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00:12

How do I do a screenshot of the desktop cube? http://bit.ly/g4VXE6 #compiz

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 7, 2011 at 12:09 AM

jgbelacqua

02:52

No time to talk, just came in here to check the weather! Oh wait, I'm the only one here....

(Er, anyway, just kidding.)

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

03:14

Is there a Gnome3 stable PPA? http://bit.ly/ePm24W #gnome

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 7, 2011 at 3:09 AM

ajmitch

03:34

@jgbelacqua we don't talk about that around here :P

George Edison

Launchpad build system seems to be broken:

> "dpkg-deb: error: control directory has bad permissions 700 (must be >=0755 and <=0775)"

ajmitch

@GeorgeEdison it's known, I saw it being discussed this morning

George Edison

So it's not my package's fault?

ajmitch

no it's not

I don't know when it's being fixed properly, but I did see that the people who know how to do so knew what the problem was :)

George Edison

That's a good sign. I guess I'll just have to retry my recipe later.

ajmitch

03:40

got a link to the build failure?

George Edison

Sure... one sec.

launchpadlibrarian.net/68507911/buildlog.txt.gz

ajmitch

got a link to the page which links to the build failure? :)

mostly trying to get an idea of when it happened

George Edison

@ajmitch Sorry... I'll get that for you.

code.launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+archive/jetserver/…

^---- There we go.

ajmitch

don't worry, I found it :P

right, getting some feedback from an LP friend who works on that area

George Edison

Oh good.

ajmitch

03:56

yeah, hopefully it can be fixed soon

George Edison

04:07

Oh boy! There's an updated firmware for my flash drive!

I'll be back in about 5 everyone.

ajmitch

have fun :)

LP guys are looking at the recipe builder problem, if you're lucky it'll be fixed soon as well

George Edison

04:44

Wow... IE9... is... slow.

trampster

@GeorgeEdison Are you using it on 64 bit. If so the new optimized java script engine only works on 32 bit. The 64 bit one is the old slow one.

George Edison

@trampster No, I have the 32-bit version.

karthick87

05:50

Is it possible to disable Remote Desktop preference?

George Edison

forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94466

^---- We'll see what happens now.

karthick87

@StefanoPalazzo there?

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

06:13

How can you resize the icons in the Unity Dash panel? http://bit.ly/gqOLUp #unity

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 7, 2011 at 6:09 AM

Joshua Robison

anyone in here using awn?

Takkat

Good morning all!

Octavian Damiean

07:50

morning

Takkat

morning @OctavianDamiean

Alvar

08:22

@OctavianDamiean @takkat morgen

Octavian Damiean

morning @Alvar

Takkat

morning @Alvar

Alvar

Does anyone know how all the meetings went last night? :D

Takkat

Oops! Something Bad Happened :(

Howard's being eaten

Octavian Damiean

@Alvar which meetings?

Alvar

08:43

@OctavianDamiean the stackexchange meeting from yestgerday!

Octavian Damiean

oh there was a meeting? Hmm, interesting :D

Alvar

LOL

downloading at 1.5 mb/s on ADSL LOL

Shazzner

I don't know if any of you guys could help me with this?

0

Q: How to recover from fullscreen crash?

I was playing Gnu FreeDink and when I exited out it just sort of crashed and stayed fullscreen with the music playing. I couldn't for the life of me get back to the desktop, alt-tab did nothing, same with ctrl-alt-delete, esc, etc. I've had this happen with fullscreen games, and I usually wind u...

Had it happen a few times, and it drives me nuts

Alvar

09:03

sry

Takkat

@Shazzner can't you killall nameofapp in terminal from Alt+F2?

you need to know the application's name

which is not necessarily the name of the game ;)

Shazzner

@Takkat Yeah I'm sure there's some terminal thing I could have done

but the whole pid != app and that there's no clear instructions on this is kind of frustrating

I heard the secret to a lot of these problems is to run a fullscreen app as a separate xserver, but I have no idea how to do that

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

problem with chmod command http://bit.ly/fqT7KG #chmod

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 7, 2011 at 9:09 AM

Shazzner

I think ubuntu really needs some sort of 'oh crap get me back to the desktop'- panic button

Takkat

09:22

@Shazzner killall needs no pid, only the names the processes from your app have, eg freedink-dfarc nor whatever the application's processes may be called. You'll see that from top command.

