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Roland Taylor

15:00

I approved it, flagged, and left a comment.

@jokerdino that was happening to me as well, I think it's the site.

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor is it? i can't tell for sure though. :/

msPeachy

it's pretty okay on my side, so maybe it's not the site?

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy it must be a clash between me and dino then :D

Our comps are fighting over sending messages to you :D

THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE OF US IN THESE PARTS HOMBRE!

jokerdino

@msPeachy yeah i think coz i hate everyone.

msPeachy

wuhat?

Roland Taylor

15:03

I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DUEL

msPeachy

@jokerdino oh no you don't

jokerdino

sends a pair of olive leaves to Roland.

Roland Taylor

jokerdino

@msPeachy ofcourse everyone else knows about me more than myself.

Roland Taylor

There, that's my gift in return :)

msPeachy

15:05

@jokerdino Oh don't mind the kids, you know how they are

jokerdino

takes the bullet in his heart.

falls down on the ground.

@msPeachy you'd think.

is in the last moments.

htorque

hi! is anyone here using nike+ with ubuntu?

jokerdino

no i use reebok.

msPeachy

lol

htorque

installed fine via wine, but cannot connect to the device

msPeachy

15:06

@RolandTaylor how long is that?

htorque

i guess it's some weird usb storage issue with wine

jokerdino

@htorque i'd guess so

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy I'm not sure

I have to get calliper and measure it :P

msPeachy

lol

smartboyhw

Hi @htorque

msPeachy

15:08

approximation?

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino O_O

@msPeachy well it would be about 2 meters irl

It's a future gun for Mission : Illumination, from the war age

msPeachy

whoah two meters?

what a gun

Marco Ceppi

Our answer rate is unacceptable, keep up the review efforts, and answering those questions!

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jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi Nope.

I demand free swag for the hard workers.

Though I do accept the fact that our current answer rate is unacceptable.

htorque

@smartboyhw hi

smartboyhw

15:15

Actually cya all lol I need to sleep

Swimming gala tmr

jokerdino

@htorque you never said hi to me :(

@smartboyhw bye

htorque

@jokerdino hi to me

jokerdino

@htorque And the smiley?

htorque

i don't say smilies :P

jokerdino

anyway, still obsessed with devel release or using LTS? :P

htorque

15:16

LTS@work, bleeding_edge@home :P

jokerdino

@htorque you should try your best :P

@htorque way to go :P

btw, mispelled Ubuntus are all over the place. needs some cleanup.

htorque

i gave up :D

jokerdino

bah.

i'll clean it up over the weekend then. ;P

need something to keep myself busy.

htorque

get a job - it helped me :D

jokerdino

heh :P

in about 5 years time or so then.

Roland Taylor

15:20

back

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Q: How to change the terminal to SCO compliant in Ubuntu

I have a server in which SCO 5.x is installed. I have several thin clients which were supplied from our head office. Those thin clients have linux pre-installed in them. When we tried to connect to our SCO server, we have found out that the thin client does not support SCO terminal type. So the p...

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jokerdino

get a job ^ get a job ^ get a job ^ get a job

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi half of our problem is people asking out of the norm questions

We get a lot of "Ibijibi, Ambijambi"

No one can answer them :/

htorque

do we have a problem?

jokerdino

15:23

Bilibio, ghilibaidi?

htorque

is the answer rate the only true metric?

jokerdino

we don't have enough moderators :P

looks around.

Also, gajdipajti

Marco Ceppi

@htorque no, there are several other metrics, all of which we're doing fine in

But low answer rate is a problem. If there are more unanswered questions than not, people won't continue using the site

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi I think they count for nothing if we can't answer questions after all, ain't it?

Marco Ceppi

right now 14,000 questions are considered unanswered

@jokerdino if we can't answer the question, then it should probably be closed

no need to keep kicking the can down the road

jokerdino

15:26

the other day, i was suggesting to foss to make it mandatory for new users to register their accounts.

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino Intigiji, janomiji

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi no way, i don't want to face Eliah's wrath on Meta.

Marco Ceppi

The only wrath you have to worry about is mine ;)

jokerdino

You do know I delete at least 40 questions every week or so.. right?

Marco Ceppi

Delete or close?

jokerdino

15:28

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Q: Is it okay to send old questions to doom?

