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jokerdino

17:00

I am postponing all flagging until the release of results. Sorry guys.

Amith KK

@jokerdino >_<

ObsessiveSSOℲ

offtopic I'm planning to get an amateur radio license soon.

Amith KK

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Yay!

Seth

@ObsessiveSSOℲ I am too.

What country are you in?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

USA.

jokerdino

17:02

He is in Nebraska.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

New York

Seth

oh, OK. For some reason I thought he was from Germany :S

jokerdino

@Seth That would be FEIchinger.

Seth

Yeah, him too.

jokerdino

And a couple of others. Do you want me to list them all?

Seth

17:03

Nah :P

I am getting a little messed up though.

Amith KK

gizmodo.com/5985283/…

Seth

I'll straighten it out eventually.

RolandiXor

jokerdino

@Seth Try Mobius strip. It usually helps.

Möbius strip actually.

Just noticed. ö looks just like the :O.

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öööööö

RolandiXor

ø_ø

Seth

17:05

I cleared my cache and lost my star :/

RolandiXor

°_°

Seth

I thought @FEIchinger used HTML 5 offline storage.

Which shouldn't be cleared with the cache iirc

ObsessiveSSOℲ

What is the maximum allowed power for 802.11 communications in the 2.4GHz band? My regdomain settings are a bit messed up, for some reason.

jokerdino

local storage?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

My card wants to transmit at 1 watt.

Seth

17:07

@jokerdino yeah.

jokerdino

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Q: How persistent is localStorage?

I'm depending heavily on localStorage for a plugin I'm writing. All the user settings are stored in it. Some settings require the user the write regex'es and they would be sad if their regex rules are gone at some point. So now I am wondering just how persistent the localStorage is. From the sp...

jrg

@Oli about 24 hours, max.

Amith KK

@jokerdino Yeah

jrg

@ObsessiveSSOℲ did you get my email?

jokerdino

@jrg without any mod agreements right?

jrg

17:08

@jokerdino i had to agree to it before I got access to the tools.

jokerdino

I'll show myself out then, in the case I am unlucky.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@jrg Yeah.

Seth

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Well, here's an 8 watt Wifi amp.

shrug

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@Seth I got a 1-watt one for $100.

jrg

oh, ok. so it was tuesday night zulu when the election ended, and it was early wednesday afternoon lima when I showed up and dealt with my first flag.

Seth

17:10

@ObsessiveSSOℲ hmm... idk if that's a good price or not.

Amith KK

@Seth O.o

jrg

I was near a bookstore, where there was free wifi.

Amith KK

Is that even legal?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@Seth For its power, it is a good price.

@AmithKK Yeah.

Amith KK

O.o

jrg

17:11

> These amplifier products are available only for export, military, licensed amateur radio and OEM component sales and are not offered for general sale within the USA.

Amith KK

I thought 1w was the legal maximum.

jrg

on that 8-watt one.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I am providing ad-hoc WiFi for like, a mile, and can stick it in master mode if I wanted to make an actual AP.

jrg

@ObsessiveSSOℲ why don't you do car batteries and ubnt devices?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

No time.

RolandiXor

17:12

-1

Q: Best laptop for under $300

I am looking for new laptop for around $300 that will be able to run Ubuntu 12.10? I am having issues with the drives that are on my laptop. I know how to remove windows and put Ubuntu on it.

laptop

Dirty.

Burn it!

jrg

@ObsessiveSSOℲ ah.

Amith KK

OMG

jrg

WHO DEALT WITH ALL THOSE FLAGS?!

we were pushing 90 earlier today. :(

RolandiXor

O_o

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@RolandiXor The laptop I am using as a paperweight right now.

RolandiXor

17:12

lol

Seth

@jrg @jokerdino maybe? Oops, 3 hours early. nvm.

Amith KK

A 1mile Radius with Open Security would work as a great honeypot

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@AmithKK Yeah.