Shazzner

@Takkat ah ok cool

Oli

10:51

@Shazzner A while ago (some years now) I hardwired the power button to restart X - AFAIK it's still completely scriptable so you could have it drop you in a TTY and start htop, or something along those lines

Shazzner

@Oli that's brillant

Oli

And of course, when I say hardwired, I don't mean I rewired the power button, just altered the script that runs when you press it

Shazzner

@Oli regardless, that's awesome :)

Oli

The file you want to break is: /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh

Shazzner

there should be a way to hardware physical stuff though

aces, I'm off the bed but I'll take a look at that

Oli

10:54

That's as close as you'll get with software that I know of. ACPI is pretty low level so unless the disk the script sits on has crashed or the kernel locks up, it'll execute.

Shazzner

thanks!

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

12:12

Cleaning disc space http://bit.ly/guLPbU #diskusage

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 7, 2011 at 12:09 PM

James Gifford

12:23

@AskUbuntuTwitter HEY! That's actually a really good question that you're tweeting (for once. . .)

ssj6akshat

12:52

hello

lazyPower

ughhhh this drive home with a hangover should be fun

Takkat

lol

Marco Ceppi

13:07

@lazyPower Good luck!! Thanks for coming out

@ssj6akshat Hey!

htorque

14:10

flag weight 340 -> seems someone was busy looking at flags ;)

hopefully people will stop adding "me too" answers :-(

Oli

@htorque That's just a fairly common action in other support mechanisms (forums, launchpad, etc). It's a shame because sometimes they do add value to a question if the problem suffered is identical and they add more information that the OP hasn't

Marco Ceppi

@Oli Then I just convert to a comment - or edit it in to the question/answer

Oli

I personally think the comment barrier should be lifted so that people don't post me-to answers but Jeff hates that idea (Jeff hates most of my ideas) so it'll probably never happen.

2

Marco Ceppi

It's not that he hates your idea - we've all pushed for this at one point in time

Comments will always be "second class citizens"

Oli

@MarcoCeppi Sure but it's silly that it's a problem in the fist place. It's the Jurassic Park argument: nature always finds a way. If people want to yell and scream about something they're going to do it where they can and for new users there's only the answer box. That causes work for the rest of us with flagging and moderating.

htorque

14:17

@Oli that was my biggest beef with the system when i started using AU

Oli

Mmmm beef.

htorque

;-)

Oli

I'll give it another few weeks (and a few hundred not-answers) and I'll have another moan at Jeff. I've been riding him pretty hard recently so I'll give him time to forget about how whiney I am :)

htorque

as someone already said: being jeff atwood must be awesome → "hello, inbox!" :D

Oli

@htorque Yeah it must be a unholy cesspit of moaning and groaning.

Huzzah, more than half-way to my Epic badge

Jorge Castro

14:56

it does kind of work out

if some me toos!

and you delete it

the question still gets bumped

@Oli I have an idea for your decrufting

so, unless you're 10k you don't see the tools, so you miss dupes unless you happen to stumble across it.

how about a search that looks for open questions with "possible duplicate of:" as a comment, and generate a list.

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro That would be really easy in the API actually

Jorge Castro

I bet we'd find a bunch of should-really-be-dupes

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

15:14

Lost 3 of my 4 cores http://bit.ly/eARnn8 #1010

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 7, 2011 at 3:09 PM

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro data.stackexchange.com/ubuntu/q/97296

I can drill further and do an inner join to find if the question is already closed - but that's a basic start

Jorge Castro

15:39

sweeeeet.

deostroll

My firefox browser keeps crashing when I try to download videos using sites like keepvid.com. It uses some kind of java applet to enable the download links. Once that applet activates my browser crashes. I am using FF 3.6.16 on lucid. Can anyone give me any guidance here...

Trufa

15:52

can't find the "^" in spanish config keyboard

>.<

someone needs to make a program that does the gives you key combo to a specific character

I would make this man a statue

John

I just got a new answer on one of my questions. The answerer linked to another question which he had taken the answer from. The questions were near exact duplicates and this new answerer was the OP of the dupe.

And he didn't even give me the upvoted answer. He copied a downvoted answer.

Jorge Castro

@John link?

John

My question: askubuntu.com/questions/14615/…

The dupe: askubuntu.com/questions/33890/…

Jorge Castro

dupe vote from me!

Roland Taylor

@JorgeCastro I tried unity in Natty beta 1 on the netbook last night - I love it

John

16:02

Thanks! I already flagged it too.

Jorge Castro

\o/

@John It's annoying when that happens

someone asks an obvious dupe

and someone marks it

and next thing you know people keep answering the dupe, and then upvoting all the answers

Roland Taylor

my only complaints - the menu should not be hidden by default (I was confused a bit at first - cause I forgot) - and I didn't know you could not minimize items by clicking the launcher icon :P - but otherwise - WOW

John

And the OP knew it was a dupe! -sigh-

Jorge Castro

yeah

dupe and flag is the best thing to do there

John

I did. It just didn't feel like enough so I came here. :-)

Oli

16:05

@John Okay I've closed the duplicate

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi how big of a HANG OVER do you have? :)

John

@Oli: Thank you.

