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Flabricorn

00:47

@RolandTaylor Hello

jrg

@Flabricorn sup?

jrg

01:14

anyone know if a underage person can own a LLC?

Journeyman Geek

@jrg: I doubt so

depends on the country so

jrg

@JourneymanGeek I know I can do a sole proprietorship, just want to do something a little more substantial and flexible.

George Edison

This looks interesting.

jrg

if it didn't cost money, i'd install it and let you know how useful it is.

Roland Taylor

@Flabricorn hey

jrg

01:21

appears the answer is "yes and no" - answers.onstartups.com/questions/39916/…

Journeyman Geek

@jrg: quite honestly, I'd probably talk to the agency you do the filing with to confirm

jrg

@JourneymanGeek i will, definitely.

I just want to get a feel for how likely it is for me to be able to do this, before I start other wheels in motion.

Journeyman Geek

the issue here is the contracts you sign may not be legally binding

jrg

since while I can stop them, I'd rather not if I don't have to.

Journeyman Geek

could you do it under a parent's name?

jrg

01:24

i'd rather not do it under dads company, he doesn't have time to do the required stuff.

I know I can do a sole proprietorship, and then for the purposes of the law I become 18. I'd rather do an LLC though, since it makes hiring my buddies so much easier.

George Edison

   --- Operating Point ---

V(n001):    9             voltage
I(Led):     7.57194e+012  device_current
I(R2):      0.0045        device_current
I(R1):      0.009         device_current
I(Battery): -7.57194e+012 device_current

I think my LED is going to get fried.

I'm passing 7,571,940,000,000 Amps through it :P

jokerdino

I see a Canadian blackout coming.

George Edison

...and I did it all with a 9V battery:

Roland Taylor

<--- thinks GE is gone nuts :>

George Edison

How come?

jokerdino

01:39

He means the general election ofcourse.

George Edison

Oooooh. I thought GE == "George Edison".

jrg

> (3) The directors shall be natural persons of at least eighteen years of age and shall have such qualifications, if any, as are stated in the articles or the regulations.

ahh shucks.

Wonder if I could file in Delaware or something...

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison it does :D

jrg

Except there is need to make more than $300/year in order to pay the taxes... blech.

Shagun

03:12

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Q: Characters missing in console

I am working on implementation of an SIC-XE assembler with my friends. Those guys are using windows and codeblocks while I am using ubuntu 12.04 and codeblocks(both using version (10.05). This is a piece of code used to print values from an input file. It is working fine in windows but when I use...

any idea ?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

@jrg got a new gravatar...

Flabricorn

@jrg You should offer your services as an independent contractor and since you're 16, as long as you pick the right customer they shouldn't rat you out.

@AbrahamVanHelpsing Yes, he did.

Have you guys taken a look at the Honeynet Project?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

there's a neat honeyusb project somewhere, but i've been busy with work and the commute

Flabricorn

map.honeynet.org

Kind of crazy.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

what's that blob off the coast of china?

Flabricorn

03:26

Which one, Japan or South Korea?

AbrahamVanHelpsing

neither. the malware probe blob

Flabricorn

Oh the conglomeration of red dots.

Dunno, maybe the island is so small the dots cover the land illustration.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

i swear nato...those ip addresses originated from a ship in international waters...

Flabricorn

Oh, you know what, you're probably right.

AbrahamVanHelpsing

how is no phishing malware probe originating from africa???

system.is.obviously.flawed.

okay. up at 0 dark thirty. time for sleep

Flabricorn

03:31

Same.

Actually.

Work.

Goodnight.

JohnMerlino

hey all, I installed ubuntu server and then decided to install the gnome desktop on top of it so I ran a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop

jokerdino

go on

JohnMerlino

but now everytime i log in, it automaticlaly logs me to the desktop not the terminal

i know that i can launch the terminal from within the desktop

jokerdino

you get to lightdm?

JohnMerlino

but I like how before it would just take me to the command prompt

right

@jokerdino thats where its taking me now

jokerdino

03:43

but you want to boot into tty instead?

JohnMerlino

yes

jokerdino

ok wish i know the answer offhand

JohnMerlino

its not the end of world, but I liked how if i wanted to go to desktop then I would just run a simple command

and then when I logged out of desktop, it returned me back to tty

jokerdino

@john ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1911143

JohnMerlino

thanks

By the way, has anyone read the book "A practical guide to linx commands, editors, and shell programming". I skimmed through it and it appeared more friendly than the" linux in a nutshell" book, which seemed to just be a list of commands

jokerdino

03:50

is it free?

