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LnxSlck

00:07

@aking1012, i like both actually

aking1012

00:37

@LnxSlck thx for the feedback. i'm trying to do pre-dev feedback so i do it right the first time

jrg

00:56

@mateo_salta unsupervised edits are the bread and butter of the sites well being.

@izx Should be taken care of.

LnxSlck

@aking1012, gtk icons are those people are used to, personally i also like the monochrome

of course all depends with the theme you got going at the moment

mateo_salta

@jrg yep, that is why I slowed down a bit to think, I'll keep improving questions where I can.

@aking1012 is there a way you can use the icon theme from the users desktop? Although I like the ones that are in the screenshot you have.

LnxSlck

how do i run nautilus so if it crshes i see the error?

aking1012

01:21

@mateo_salta I chose gtk.stock. If it's put together correctly, it should just work. The monochrome ones would be similar, but cleaner.

Really frustrated that I actually paid for MW3 and they can't get their "server" choice right. If I wanted to play a hacked game I would play pirated games on hack-servers.

Come to think of it, cracked MW3 might be more stable than legit MW3 since the crackers might actually say "this is hacks server" and "this is legit play server"

mateo_salta

@aking1012 yeah keeping it simple would be better. Honor among... Is what they always say.

aking1012

all i'm getting at is i won't pay for their franchise again while they mule out the server part to players without verifying their installation

jrg

@mateo_salta Hey, don't be afraid to edit.

Edits can be rolled back. Edits can be a good starting point for future edits.

aking1012

01:37

24 minutes until a new episode of person of interest. should be interesting...
also, the cryptograme engine is coming along. UI is basically finished. now it's just the actual engine completion and the trophy system

mateo_salta

yep, I'll get rolling again

@aking1012 that is a good show

aking1012

i like it...new episode looks like an exciting one on CBS tonight

mateo_salta

trophies, will it keep track of users and compare their scores?

aking1012

more like single player trophies. like percentage solved and timer based/never erasing/etc for difficulty level

mateo_salta

that sounds cool

aking1012

01:40

yeah. if i ever finish it, it should be :)

my dev-cycle is crazy fast, but so is my bored cycle

i'm debating about ads since i can't find a solid app ad provider. idk if feature limitation is too irritating or not irritating enough to force a buy.

mateo_salta

01:56

if you get cryptographic centered add's, users may be enthusiastic about the adds. do you read penny arcade? I like their add policy.

aking1012

i read penny arcade, but i'm not familiar with their ad policy

mateo_salta

penny-arcade.com/2012/08/08/kickstarter-almost-over

they review the games they put up for their adds, so It is stuff they would actually like

aking1012

that's interesting. i'ld really rather sell a 5 USD app than belabour it with ads, but i'm trying to find a working model. def bookmarked it to go back and read again

oops, the show is on...

mateo_salta

recording...

lazyPower

@aking1012 o/

aking1012

02:10

o/ @lazy - i'm here during commercials

lazyPower

Pre season :) gotta love it

aking1012

@mateo_salta i no haz dvr

@lazyPower burn notice going to one episode on hulu is upsetting me a little

@lazyPower you do app-dev. if i finish this game-y thing interested in closed beta?

lazyPower

Certainly -- hope you're looking for bug reports

i <3 producing stack traces and chrome console logs

mateo_salta

bugs!

jrg

BUGS. SQUISH THEM!

lazyPower

02:13

its become a forte of mine. -- had to train up two people how to get up to speed with selenium testing :)

aking1012

that too. it's python with pygi, so bugs should be minimal. mostly UI concerns and gameplay...although nobody said python can't have bugs cough software center cough

lazyPower

Its awesome, scrape a stack trace and dump it to JSON output for now - next step is to hook it into a ruby script to auto-post it to our issue tracker.

jrg

@aking1012 amen.

mateo_salta

best way to learn, is to try and teach someone...

jrg

@lazyPower ooohhh.

lazyPower

02:14

truth -- i've never had my knowledge challenged like explaining something I only half know

and selenium is one of those things.

aking1012

oh lord...we're back on selenium. did amithkk put you up to this ;P

jrg

heh.

aking1012

methinks he's trying for a stackchat bot which i already mostly accomplished

lazyPower

No, i use selenium to run integration tests and UI tests in all major browsers because browserling is an awesome idea but a really crappy implementation.

