Ask Ubuntu General Room

Rinzwind

14:17

@mojo706 yes, you'll get kicked though but you can :)

otherwise try a non-english curse word >:D

gee Oli keeps making good replies forcing me to upvote :P

Oli

@Rinzwind I haven't mortarboarded in a while - thought I'd have a bit of fun today :)

Rinzwind

lol

good reply on the python q :D

Rinzwind

14:36

@oli phoen? really? >:)

grr @anwar beat me to it :D

Oli

:( Somebody had to end my killstreak eventually

Rinzwind

for all the dutch people: tweakers.net/nieuws/87361/…

in short: dell brings an ubuntu notebook with hd screen to Holland

Oli

Know if there's been any word on UK pricing yet?

Rinzwind

hmmm checking

I found: US, Canada and now Holland. No UK yet :P

Oli

pcpro.co.uk/news/380062/dells-ubuntu-ultrabook-lands-in-uk says there's no pricing yet.

For the last version of this model the UK price was higher for Ubuntu than it was for Windows so I expect this version to be several zillion pounds.

Rinzwind

14:42

ah dutch one has no price either.

Takkat

No price is o.k. - I take it!

Oli

Yeah I wish it worked like that. Would be nice to replace the 1st-gen i3 13" laptop with something this powerful.

It's just a shame Intel don't do discrete graphics cards.

Rinzwind

I hate 2x USB systems. I want to be able to use an USB mouse and copy files from usb stick to another usb stick.

Oli

Is that all it has?!

Rinzwind

it's an ultrabook ;)

Takkat

14:48

Ultra is always less of all (except price of course).

Oli

Still, it'd be twice as ultra with a few more ports.

Jorge Castro

I'm personally going for an X1 Carbon

Marco has the XPS, it's nice but no trackpoint!

Oli

I guess there are fairly low-profile, unpowered USB hubs which should be fine for a couple of USB sticks, or a mouse and a stick, etc

jrg

yeah, no trackpoint.

Rinzwind

@oli ultra here means "as less as possible" :P

Oli

14:49

Trackpoint==nipple? (Edit: yes, trackpoint is the mouse-nipple thing on thinkpads)

jrg

yeah

Takkat

Why don't they always ship the top 20 AU users preview examples for beta-testing, debugging and recommending? We would do that for free!

jrg

~~@Takkat then you don't get one.~~

Takkat

well, recommending would cost a ~~bit~~ lot ~~perhaps~~ if the device is not really good.

jrg

then I don't get one. make it the top 36.

Takkat

14:54

Top 20 + the mods.

jrg

there we go.

youch, that's a lot of money.

Takkat

The voluntary AU testers are free to give their example to any other user, provided they are members on AU too.

Then we'd have a massive increase in users and the bribing would start.

Oli

I'd also be willing to test 4TB HDDs... Perhaps 8 of them would be nice.

And a NAS. I'd need to test a NAS as well.

jrg

always have been.

jokerdino

15:11

@Oli I totally read that as motorboat.

Oli

@jokerdino Haha I'd have close to zero points if they could be traded in for things like that

jokerdino

Bad boy.. hehe

Oli

From the makers of the Bounty comes... Booty.

jokerdino

Looks like that thought crossed your mind after all. ;)

Anwar

@Rinzwind :)

good evening

jokerdino

15:21

@Anwar good evening.

Rinzwind

yo @anwar :)

Anwar

was reading an article...

Rinzwind

me was coding :\ debugging someone else his mess

jokerdino

@Rinzwind You are not in my team, are you?

Coz I keep doing that.

Anwar

it was a great feeling to edit Oli's post? ;P

jokerdino

15:22

(As in, creating mess)

Rinzwind

@jokerdino unlikely :=)

jokerdino

@Rinzwind It felt too similar. That's why. :>

Rinzwind

@Anwar whenever Jorge makes a typo I get scared to edit it >:D

Luis Alvarado

Am starting to think that, to celebrate the new moderators in Askubuntu, Ubuntu is throwing the Ubuntu/HTC announcement.

