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01:34
@terdon lol
Ubuntu does a lot of NIH... so... sometimes yes
something like netplan or upstart (in the past) very much would be
 
10 hours later…
11:49
@JourneymanGeek no, not even those. Not only would Mint very likely have them by default, even if it didn't, anyone was free to install them on a non-Ubuntu system.

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