Ask Ubuntu General Room

iSeth

00:09

Wow, this is interesting

askubuntu.com/questions/227301/…

Jorge Castro

00:42

that's a dupe

I've seen an awesome question about just that

mistrfu

00:53

Good evening/morning/day everyone.

I have a quick one, what can one do about stale package in repos?

George Edison

01:25

o/

jrg

this is pathetic. i can't seem to get more than 1K ms ping time to 8.8.8.8

normally it's about 1-200.

record is 7782ms

weird. now i'm down to 40ms.

George Edison

How is the blog doing?

jrg

it's going alright

iSeth

hey @GeorgeEdison,

jrg

I need to write a review about the nexus 7 with Ubuntu thing, roland has some bug reports/feature requests, etc.

George Edison

01:38

I have a huuuuuuge backlog of bugs to fix I see.

My job finally started last week.

jrg

is everything ok on your end? Your G+ post was rather... mysterious.

George Edison

Yeah. Thanks for asking though.

Just a tough week.

iSeth

what to to do with this???

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Q: Installed ubuntu over windows vista..cant reinstall windows

I recently used the "compress hard drive" option within windows. i got the horid "boot mngr is compressed" after the restart. i tried booting my system back to windows vista but it doesnt read the cd that came with my computer. i tried going into system recovery and going back to a previous date ...

jrg

you're welcome! good to hear that you're ok, and I understand.

@iSeth i'm not sure

George Edison

Wow, there are a lot of issues on BitBucket.

I'm going to have to prioritize them.

jrg

01:43

i left that for you, since some of them are chicken-and-egg issues.

George Edison

@jrg What was the banner you were trying to add?

jrg

@GeorgeEdison the internet defense league cat signal.

George Edison

Ah.

But the commit messages were... weird...

iSeth

@jrg just gave it a down vote for now

jrg

was originally a SOPA/PIPA thing, they expanded their purview from that single bill to "we are the defenders of the internet! FIGHT US LIKE A MAN!"

@GeorgeEdison hey, i'm not exactly a wonderful guy when it comes to commit messages.

George Edison

01:45

> "pushing pushing pushing"

4

jrg

and i was having issues getting it to run locally, otherwise i would have just squashed them and pushed the fixed one.

and that is actually a quote from white christmas, which i watched the night before.

George Edison

:P

mistrfu

So...can a mere mortal somehow update or trigger update of ubuntu-repos?

jrg

@mistrfu for a specific package?

mistrfu

yep

George Edison

01:52

So G+ launched communities?

mistrfu

or two actually. Onde dependent on the other

@jrg I am talking about openslide0 and lib-vips

jrg

@mistrfu which ones? If they've got security stuff you might be able to get it pushed through, otherwise you're probably out of luck.

mistrfu

Even for R release?

Jorge Castro

what's the version in debian for the package?

mistrfu

@Jorge: I haven't checked yet, din't come to mind...will be right back :)

Jorge Castro

01:56

yep, if it's newer in debian it's just a matter of syncing it

mistrfu

no luck there, they have the same version 7.28

I need 7.31 :(

I have been compiling it for myself on my pc. But now I have to deploy the code to a remote machine and I am not sure how to "package it" or something, to get it to work there.

I have just conf/make/mak inst both packages to a dir in my home folder, now if program B uses program A as a library. Can I just copy program As openslide.so into program Bs ./lib/ folder?

Jorge Castro

help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall will make a package out of it for your other box

which package is it?

mistrfu

package A is libopenslide, package B is libvips tools

libvips-tools

@JorgeCastro that link is givving 500

Jorge Castro

linuxjournal.com/content/…

seems close enough

jrg

i hate my network. :(

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mistrfu

02:08

@JorgeCastro Interesting, is there a way to install package locally? Without sudo rights

jrg

@mistrfu not really, no.

Jorge Castro

no

most packages need sudo unless you're installing from source

mistrfu

@jrg So I am back to start line. I guess I will have to compile on my dev box and figure out a way how to run it there. I can get the compiled folders to that machine I jsut don't know how to put it together

Jorge Castro

from looking at debian and ubuntu sources you need to build libvips-tools from source

mistrfu

Do you think throwing the openslide.so files into libvips/lib/ will work?