During robotics practices and meetings, though, it can only reach the robot's onboard transmitter from like 300 feet since that transmitter is so weak.

jrg

@AmithKK we're doing that at work.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

As it turns out, our card also drowns out any other communication on that channel, and the robot transmitters are hardwired to channel 8.

Amith KK

17:14

@jrg dsploit.net

gideon

hey have I missed some etiquette with my question? If I will run into any problems blocking all outgoing ports.

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Q: blocking all outgoing ports and its consequences

update: Seems the right way to do this is : ufw default deny outgoing But what are the consequences of doing this on amazon ec2? I'm running ubuntu server in an EC2 instance. This server just does the job of executing some perl scripts. I want to block all outgoing ports on this server. I ...

server firewall amazon-ec2

Seth

According to the FAQ we don't offer buying recommendations. — Seth 5 secs ago

jrg

well, probably. we're going to be running some large UBNT outdoor stations, with the radius of 500-800 feet.

Amith KK

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Ah, yeah

jokerdino

@Seth good one bro. but it wasn't me.

Amith KK

17:15

Dude... this is the perfect pocket pentesting tool :P

ObsessiveSSOℲ

So, none of the three teams except ours can actually test their robots while I am connected.

jrg

@AmithKK that is totally worth rooting for.

Amith KK

@jrg I was like amazed

Seth

@jokerdino XD

jrg

@AmithKK can you root without losing everything on the device?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

17:15

The school sysadmin made me install Backtrack.

Amith KK

I mean.. Live Traffic Manipulation

jrg

because if so, let me reboot and root.

jokerdino

@Seth :P

jrg

@ObsessiveSSOℲ oh man, really? In a VM or bare metal?

Amith KK

@jrg I guess

jrg

17:16

@AmithKK on my rooting way.

Amith KK

I never needed to clean to root

@jrg gtalk :P

jrg

@AmithKK hangon

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@jrg My choice... I am using bare metal on a separate hard disk.

jrg

@ObsessiveSSOℲ oh, smart.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

USB3.0

jrg

17:17

was going to say, don't trust your actual installs with a tool used for uh, shall we say, inspecting malware.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Yeah.

Mr. Fitz also made me break into the school network twice.

jrg

you do have a contract, right?

jokerdino

Mr. Fitz who? Fitzgerald?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

It was WPA2, I ended up using aircrack-ng's bruteforce tooks with deauth attacks.

@jokerdino Yes.

jokerdino

I see. I know him from his works.

jrg

17:18

YOU DO HAVE A CONTRACT, RIGHT?!

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@jrg Yeah, I'm under contract. It IS bureaucratic, unfortunately.

jrg

@ObsessiveSSOℲ oh, good.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Google Translate needs "Bureaucratese"

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Or the related dialect "legalese"\

jrg

@AmithKK i'm online.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I had the bad idea once of showing the neighbor with the slow internet how to use aircrack-ng.

jrg

17:22

gah, why

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Don't know.

Amith KK

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Noooo

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Deauth attacks?

Seth

Can jpeg handle transparency or do I need to use .png?

Amith KK

@Seth .png

ObsessiveSSOℲ

That was two days before I finally switched over to WPA2(my robot transmitters would need to be upgraded first), and he thankfully also had a slow CPU.

Seth

17:23

@AmithKK K

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@AmithKK No, just how to crack WEP.

Amith KK

those are painful in the wrong hands

seriously

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Yeah, so I'm trying to harden my drivers and my robot transmitters not to listen to deauth requests. I;m using my laptop's card in master mode to act as an AP.

Amith KK

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Mind keeping me updated on that?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Just use aluminum foil instead.

Seth

17:25

@ObsessiveSSOℲ You know Amateurs get to use 50 (kHz?) for one way RC communications?

and Telemetry

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Oh. cool.

I just use an application level command set with my robotics experiments, over 802.11g or 802.11n.

