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jokerdino

13:00

@AmithKK dont think so

Jorge Castro

have you used it before?

jokerdino

IIRC, sathya said it was nice.

i want to try it in 2buntu. :D

stueng

is this youtube video, he seems to install CentOS from HTTP, is that possible in ubuntu too? if so what would the URL be? youtube.com/watch?v=e-3Iuq5UQbg

Lord of Time

@stueng define "install from HTTP"

that's an incredibly vague description.

(and I dont watch random youtube links, i've been rickrolled enough)

stueng

look at the video, 50 seconds in

Lord of Time

13:02

perhaps you don't read...

22 secs ago, by Lord of Time

(and I dont watch random youtube links, i've been rickrolled enough)

stueng

lag

izx

@LordofTime When you boldly go forth and predict that the CUPS bugfix probably won't get into -updates before the end of August, and it turns out that it gets in the same day you made your prediction, you should learn to take it in a self-deprecating spirit instead of raising your hackles....

stueng

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jokerdino

@AmithKK I don't think we have markdown editor. Help me please.

Jorge Castro

that just looks like a netinstall

stueng

13:02

there trust it now ?

Lord of Time

@izx it must have gotten an FFe, how the BLOODY HELL should I know when something gets FFe'd

Jorge Castro

pretty sure we can do that

Lord of Time

FFe's are incredibly rare for a pre-release freeze, normally

stueng

a netinstall, so it pulls direct from ubuntu mirrors?

Lord of Time

unless something's in universe or multiverse

Jorge Castro

13:03

it doesn't need an FFe, it's a regression

Lord of Time

@JorgeCastro during a freeze, i thought yuo needed an FFe to get a bugfix pushed

even for regressions

jokerdino

bug fixes bypass freezes.

stueng

I want to script the installation of a ubuntu VPS, id like it to pull the latest installation direct from a mirror when a new machine is requested and the script kicked off

Lord of Time

i doubt that jokerdino

jokerdino

it is called feature freeze for a reason.

Jorge Castro

13:03

bugs go in -updates, not in the main pockets

jokerdino

LOT, you need to read up.

Lord of Time

i've got 2 regression fixes for php5 in the queue

they're high bugs.

and the sponsors refuse to fix those.

izx

@LordofTime Maybe you need to get on the PHP5 dev team for them to be taken seriously ;)

jokerdino

wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze

Lord of Time

you know what, silence from you, @izx

izx

13:04

@LordofTime Oh shush...quit yer whinin'

jokerdino

Politically important convo going on.

ObsessiveFOSS

@LordofTime I do hope you will make PHP better. Can you give the links to these regression bugs, just as a reference?

Lord of Time

@ObsessiveFOSS not from here, LP times out, probably due to the firewall lockdowns

(there was a breach to Personally Identifiable Information servers, the net's pretty locked down except for HTTP)

ObsessiveFOSS

@LordofTime It often times out for me without even a NAT...

stueng

SSL VPN ftw?

Lord of Time

13:06

@ObsessiveFOSS i've already been working with the Server Team, the Release team, and the Sponsors Team on this, they're all in agreement.

that a regression from Oneiric where php5 doesn't report errors back to the web server...

and a regression bug that results in segfaults

do not need to be included pre-12.04.1

jokerdino

wait, are we talking about FFe or SRU here?

Lord of Time

@jokerdino both.

jokerdino

ok

Lord of Time

its filed waiting for thet SRU approval

but the teams are calling it a "feature addin"

when its actually a regression, and tagged as such

izx

Although I know nothing about FFes, I heuristically predicted that there would be a fix released soon ("days at the latest", IIRC) because (a) it was a regression (b) it was a SERIOUSLY bad widespread bug and (c) the person fixing it is the official Ubu/Debian CUPS maintainer and is one of the lead CUPS devs and is employed by the Linux Foundation <= someone to be taken seriously (for better or for worse...)

Amith KK

13:08

@jokerdino I see your point

ObsessiveFOSS

@LordofTime They are absurd. I actually feel like something I write will break...

izx

@LordofTime Why aren't the sponsors on your side? :/ (that sucks, BTW)

Lord of Time

@JorgeCastro @jokerdino so you tell me why a regression from Oneiric to Precise, with an upstream-authored patch attached, and two of them nonetheless, are being ignored.

jokerdino

@AmithKK hmm what about md?

Lord of Time

and have been the bane of existence with php5 since Precise's release

Jorge Castro

13:09

link?

Amith KK

@jokerdino Yeah, I'm on it

jokerdino

@LordofTime yeah because PHP is a triple headed hammer.

@AmithKK tq

Lord of Time

3 mins ago, by Lord of Time

@ObsessiveFOSS not from here, LP times out, probably due to the firewall lockdowns

cant get to the bug link from here

quite literally, the firewalls are on lockdown for outbound and inbound traffic

Jorge Castro

oh bummer

Lord of Time

this connection to the chat existed from pre-lockdown, its on the "established" category

ObsessiveFOSS

13:10

@LordofTime If you are subscribed, you would have gotten at least one email about it, which contains the bug link...

