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David Foerster

01:21

@muru Done!

muru

Thanks!

Nathan Osman

04:06

So I bought a smartwatch. :P

Amith KK

05:08

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Q: Weird Ghettoblow Slapahoe Ubuntu Apt Signing Key

I just downloaded a Ubuntu 18 ISO from the Ubuntu site. I looked up the configured apt signing key (0x3B4FE6ACC0B21F32) on a keyserver - entry shown below. What's the deal with the Matthew Knight through Ghettoblow Slapahoe sigs starting 2018-03-25? Doesn't this mean the owner of the key signed ...

What lmao

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

07:17

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Q: Delete key not working in Thunderbird 52.9.1 (64-bit)

I'm running Thunderbird version 52.9.1 (64-bit) on Ubuntu and can no longer delete emails using the delete key of my keyboard.

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Rinzwind

10:01

@NathanOsman do you feel any smarter now?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

12:35

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Q: mount error(13): Permission denied - Occurs several times then works

I'm mounting my shared drive on my ubuntu machine using the below command: sudo cifs -o "username=${USER},uid=$(id -u),gid=$(id -g)" //server-address/folder /mount/path/on/ubuntu then it asks for the password of this username but for some reasons I get this error message mount error(13): Permi...

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Ubuntu Questions on U&L

14:26

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Q: how to make compile the env

First i did exported export ARCH=arm export CROSS_COMPILE=/home/laxman/Project/Mobile_Printer/myandroid/prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/arm/arm-linux-androideabi-4.9/bin/arm-linux-androideabi- make mx6qsabresd_config laxman@laxman:~/Project/Mobile_Printer/myandroid/bootable/bootloader/uboot-imx$ make...

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Zanna

14:48

edit approved why? (I've already rolled back)

Amith KK

15:10

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A: "Unable to locate package" when I try to install squirrelmail on Ubuntu 18.04

Let's Take An Advanced Approach to setup squirrelmail rather than using package manager. Download SquirrelMail from here on the squirrelmail site. Open Terminal and navigate to Downloads: cd Downloads Unzip downloaded zip file. unzip squirrelmail-webmail-1.4.22.zip Run configure file: ./c...

Umm how is this supposed to work

Zanna

@AmithKK doesn't it?

Amith KK

@Zanna It's a php based solution

sooo it needs to be extracted under the www-root for it to be accessible?

Also additional folders need to be created so that you don't get nasty 500s when you try to upload attachments

Zanna

I have no clue whatsoever. Wasn't me who upvoted the post... maybe you should comment

RobotHumans

17:18

I'm not sure how to deal with that one @AmithKK - long time no see btw. It could be since it has been around so long, it doesn't need any more development. I mean, it's just webmail UI in php.

Amith KK

@RobotHumans Heyy yeah, long time xD

@RobotHumans I wasn't talking about the question, I was talking about the answer xD

Also I mean there's always going to be that one exploit that's waiting to happen

RobotHumans

I evened the votes up. The counter to that argument though is that when you stop adding features you stop writing bugs.

Amith KK

@RobotHumans Development stopped around ~2013

A code exec vuln was found in 2017

RobotHumans

Fair enough.

Amith KK

Which actually caused a data leak of sorts in a small business so I guess it's best to be wary

It still has that old aesthetic tho. Kinda like the theme. It's a throwback xD

Zanna

17:27

:) that's the first love poem I've seen in AUGR

RobotHumans

Heh. Used to have funny things show up all the time. Like heating a penny with a soldering iron >.>

Amith KK

This room used to be so busy at one point of time

And literally everything got starred

RobotHumans

Weren't you the one with the flashing star rainbow macro/userscript?

Amith KK

@RobotHumans I believe that was someone else

Zanna

@RobotHumans that doesn't sound very romantic

Amith KK

17:41

I think most of the people in this room have the "Outspoken" badge xD

RobotHumans

@Zanna Not romantic, but comical. Think about "Oh, god. I just told a 13 year old about superheating a quarter and tossing it in front of a vending machine... what have I done? Don't do it man. Just because we were stupid in HS doesn't mean you have to be."

Amith KK

Wasn't there a userscript that showed "x user is typing" if x also had that userscript installed?

Zanna

@RobotHumans that's evil

Amith KK

That was pretty cool. @NathanOsman made it I think

RobotHumans

@AmithKK Yeah, I think that was @NathanOsman 's

Zanna

17:42

@AmithKK haha almost certain

Amith KK

Websockets seemed like magic at the time

RobotHumans

Yeah. I'm putting websockets inside my sanic starter template now. Talking on the sanic gitter, one of the guys pointed out he even separated websocket maintenance to a separate server.

Amith KK

I've been hearing that name a lot xD

RobotHumans

From me or all around?

Amith KK

All around

RobotHumans

17:45

If from me, it's because I despise PHP and it more than fills the niche php fills now in the enterprise

Amith KK

Omg it's actually based on that fanmade parody of sonic the hedgehog

This is great

RobotHumans

It's nice. Essentially a Flask-like that requires python 3.5+. Uses await to make Flask async when you ask for it.

Amith KK

Is it based on flask

Oh it's not

That sounds useful

RobotHumans

It's not based on flask, but it's "Flask-like", so if you are used to that pattern, all you have to do is start using await.

Amith KK

No more spinning up guinicorn for small projects xD

RobotHumans

17:48

Yup.

Amith KK

I wonder if anyone has made a fork of django with the same idea

Would be nice to avoid celery for small projects as well

Zanna

celery is ok if you put peanut butter on it

Amith KK

~~:joy:~~ too used to slack style emoji

RobotHumans

Probably not, because django makes heavy use of ORM. The sort of default for sanic is asyncpg to make that part asynchronous too.