The Interrupter

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lazyPower

02:16

or whatever their selenium equivalent is

aking1012

cool. i'm trying to find a less tedious way to do that for pygi

back on commercial...

lazyPower

is there a unittest module that you can use?

or otherwise drive interface actions programmatically? i've found its a good way to produce coverage -- i speak like I have tons of code coverage - we are sitting at 35% total coverage now since we started TDD/BDD super late in the game.

shame on me, I'll bite the bullet

aking1012

i'm not for or against unit testing, but i was thinking enumerating buttons and checking desired outcomes for match conditions

i said something about the shortcomings of TDD/unit testing at defcon if the video becomes public

lazyPower

Lightning talk?

aking1012

no full hour

lazyPower

02:19

Wow

aking1012

i ran short though...

i stressed out about it a lot

lazyPower

i would, defcon is kind of a big conference. It would be like speaking at UDS

aking1012

i meant that i stressed on running short. speaking in front of people is no big deal except that i choked and speedtalked so ... ran short

lazyPower

Oh!

i'm more of a stress first, manic breakdown during kinda guy.

aking1012

my previous experience was toorcon where i tried to squeeze an hour in to 20 minutes...so it wasn't a problem that i was speed-talking

either way...i saw a video on a friend's wall that stressed "you're on stage...so you're badass. they'll forgive you if you screw up". unless of course you're on the boob stage for hacker jeopardy.

lazyPower

02:24

Truth. Not many people can say they spoke at Defcon, or toorcon for that matter.

I have yet to give a talk, lightning or otherwise, at a conference. I actually just attended my first real deal conference last weekend. #SCRC12

aking1012

fair point. it hasn't helped on the employment front though

msPeachy

Good morning!

aking1012

@msPeachy morning

msPeachy

You dance?

aking1012

no. given the choice between dancing and being an oracle...i'ld rather be an oracle. (Afro-Caribbean religious reference...)

msPeachy

02:33

Saw your starred message. you though all women dance? lol

aking1012

also, physical movement without purpose doesn't make sense...so i can't do it

@msPeachy no i thought all women thought all men should dance. distinct difference

msPeachy

lol, but you don't

aking1012

correct

msPeachy

oh so you only do things with a purpose

aking1012

exactly so. i don't play games i can't win, i don't do actions without a purpose, i don't etc etc

msPeachy

02:36

you don't try? if you think you won't win, you won't do it?

lazyPower

@msPeachy He does however make a mean chilli

aking1012

i'll try anything once, but if it's obvious i won't win - i don't play

msPeachy

@lazyPower chilli?

aking1012

@lazyPower lolz

and i in fact do make a mean chili

lazyPower

Cincinnati chili

Cincinnati chili (or "Cincinnati-style chili") is a regional style of Chili con carne characterized by the use of seasonings such as cinnamon, cloves, allspice or chocolate. It is commonly served over spaghetti or as a hot dog sauce, and is normally of a thin, sauce-like consistency, unlike most chili con carne. While served in many regular restaurants, it is most often associated with several restaurant chains such as Empress Chili, Skyline Chili, Gold Star Chili, Camp Washington Chili and Dixie Chili. Restaurant locations are found pervasively in the greater Cincinnati area with franchi...

aking1012

02:38

i'm more of a fire-chili kind of guy, but yes.

msPeachy

@aking1012 Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising every time we fall.

lazyPower

and don't listen to his "i dont play if i wont win" mentality. He plays plenty, just not on the dance floor.

Jeff

hi. everyone. i didn't even know this tab was here! :D

msPeachy

hate chilli

lazyPower

something about metasploit and pwning noobs

aking1012

02:40

@lazyPower fair point. i was more referring to scrabble

lazyPower

last time i checked, you had to play to pwn.

;) <3

aking1012

next year my goal isn't speaking at defcon, it's emulating atlas

Jeff

but since it is: how does one find the "sub-processes invoked by gcc"? This phrase comes from mpicc --help, which says: Options starting with -g, -f, -m, -O, -W, or --param are automatically passed on to the various sub-processes invoked by gcc.

lazyPower

I'll be your advocate @aking1012. Its how I roll.

aking1012

i appreciate it, but being my advocate and portraying really me are two different things. i'ld rather portray me. i'm not looking any more despite how much i want to do so.