JohnMerlino

no neither are

jokerdino

:|

mulllhausen

04:23

well i had no luck searching in askubuntu unfortunately

jokerdino

oh

ok, what exactly is the problem?

mulllhausen

my problem may be more with ssl than with postfix, i'm not sure...

jokerdino

i myself know very little about ssl and postfix :(

mulllhausen

i'm just trying to figure out if postfix is recognising my certificate

jokerdino

help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix

that may or may not be useful

mulllhausen

04:26

i'll give it try then. thanks again :)

MK_Dev

04:45

hey guys/gals

jokerdino

hey

MK_Dev

I'm trying to install (dual boot with W7) ubuntu 12.04 on my Samsung Series 7 laptop, but the installer can't see my windows install

jokerdino

that is bad

MK_Dev

shows /dev/sda (main drive) as free space

tried dmraid tricks to no avail

yea, it's not good :-)

jokerdino

are you on live media?

MK_Dev

04:46

yes, I'm using live CD. Same happens with 12.10, btw

jokerdino

might want to check sudo fdisk -l

MK_Dev

weirdly enough, disk utility does see windows partition

fdisk -l shows the right partitions

but the installer can't see them

jokerdino

stupid installer :|

MK_Dev

is there a more advanced installer I can use?

jokerdino

there is alternate installer for 12.04

releases.ubuntu.com/12.04

look for alternate

it's a text mode installer

MK_Dev

04:49

is there a key I need to press during boot?

Flabricorn

That sounds fun.

jokerdino

@MK_Dev it is a different ISO altogether

for 12.10, live and alternate are combined though

MK_Dev

ah, I'll try 12.10

have that CD too

jokerdino

good luck

MK_Dev

thanks!

for 12.10, though, do I need to press anything for Alternate install?

jokerdino

04:52

i am not sure actually

i would press f6 when the small man shows up

titusjaka

@MK_Dev as i can remember, you have to press [ESC] while booting

MK_Dev

I'll try it out

jokerdino

good thing we have users covering for my noobness :)

Flabricorn

Don't be ridiculous from a user of my stature you're a pro.

titusjaka

@jokerdino it seems you don't have a noobness :) you seem to be a professional

jokerdino

04:56

despite what it seems, i know very little :(

Flabricorn

But you learn quite a bit

see

jokerdino

yeah

Flabricorn

from what you just said, you now know that.

As do I.

jokerdino

isn't it pretty late for you BTW?

Flabricorn

Quite.

MK_Dev

04:57

someone's talking about noobs? :-)

titusjaka

@MK_Dev we are

Flabricorn

@MK_Dev You don't count. :)

@jokerdino Dinner guests, working late. Just about finished.

jokerdino

@Flabricorn I see.

I guess you won't wake up all too early tomorrow.

MK_Dev

same stuff with 12.10. This machine came with Windows 8, I wonder whether that had anything to do with it

jokerdino

Win 8 yes

There was some problem with win 8 not getting detected.

titusjaka

05:00

@MK_Dev stop. UEFI?

MK_Dev

thing is, I installed Win 7 (having completely reformatted the drive)

yes, but running in the "other" mode (so Win7 can boot)

Flabricorn

@jokerdino No, I'll be up at the usual time... But tomorrow shall be a more productive day, no spontaneous guests... and maybe some melatonin for sleeping because I'm running off the second shot of coffee.

jokerdino

good luck. :)

Flabricorn

Thank you. What part of the world do you live in?

jokerdino

@MK_Dev I recall at least one other question where installer not recognising windows 8 partition

@Flabricorn GMT+8, Singapore.

Literally the other half of your world.

Amith KK

05:03

appears

Flabricorn

@jokerdino Incredible.

Alright, I'm off to sleep, goodnight everyone!