Jorge Castro

well if a patch is attached is it in the sponsorship queue?

Lord of Time

sighs

@ObsessiveFOSS perhaps you don't understand what networking lockdowns are

Emerson Hsieh

Second time I saw a mod here...

Lord of Time

so i'll give you the crash course

ObsessiveFOSS

@LordofTime Email is locked down, also?

Lord of Time

13:11

(1) Networking breach occurs. (2) The network goes into lockdown, blocking all but essential network traffic (i.e. internal)

(3) ALL outbound and inbound traffic goes into insane restrictions mode. (4) Access to gmail/google apps is restricted due to that lockdown.

ObsessiveFOSS

@LordofTime Ah.

Mahesh

@AmithKK u manage 2buntu?

jokerdino

@Mahesh nope

Lord of Time

the only reason this one got through is because currently-established traffic and related traffic directly to it are allowed

stueng

where on earth do you work

jokerdino

13:12

jrg and Roland (and maybe George) are admins. Marco is the server host.

Lord of Time

but not because its on the exemption list on traffic.

jokerdino

Amith is above me though

Lord of Time

@stueng state government.

izx

Which state, pray tell?

jokerdino

liquid state duh!

Lord of Time

13:13

PA

stueng

if my network was being breached, one thing I wouldnt do is keep active sessions alive

izx

lol

Lord of Time

if yuo decode the MGRS location on my LP profile, well...

you'd know PA :P

Mahesh

@jokerdino then y do u trouble @AmithKK ??

Lord of Time

@stueng when you're with the infosec office, they assume you know better

izx

13:13

Well, your AU profile says as much... :P

jokerdino

@Mahesh he said he knows what is going on. Just want him to give up himself :P

Lord of Time

so i don't have a fully locked down system

Ask Ubuntu Meta

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Q: Module and Modules needs to be merged/linked

module and modules needs to be symlinked/merged

Lord of Time

has limited external access for research reasons

now, i need coffee.

COFFEE RUN

izx

@ObsessiveFOSS: Unfortunately, unlike Nisky CSD, state govs are too stupid to give the people who really know their stuff the reins ;)

Emerson Hsieh

13:15

@LordofTime I need to reboot.

izx

The Lord is on a coffee break and you will have to wait before He can give you His permission to reboot.

Emerson Hsieh

WHAT!!!?!

But I rebooted

jokerdino

me no liky the WYISGMSDGSDF editor.

me want the md editor.

izx

then "me" will have to join the SE dev-team :P

Emerson Hsieh

Hi @mateo_salta

ObsessiveFOSS

13:17

@izx Yes, it's fun foiling classmates that want to keylogger the computers to get blog passwords.

mateo_salta

hi @EmersonHsieh

jokerdino

@izx me want jrg to get the md plugin on 2buntu up and running.

Emerson Hsieh

the notification noise is annoying

jokerdino

or me goes on strike and refuse to post updates on 2buntu

ObsessiveFOSS

They mostly use victims' blogs for ads for various sporting activities, since the non-geeks think it's easier to keylogger a computer than to get a wordpress.com account...

jokerdino

13:18

not that me post many updates before but still..

hey Marco, Caps lock key fixed for you?

waits for Marco to shout it out a little.

and hi there @mateo_salta!

mateo_salta

@jokerdino , what kind of editor, is this something other the WYSIWYG or "what you see is what you get"

hi @jokerdino

jokerdino

@mateo_salta I think that is how you spell it. I just don't know what it was. So, making up random crap.

Emerson Hsieh

Can't edit android tag

jokerdino

ehehehe

sometimes, i wish i didn't have the edit privs. :p

Emerson Hsieh

@jokerdino What are you laughing at?

jokerdino

13:22

would have been nice to get those +2 rep ticking in.

Emerson Hsieh

yep

Lord of Time

@JorgeCastro ahh, there we go, the net's back up xD

Emerson Hsieh

does tag wikis count as "suggested edits"?

jokerdino

yep

Lord of Time

lemme get you that link.

Emerson Hsieh

13:22

@LordofTime I just rebooted without your permission!!!!1

stueng

you know those big VPS hosts, where you use a webpage to "buy" a VPS and then its all automatically provisioned and you get an email with your IP address... any clues how they do that? I presume they have standard operating system image, but then they must apply some kind of script somewhere?

Emerson Hsieh

@jokerdino So you don't get the 2 rep if you have the privilege?

jokerdino

@EmersonHsieh well duh

but then again, having the edit priv means i can run through any question anyway i want

mateo_salta

@jokerdino What you is Gimping Makes Sad Design Good Signs Don't Fly?

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Emerson Hsieh

Then I wish I will never reach 2000 rep

@mateo_salta lol

jokerdino

13:25

@mateo_salta lol that makes some sort of a weird sense o.O

ObsessiveFOSS

@EmersonHsieh I never will reach 2000 rep.

jokerdino

@EmersonHsieh remember, you can only get a max of 1000 rep from edits.