Jeff

02:42

sorry to interrupt your food discussion :|

lazyPower

dude, you need to learn how to have a wingman.

When I win the lotto, and I can afford to employ you, i'm taking you on a pub crawl.

msPeachy

andrew doesn't need a wingman

aking1012

flying solo does have its advantages

lazyPower

I wont be dissuaded so easily

aking1012

check what happened to atlas. i'm pretty sure he's not looking for work...ever

@lazyPower whenever i'm where you are we'll fly pairs at a bar...you might be surprised

lazyPower

02:45

I doubt it - you're a fairly smooth talker.

aking1012

there is that.

aking1012

02:58

so...person of interest was GOOD. waiting on the next episode now...

msPeachy

season 1 just ended

mateo_salta

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Q: stuck at grub command prompt after install of ubuntu 12.10

I set up a dual boot windows 7 and ubuntu on my laptop. I make a bootable usb stick and used pendrive to make it. When first trying to install, it wouldn't boot and gave me errors. So then i ran the exe on the pen drive in windows, and it asked me if i wanted to have it help me run the cd; So ...

aking1012

@msPeachy :/ it was a special time so i was hoping

@mateo_salta i won't vote yet. give him time to prove it happens on 12.04 also

Roland Taylor

Hi everyone.

aking1012

o/ @Roland

msPeachy

03:01

@aking1012 the jim caviezel series?

lazyPower

o/ @RolandTaylor

mateo_salta

ok, it does need editing sitll, It is quite round-a-bout

msPeachy

Hey Roland, morning to you

aking1012

@msPeachy yes

Roland Taylor

@aking1012 @lazyPower o/ :D

@msPeachy ^_^ good morning :D

msPeachy

03:02

@aking1012 it ended 3 months ago.

I'm waiting for season 2

aking1012

new episode was tonight on CBS

Roland Taylor

Person of Interest?

aking1012

yep. i just watched it

msPeachy

really???

mateo_salta

yeah, I have it on dvr, going to watch later

msPeachy

03:03

which episode?

Roland Taylor

I haven't seen it yet, but a friend of mine has been raving about it and wants to get it to me so I can watch it.

aking1012

@mateo_salta see, i'm not freakin crazy...much

msPeachy

I love the episode about Root

never thought she was a woman, she got finch

aking1012

there was a root reference in this one...i was thinking it was new though

finch ~= harold?

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor It's great, you'll like it. Techie guys will love it

@aking1012 yes

root gained access to harold's network

aking1012

03:05

ok yes. that episode

it was old? i hadn't watched the series in some time

msPeachy

plus, just love jim's eyes

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy awesome :D

aking1012

@msPeachy there's something to be said for lack of fear and absolute determination

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy they glow blue?

msPeachy

@aking1012 yes, root first appeared on episode 13 which was aired sometime Feb 2012

She appeared again on the season finale, aired sometime last may

aking1012

03:06

i meant the episode with the coffeeshop scene and the fbi visit

mateo_salta

have any of you seen The Prisoner remake with jim caviezel

Koviko

Quick question... All of my right-click menus and top-bar menus are showing up behind the windows.

Any idea what would cause this or how i could fix it?

msPeachy

@aking1012 Oh a woman who has stolen identity of a guy?

Roland Taylor

@Koviko are you on Unity?

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor they do...

Koviko

03:09

@RolandTaylor Yup.

mateo_salta

is it a window that has been set to be "on top"

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy oh, cause real men, having glowing blue eyes.

aking1012

@msPeachy nope. the root character breached finch's network via honeypot and had a conversation with him after an fbi raid of some apartment she used

Koviko

@mateo_salta It's every window. :(

Roland Taylor

@Koviko run unity it is Compiz being itself.

mateo_salta

03:09

hm...

Koviko

@RolandTaylor Sweet. Thanks.

aking1012

@mateo_salta nope. he's a decent actor though. i think this series will make him...