Jorge Castro

@John the real obvious ones are awesome

"how do I install flash?"

welcome to ask ubuntu, you must be the first person asking that!

Alvar

@JorgeCastro flash is in the past :)

Oli

Seems a bit odd to dupe-close things that have already come to fruition and have been answered but I guess it doesn't do any harm either.

John

16:07

@JorgeCastro: I came this close to asking that once when I was helping someone with their computer. Turns out they had the 64 bit version of the Ubuntu.

Jorge Castro

64 bit seems running okay for me since 10.2

the fullscreen is still kind of junk though

Marco Ceppi

@Oli It's breadcumbs for new users coming in - and strengths search results

Oli

@MarcoCeppi Fair point

My brain is a little scrambled after 8 hours of battling to the death with Django's various Middleware classes. I've got another hour of it too >_<

Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more. See you on the other side.

And on a side note: 6GB of RAM isn't enough.

Especially when you're used to doling out a third to VirtualBox and up to another third on Firefox... The remaining third goes very fast to leaky applications (Banshee, Gwibber, Gedit, etc).

Jorge Castro

16:29

just hit 13k users!

6

Trufa

17:01

You know that when you press alt+64 it prints "@"

is this possible in notebooks?

Roland Taylor

17:22

0

Q: Gnome 3 : horizontal layout for workspaces

Hello, I just can't find how to get a workspace grid using Gnome 3. It just stays vertical, width of 1 and unlimited height... Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks.

workspaces gnome3

close pl0x

@JorgeCastro HAX!

:P (pretty awesome)

Takkat

@RolandTaylor that number is huge! :) :) :)

Jorge Castro

why is that a close?

he could be using the PPA

or built it from source

Roland Taylor

Because it's not possible - unless he's willing to write an extension

so the "solution" can't come from here

Jorge Castro

ok so the answer is "No, this is currently not possible, unless you write an extension"

Roland Taylor

hmm

true

Jorge Castro

17:25

still on topic

Roland Taylor

I will edit my answer :P

fixed

Jorge Castro

oldest post on the frontpage is only 5 hours

getting busy baby!

Roland Taylor

^^

Takkat

13k leave a motorway :D

Roland Taylor

I'm gonna be doing some writing today on my novel so I won't be answering too many questions :P (found too many errors in some passages D:! - why didn't language too alert me - I have no clue :( )

hmm I'm finding metacity to be pretty comfortable - though much prefer compiz - just gotta love the shortcutseseses

Marco Ceppi

17:35

@JorgeCastro Damn, picking up steam

Takkat

hope answers keep up with this pace :/

(looks like they do)

Roland Taylor

well I found the pace is only going down when the majority of us go to bed - otherwise the pace seems brisk

Takkat

I never go to bed :P

Roland Taylor

lol

Takkat

But my real job and my real family keep me away quite often

need to look after the kids

Joshua Robison

17:49

back to my favorite room :9

Roland Taylor

D:!

humans!

hides

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

18:12

Open application to edit text files from the command line http://bit.ly/hPFuwj #commandline

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 7, 2011 at 6:09 PM

htorque

oh snap, forgot about my bounty. now the wrong answer got it (but only half of it) :D

how many bounties can you start for a question? this is now my second one :D

Roland Taylor

18:30

"the light has been seen, I are enlightenmented"

htorque

black cat from the right - bad luck ahead

Roland Taylor

:D

htorque

2

Roland Taylor

lolol

htorque

that's how i like cats :P

Roland Taylor

18:37

hot dogs + cold cats = nomnomnom

Jorge Castro

18:52

hey @htorque

launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/1:2.32.1-0ubuntu6.2

Roland Taylor

Banshee is confusing me a bit

isn't it supposed to organize Videos as well as Music?

htorque

@JorgeCastro hey! oh, that's a surprise.

Jorge Castro

@htorque a good one though!

@RolandTaylor yeah but it sucks at that, needs to be improved

sadmicrowave

What gives? - I'm not liking the natty narwhal beta release with virtualbox 4.0.4 at all, anyone agree?

Roland Taylor

@JorgeCastro sweet!

(at the gnome-panel move)

htorque

18:58

yeah, it's probably easier to deal with the "unity sux" people :P

sadmicrowave

lol

Roland Taylor

now to fix those pesky "gnome-shell is awesome" people :)

Jorge Castro

...