Emerson Hsieh

@jokerdino cuz I got about 500 rep from those

Lord of Time

@JorgeCastro apparently it was flagged as a regression within the description, but not within the tags. This is the regression bug. And the segfault bug was untagged as a regression bug, but it is a "High" priority bug, and the bugfix is attached.

Jorge Castro

is ubuntu sponsors subscribed?

Lord of Time

13:28

the regression bug was already fixed in Quantal by upstream

@JorgeCastro oyi, not my first SRU dude

of course they are

Emerson Hsieh

@ObsessiveFOSS Your speed of earning rep is fast. I think you will have 2000 rep by the middle of September

Lord of Time

and the person who's been my contact is a sponsor

Emerson Hsieh

well if you don't use any bounties

Lord of Time

he's the one that said "[They] won't process until after 12.04.1"

Jorge Castro

I don't see it in the queue reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring

Emerson Hsieh

13:30

(stretch) Bye everyone. Used too much computer toay

I mean today

Lord of Time

@JorgeCastro i dont have upload perms

Jorge Castro

bbl, call

Lord of Time

just read the damn bug

ObsessiveFOSS

@EmersonHsieh Absurd.

@EmersonHsieh I'm so far back: stackexchange.com/leagues/31/month/askubuntu/2012-08-01/…

jokerdino

oh wow, am i even in the top 50?!

Anwar

13:32

Can a 3k+ user suggests tag synonym?

ObsessiveFOSS

@Anwar 2500, I think...

jokerdino

yes Anwar.

ObsessiveFOSS

Wait, no.

Amith KK

Someone needs to press the activate button on wordpress

izx

@stueng Install Proxmox. Or lookup OpenVZ...

jokerdino

13:32

You need 2.5k and 5 score in tag

@AmithKK okie.

Amith KK

I could admin myself. But that would be so very wrong.

@jrg mind doing that?

izx

@jokerdino ~75 more rep to break into the all-time top 25...

jokerdino

@izx i was talking about the monthly league =)

and am i that far up in the overall league o.O

izx

@jokerdino Yes you are :)

jokerdino

eheh, apparently, that gap has been bridged a little.

Anwar

13:44

I don't have 5 score on burn tag, so I asked this question meta.askubuntu.com/questions/3861/…

Amith KK

The New Google Doodle is great

izx

@jokerdino LOL...I wonder why your answer rate has dropped to like one a week, though...

@AmithKK What Would Sonic Say?

ObsessiveFOSS

Can I install Ubuntu using blu-ray rewritable media? I have some old bluray +RW's, and +R+DL's around, and need to know which can be used...

izx

BTW, in the market to offer a bounty or two -- any worthy suggestions?

Jorge Castro

@Anwar yeah merging tags can suck, I had to post one today too

@izx I have 2, one sec

Amith KK

13:46

@izx :P

izx

@ObsessiveFOSS Sure, you can burn any in "CD-ISO" mode, so as long as you have a drive that can read them....

ObsessiveFOSS

@izx Thanks... I thought getting a Blu-ray rewriter was a waste...

Jorge Castro

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When I'm trying to boot instances on a specific host (sleepy) by issuing: nova boot --image mybucket/image.manifest.xml --flavor m1.tiny --key_name mykey --hint force_hosts=sleepy test-vm my VMs always seem to start on a random host instead on the one I targeted. Does anybody know why that mig...

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izx

@ObsessiveFOSS Depends when you bought it. I regret paying $250 for a DVD-writer back in 1999-2000...

Amith KK

BBL

izx

13:48

@JorgeCastro Thanks, on it...

jokerdino

@izx bunch of reasons: a bit busy in school work, bored of AU a little etc

Jorge Castro

BORED?

there is so much to do!

ObsessiveFOSS

@izx I watch Star Wars with it and use Blurays and steganography to store encryption keys...

Jorge Castro

I woke up early to work on AU, man up!

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jokerdino

@JorgeCastro lol or maybe a bit burnt. I don't know. you choose.

and then i was hunting for bitesize bugs last week.

was just doing crazy stuff.

@JorgeCastro oh wait. I thought it was Bruno being funny. You woke up early to work on AU? I salute you sir.

Jorge Castro

13:52

@mateo_salta around in chat?

jokerdino

needs to get some sleep so he can differentiate between Jorge and Bruno.

3

mateo_salta

hi!

I'm here @JorgeCastro

Jorge Castro

hey when editing in the button

let's put it first, and then the CLI

so the button is first (unless of course it's a real technical problem where the button would be wrong)

aking1012

@rlemon hasn't been around in a while and I found a new image for his meme-engine

mateo_salta

ok, although some are like "just paste this in terminal..."

Jorge Castro

13:57

yeah

I've been kind of rewriting the little intro parts to make more sense too

mateo_salta

so It would need rewording to say "Use this Package, It is blah blah, to install.. or..."

cool I'll work on that

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