Given this context: If the question is more than 30 days old, and ... has -1 or lower score has no answers is not locked ... it will be automatically deleted. I have downvoted some 30-odd questions that are quite old (more than 3 months or so), have no votes, no answers and not close...

discussion delete unanswered-questions auto-delete

@MarcoCeppi Downvote.

msPeachy

there are too many questions that needs to be closed and removed

jokerdino

But so many people are opposed to downvoting. So, I do it all by myself.

I'll eat any blame thrown my way too.

Marco Ceppi

Send anyone opposed to downvoting to me

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jokerdino

@RolandTaylor --^ :P

Marco Ceppi

Downvoting is the most essential action anyone can do on the site. To not use it would be foolish

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jokerdino

15:31

I think I'll make a meta post about the good ways of getting rid of abandonware over the weekend.

msPeachy

lol

Roland Taylor

Pff

@jokerdino Marco does not scare me.

You downvote, I'll help people write better Q/A

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi I guess that's a yes to what I am currently doing :P

Marco Ceppi

@RolandTaylor you're free not to downvote anyone. It's not wise to recommend others to do the same.

Roland Taylor

I don't recommend it

jokerdino

15:33

@RolandTaylor I downvote abandoned questions dear.

Roland Taylor

I also don't not downvote just because of a rep cost.

jokerdino

Just so, we don't accumulate dust.

Marco Ceppi

I downvote bad questions and answers all the time

Roland Taylor

I just think that downvoting should be reserved for special cases.

If an answer for example should be a comment, flag it.

Marco Ceppi

it's my duty to help sort the content on the site, and by doing so I tell someone "This isn't the best Q or A you could have given"

Roland Taylor

15:33

Downvoting it - is pointless.

jokerdino

Marco, the last time I checked, I have had cast more downvotes than you :P

I am a meanie guy.

Roland Taylor

If someone could have given a better answer, but at least gave it effort, I won't take their rep, I'll comment.

@jokerdino now you see, you get a kick out of it.

I don't.

jokerdino

Whatever be your point, I think what I am doing is better for the site.

Marco Ceppi

@jokerdino I'll have to downvote twice as hard now ;)

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi Yeah, good luck with that :P

Marco Ceppi

15:36

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Roland Taylor

Problem?

jokerdino

Why am I starring all the Marco's messages??!

Roland Taylor

@jokerdino I think there is no "better for the site in this"

As I always say, it's not about who does it or who gets notice for what they do, it's that things just get done.

Each person has different methods and motivations, and mine just simply include *less* downvoting than yours.

jokerdino

I respectfully disagree with you.

Marco Ceppi

@RolandTaylor there's a very clear reason why Jeff and Joel added an up and down button for voting

Roland Taylor

15:39

@MarcoCeppi note, I didn't say I never do downvote.

Marco Ceppi

it would be like saying "I just choose to vote down content I can edit instead of editing it. If I do the work for the user they'll never learn"

Roland Taylor

I'm just more specific about what I downvote.

Marco Ceppi

Well then there's no problem now

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi if I have to edit because you did a poor job, I'll comment on it. Most of the time, people seem to get it.

I don't know why, but maybe I just have that effect on people?

jokerdino

You do don't have much of an idea on what sorta posts I downvote though right?

I downvote (mainly questions) that are not useful nor helpful because they are abandoned by their owners.

msPeachy

15:42

I'll do the downvoting for Roland :)

jokerdino

People who doesn't care about our site in anyway that they don't even have a registered account.

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy lol <3

@jokerdino I close those if they are not useful to anyone else and can't be answered.

msPeachy

I do down vote but mostly I edit first, then comment, then flag, then if it's really really bad, I'll downvote it

Roland Taylor

I downvote questions that are clearly someone being downright stupid (like rants).

jokerdino

@RolandTaylor Well, proxy deleting seems like a better idea to me.

Roland Taylor

15:43

@msPeachy +1

jokerdino

Well, I edit posts that are new-ish, that have a reasonable chance of getting answered.

Not those that are at least a year old, etc

Because I think that is just a waste of my energy.

Of course, you wouldn't have to get what I am trying to say.

msPeachy

I agree, I spend most of my time in the First Posts of Review Beta

@RolandTaylor thanks

jokerdino

If one downvote does a better job than 5 close votes, I think that should be recommended.

msPeachy

@jokerdino I agree that there are questions that really must be deleted

jokerdino

It saves collective energy of the rest 4 people.