Roland Taylor

If it persists, check your focus settings in CCSM, and reset them to default.

mateo_salta

I liked him as an actor before this...

msPeachy

@aking1012 that would be episode 13

Koviko

03:10

@RolandTaylor Where would I find those settings? Under Unity?

Roland Taylor

@Koviko I'll get a screenshot, gimmie a minute

aking1012

@msPeachy possibly, i'm not up on the series. i just saw a special time announcement and was all "where do i sign up"

Roland Taylor

msPeachy

@aking1012 I'm guessing you don't do torrents?

aking1012

@msPeachy not much. i try to stay mostly legal

Roland Taylor

03:13

@Koviko General Options>Focus blablabla and you can click on the reset button on those if you still get problems, as that is likely the cause.

Koviko

@RolandTaylor Cool. These are the settings that I have.

aking1012

@msPeachy if i can't buy it individually i'll download it. but that's a whole different moral quandry

Roland Taylor

@Koviko still getting the problem?

Koviko

It started when I ran wine regedit

Roland Taylor

OHHHHHHHHHH

Koviko

03:14

@RolandTaylor Nope. It's currently an anomaly.

Roland Taylor

It was a ghost window that was causing your issue.

msPeachy

well I can't, we don't have CBS, FOX, ABC channels here, so I resort to torrents

aking1012

and that is, in my opinion, completely okay

Koviko

@RolandTaylor That sucks. Are there any ways to avoid that?

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy same here :(

I don't do torrents though for both legal and space reasons

@Koviko not really

Koviko

03:15

@RolandTaylor Okay. Well, at least I know how to restart unity, now. :)

aking1012

setsid unity

it allows unity replacement and debug output on a continuing basis

Roland Taylor

Nice

Koviko

@aking1012 That sounds useful. Does it slow down the PC?

aking1012

not in a measurable fashion

Roland Taylor

I have a script set for switching between Unity, Gnome Classic, and Metacity.

Koviko

03:17

@aking1012 Sounds usable, then. :D

aking1012

oh it is. if you're running screenlets it re-arranges them though...which is irritating

highly irritating

Koviko

@aking1012 Oh, then... urg... How do I undo it?

aking1012

reboot

Koviko

@aking1012 Damn you

aking1012

why do you think it's not in lenstoggle?

Roland Taylor

03:18

lol

not logout and login?

aking1012

that could work too

Roland Taylor

@msPeachy did you start reading the novel?

aking1012

i don't ever log out though

init 6 is vastly more likely then logout

Roland Taylor

I had forgotten to warn you of potential inconsistencies in the story (I don't want to give away spoilers lol, but there are some parts of the story that appear to repeat, because I had changed the story line at those points and haven't had a chance to fix it).

aking1012

you mean it's not a flip to page X to make this decision story-book? i had one of those when i was younger

i'm not kidding...they existed

msPeachy

03:20

Yes...haven't get to that part yet i think

Journeyman Geek

@aking1012: I remember those ;p

aking1012

\o/ i'm not the only one

mateo_salta

I had a Mario brothers one.

msPeachy

@RolandTaylor it'd be better if I print it, my eyes hurt staring too much at the monitor

aking1012

mine was an alaska adventure/suspense book

Roland Taylor

03:22

@msPeachy lol cool

mateo_salta

there was another that was In a haunted house or something, and most of the choices ended bad

Roland Taylor

when you get to the part that repeats itself you will know

Journeyman Geek

I r old ;p

aking1012

i feel old daily

Roland Taylor

you'll be like "Wait... is this de ja vu?"

Journeyman Geek

03:24

You mean it isn't a glitch in the matrix?

aking1012

@msPeachy i used to get headaches from that...then i adjusted by theme to be darker with white text.

Journeyman Geek

yay, light on dark

aking1012

i heard matrix and deja-vu, thought cat, and arrived at this:

2

msPeachy

@aking1012 I use the default theme, ambiance I think.

Roland Taylor

Try a theme like elementary-dark or eGTK (I think that's the name)

aking1012

03:26

yeah. ambiance is the theme i use, but for eclipse the pydev theme makes the background black with white text...which is nice

Journeyman Geek

used to use a modified wanton soup on KDE ;p

Roland Taylor

Completely dark themes, but they look cool and help a lot with eye strain.