Jorge Castro

02:10

doubtful

mistrfu

So it stores hardcoded links to libs?

Jorge Castro

usually copying things manually doesn't work

I mean it could

but there's no guarantee

you don't have sudo access to the machine you want to get it working on?

mistrfu

I know right, weird....it's this worker que thing. Iron worker. I create a worker and the ntrigger it when I want it to do something for me.

Without sudo

I can install deb packages through their sort of a buildout script, but it doesn't resolve requirements so what good does it do.

George Edison

02:54

@jrg: I can't pull on the 2buntu server.

It seems like the Git config has been changed.

Flabricorn

03:32

Oh no!

2

George Edison

04:08

We have a favicon now.

mateo_salta

hi @GeorgeEdison , I managed to make branches of nitroshare, to try and mess with things. looks like you have been quite busy, how's the job?

George Edison

It's been great, thanks!

As you can imagine, things get really busy at a financial institution this time of year.

mateo_salta

yep, my part-time goes to holiday hours next week

Huei

yo

mateo_salta

hi

Huei

04:20

hi

mateo_salta

#_#
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Huei

any new and good try software ?

mateo_salta

launchpad.net/nitroshare I'm partial to this right now ( @GeorgeEdison made it )

RolandiXor - The Ice Man

05:10

I wonder how many people are aware that my profile picture is a blood-thirsty monster....

Flabricorn

Stupid autodim screen.

iSeth

@RolandiXor-TheIceMan I thought it was a sea bird.

George Edison

@RolandiXor-TheIceMan Hi!

Can I please be made a moderator of the 2buntu community? :)

iSeth

@GeorgeEdison ya wanna be mod of too AU?

George Edison

No, not Ask Ubuntu.

2buntu. Our blog.

MiJyn

05:16

@iSeth I think he already is lol

George Edison

I'm not a mod on Ask Ubuntu.

iSeth

@GeorgeEdison oops sorry, I meant as well

George Edison

I was at one point.

iSeth

since Roland won't run....

George Edison

But I don't think I have the time to commit to being a mod.

iSeth

05:17

@GeorgeEdison OK. =)

MiJyn

just wondering, how many mods are there on askubuntu?

iSeth

BTW @GeorgeEdison are you aware of the bug in Stack Applet?

George Edison

Bug?

@MiJyn 6.

iSeth

@MiJyn askubuntu.com/about scroll to the bottom

@GeorgeEdison yeah, stack API urls changed

MiJyn

oh ok thanks

iSeth

05:19

so we get 'url not found' error

George Edison

No API URLs have changed in the last year that I know of.

MiJyn

wait... Jorge Castro is NOT a mod? lol

mateo_salta

Jorge Castro is Super Bot.

In disguise, you wouldn't recognize him without the glasses.

iSeth

@GeorgeEdison askubuntu.com/a/38052/44179 read the first comment

doesn't work for me either

George Edison

What version are you using?

iSeth

05:23

the one in software center... I'm in windows right now

George Edison

Oh. The one in the Software Center is old and outdated.

iSeth

@GeorgeEdison oh, OK, where can I get the newer one?

on your site?

George Edison

In my PPA.

I actually have a Windows installer though if you are interested.

files.quickmediasolutions.com/stackapplet/…

^--- 32-bit Windows installer.

iSeth

thanks

I think PPA's are the future... anyway night everybody

George Edison

Night.

@RolandiXor-TheIceMan: I see what you mean about spam in the review queue.

Also, do you still have access to the 2buntu Google Analytics page?

Zewz

05:32

I've got a quick question which I can't seem to find through searching the internet.
My right mouse-button on my laptop does not seem to work all of a sudden, and I'm searching for a command in the terminal to see if it gets registered at all, do i make myself somewhat clear?

Flabricorn

@iSeth Actually, thank you for posting that broken URL link to the StackApplet, I found the CPU meter application. I can tone down the processor to 1Ghz just to cool that fan. Don't lose much preformance.