Anwar

@Rinzwind lol..

who knows, what was on his mind?

Rinzwind

15:25

@luis "BREAKING on www.htc.com WE ANNOUCE THE NEW MODS OF AU 2 MINUTES BEFORE AU"

jokerdino

Probably creating a new word?

Anwar

no wonder for him

Luis Alvarado

@Rinzwind so its the opposite. Since Ubuntu hates the 3 new moderators that will get elected, they are moving the spotlight to the Ubuntu/HTC announcement, effectively leaving the poor mods alone... forever....

Oli

Rinzwind

you are on my list @LuisAlvarado >:D as #2 or #3 >:)

Luis Alvarado

15:27

Thanks buddy but... we will be forever alone

Rinzwind

@oli to make it more fun 1 of the 2 should have had a 41:36 and count down twice as fast :D

Takkat

Who stole the minute?

Luis Alvarado

countdown for me is 32 minutes right now

jokerdino

Ubuntu stole the limelight and the minute too?

Oli

@LuisAlvarado That's just relativity for you

Rinzwind

15:28

lol

Luis Alvarado

ok sorry that was 31 minutes ago

they are announcing the new product right now

Oli

In infinite universes they've already released it and it took 100% of the tablet market.

Takkat

The wait is over -- wut???

Oli

Although in infinitely more universes that didn't happen.

jokerdino

Oli is talking physics and stuff. I am outta this..

Oli

15:30

And in another infinite universes (of which I guess there's an infinite overlap with the ones I've just been talking about) I've just been murdered by infinite people jealous of my diamond.

Luis Alvarado

OMG IS A MICROSOFT HTC APPLE TABLET WITH BUILD-INT BROADCOM WIRELESS NDISWRAPPER DRIVERS AND THE WORD UBUNTU WRITTEN ON THE SIDE...... Definitively an Ubuntu tablet. Looks legit

Oli

pop

Rinzwind

oh darn

0-day exploit in ptrace ...

see seclists.org/oss-sec/2013/q1/326

hmm looks like redhat only :D

jokerdino

Are they still hiring?

jrg

who, redhat?

jokerdino

15:37

Yeah. :>

jrg

who isn't?

jobs.redhat.com

jokerdino

Canonical doesn't seem interested. So, I thought I might try Red hat.. ;)

jrg

learn to use fedora.

jokerdino

Would VM be enough?

jrg

sure.

Rinzwind

15:41

SPAM!

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Q: Se puede instalar alguna distribucion LINUX en un Omnia II GT-i8000

OS Microsoft Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional, upgradeable to Windows Mobile 6.5/6.5.3 CPU Samsung S3C6410 800MHz, dedicated graphics accelerator Card slot microSD, up to 32 GB Internal 2/8/16 GB storage, 256 MB RAM, 512 MB ROM http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8000_omnia_ii-2836.php

windows

requesting hammer!

jrg

hammer deployed.

working... working... working... working... working...

done!

Bruno Pereira

@Oli Dont think you need to get to an alternate universe to see that happening...

Rinzwind

lol still 3 ppl got to dowvote :D you are slow @jrg

jrg

comon canonical, LEAK THE YOUTUBE VIDEO ALREADY!

Eliah Kagan

@Rinzwind Or one person downvoted and another downvoted and spam-flagged. Or two spam flagged and... :)

Anwar

15:43

i was one of them

Rinzwind

me spam flagged too >:D

Anwar

me too

Rinzwind

but it was on 0 when I posted the link so jrg is slow >:)

jokerdino

I groaked at the spam

Anwar

can't agree more ;P

Oli

15:44

What weird spam. I can't imagine GSMArena needs to spam sites for pagerank...

Or am I the only person who's ever heard of them?

jokerdino

I only know Garena. Bailing out.

Amith KK

appears

jokerdino

12 minutes guys.

Takkat

<-- leaving office - BBL

jrg

10 over here.

