Ask Ubuntu General Room

Trufa

00:10

does anybody know what it is trying to say?

I find it confusing

(it pops when I try to activate Desktop Cube)

lazyPower

Both plugins are providing a compiz feature and they will fight over control of that feature

you have to choose if you want Desktop Wall or Desktop Cube

Trufa

@lazyPower ok, thanks but I don't know the difference beteen them

any advantages or disadvantages

lazyPower

i actually have both of htem disabled on my compiz setup, i dont need them since i use the expo plugin and it fits the bill.

if you want the cube, its safe to disable the desktop wall plugin.

Trufa

@lazyPower good to know, but what will I be sacrifising?

lazyPower

disable it, hit apply, and press <ctrl> left / right

it will no longer page across your desktop

or maybe its ctrl alt

not positive on the key combo

Trufa

00:17

@lazyPower <crtl><alt>

lazyPower

ah good to know :)

Trufa

@lazyPower mmm

I don't think I'm willing to sacrifice that for some nice effects

lazyPower

i myself go for function over form

Trufa

@lazyPower agreed

lazyPower

however i distribute my desktop over 3 monitors, so real-estate really isn't that big of a deal.

Trufa

00:20

@lazyPower 3? thats a lot of screens

lazyPower

flickr.com/photos/80579521@N00/4226207680/in/…

but its well worth it when you have the boss reviewing your code

Trufa

@lazyPower hehe

lazyPower

i <3 my cat. he's awesome.

Trufa

@lazyPower from where do you configure the equivalent of mac exposé

lazyPower

its the expo plugin for compiz

Trufa

00:24

@lazyPower I'm a dog person myself

lazyPower

you may need to install one of the compiz-plugin-extra packages

i'm not positive, i set this up back when 10.10 came out, and i digress that I dont recall what i put into it.

I'm still trying to negotiate with myself i want to jump on the 11.04 bandwagon on release or wait. but thats beyond the scope of this conversation... did i mention i'm severely ADHD?

Trufa

@lazyPower mmm I think not the expose, I mean the one that shows you all the active windos, I think you ment the one that shows you the desktops

lazyPower

oh

should be enabled by default, try <super> w

Trufa

@lazyPower yuhuuuuuu

@lazyPower man, thats slick!!!

lazyPower

^.^ sure is

Trufa

00:28

@lazyPower hadn't miss my mac yet, I'm like a dog with two tails (spanish expression meaning happy) :)

lazyPower

Thats awesome @Trufa. Compiz helps ebb the desktop switch for mac users :)

James Gifford

@Trufa How's things? I'm only here for a few moments, but how's the transition to Ubuntu going? :)

Trufa

@JamesGifford I'm truly and utterly amazed

James Gifford

SWEET. How's the trackpad? get two-finger scrolling working?

Trufa

I was sure it would be a watered down version of my mac

@JamesGifford nope will ask the question soon enough

Does it ever happen to you that is tell critical battery level when you unplug (when the battery is full of course)

?

lazyPower

00:32

@Trufa theres some areas of the desktop experience that aren't as polished as on the mac, like apps natively sharing files amongst themselves autonomously. (see: iLife suite comparison) however it has all the functionality of OSX and more.

@Trufa it will do that the first few times until it has the Battery Discharge stats. its a bug in the application.

mine did that for a while until it discharged one or two times, then it had a basis for calculation.

Trufa

@lazyPower nice to know

@lazyPower and nice to know :)

James Gifford

@Trufa Alright. I'm wondering if you might want to give the instructions here a go: ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10195253&postcount=17

Those worked for me for the longest time.

Trufa

@JamesGifford for sure

I'll try

Thanks!!

James Gifford

@Trufa Try them - it's a somewhat (sadly) standard synaptics driver thingy. :)

And no problem. It's something I struggled with for AGES

Trufa

@JamesGifford I would really like to solve it, Im so used to it (and love it)(and think it's really useful)

James Gifford

00:37

@Trufa That's actually something I like about 11.04 (It's an alpha release) - it's got that "fix" baked in be default. I didn't have to go through that. (Even though it's second nature now. :P).

lazyPower

(and love it) modulus (and think its really useful) = love the usefulness of the feature and really miss having it.

woohoo ! C++ in action on chat.

James Gifford

@Trufa I've gotta go. I'll be around Monday (Not tomorrow, since I'm spending my afternoon switching web hosting companies. Finally yay). If you have any questions that aren't answered by the docs, just ask on AU. :)

Trufa

@JamesGifford thank you very much! have a good weekend

see you around

and good luck with the transfer

@lazyPower lol

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeey

I have two finger scrollong!!!

@JamesGifford thanks! thanks!! thanks!!