Zanna

@AmithKK renders the emoji mentally

Amith KK

17:51

Probably could make a userscript for that though

RobotHumans

The stack template I'm playing with is reactjs(because it embeds nicely and doesn't need to have a separate DNS name/server to be shoehorned in and renders client side) on top of sanic. Requires two languages, but it is a ludicrous speed button.

Amith KK

One probably exists though

@RobotHumans Somebody did try though

RobotHumans

I saw one for discord, so people didn't have to pay for custom emoji

Amith KK

Telegram and whatsapp got on the bandwagon though

There really isn't another easy way to use emoji on the desktop

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A: Understanding UNIX permissions and file types

I’ll answer your questions in three parts: file types, permissions, and use cases for the various forms of chmod. File types The first character in ls -l output represents the file type; d means it’s a directory. It can’t be set or unset, it depends on how the file was created. You can find the...

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eminfedar

18:43

Hello guys, I edited apt's source code and made the 'apt list' command like this. What do you think, do you want it in the next version?

IMG: https://image.ibb.co/fabyW8/Screenshot_from_2018_07_24_21_32_22.png

RobotHumans

I don't use apt. I use apt-get, apt-cache, and dpkg. So, not the one to ask. I think improving (and the one on the left looks better than the one on the right) for something that is slowly die-ing is wasting time personally.

eminfedar

What do you use for listing upgradeable packages? I use apt list --upgradeable, so it is practical. Do you know a better thing?

Zanna

what's slowly dying?

RobotHumans

19:00

apt is still around but hasn't been installed by default recently if memory serves

@eminfedar apt-get upgrade. it lets you say no, so list is superfluous.

Zanna

apt is most definitely installed by default

RobotHumans

sorry, i was thinking of aptitude

i just never use apt

eminfedar

@RobotHumans apt-get upgrade's list is so complicated. My eyes are hurting when I read it :)))

Zanna

apt as a command is the shiny new(er than apt-get and apt-cache) interface for APT

hmm I like aptitude because it tells you why XD

RobotHumans

@eminfedar the list is compact and not verbose. I'ld like that output you posted for your apt patch in apt-get. That would be nice. I like the output

as in, I would like that output for apt-get upgrade -v or something. it does make sense.

eminfedar

19:05

@RobotHumans Oh, that would be nice too... Why didn't I think that.

Zanna

@eminfedar very cool. would be a nice option. At the moment it relies on colour. Not so great for colour-blind folks

eminfedar

Thanks for good comments. I will write this for apt-get too with maybe additional tag like --simple or -s (I don't know if it has a usage)

Amith KK

19:23

@eminfedar It would make more sense if it were apt list -h or apt list --human-readable

I'm certain that there's atleast one script that takes action based on that command somewhere which would break if you change the format like that xD

RobotHumans

Maybe. I'm just a fan of -c --compact vs -v --verbose. -h --human-readable makes less sense to me, because in the other incarnation it is in fact readable, it just makes your eyes bleed and your brain go numb

in fact, machine readable might be a more "apt" description, since the formatting makes it easier to screenscrape

Amith KK

I don't think there's a specification for it though

Verbose just translates to 'using more words than necessary' and I mean there's no extra infomation shown, just the formatting is now clearer and easer to look at

Like du has the same -h flag for visually comparing the usage

RobotHumans

True. Either way. I was just pointing out even that as default output and the previous output being -yc for scripts would be fine as compact I'm not reading this and yes install it I don't need a list.

Amith KK

Ah

RobotHumans

It's just easier to get it in an inch at a time. If you add a command-line option that presents better output, then a bunch of people say "you know, I always add the verbose flag. we should make it the default" it's easier than "your way sucks and results in brainbleed. this is better."

Amith KK

19:38

True that

I have never seen the latter being merged in a pull req anyhow xD

RobotHumans

I'm working on friendlier PR messages really. I had 4 or so denied in large-ish projects with notes like "I fixed this particular problem" and they get denied. Then the same problem shows up 5 years later on the bug tracker.

Amith KK

"Made changes" seems more accepted

"Made changes to ensure feature x works correctly"

RobotHumans

19:57

Yes and no. When I was using git for the job, I always put fixed issue XXXX<ticket number, or added test XXXX<ticket number. So, totally appropriate. It just upsets people sometimes.

It's hard to say "Addresses bug 1234" is inappropriate.

case in point example is when i fixed pandas-datareader for edgar, and the PR got denied. the problem is still there. or fixed w3af deployment on macosx by using docker. again pr denied.

in both cases, bugs are still open.

Nathan Osman

@AmithKK you're looking for sechat.quickmediasolutions.com

Amith KK

@NathanOsman Is that particles-js for the background of the header?

Waait does it also change text emoji to their unicode counterparts?

David Foerster

20:15

Hi all!

RobotHumans

I only test on chrome. If you're using something else, I'm not sure you qualify as human ;)

David Foerster

@RobotHumans: Chrome is the only browser to implement a few deprecated web APIs… and Google uses some of them on its web sites which breaks them or makes them horribly slow on other browsers.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: problem with mounting img (loop bad super block)

I am having an odd error. I am trying to mount an img file and it is giving me an odd error. I am on my work computer. I have done the same commands on my home computer and it worked properly as expected. Both my home computer and work computer are Ubuntu 18.04 and are fully up to date. I have al...

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Q: Creating Unit Fies in Ubuntu 16.04

I have created this Unit file in /lib/systemd/system/menu-core-prices-update.service [Unit] Description = core-price-update daemon After network.target = auditd.service [Service] Type = forking ExecStart = /usr/local/bin/start-menu-core-prices-update.sh ExecStop = /usr/local/bin/stop-menu-core...

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RobotHumans

21:47

And it was a question on UL unix.stackexchange.com/questions/458226/…

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