Amith KK

15:52

8 minutes to announcement

Luis Alvarado

the wait is over ;)

huh??

HTC ONe

what the crap, wasn't there already an htc one?

Bruno Pereira

are we all waiting for the same thing?

Luis Alvarado

yes

Amith KK

@LuisAlvarado No, the ubuntu one

Luis Alvarado

an Nvidia TITAN that takes control of the world

jokerdino

15:53

6 and a half minutes.

Amith KK

PLATFORM ANDROID

Luis Alvarado

same here

6.5

Rinzwind

see you :) going home

Luis Alvarado

yeah

htc lied!!

jokerdino

@Rinzwind cya

Bruno Pereira

15:54

NVIDIA will take over the world in 6.5 minutes??? (Oo)

Amith KK

5:25

@BrunoPereira ubuntu.com

gizmodo.com/5985305/…

Luis Alvarado

they did not say they were going to use Ubuntu and they didn't use it

liers!!

Bruno Pereira

G' dammit, you blink and shit loads happens!

jrg

2 minutes.

Bruno Pereira

@jrg pretty sure everyone can count backwards from 3...

jokerdino

15:58

a minute and a couple of seconds.

Bruno Pereira

just saying

Luis Alvarado

32.7 seconds

24.738 seconds

14.1200091093123 seconds

3.1415 seconds

Bruno Pereira

brb, going to created a ZFS pool of USB sticks

Luis Alvarado

anybody for a swim on that pool?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

How long after the close of the elections are the results known?

jokerdino

15:59

brb, gonna watch Soaps.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@LuisAlvarado Depends on how chlorinated.

Bruno Pereira

MASSIVE F5 PRESSING!

jokerdino

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Matter of minutes I would say.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

OK.

jrg

Ubuntu for tablets demo video

jokerdino

16:01

That is not a screamer, is it?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@BrunoPereira Yeah, I'm going to run to the local computer parts store and ask to borrow all the F5 keycaps they have lying around.

Bruno Pereira

@ObsessiveSSOℲ GO GO!

Luis Alvarado

►

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I am going to use the mouse instead, to refresh.

Bruno Pereira

@ObsessiveSSOℲ NOOOOOOOOOOO!

jrg

16:02

WHEN CAN I DOWNLOAD IT?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

@BrunoPereira Why not?

jrg

> The new preview will run on Google’s Nexus 7 and Nexus 10 tablets.

Bruno Pereira

@ObsessiveSSOℲ its slower? I dunno, why would it be important? ^^

jrg

ahhhhhhhh yeah! I'll get in line.

RolandiXor

@jrg Status?

jrg

16:07

@RolandiXor of raring?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Oh, and I was just offered an internship with my school, in the IT department.

RolandiXor

Objective status?

Luis Alvarado

@ObsessiveSSOℲ go for it. Lucky you.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

It seems that Februauy I get tons of good news, but the other months, only bad news,

RolandiXor

Base status?

jrg

16:08

@ObsessiveSSOℲ whats the deal they offered you?

RolandiXor

/urbanterror

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Unpaid the first summer, but good references for later.

jrg

what is the technology?

and do they intend to make you an intern, or a part of the team?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Technology, and internship.

jrg

the difference between intern and part of the team is that the first only gets coffee, and the latter actually does stuff.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

16:10

They're doing a move from physical to virtualized servers for some services(like the student fileserver) and need an extra set of hands around, but they're keeping most of us subsequent summers.

No, we are actually going to do things.

jrg

that's why i'm technically not a intern, i'm a junior administrator.

oh, cool.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Apparently, I also sat in a stuffy room taking a math test that didn't count for anything except if you got an insanely high score, you could take another math test.

jrg

so, they got skype and evernote builds on the tablet and phones.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Oh, cool.

jrg

i wonder if it will be as finicky as on the desktop.

RolandiXor

16:14

ubuntu.com/devices/tablet

Proof Canonical uses avid hax.