@htorque I like new things, but really, if it's a fallback why change it?

Roland Taylor

lol @JorgeCastro it was a joke :D

@sadmicrowave Virtualbox killed my experience - when I used it on real hardware I was blown away (good thing I always pack an extra parachute)

sadmicrowave

@RolandTaylor - well good to know it's just virtualbox that makes it suck butt - I'm actually relieved to hear that

htorque

19:01

@JorgeCastro well, it's a fallback if your hardware doesn't support 3d acceleration, not if you dislike unity. :P

Jorge Castro

@htorque boooo. unity-2d exists

Roland Taylor

yeah - I tried it after beta 1 was released (second time since alpha3 I think), and not only did everything crash, but it also froze the entire desktop

htorque

but it is no default fallback yet, so i guess they wanted to make the gnome session look as close to unity as possible - anyways, i too like the change ;)

Roland Taylor

@JorgeCastro I still think it's good to have around, I personally like switching between unity and gnome-panel

Trufa

1

Q: Alt + Number key combination in notebooks

If you do Alt + 64 in a PC you will get "@" and so on for most characters. I could not find out way yet to use this very helpful resource in notebooks. Can this be done? I would like if possible an operating system / computer brand agnostic answer because it will be more helpful to others (an...

keyboard-shortcuts character-encoding special-characters alt

Jorge Castro

19:03

right

I am saying, with any major transition you should have a fallback

shipping unity is change enough

no need to ship unity AND mess with the classic

Trufa

is there a way to do a numlock in ubuntu

Jorge Castro

ship unity but keep classic for people who don't want it

Trufa

??

htorque

or better: i don't care that much, because gnome-panel is so 2010. :P

Roland Taylor

oh I got ya now :P

htorque

19:04

right

Jorge Castro

@htorque right, this isn't for you and me, it's for 1990's linux user

*That* guy

@1990sLinuxUser

Reactionary Linux User. I hate change and am deeply bitter and jealous of anyone who enacts it.

14 tweets, 1.3k followers, following 0 users

Roland Taylor

lol really?

:D

htorque

hahaha, awesome

Roland Taylor

omg technology!

it moves!

Takkat

That's where I came from

htorque

19:08

good old times, huh? :D

Takkat

I so much missed it

the alternative was: 3.11 :'''(

htorque

oh, windows for workgroups :P

►

best game ever :P

Takkat

lol

Roland Taylor

all this... GUI stuff D:

ugh

let's go back to the good old days of DOS -_-

Takkat

When I installed Ubuntu after painful years of XP it felt like coming home

I always wondered why I liked the left-side windows buttons so much

found out that Atari always had them there :)

htorque

19:11

:P

no, it's all cloning mac, ya know!?

Takkat

Never could afford such a thing ;)

but envied people for it (not really I had my TOS)

@RolandTaylor my first PC was pre-DOS: CP/M

Roland Taylor

@Takkat O.o

Natty: Unity launcher buttons should allow to minimize apps, not just launch/restore

What I do miss in Natty (Alpha 3 + daily builds) is the possibility to click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize the app., not only to launch/restore it. This is standard behaviour on other desktops (at least on KDE, XFCE & MS Windows - don't know for Mac), and I think this should be implemented as well on Natty/Unity.

Ayatana Design

Undecided / New

htorque

@Takkat i guess you push the average age in here by a fair amount >:P

Roland Taylor

that above is my #1 problem when using unity - even above hidden menus

htorque

(oops)

Roland Taylor

19:16

not only could not get used to it, but trust me, that will really tick off new users

Takkat

@htorque /o\

Jorge Castro

@RolandTaylor you can just click it affects me to +1 the bug

Roland Taylor

I did :)

I hope it gets changed :O

it was the one thing that left me feeling a little out of place - otherwise my experience was rather comfortable ^^

(so much so that I prefer unity over the gnome-panel experience, and even over gnome-shell (without the overlay open - which is actually sorta okay to me :P)

Octavian Damiean

20:04

hello

ajmitch

hi!

sadmicrowave

@OctavianDamiean !!!!!!!!!!

Octavian Damiean

is hidden

sadmicrowave

nope I see all

Octavian Damiean

@sadmicrowave I really promise that I'm going to give it a go tomorrow, I just set that as a reminder on my phone

sadmicrowave

20:10

lol

Alvar

20:41

Hi @all! :D

Trufa

@Alvar hi!

lazyPower

ugh, never ever give me a camera when i'm hammered...

Alvar

:D

so how was the meeting? :D

Marco Ceppi

@lazyPower Uploading of these pics are required :)

(At least email them to me for my blog post)

lazyPower

i got... six?