MK_Dev

currently set to CSM OS in the bios. Windows 7 eventually installed fine, after messing with Secure Boot (off), Fast boot (off) and OS Mode

jokerdino

@Flabricorn good night

MK_Dev

@Flabricorn good night. Thanks for your help

titusjaka

@MK_Dev It seems to be a problem with secure sector... But I'm not the expert

Flabricorn

05:04

My help? Think it was all Joker, but awright. I can't remember anyway right now. :)

Amith KK

Hey all

jokerdino

I'm not the expert either. Anyway, biab for lunch.

titusjaka

@AmithKK Morning)

Amith KK

@Flabricorn Good Night

Hello @titusjaka

titusjaka

@MK_Dev send here the output of fdisk -l command

MK_Dev

05:08

one sec, live cd is still loading

titusjaka

@MK_Dev ok :)

MK_Dev

pastebin.com/LdzmWTUD

I hope that will make sense :-)

I have to add that when I was installing Windows 7, I allocated enough free space for Ubuntu (as evident from the fdisk result)

titusjaka

@MK_Dev wait a minute :) work doesn't let to forget about it

MK_Dev

@titusjaka haha, I hear you

Amith KK

Power Down

BBL

MK_Dev

05:22

later

titusjaka

@MK_Dev ok

as I understand, the reason in that sentance The util fdisk doesn't support GPT

so, you should rebuild your partitions for GUID

GUID Partition Table

In computer hardware, GUID Partition Table (GPT) is a standard for the layout of the partition table on a physical hard disk. Although it forms a part of the Extensible Firmware Interface (EFI) standard (Intel's proposed replacement for the PC BIOS), it is also used on some BIOS systems because of the limitations of MBR partition tables, which uses 32 bits for storing logical block addresses and size information. For disks with 512-byte sectors, the MBR partition table entries allow up to a maximum of 2.20 TB (2.20 × 1012 bytes) or 2 TiB−512 bytes (2,199,023,255,040 bytes or 4,294,967,295 (...

you could do it with gdisk

MK_Dev

hmm, I think you're right. GParted also freaks out

titusjaka

maybe gparted can do so, but I'm not sure

MK_Dev

I'll dig some more

thanks a lot for your help!

titusjaka

@MK_Dev As I found on a Russian forum the reason of this issue is that Win7/8 build bad partitons. And you can try to solve it with gdisk

I never used it, but guys write that it's easy

good luck :)

MK_Dev

05:29

can you send me the link? I understand Russian :-)

titusjaka

@MK_Dev here you are forum.ubuntu.ru/index.php?topic=136982.0

MK_Dev

@titusjaka спасибо!

titusjaka

@MK_Dev ух ты)

@MK_Dev I hope you will solve your problem! Good luck!

and goodbye, my working morning goes out

MK_Dev

again, thanks for your help

all the best

mulllhausen

are you still around @jokerdino?

jokerdino

05:44

Yes. just came back.

mulllhausen

cool.

i've gone through most of the link you posted

just a quick question (hopefully quick)

jokerdino

I think I only posted one.

I have time.

mulllhausen

cool thanks

how would i pass a certificate password to postfix when starting it up?

jokerdino

all i can do is search it on Google. ~_~

postfix.org/TLS_README.html

MK_Dev

sweet! running "fdisk --zap /dev/sda" fixed it! There were leftovers of GPT table after replacing Windows 8 with Windows 7

thanks all!

jokerdino

05:55

Yay

MK_Dev

installation started. at last!

jokerdino

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Q: ubuntu 12.10 installer doesn't see windows 8 partitions

I want to install ubuntu 12.10 after windows 8 but ubuntu I installer doesn't even see windows partitions. What should I do? Disk tool in ubuntu correctly recognizes partions.

windows-8

once done, please answer that question.

MK_Dev

This is what I used: ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10022223&postcount=34

jokerdino

nice

mulllhausen

i'll have a look thanks

George Edison

07:03

I have bountied this.

Let's hope someone can answer it.

titusjaka

@MK_Dev glad to hear it :)

Stefano Palazzo

07:55

morning guys

Amith KK

08:34

►

Hwahahahahah

appears

@StefanoPalazzo Good Morning

Takkat

o/ all

Amith KK

@Takkat Hello

Takkat

Hi @AmithKK :)

njallam

Hello

Takkat

Hi @njallam

Amith KK

08:46

@njallam Hello

njallam

I'm so disappointed with 12.10 :(

Takkat

Why, what is not working?

njallam

It seems much slower than 12.04

Really laggy

Amith KK

@njallam Time to shell out 100's of dollars for an upgrade

Stefano Palazzo

just a quick reminder: the ask ubuntu session at UDS was moved to 11:00 local time, 10:00 UTC (that's in an hour). The IRC channel is #ubuntu-uds-b4-m9

ImsPeachy

08:48

who changed my display name?

