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wisemonkey

00:15

yihao 24GB ram for my PC :D

@GeorgeEdison I like it I'm gonna save the command itself :D

George Edison

@wisemonkey What possible use would you have for it?

wisemonkey

RAM or question?

RAM -- running 6 VMs simultaneously with owncloud and mailserver running

will try Ubuntu TV as well

Question -- to play with few of my friends :D

George Edison

Oh I totally understand the need for more RAM.

I was wondering what you needed the command for.

wisemonkey

just for the times when I get annoyed with someone 3:)

ajmitch

00:56

@wisemonkey this is why I'm pricing up a new machine with 32GB of RAM, I need to run a few VMs :)

wisemonkey

aww man I got 8GB previously now couldn't take it to 32GB :-/

as in I got 2x4GB previously running at 1066MHz

ajmitch

Most I've got is 4GB in a machine at the moment

8GB in my work desktop

wisemonkey

newer ones are 2x8GB at 1260MHz but as u can see they can't utilize 1260MHz :-/

yea I had 8GB in desktop now it has 24 :D

and they are all ripjaws \m/

jrg

@wisemonkey whats your CPU?

wisemonkey

i7 3.4 2600k (OCed to 3.8)

jrg

00:59

because thats now your throttle. more than 4GB of ram would be useless for me, since I have a slower CPU.

ajmitch

@jrg as slow as my athlon 64 x2?

wisemonkey

I know I may not exactly get peak out of RAM but can't get any higher CPU right now unless I go Server

jrg

@ajmitch I've got a Intel Centrino vPro. Yeah, its probably slower

wisemonkey

o.O yea that one is slower

jrg

Well, its a 2.0GHZ Centrino, but still. ;)

wisemonkey

01:04

hmm 2004-2005?

anyways guys ciao leaving for home

jrg

2007 iirc.

@aking1012 Found my issue, if you're curious: bugs.launchpad.net/ecryptfs/+bug/561129

Questions Feed

02:38

What is the default calendar program? http://askubuntu.com/questions/124614/what-is-the-default-calendar-program?atw=1 #default

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 24, 2012 at 2:10 AM

George Edison

02:55

Looks like StackTack has been deployed to Planet Ubuntu.

Can someone whose blog is connected to Planet Ubuntu please post an article with StackTack?

Jorge Castro

whoa really?

I totally missed it

how do you know?

there it is!

@GeorgeEdison I can do it, link me up to the location of the plugin, etc.

George Edison

@JorgeCastro Do you have it set up on your blog?

Jorge Castro

I think I do

looking now

./source/_includes/custom/head.html:<script type="text/javascript" src="http://app.stacktack.com/jquery.stacktack.min.js"></script>
./source/_includes/custom/head.html:$(document).stacktack( {onlyShowAcceptedAnswer: true, site: 'askubuntu.com'} );

that look correct?

George Edison

Yup.

I found the instructions - they're here if you run into trouble.

Jorge Castro

give me all the links you want linked

from my blog post

(well, let me test it first.)

George Edison

03:10

So there are basically just three important links. This is the actual app page.. This is the WordPress plugin. The other link is the one I gave you on GitHub.

Jorge Castro

testing

stackoverflow for the data-site

should I change that to "askubuntu" or is it "askubuntu.com"?

@GeorgeEdison do you have a built hosted one that I can just replace the one on my site with?

oh boo, nothing on files.quickmediasolutions.com!

George Edison

03:32

Hmm...

I thought I did have one at one point.

@JorgeCastro Either askubuntu or askubuntu.com should work.

George Edison

03:59

I'm going to be AFK for a few minutes.

Please send me an email if you have any questions in the meantime.

Amith KK

04:52

@JorgeCastro When is the Ask Ubuntu OW Class?