:P

Marco Ceppi

20:43

Yeah, I only got 5 - but they're on Flickr

Alvar

:D

lazyPower

and thanks to @saradactyl

i took like one, blinded half the group, and gave up

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi link? :O

Just discovered googles easter egg! :D

lazyPower

@MarcoCeppi which address would you like me to use?

Marco Ceppi

@Alvar flickr.com/photos/marcoceppi/sets/72157626325408379

@lazyPower Any of them is fine - the one in my profile is probably the best

lazyPower

20:46

is the use really part of it?

i think i ask this every time.

Marco Ceppi

@lazyPower yeah, Ubuntu StackExchange

lazyPower

ah, right

Marco Ceppi

Before we were AU

Alvar

flickr.com/photos/marcoceppi/5597572251/in/…

I love it! :D

I am about to upload a pic on myself to the site... so excited :P

Marco Ceppi

@Alvar Yeah! Jin brought Unicorn bucks, it was great

Alvar

20:48

@MarcoCeppi how is the superman guy?

Marco Ceppi

@Alvar He was cool - but he's an SO user

Only @lazyPower was from Ask Ubuntu

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi aha so there were all kinds of people form SO

lazyPower

Mostly SO peeps

Alvar

I thought it was only askubuntu... aha

but cool

Marco Ceppi

Nope, it was a "StackExchange-wide" meetup

lazyPower

20:50

I was representin :D brought my SU,AU,SO rep in to play :D

Marco Ceppi

yeah, a lot of fun

Alvar

I have a friend who went to the SO meetup (or SE meetup) in stockholm, (Sweden)

lazyPower

flickr.com/photos/80579521@N00

also, you've got mail marco

Marco Ceppi

@lazyPower So confirms my phone

lazyPower

@JorgeCastro did you make it to a SE meetup?

Jorge Castro

20:52

no it was far for me

Alvar

some tags would really improve the pics....

@MarcoCeppi are u using a palm phone?

Marco Ceppi

@Alvar yeah, Palm Pre 2

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi I saw the tag in the photos...

@MarcoCeppi ehm, why? aren't they a bit outdated like "you know what" phone

Marco Ceppi

@Alvar The Pre 2 came out in February in the US, WebOS 2 was released in December, since HP acquired Palm they are rebranding and builing some really good products

palm.com

Pre 3 coming out in the summer, with a WebOS tablet

lazyPower

@JorgeCastro i feel ya. I drove 4.5 hours to make the DC meetup :P

Jorge Castro

20:56

wow

lazyPower

minor hike, worth the trip tho. Had a blast and got to be a nuisance in the capitol for a change.

Alvar

@MarcoCeppi sorry, I thought they were terminated... but there u see...

Marco Ceppi

This picture rules

lazyPower

I'm thinking about making a SO t-shirt since I didnt win one @ the schwag give away :P

Marco Ceppi

I wish I can remember what we are staring at

Alvar

20:58

who is who?

lazyPower

jin on the far left witht he long hair

marco in the center

Those are the only two you would be familiar with unless you're a heavy SO user

Alvar

hehehe

Marco Ceppi

Well this was fun, but it's time to go home and sleep for a long time. Wasn't easy getting up this morning

lazyPower

dude, tell me about it

and you left me with wyatt and rom to go drink more

Marco Ceppi

@lazyPower did you go out with them?

lazyPower

21:00

no, i wussed out

:D

Marco Ceppi

Well I had to drive John home, then Sara and I had to go home. We didn't get back until around 2:30

lazyPower

i knew i had to drive back and getting up this morning at 8 was hard enough.

ugh, i bet that was fun.

Before you jet

can you DM me john's twitter?

Marco Ceppi

DM @lazyPower @JohnPBloch

lazyPower

lol

hi5, get some sleep bro

Alvar

It's quite a lot of work to just change your pic lol

George Edison

21:03

Good news... looks like I can get my flash drive replaced.

Alvar

@GeorgeEdison OMG

the 2 gb version?

George Edison

No, it's 32GB.

Alvar

My pic rocks!:D

@GeorgeEdison sry wrong question!

George Edison

What are we talking about...?

Alvar

@GeorgeEdison no Idead really...

well got to go now...

cya!

good night (23:07 CET)

lazyPower

21:11

G'night @Alvar

@GeorgeEdison what happened to your flashdrive?

Ask Ubuntu Twitter

Why do the default Applications in Ubuntu always change? http://bit.ly/frOZVG #defaultprograms

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 7, 2011 at 9:09 PM

Roland Taylor

21:52

hey guys

I'm still unable to send messages with the "Me Menu" - anyone know what causes this?

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