Seth

ah, OK. That's not exactly mobile though right?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

It IS within a mile.

Seth

oh Wow.

Amith KK

@ObsessiveSSOℲ O.o

ObsessiveSSOℲ

17:27

But, it can run autonomously after exiting range, and try to get back within range.

Amith KK

Over a plane surface right?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Assuming no wheel slip, skid, or large falls.

Amith KK

No Obstacles

Seth

That's pretty cool @ObsessiveSSOℲ.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

It can reenter range around obstacles, but 1 mile is with line of sight.

It generally outsources image processin to a computer, after transferring over WiFi/

jokerdino

17:29

I am going to bed. Someone ping me if something happens sometime soon.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

OK.

2 hours away!

jokerdino

Bye. waves

Seth

When I try sudo cp help /usr/share/audacity

jokerdino

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Good luck!

Seth

I get cp: omitting directory 'help'...

ObsessiveSSOℲ

17:29

And the same to you,

@Seth I think you want help/*

Amith KK

Good Luck to all of you!

jokerdino

I would much prefer good night. Thanks! :)

Seth

@ObsessiveSSOℲ ah, probably.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

You want to copy the files within the directory, not the dir itself,

Seth

No, I want the whole dir to go.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

17:30

I really can't type accurately now, I was thrown and landed on my hand.

FEichinger

@Seth SECBU uses localStorage, which is quite awful.

Seth

It and everything in it.

Oh, heya @FEichinger

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Then, mkdir /usr/share/audacity/help followed by a cp of files.

FEichinger

Heya.

Seth

@ObsessiveSSOℲ :/ errg, OK.

@FEichinger Can you get me a plain picture of the guy holding a broom? I need it for something.

in Ask Ubuntu 2013 Moderator Elections, 2 days ago, by FEichinger

Like that --^

ObsessiveSSOℲ

17:32

Don't try to overoptimize, or you'll become Microsoft Visual Studio.

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Seth

lol

FEichinger

@Seth beta.lemonmeme.com ;)

Seth

thank you.

Amith KK

FEichinger

myfacewhen.net/view/3578-all-the-things

Just google "all the things"

Amith KK

17:34

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Seth

OK

Here goes:

And help us:

In the Regulators Room.

Now, @AskUbuntuMeta, we need you to advertise that.

Amith KK

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RolandiXor

:D

ObsessiveSSOℲ

The images are getting a bit out of hand, IMO.

RolandiXor

I got an email from a user on AU :)

I'm touched!

Amith KK

17:39

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Yeah :P

@RolandiXor :)

Seth

Wohoo for you @RolandiXor!

RolandiXor

That's a mighty rare occurrence - and it wasn't spam!

Seth

@ObsessiveSSOℲ I'm done.

Just that one advertisement.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

OK.

Amith KK

Welcome @Aditya

Aditya

17:40

@AmithKK Thanks Amith

How are you?

Seth

Close Votes Please:

-3

Q: Best laptop for under $300

I am looking for new laptop for around $300 that will be able to run Ubuntu 12.10? I am having issues with the drives that are on my laptop. I know how to remove windows and put Ubuntu on it.

laptop

Amith KK

I'm fine :)

Seth

@AmithKK Thankie.

Amith KK

@Seth Fiiiinnaaaallll Voooote!

ObsessiveSSOℲ

How was the diamond chosen for moderators? Why not another character?

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Seth

17:41

Yeah, why not ★

FEichinger

Mods should get ♥

Just for the sake of it.

Seth

Will mv move a whole file and it's contents?

Amith KK

Why not ❁?

Seth

Ooh la la.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

⚔

Amith KK

17:43

┌─┐ Interesting question
┴─┴
ಠ_ರೃ

It should have been ☢ :P

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FEichinger

We have a winner!

Seth

yeah really.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@FEichinger Wait? The resuts were announced?

No...