My big question is... will they be making Unity QML only in the future O_o?

jrg

they ditched Qt.

oh man, i was able to rake in the HN votes.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

HN votes?

jrg

hacker news.

news.ycombinator.com

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Ah.

jrg

> What's with Mark's fuhrer haircut?

Ah, reddit. You never cease to amaze me.

Marco Ceppi

16:29

Hipster Shuttleworth

fossfreedom

from the video looks like Mark has a winner on his hands - lets hope he can get a good manufacturer to come on-board.

jrg

@MarcoCeppi, we AU mods need to stick together on HN. ;)

Marco Ceppi

@jrg DOGPILE ALL THE COMMENTORS

RolandiXor

@jrg oh?

jrg

@RolandiXor Qt isn't used for unity 2D anymore, they merged them, remember?

RolandiXor

16:37

@jrg oh yeah I know

Oli

I wonder if they'll reverse that at some point (so everything uses Qt)

RolandiXor

I'm talking about how they use QML on the phone (and I believe on the tablet), and they say that by 14.04 all of Ubuntu will be one codebase for PC, Tablet, and Phone O_o

Oli

Makes sense.

RolandiXor

It does, for many reasons. However, there are some things that can be done in Unity 3D (and better, if someone would put in the effort) that might not be possible with QML.

jrg

maybe,

Oli

16:39

While they're at it, dump gnome, embrace and improve KWin and port the Dash to be a plasma desktop app.

RolandiXor

:P

Oli

I'm stone serious.

RolandiXor

I'd like someone to fix the GTK 3.x problems like menus not scrolling when there are too many items (Xiphos, Ubuntu Tweak, I'm looking at you)

Oli

I started on KDE at the beginning of the year and I'm gob-smacked that Ubuntu hasn't been using it as its base since Gnome started charging off in random directions. KDE is solid, tested and only a little infuriating.

RolandiXor

And now in 13.04, the global menu won't work for most applications -__- (and the bug I reported... ignored... in keeping with the new trend).

jokerdino

16:41

@Oli What happened to the blue?

Aw, hiding behind area51.

Oli

@jokerdino The blue?

RolandiXor

@Oli I understand what you mean - I've also been giving KDE a second look and wondering why we can't have the same level of professional application development in Gnome/Ubuntu/Unity/etc

jokerdino

@Oli Mods have their name blued in the chat. That's all.

Oli

Oh what the ****ing ****. Somebody (another mod) is ****ing around with my profile and has set my chat account to point to my A51 account. This makes me grumpyface.

@jrg @MarcoCeppi @fossfreedom can you poke my account back to life?

jrg

hahahahahahahaaha

that's rather amusing. :P

you're fixed.

Oli

16:44

Ta

Marco Ceppi

Who the hell did that

jokerdino

Still not blue. :>

Marco Ceppi

Actually, that's pretty funny

jrg

i didn't do it though.

Oli

I think I've upset somebody in Mathematics or Gaming or something but this happened a couple of months ago too. Suddenly couldn't connect to the mod channels.

jrg

16:45

OH

i just thought of a really funny one.

jokerdino

Well, just connect your profile to AU account. You would be done.

Oli

@jokerdino That never seems to work for me.

jokerdino

Wait, you are done. Need to refresh page here.

jrg

does annalear have a diamond everywhere?

jokerdino

@jrg yep

Marco Ceppi

16:46

@jrg she's SE

Oli

It could just be a really weird bug.

jokerdino

She is a community manager.

jrg

oh man, that would have been fun.

Marco Ceppi

@jrg I would say you should mess with Grace Note

jokerdino

@Oli Where you looking at your chat profile just a bit earlier?

jrg

16:46

@MarcoCeppi there was a period where the CHAOS people didn't have diamonds everywhere.

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi She would be really pissed, wouldn't he?

Marco Ceppi

@jokerdino She would, but he would get over it. AU > GAMING :P

5

Oli

@jokerdino Nope

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi Heh, she isn't that much of a gamer, or is he?

@Oli Someone probably likes you too much then.

