpeter.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/…
thank god i don't have a car. i'm building a wee-home, but no car.
19:45
1
Q: Why is the rating tab in VLC not working?

user137017I can't assign ratings! What is the rating tab for? It has always been blank and doesn't change.

someone want to flag it?
Indeed not ubuntu releated
@Lucio questions like that make me tired of...people
Flag or not ?
@AbrahamVanHelpsing When you say building, what do you mean?
@Thomas15v of course! (only if you're agree)
;)
yeas indeed
19:47
@Lucio I'm assembling a list of sources for parts and tools. It's a process, and it's started
flaged offtopic
@AbrahamVanHelpsing It sounds that you are building a kernel, not a house :P
@Thomas15v thanks!
question who is moderator here ?
cricket making noise
@Lucio Same thing really...google wee homes. i'm trying to reduce my footprint + reduce my bills. this way i can do things that matter instead of things that get me paid
19:50
Oh, now I see. You mean green-house. Well, good for you :D
@Thomas15v if you said why you needed a moderator people that know them might ping them for you...
@Lucio i only have a room anyway. so it's not really a reduction in my space

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