FEichinger

@ObsessiveSSOℲ No, a winner character for mods. ;)

Seth

@AmithKK emm, NO. Mods are not kings. As @MarcoCeppi would love to tell you :P

Amith KK

17:45

Bzz! Radioactive modz are coming to fry your bad posts!

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@Seth or ♿ ;)

Seth

@AmithKK I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything...

Or I would have ruined my screen :/

Amith KK

⚖

That is appropriate

Seth

in In Praise of Moderators on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 21 secs ago, by Seth

in Ask Ubuntu General Room on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by Amith KK

Bzz! Radioactive modz are coming to fry your bad posts!

XD

Wait, how come it's not Ask Ubuntu General room?

Amith KK

@Seth it is

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Can someone link to the mod agreement? I read it over, but I want to take another look.

Never mind, found it.

Seth

17:50

@AmithKK Ah, you're right. nvm.

Amith KK

Mods are not born. They are made when people are exposed to high levels of gamma radiations.

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RolandiXor

There is a donkey on the Ubuntu Tablet page.

All is well with the world again.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

> If you don’t like cookies or have other dietary restrictions, please tell your browser.

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Seth

/me wants Ubuntu tablet :(

It looks so. slick.

Amith KK

@Seth Sooon

Seth

17:53

Even better than WebOS.

Amith KK

Well I'll try to port it to the Nex7 if I ever get one

Seth

Also, I tried that live wallpaper, worked fine. I don't have anything near a nice display.

Amith KK

Can anyone loop this?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

/o

Rinzwind

so the 2 timers where for diff, things?

jrg

17:57

right

Rinzwind

@seth me is getting one. no "wanting" there. I am :D

Amith KK

BBT

Good Night

Rinzwind

@AmithKK hates me :(

Amith KK

Woah!

Seth

@Rinzwind Lucky you ;)

Amith KK

17:58

@Rinzwind Long time no see

Rinzwind

2nd time he leaves just when I enter >:D

Amith KK

damn.... wow I had to leave now

Man, be there tommorrow :)

For now cya

jrg

cya @AmithKK

Rinzwind

@seth I also am getting a ps4 the 1st day I can ;)

bye amithkk

Seth

ooh nice :)

Rinzwind

18:01

@seth and an Ubuntu phone ofc. :D :D

Seth

I got Cyanomod 7 on my LG Fathom yesterday \o/

Rinzwind

2 idi... ehm ppl at work are apple fanat... eh users.

and swear by them and always see only the good things of apple products so I want to blast them away with lots of Ubuntu stuff

Seth

Gotta run for now.

@Rinzwind go for it ;)

Rinzwind

I am SOOOOOOOOO gonna hook that phone to a display 2set

bye seth

Seth

Real quick: @ObsessiveSSOℲ It's 50 MHz not KHz :embarrassed:

ObsessiveSSOℲ

18:07

Yeah, I doubt 50KHz would do much. No worries,

Seth

OK :)

ObsessiveSSOℲ

About 1:50 before the elections close...

Rinzwind

@ObsessiveSSOℲ I am betting on Rolandixor, Luis and jokerdino in random order >:D

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Same here.

yeah, I'm a pessimist, but, who knows?

Rinzwind

I expect 250 euro from SE owner if I am correct >:)

oh did anyone of you receive those T-shirts and pens etc TWICE last year? Since I did :D

ObsessiveSSOℲ

18:13

Nice!

Rinzwind

That's in France :=D

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@Rinzwind If you're basing your prediction based on primaries, remember that STV can act very weirdly in some cases.

Rinzwind

hmm darn D:

jrg

@Rinzwind i did get two.

Rinzwind

cool so they shared the leftovers @jrg :D

jrg

18:15

i think everyone got two.

Rinzwind

18:39

the 2nd one came the day after I spilt cola on the 1st :P

ObsessiveSSOℲ

18:55

Just over an hour left!

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