Roland Taylor

15:46

I'm going back to Blender, because I don't like being a villain (as I often am).

Ciao.

Marco Ceppi

But you can always reverse your votes

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor nooo

jokerdino

Bye.

Marco Ceppi

I think that's the important thing to note

Typically, it's Bad post, Downvote, comment, person fixes and comments back, I upvote

Everyone's workflow is different

jokerdino

I dislike when people don't want to involve in a discussion when they can't defend themselves.

Sorry abt that.

Marco Ceppi

15:47

but if you're flagging before downvoting, that's straight wrong

jokerdino

@MarcoCeppi How about both?

Marco Ceppi

Don't waste my time looking at something you should have just downvoted

jokerdino

Oh, you mean that way.

No, I don't ever remembering flagging anything as LQP.

Marco Ceppi

Flagging is pretty much the absolute last thing you should ever do

5 mins ago, by msPeachy

I do down vote but mostly I edit first, then comment, then flag, then if it's really really bad, I'll downvote it

In RE: ^

jokerdino

Ah, I see. Thanks.

I guess that's the Roland's effect.

attacks.

msPeachy

15:49

well I think flagging an answer that should be removed by a mod is better instead of downvoting it

jokerdino

@msPeachy I think Marco is talking about cases that don't have to be deleted but should just be voted down.

Like a half baked answer that could possibly help if it was improved.

msPeachy

since I can't delete it myself and you have the super powers otherwise I wouldn't waste mods time by flagging things

jokerdino

Right.

msPeachy

He said flagging is the last thing to do, so what about dupes? If the post was well written but a dupe, I wouldn't downvote it, i'll just flag it.

jokerdino

@msPeachy Like I said, I am of the opinion that he is talking about cases when a post doesn't have to be acted upon by a mod but only deserves corrective voting measures.

msPeachy

15:53

ok

jokerdino

So, you downvote when a post shouldn't be deleted but deserves substantial improvements.

We can have a meaningful discussion if people don't jump to assumptions and conclusions too fast. I am outta here for the day.

msPeachy

Oh I forgot

good night

@RolandTaylor still here? I'm off to bed

Good night

Amith KK

16:25

Hello all

Amith KK

16:36

BBT

Good Night

Roland Taylor

16:49

@jokerdino ...

@jokerdino let me put this lightly.

That's bullsh*t

I can defend myself, I just am avoiding conflict these days for the sake of self-control and my sanity.

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Anwar

o/

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: X11 on server without forwarding

I'm running a java application on my ubuntu server which refuses to open if it cannot open a window (the content of the windows is of no interest for me). Since the server is not connected to any screen I don't want to have a full running x11 environment like openbox. Currently I'm forwarding thi...

ubuntu x11

Anwar

Looks like there was a discussion about downvote..

@jokerdino because you like it.. me too

Oh, my god. so many messages to star

jrg

17:11

Did people freak out?

Anwar

I just arrived and read some earlier comments

jrg

@aking1012: "So people hire you to break into their places... to make sure no one can break into their places?" "It's a living." "Not a very good one"

Was thinking of you today when I read that.

penreturn

\o/

Anwar

17:59

@Mitch oops

I was writing an answer to that question. and this was answerable too.

:(

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penreturn

i hv 1 question

Anwar

You are welcome

penreturn

does askubuntu rep helps joining ubuntu member?

Anwar

One close vote needed for this to be closed

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Q: How do I copy files from Windows partition to my Ubuntu partition

I am dual-booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu and I have many important files on my Windows OS. I've been trying to copy the files from windows to my Ubuntu home directory but the paste option is disabled when I rt click in my home dir. How can I copy the files? What is the command to copy files from ...

command-line windows copy

jrg

18:07

@penreturn yes, it does.

penreturn

i see... thanks @jrg

jrg

helped me a ton, it's one of the only reasons I'm a member.

Anwar

<-- feeling good

penreturn

yeah? im new in ubuntu... almost 1 year... i just hv blog n help community on fb

Anwar

we have a group on facebook too.

penreturn

18:10

i see... may i join?

Anwar

You can, but I think it will not help you too much

penreturn

let see if i can help answering basic question :p im on ubuntu-my loco, indo, india

Anwar

Are you an Indian?

your profile saying "Malaysia"

penreturn

nope... im from malaysia and im answering question on other loco to on fb

Anwar

oh. ok

penreturn

18:17

im a lil bit worry for interview... im not very good in english T..T

jrg

@penreturn you can have it done in your native language.