George Edison

05:43

Le sigh.

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Q: ubun2.com is blatantly ripping off Ask Ubuntu content

ubunt2.com is copying our content without proper attribution. Example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29733/no-bios-no-video-after-ubuntu-updates http://www.ubun2.com/question/893/no_bios_no_video_after_updates I don't see backlinks anywhere on the page nor an indication that the content is ...

discussion attribution

mateo_salta

05:59

cross post? It definitely looks exactly like a stack exchange site...

George Edison

What does?

mateo_salta

the AU clone, in your question

Ask Ubuntu Meta

0

Q: ubun2.com is blatantly ripping off Ask Ubuntu content

ubunt2.com is copying our content without proper attribution. Example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29733/no-bios-no-video-after-ubuntu-updates http://www.ubun2.com/question/893/no_bios_no_video_after_updates I don't see backlinks anywhere on the page nor an indication that the content is ...

discussion attribution

mateo_salta

It looks like the answers and everything are different, might have been the user that went posting it every where

George Edison

Really?

Hmmm.... I hadn't thought of that.

mateo_salta

06:12

looks like they don't close mint q's hmmm, ubun2.com/question/1020/…

It all looks too similar, maybe something stackexchange might want to look into.

George Edison

Night all.

mateo_salta

later

Mochan

06:36

I need @jokerdino

THE SLEIGH TOOK THEM OUT OF THE ROOM! HOLY JIZZLE WHIZZLES!(?)

jokerdino

08:01

@Mochan you called?

Takkat

08:17

o/ Hi all

jokerdino

o/

Takkat

Back in The Internet Zone?

jokerdino

yeah :D

Takkat

<-- couldnt live without...

jokerdino

yeah. good thing i got the internet back on the same day :D

Takkat

08:19

My weekend was all trial and error.

(Packaging maze)

jokerdino

oh lol

so, done packaging?

Takkat

Now I managed to install my app to /opt.

jokerdino

awesome

you should try to get it into debian.

Takkat

Lintian spits out 1000 errors because you're not supposed to install there.

jokerdino

which would require installing to /usr/share

@Takkat yep that :P

your package would be considered low quality if not installed in /usr/share

Takkat

08:21

@jokerdino Yeah, now that I know how to do it it's a piece of cake.

jokerdino

(:

Takkat

@jokerdino there was this USC thing asking for packages in /opt.

jokerdino

yeah but you are packaging it for debian right?

i would suggest getting it into debian :D

Takkat

<-- forgets about USC and /opt

Maybe I should start with PyPi?

jokerdino

O_o

i don't know what that is ;p

is it gtk for py3?

Takkat

08:23

That's the Python "repository".

jokerdino

oh

i thought it was env-py

Takkat

@jokerdino its Gtk3 for py2 or py3

both will run - I made it install for Python2

jokerdino

ah

i am not very familiar with this gtk and python thing you see

Takkat

Python2 because 12.04 needs too many dependencies for Python3

Gtk2 --> Gtk3 was the worst bit.

jokerdino

hm, right

Takkat

08:25

Python2 --> Python3 was easy because I took care to not use deprecating things.

jokerdino

smart move

Takkat

Surprisingly now that all was in Python3 I found that it runs almost without change on Python2 as well (only 6 lines of code for incompatible calls).

jokerdino

yeah, it is backwards compatible.

Takkat

But packaging was a real pain.

Soooooooo many incomprehensible errors.

jokerdino

easy to backport but difficult to port forward from py2 to py3

Takkat

08:27

Depends on the py2 code.

jokerdino

hm true too

smartboyhw

Hi @jokerdino

jokerdino

hi

Evandro Silva

morning o/

jokerdino

o/

Takkat

08:31

o/ o/

o_.