:) I'm so happy

@lazyPower one question if you don't mind

mac has one feature I find very useful

lazyPower

fire away

Trufa

when you do alt tab

and "scroll" through the open apps

you can press <q> and close the program

is there anything like that for ubuntu

lazyPower

00:50

I'm not aware of any functionality like that, but that doesnt mean it does not exist.

Trufa

@lazyPower I'll take a look then

thanks anyway

lazyPower

if you find out that such a feature does exist, i'm interested in hearing the solution as well.

Trufa

I will

@lazyPower windows calls the programs, mac: apps

what about ubuntu?

how are they usually called??

lazyPower

Semantics - they are both. however i believe that programs is the more common of the two.

Trufa

@lazyPower good to know, it's true this is just semantics but I would never ever call a mac app a program

I would understand what someone is talking about

but I would shout to myself :)

lazyPower

00:56

Linux users are typically far more forgiving than the mac cult ;) (in most situations... there are extremists in our numbers too)

Trufa

@lazyPower what?? :) I once went to linux @ SE and talked about folders and I was almost eaten alive

lazyPower

because you didnt call it a directory?

bah

Trufa

@lazyPower exactly

lazyPower

again, we have extremists, but as a rule, its a more forgiving crowd... in my experience anyway. I've been actively in it since circa 95/96

Trufa

@lazyPower wow, at that time I did not know how to turn a computer on! :)

I will leave now, I'll be back in 20'

see you

lazyPower

01:00

enjoy :)

Trufa

oh but I must clarify before I leave

Its true that most mac heads are extremists

(not in my case I like to think)

but damn those people are hard

lazyPower

the extremists that flamed you for saying "folder"?

Trufa

@lazyPower no no

the mac users

those are hard asses

lazyPower

ah yeah. I'm not a fan of the cult of mac. I'd like to own one i think sometimes, but i'm perfectly happy owning my sub-2thousand-dollar-pc and running Ubuntu on it.

Trufa

it is better to go to atheist.SE and say that you are amish

that to go to apple.SE and compare something to window

lazyPower

01:03

hahahaha

Trufa

@lazyPower yeah, they are not cheap

lazyPower

@Trufa tell me about it. I can buy a quad core server for the price of a macbook

Trufa

@lazyPower true, I never had a new one myself, specially since I live in uruguay

lazyPower

wow, greets from across the pond :)

Trufa

but they do work VERY VERY good with lower resourses

lazyPower

01:05

so does ubuntu ;)

Trufa

@lazyPower hehe for a moment I though you were from argentina

@lazyPower true true...

lazyPower

nah, Pennsylvania, USA here.

Trufa

@lazyPower yeah I checked your profile, the thing is, we are very close to argentina

separated by only a river

and when you cross it, we have a VERY VERY local expression that is the literal translation of across the pond

well not pond, but that how I would translate it

that was almost a rant

lazyPower

yeah ;) I usually say that to my british contacts

however, you're south of me, seperated by the gulf

so, why not say "greets from across the pond" where its a hair more appropriate referring to the gulf as a pond, compared to the ocean as a pond ;)

Trufa

@lazyPower hehe I've heard it now that you say

@lazyPower hehe

well

I have to leave now

!!

lazyPower

01:09

enjoy @Trufa

Trufa

see you soon

Trufa

01:44

@lazyPower quite good battery life

I might add

it is it's very first use today though

lazyPower

01:58

Thats good :)

I never have had much luck with laptop batterys, i never invest in a good battery either.... i generally get 3 hours out of one. I'd like to see the 8 hour range that mac boasts.

or get a OLPC where i can wind it up

Trufa

@lazyPower did you know that my country was the first to implement this for every children of the public system

primary school

lazyPower

nice, and no i was not aware of that

Trufa

it is fully disployed now

@lazyPower I mean, we could do that because we are a very small country

but anyway, I think it is a great bet for thee future of the country

lazyPower

I'm pleased to see/hear that its been deployed. amazing project that will help tomorrow be a bit brighter for our children. they will already have the skills required to utilize tech, and they are learning in a new way :)

the project that precursed OLPC was using donated cellular phones and apps on them. I saw it was being piloted in the middle east.

Trufa

02:13

one.laptop.org/map/uruguay

@lazyPower I fully agree!

Trufa

02:24

cant find my damn square bracks :(

lazyPower

should be next to the p if you're using a qwerty keyboard

Trufa

@lazyPower yeah but I have spanish conig

*config

everything seems to be the same

but no these

lazyPower

cant help ya there, spaniard keyboards would confuse me ;)

Trufa

@lazyPower ok they were next to the p, but with AltGr

lazyPower

haha

hurray for keyboard modifiers

Kaustubh P

04:58

good morning! @lazyPower

karthick87

06:12

@StefanoPalazzo there?

Greg

10:07

Clocks went forward this morning.

Ubuntu didn't.

Alaukik