Stefano Palazzo

no idea where the live video stream will be

Takkat

@njallam Many people say that. i cant judge because i have it only in a VM. There indeed its playing Catch the Snail with me

Amith KK

or come to the XFCE since we have cake

njallam

@AmithKK Trust me, it's not my specs

@Takkat Well, I am also running it VM ATM

Takkat

I opened (with shaking brave heart) ccsm to disable all fancy special effects. Its much better then.

njallam

08:52

I suppose I still need to test it on a real system

Also I suppose VirtualBox isn't able to make full use of my GPU.

Takkat

<-- does not dare to do install on bare metal

The only machine I would do that is the machine my kids play their games. Imagine what happens when i break these...

Are the Humble Bundle games available in 12.10 btw?

<-- still waiting for Vessel

@njallam that's my impression too (here its Nvidia).

njallam

@Takkat NVIDIA here too

However the GTX550Ti seems to hate Ubuntu.

Takkat

Nvidia has too many issues recently :"(

But still, we do have a lot of question from people breaking their OS with FGLRX...

Amith KK

@Takkat yeah

Takkat

Intel for the win - but you cant have these on a separate card, can you?

@AmithKK: great! One reasen less to not upgrade ;)

njallam

08:58

How many of you have applied for Steam for Linux Beta?

They are looking mainly for Linux Veterans

Amith KK

@Takkat I know this is wrong to ask but.. do you have Bit.trip runner?

@njallam I could

njallam

valvesoftware.com/linuxsurvey.php

Amith KK

I saw that

njallam

@AmithKK I love that game :) - So frustrating though

Amith KK

I can't buy it now :(

But I need it :P

To show off

Takkat

09:00

@AmithKK why should that be wrong to ask? No I haven't installed it. Kids said they dont like it...

njallam

Did you not get it in Humble Bundle?

Amith KK

@Takkat Awesome.. can you give it to me? :P

@njallam Yeah... I can't use my moneys now :P

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Cant finish upgrade from 11.10 to 12 on VPS based on Parallels Virtuozzo Containers, due to libc6

I was stuck with this problem near the end of an upgrade: WARNING: this version of the GNU libc requires kernel version 2.6.24 or later. Please upgrade your kernel before installing glibc. The installation of a 2.6 kernel could ask you to install a new libc first, this is NOT a bug...

ubuntu kernel upgrade parallels

Amith KK

It's not pirating if you are using an unused licence

Takkat

US$ 7.99 is not really a fortune, is it?

Amith KK

09:02

No

But I am prohibited from using any money payments till my pre finals get over

That's like 1 mo away

Takkat

<-- always is happy to support games made for Ubuntu. I put my slider on the dev side when purchasing Humble Bundles

njallam

@Takkat Same Here - Devs > Charity > Humble Tip - They all get some of my money though

Journeyman Geek

there's a HIB going on now?

Takkat

@AmithKK how does that go together with the finals?

njallam

@JourneymanGeek no, we are just talking about them in general

Journeyman Geek

09:04

ahh

Amith KK

@Takkat Its like Ist Term>IInd term>Mid Term>Pre Final>Final

Journeyman Geek

thinks he's gotten all but the android one (didn't have my phone then) and the latest one (didn't have anything in paypal then)

Takkat

@JourneymanGeek and if they would survive an upgrade...

Amith KK

I brought One and Two

njallam

I've missed HIB1&2 (However I have got all the games from those in later bundles) and not paid more than average on HAB2

Amith KK

09:06

Taxes extra as applicable
Temporarily out of stock - back order for dispatch 05/12/2012

Great!

in.rsdelivers.com/product/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-type-b/…

Journeyman Geek

@AmithKK: got mine ;p

njallam

I'm still lacking the point of the Raspberry Pi.

Journeyman Geek

@njallam: cheap hacky computer

Amith KK

@JourneymanGeek nice

@njallam make Computer

njallam

@JourneymanGeek I get those free out of Skips

Journeyman Geek

09:08

Skips?

njallam

"Dumpsters" I believe is the translation

Journeyman Geek

@njallam: low power, small size. Runs a regular OS

it pretty much covers the same niche the old BBC micros did

njallam

@JourneymanGeek and I suppose isn't covered in mud

Journeyman Geek

its a great system to learn on

lol

Amith KK

@njallam Nope

Journeyman Geek

09:10

@njallam: I have 3 salvaged systems, one of which is a dumpster diva

njallam

But if I want to program, I just fire up Eclipse.

Why do I need a tasty desert to do so?

K.K Patel

o /

Journeyman Geek

but I still rather like the PI, once i get a better power supply for it

Amith KK

How about a low power media center

njallam

@AmithKK Ah, low power is the selling point.