Evandro Silva

:)

@jokerdino ltns

jokerdino

:)

Evandro Silva

just lost my 70 consecutive days :(

jokerdino

was a bit busy :)

@EvandroSilva :(

Evandro Silva

@jokerdino work? fun?

jokerdino

08:35

fun

Evandro Silva

yay ;)

jokerdino

:D

working on a project

Evandro Silva

python?

jokerdino

yes

unity configuration tool

github.com/jokerdino/mechanig

Evandro Silva

cool :D

Takkat

08:37

@EvandroSilva oh - someone else cares about consecutive days?

jokerdino

Takkat has about 1000 days :P

Takkat

oah no - 789 only.

Evandro Silva

@Takkat ;)

jokerdino

only

Takkat

Still way to go for 1000

anything could happen. Like broken router, access, else...

Evandro Silva

08:39

travel this weekend

Takkat

Travel is no excuse. I even made it from abroad.

Only once I had an issue when the WiFi was broken in one of the mountain hotels we stayed.

Evandro Silva

@___@

I will make a script to log me in everyday and then do some random things

Takkat

That's cheating. Log in in person and do random things ... :P

Evandro Silva

:)

jokerdino

:P

Evandro Silva

08:45

@jokerdino wish I was better at python so I could help you in that project ><

I suck at most interpreted languages

Takkat

<-- likes interpreted languages because they tell you immediately what you did wrong.

Well, they mostly tell you not what but only that.

Syntax error

Evandro Silva

I just like more rules

Takkat

My experiments with C some decades ago always ended up with rebooting 20x per hour.

But I loved it because I didn't have to learn so many commands.

Evandro Silva

lol :)

C is from hell

I like ruby for interpreted

Takkat

C is from heaven. C coders are influenced by somewhere else.

jokerdino

08:49

@EvandroSilva no problem :)

i don't know python myself

Takkat

Those days when I ~~learned~~ tried to learn C people were still coding in Assembler (this is from hell).

Evandro Silva

wow, I don't even know what's that :)

Takkat

That's like machine code instructions.

Evandro Silva

I'm kidding ;)

Takkat

Incomprehensible to man.

Evandro Silva

08:54

I still prefer 0100011101011011000101011110

Takkat

Is Pascal dead?

Evandro Silva

I think so

Takkat

Fortran isnt

even though it should.

jokerdino

lol

Fortran is still around

they still teach it for the civil engg.

Takkat

BASIC is dead. Wait - is there still Visual Basic?

Evandro Silva

08:55

Visual Basic .NET

jokerdino

Basic is still around. At least as Gambas.

Takkat

.NET is a hidden folder in my brain.

jokerdino

wish it was :P

Evandro Silva

:)

I think I'm getting too much to the dark side

Takkat

We can only see light from the dark side.

Evandro Silva

08:58

this is why I like linux / ubuntu

cause I'm stuck with this not so good windows everyday

mono still needs to evolve a little more

Takkat

Windows == Computers_at_work

Everytime I see a Windows boot splash I am immediately reminded of my office at work.

jokerdino

okay. lunch time folks

FEichinger

Boo.

Takkat

breakfast time here

Evandro Silva

@Takkat same here

Takkat

09:06

Good that my office keyboard is breadcrumb-resistant.

Evandro Silva

here they give us nothing to eat :(

neither let us eat anywhere inside

Takkat

They don't let us here either but what if staff starved to death...

They dont even give us lunch breaks. So there is no choice, really.

Evandro Silva

wow #__#

Takkat

._o

Evandro Silva

here we have to eat before 7:00 and then only between 12:30 - 13:30 and then wait until 17:00

Takkat

09:12

<-- cant eat before 10 am

only espresso until 10

Evandro Silva

wish I were a freelancer :(

Takkat

Freelancer == Free_of_money

Evandro Silva

yeah :/

Takkat

No income, no tax. \o/

Evandro Silva

you people don't even know what are taxes

come here to Brazil and you will know

lol

Takkat

09:23

Oh noes - today it's an all year's work item record here :"(

smartboyhw

here comes @fossfreedom!