Anwar

hmm... you aren't good in english. and I'm bad in English

penreturn

really? then who gonna translate that?

Anwar

Why is KDE-accessible icon is always on on my PC ? I can't remove it

It seems like a virus, whenever i select quit, it gets started

1 vote is needed for this question be considered as answered. OP says the answers helped him. askubuntu.com/q/186047/61218

Roland Taylor

penreturn

18:29

@RolandTaylor looks like maine coon

Anwar

What is the icon at the left ?

is that a virus?

penreturn

@Anwar which one?

Anwar

the left most icon

Roland Taylor

@Anwar that's the accessibility icon.

You can disable it.

Anwar

@RolandTaylor but i can't

every time i select quit, it starts automatically :(

Roland Taylor

18:38

That means that accessibility has been enabled then

Check your system settings.

It used to happen to me too with certain Qt applications.

ObsessiveFOSS

19:12

Just brought down the closevote queue to 0 for the day...

George Edison

Halp! My desktop just reverted to the Gnome theme.

penreturn

@GeorgeEdison why is that>

ObsessiveFOSS

20:26

This error message makes me chuckle: "NVRM: GPU at 0000:01:00.0 has fallen off the bus."

Anwar

He added 4 answer in PHP question within 20~ mins. Is this indicating a dupeness in those question? or something else? askubuntu.com/users/34298/rubo77?tab=answers&sort=newest

penreturn

@Anwar same answer for all question?

Anwar

Yes. of course

penreturn

lol...

Anwar

See this page askubuntu.com/questions?sort=active

penreturn

20:37

@Anwar yea i can see that :D

ObsessiveFOSS

@Anwar Should something be done? A comment? Is the user even in the wrong?

Anwar

@ObsessiveFOSS shrugs, I really don't know

penreturn

askubuntu.com/questions/182505/… does the answer relate to ubuntu server 12.04?

ObsessiveFOSS

Can you start a meta post?

Anwar

but I think, this type of things shouldn't happen

ObsessiveFOSS

20:40

Just start a meta post, with proper links.

Anwar

It is 2:40 AM here. really need to go to bed

ObsessiveFOSS

I don't even know how I got second highest meta participation.

penreturn

wewww

Anwar

@ObsessiveFOSS nice

I surprised to see my name on the second line

I was looking at the bottom of the page

penreturn

wakakka look like im far away from all of u T..T

Anwar

20:42

and hoping to find my name on the 2nd page

Good night, cya

penreturn

nite sir

wisemonkey

does anyone here know how to etch to lightscribe disks?

7

Q: How do I use lightscribe when burning CDs and DVDs?

I can I produce those nice images on the back of my dvd (lightscribe)? Is it possible on ubuntu?

dvd burning

I'm following that one -- but still wanted opinions

aking1012

21:13

fwiw - i found out one of the triggers for that "no battery present" bug. if you suspend and hard power off during suspend - next reboot you get no battery present.

@jrg - lollerskates

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George Edison

@wisemonkey What is the manufacturer of your drive?

aking1012

@TheInterrupter hey, i wonder if anyone has thought to make a "unity lenses" adapter application for android... the crowd goes wild ... that would make the askubuntu lens an app along with loads of other lenses...

@GeorgeEdison the rename to the interrupter is still in place ;)

George Edison

Well... an interruption is an interruption.

aking1012

sorry...did i break your lightstribe concentration in my best samuel l jackson voice

Takkat

21:28

@wisemonkey: I can't test this (no lightscribe drive here) but may be worth a look: sourceforge.net/projects/qlscribe

George Edison

My latest endeavor:

Roland Taylor

22:35

@AmithKK ^ done with Blender, I can tell you how or send you a blend file if you need.

No Adobe junk was used in the making of this glow.

aking1012

you'll get a faster response if you make them look like the sonic gems...

Roland Taylor

23:37

All he has to do is remove the 5 points, and use the glow, then change the colours.

George Edison

23:55

Stupid smoke detector... it's loud and it's broken >:(

msPeachy

I'm a little bit of crazy
I'm a little bit of a fool
I'm a little bit of lonely
I'm a little bit of all
Oh, I need a cure
Just a little bit of you
And I will fall

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