Marco Ceppi

@jokerdino yeah, Grace Note started as a moderator on Gaming

Oli

16:48

@jokerdino or Firefox wants my boot up its ****.

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi That I didn't know. U game bro?

Marco Ceppi

duh

jokerdino

@Oli It rarely happens on its own though.

@MarcoCeppi and you still own stackgaming?

Oli

Wonder if we should start an Ask Ubuntu Steam clantag-jibbery-jooble so we all show up as AskUbuntu <insert name here> in valve games.

Marco Ceppi

Yeah, well the domain at least. The Servers are sponsored by SE now

@Oli might as well just join the Ubuntu steam group?

Oli

16:50

@MarcoCeppi yeah prolly

Marco Ceppi

steamcommunity.com/groups/ubuntu-linux

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi They sponsor gaming servers? o.O

Marco Ceppi

There's also an OMG! Ubuntu! group and Arqade if you want to rep SE

jokerdino

can someone buy askjorge.com and point it to AU?

jrg

already bought, is a real estate farm site.

Marco Ceppi

16:52

@jokerdino Arqade used to do a "Game On!" event where they organized a different game each weekend for the community, for a while I was hosting their servers but eventually SE just bought a server for them to use

Amith KK

@Oli Yea

jrg

can someone text me the results of the election?

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi Ah I see.

@jrg me2

jrg

i won't be around then, or for another 2-3 hours afterwards.

Amith KK

@jrg I can't :P I'll be sleeping

Marco Ceppi

16:53

@jrg they won't be going anywhere :P

Amith KK

Text it to me too pls

jokerdino

I would be napping. Someone text me yo!

jrg

and i'd kind of like something to be happy about during the uberboring thing i've got going on. :P

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I'll be on, I'll probably try email if needed. @jrg @jokerdino @AmithKK

Amith KK

My No: (+91)-9482643902

ObsessiveSSOℲ

16:54

I'm not texting long distance.

Amith KK

:P

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Email. Sorry.

jokerdino

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Do you know the email to text gateway thingie?

jrg

@ObsessiveSSOℲ oh, you'd do that? gee, thanks!

Amith KK

@jokerdino Ah, we can set up Twitter2Txt

Seth

16:54

3 hours.

jrg

i have your email somewhere, let me send you something.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

No, and I really don't want to try to learn how to be social today,

Oli

From memory they wait a little while after the election closes before the results are posted. Although you can download the polls and work it out for yourself.

They may have automated the process since, though...

ObsessiveSSOℲ

New email is [email protected]

jokerdino

I got OpenSTV over here. I do it all the time.

Seth

16:55

@Oli I'll do that and ping the winners :D

jrg

ye hath email, Master @ObsessiveSSOℲ.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I'll just ping, too.

Yes.

Oli

Actual diamonds come after a day or so (once you've signed the mod agreements) so the site should be safe from the new wave of tyranny until tomorrow.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

OK.

Oli

Again, unless that's all been automated now.

jrg

16:57

@Oli but i won't touch any flags, first thing they can do is go through the wonderful NaA flags we've got.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Yeah, but we don't have robots to sign things for us

Seth

I can't wait. YOU SHALL DIE SPAM!! (soon)

Oli

@jrg can you remember how long it took to become moderateered?

Amith KK

@Oli A week

jokerdino

Ooh, Oli got censored.

3

ObsessiveSSOℲ

16:58

@jrg: NaA(not an answer), or NaN due to numerical overflow?

Oli

@jrg Yeah I'm going to run around flagging a few things just to get us up into triple digits :)

@jokerdino It was a joint effort between ff and me :)

jokerdino

When you say FF, I imagine Firefox. Not DM. :P

Oli

@ObsessiveSSOℲ Yeah it would be great if we had so many flags we caused a Stack Overflow :)

jokerdino

@Oli less than two days, I am sure.

Amith KK

@Oli I'll handle it np :P

ObsessiveSSOℲ

16:59

@Oli No, that wouldn't happen without recursion or a Last In-First Out queue.

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