FEichinger

It's a wild @fossfreedom!

fossfreedom

@smartboyhw good morning!

smartboyhw

@fossfreedom Good afternoon! (5:27 PM here)

fossfreedom

you must be in the far east somewhere - china/hong kong/singapore?

jokerdino

09:29

Hong Kong he is

smartboyhw

@fossfreedom Yes Hong Kong

fossfreedom

@jokerdino good guess - what are you doing here - thought you were on your christmas break?

jokerdino

I am sitting in my house spending time

nothing better to do :P

smartboyhw

@jokerdino As what we say: "HEA"

jokerdino

what's that?

fossfreedom

09:32

@jokerdino - question - what has happened to 2buntu RSS feed?

jokerdino

there is no RSS feed since the django thingie

have to ask George

smartboyhw

@jokerdino The word in Hong Kong-ish Cantonese for "doing nothing at all at home"

fossfreedom

@jokerdino :(

jokerdino

@smartboyhw oh right. that would be the word then

smartboyhw

Hmm strange that ubun2.com actually tried to fake themselves as Ubuntu Forums.......

@fossfreedom where is that question you asked?

FEichinger

09:34

ubun2.com/question/1362/how_ask_question_ubuntu_ask_question

2

lol

jokerdino

@FEichinger LOL

smartboyhw

:!

LOL

FEichinger

That kinda made my day.

fossfreedom

@smartboyhw I've asked Stack Exchange themselves - not alot us lowly community mods can do.

smartboyhw

@fossfreedom Oh?

fossfreedom

09:36

probably SE need to get the lawyers involved

jokerdino

probably report on meta.SO

smartboyhw

/me wants his starred message off the star board in the right-hand side

jokerdino

306

Q: Stack Overflow clones

Listed here are clones of the Stack Exchange sites model.

discussion stackexchange clone

not that one perhaps.

smartboyhw

Now I want that off the star board too:P

uh who kept starring!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

jokerdino

happy? :)

smartboyhw

09:43

@jokerdino :)

Zignd

@jokerdino, the askbot is the one that most look like StackExchange, it's practically equal!!!

jokerdino

hah

the one i linked to is not where you should report. i can't find the link

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Q: Report sites that use SE content without following attribution rules here

There are a number of license-violating clones of Stack Exchange sites popping up that use SE's cc-wiki data without following our Creative Commons attribution terms. Those terms are linked at the bottom of every SE webpage, and are also included as a .txt file in every data dump we produce. The...

support attribution copycat-sites screen-scraping

fossfreedom

@jokerdino add an answer reporting that site if you havent already.

jokerdino

09:59

haven't yet. anyone else adding one?

i would suggest someone else do it. sorta got caught on something else right now

FEichinger

Not logged in to meta.SE right now, sorry.

FEichinger

10:26

bbl

smartboyhw

@fossfreedom @jokerdino you want me to?

fossfreedom

yes please.

smartboyhw

@fossfreedom added. Actually do you realize this website also violates the rules by calling themselves "Ubuntu Forums"?

fossfreedom

they are going for search terms to drive traffic to their site. That's how they are trying to make money.

smartboyhw

@fossfreedom I shall report it to the Forums ops for that.

And did

Peachy

10:37

@RolandiXor-TheIceMan I'm here

smartboyhw

Hey @Peachy haven't seen you for a while

Peachy

@smartboyhw o/

fossfreedom

ubun2.com/question/1363/…

lets see how long that lasts on the site!

smartboyhw

10:53

@fossfreedom ;D

Curious Apprentice

What is the problem if some1 wishes to earn money for what they provide.

jokerdino

they don't follow the license

Curious Apprentice

98% of the peoples does not read (less care about) what the licenses policies are.

If you start killing sites for license then all torrent sites will be gon.

e

jokerdino

so, let them go

Takkat

I always thought god created apple free for all human beings.

smartboyhw

10:58

@Takkat You mean the real Apple?:P

Curious Apprentice

Nah ! if you are a developer and its ur content got copied then it's a thing to worry. If not then relax

Takkat

green or red - I prefer red apples

smartboyhw

@CuriousApprentice the problem is that they were trying to boost their website usage in a no-good way.

Curious Apprentice

Yea ! thats a problem.

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