Journeyman Geek

ditto on most gtk apps on my evil empire OS systems

msPeachy

@aking1012 I do that on gedit, white text black background, as well as on the terminal

aking1012

my term is transparent, so the wallpaper being black helps

Roland Taylor

03:28

@msPeachy if you find a good theme, having that throughout the system can be really awesome

Journeyman Geek

ooh, do you guys use quake-style terminals?

Roland Taylor

Unfortunately most GTK+ 3.x themes are not all that hot anymore :/

aking1012

@JourneymanGeek i have guake too, but gnome-terminal is set to transparent as well

i find it mildly irritating that i can't set guake to appear on non-left-most screen

one of these days i'll just give up and write all my own apps ;)

►

lazyPower

Heading out -- see yinz

Roland Taylor

cya :D

aking1012

03:35

later on @lazyP

Eliah Kagan

These two questions are about the same thing. (I recommend the top one be made a duplicate of the bottom one; even though the top one is older, the bottom one has an accepted answer.) Then we can ask a mod to merge answers.

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Q: Error: unknown command 'gfxmode'. Pressing any key continues

A few days ago, I installed Ubuntu 12.04. I changed the order of systems on the list of boot loader (I use Windows Vista and Ubuntu on one computer). I also changed, by the way, the appearance of the selection screen (resolution). All this with the Grub Customizer. After reboot and after the list...

grub2

1

Q: Error on boot: unknown command 'gfxmode'. Pressing any key continues

When I boot into Linux, I get this: Error: unknown command 'gfxmode'. Pressing any key continues It takes about 5 secs to boot after that. Pretty slow compared to 11.10, I think. Anyway, my Ubuntu is 12.04 and it just updated today and changed the grub with grubcustomizer. Anyway, I don't wa...

11.10 12.04 upgrade grub2 updates

Jeff

03:48

does anyone know how to get out of a program called metafont? I typed mf and was put in metafont. it doesn't accept quit, exit, leave, getout or exitthef___ingprogramalready.

Journeyman Geek

text mode?

ctrl-c?

Jeff

yes. terminal.

i tried ctrl-c and ctrl-x, too.

Journeyman Geek

open up another terminal/vt and kill the process?

Jeff

I have another window open. how do I kill a process?

ok. i see the kill command. how do i find out a process' pid?

Journeyman Geek

ps aux

ps aux | grep mf is the easy way

or you can use htop

Jeff

03:52

bash doesn't have htop (at least the one i'm on doesn't). using ps aux|grep mf

Eliah Kagan

One more close vote needed to dupe this:

3

Q: I don't see the Unity section in Firefox preferences

I found in another question on AskUbuntu someone had demonstrated on how to enable/disable sites that would integrate with Unity, in the webapps preview. There was a screenshot showing a "Unity" section in the Firefox preferences. I don't have that option. This is the screenshot: How can I get...

unity webapps

Journeyman Geek

@Jeff: htop isn't there by default

its bloody useful tho

Eliah Kagan

@Jeff Neither top nor htop are shell builtins. You can get htop by installing the htop package.

Roland Taylor

plus.google.com/u/0/b/101095404158613257411

Jeff

kill was good enough :D.

isn't there a command to see your command history?

Journeyman Geek

03:54

ya

not a simple one tho ;p

Jeff

do you remember it?

i already tried hist, so you can't make that much fun of me :D

Journeyman Geek

not off hand

Jeff

ok. i guess it's history ;)

Journeyman Geek

ya, must be ;p

Eliah Kagan

2 more close votes needed to dupe this:

0

Q: How to create bootable USB from ubuntu

I want create bootable USB stick with windows7. But ubuntu want to accept windows .iso file and create it. Please help :(

windows usb

Jeff

03:56

the one (and probably only) time linux uses a long file name, and I didn't try it. so embarrassing :D

Eliah Kagan

To this:

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Q: How to create a live usb for Windows in Ubuntu

I have the need to create a Live USB to install Windows but from Ubuntu, I've tried to emulate the tools that make the same function from windows but I just do not work. I would be very helpful to know how. Thanks

windows usb

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