I just took apart 2 old computers and stuck them together to make a media center

Amith KK

09:12

Well ok... :P

You win

njallam

:P

Stack Exchange

Stefano Palazzo has added an event to this room's schedule.

njallam

Ooo nice ^

Journeyman Geek

@njallam: I picked up a c2d from a dumpster, 2 gigs of ram, dead video card, no hard drive

I run windows 8, 7, xp and kubuntu on it ;p

njallam

nice

Journeyman Geek

09:17

I may switch it over to a pure kubuntu desktop eventually

njallam

Kubuntu is a really good OS.

Can't believe Canonical dropped it, however is probably was for the best (no obnoxious shopping buttons)

So what is this event?

Journeyman Geek

@njallam: they dropped everything but mainline

Amith KK

09:32

BBL

Stefano Palazzo

09:43

@njallam its the au session at uds

Ill post a link to the audio stream and irc channel in a few minufes

Maybe even video

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Exeleration-G

Hello guys

Just woke up after dreaming about lots of computer parts. Waking up was a deception.

smartboyhw

Hi guys

Hussain Tamboli

sorry here is my url askubuntu.com/questions/210440/…

its_me

10:01

Anyone on Ubuntu 12.10 here? I just uninstalled Thunderbird by mistake, and although I installed it, some features seem to be missing.

Bruno Pereira

morning all

fossfreedom

o/ morning Bruno

Gladen

Morning

It's me: What features are missing?

Bruno Pereira

get to IRC if you want to participate on the session

Hussain Tamboli

somebody please answer here askubuntu.com/questions/210440/…

ajmitch

10:05

morning all

Stefano Palazzo

IRC: webchat.freenode.net/?channels=ubuntu-uds-b4-m9

2

its_me

@Gladen see how the new contact window looks like: i.snag.gy/Y9kc8.jpg

It should look different with more tabs

Anyone know what Thunderbird addons are installed by default in Ubuntu 12.10?

Gladen

Let

Let's see if I can access my Ubuntu installation from here.. At least in Firefox there is a special Ubuntu addon for Unity integration and such..

its_me

ok

@Gladen Look in Thunderbird > Tools > Add-ons if you can

Gladen

My computer is turned off at home.. >.< But I did find an Ubuntu virtual machine here, starting it up now..

its_me

10:14

Oh, glad :)

jrg

@flabricorn: that's what my current work situation is. I need to have an entity for the other thing I'm looking to do though, so it's... Difficult.

Achu

@HussainTamboli Are you trying to setup Cron jobs?

Gladen

Alright got it! Addons installed are :Global Menu Bar integration and Messaging Menu and Unity Launcher integration

Also check if the package thunderbird-globalmenu is installed on Ubuntu

Think that one installs those packages if I am right..

its_me

@Gladen okay, I will check

Gladen

Ok. :)

Hussain Tamboli

10:22

@Achu no using upstart/initctl. sorry took some time to reply. was out.

its_me

@Gladen oh no, it's already installed... missing something else :(

Gladen

Hm, strange..

Maybe a full reïnstall by doing sudo apt-get purge thunderbird and then reïnstalling it again? Else I don't know what could be the problem, sorry. :/

Achu

@HussainTamboli ok, i was trying to help if you are trying to accomplish cron jobs. Those are out of my knowledge. sorry :)

its_me

@Gladen I will try that, and thanks for trying to help :)

Stefano Palazzo

sorry I forgot about that. the audio stream is here: icecast.ubuntu.com:8000/b4-m9.ogg.m3u

Gladen

10:27

@its_me Alright, no problem man!

its_me

@Gladen Okay found it. This package was missing 'xul-ext-lightning'

Now that I've installed it, everything look as it should

itworld.com/software/304623/install-thunderbird-ubuntu-1210

Hussain Tamboli

10:49

@Achu, so then how do I do it with cron?

@Achu I mean at the minimum it will try to check it per min. That doesn't seem like a good way.

@Achu there has to be another way to monitor such tasks. I don't even know if upstart can do it. I am trying to do it blindly.

Achu

Using Cron job you can run commands every min. like this:

*/1 * * * * /path/to/command

If you are new to cron job please read this first:

help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto

It's a good documentation

Hussain Tamboli

@Achu, I have been using cron for some time. I get my incremental backup using cron. But it is mostly for scheduled jobs. I am gonna have to check at least every min if the service or process is running . if not i am gonna have to restart it. but that doesn't seem like a good way. i don't know If everybody accepts this way?

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