Amith KK

05:14

aking1012

@jrg That's intereseting. Reserving space but not filling it(with some conditions)...a little weird, but it sounds like they count the space twice, just off-hand

Amith KK

The Ultimate School

Questions Feed

Bounty offered: Cross-platform Duplex scanner with good support in Ubuntu? http://askubuntu.com/questions/100990/cross-platform-duplex-scanner-with-good-support-in-ubuntu?atw=1 #hardwarerecommendation

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 24, 2012 at 5:10 AM

aking1012

06:18

does anyone have a better answer for this? he seems not to understand and i don't have a simpler way to explain it askubuntu.com/questions/124658/…

jokerdino

reminds me of the presentation I made a while ago.

aking1012

it's a 1 question 1 rep user, so i suspect if it's not an insta-answer it may just sit there. that's the reason i asked if someone had a better idea

Chan-Ho Suh

Well, it's a very vague set of questions

I don't know if I agree with your answer :-) At least, in relevance to the question of why Windows machines are more prone to viruses

One obvious difference is that Windows users include a lot of normal people who just click on any email attachment

aking1012

When I distilled it down, it became one question: 'How are open source softwares not exposed to viruses/any kind of internet attack?' - the answer, bugs get fixed, so there's less attack vector.
The just clicking about, possibly, but there are more and more linux users that just do that. That goes to the slightly more complex security model(you can't "turn off UAC on linux")

Amith KK

0

A: Open source -the term and clarifications on the same

Firstly, I'd like to clarify that not all FOSS software are Virus Proof The amount of viruses and bugs in a program depends on the developer and the community But, FOSS software have a better resistance to viruses in the following way Let me give you an example Closed source: X closed sourc...

le answer

Chan-Ho Suh

06:28

to make an analogy, if Ubuntu gains major marketshare, and you have a lot of users just randomly typing 'sudo whatever' into their terminals, then the development model makes little difference in the end, don't you think?

yeah definitely I agree with the bug fixing... Apple has been very bad about that

now they have that massive botnet problem

aking1012

It's a bit funny that it sprung from an MS Office on BSD-like bug

Chan-Ho Suh

oh did it?

aking1012

yes

Chan-Ho Suh

I thought it was a Java vulnerability that Apple delayed in fixing in their version

aking1012

@AmithKK I don't see how that's different from my answer, but if he understands it great

Chan-Ho Suh

06:33

I feel like these answers require sophistication on the part of the OP... sophistication which if s/he had, he wouldn't be asking this question

aking1012

@ChanHoSuh could be, but it seems like i read the other somewhere

@ChanHoSuh See the last comment, 'bugs get fixed' - I can't make it less complicated

Chan-Ho Suh

anyway, your general point is good... not the first time Apple or Microsoft has delayed a long time on something that should be easy to fix

Sometimes I wonder what's going on at those companies

aking1012

Death by weight. The bigger you get, the harder it is to be agile

Amith KK

in.element14.com/raspberry-pi/raspbrry-pcba/…

It's here

Chan-Ho Suh

although... security by obscurity has a lot going for it

aking1012

06:35

@AmithKK how is that better than the devkit8000

@ChanHoSuh only for entry level...it means people build better tools to take your stuff apart. if all software was OSS, IDA would not exist

Amith KK

@aking1012 The DevWhat?

aking1012

embedinfo.com/english/product/devkit8000.asp

Chan-Ho Suh

What's IDA?

aking1012

Interactive Disassembler Pro - it's the gorilla for software reverse engineering

Linux relevance, it supports ELF and can take apart the adobe-flash plugin ;)

Chan-Ho Suh

oh, really?!

Amith KK

06:38

@aking1012 Its only 25$

aking1012

okay, that's valid...it doesn't support as many shields though, so 6 one way half dozen the other. i take your point though and it is bookmarked. do they ship international?

Chan-Ho Suh

I thought they were sold out

aking1012

'Contact me when in stock' would certainly indicate so

victim of success/price - sold out. supply chain can eat you alive

Chan-Ho Suh

aking, what do you think of the 12.10 name?

aking1012

i don't have an opinion, it just means i know what to rename my repository extension when it goes alpha

Chan-Ho Suh

06:48

lol

aking1012

so I started playing with opennebula...really interesting. it gives me something i wanted for a long time. the ability to layout a virtual network locally in xml(in a more straight-forward way than with vbox)

Chan-Ho Suh

you have a specific application in mind for it?

aking1012

several:
mapping to be deployed networks to virtual and letting people "see it working" before it runs(opennebula supports migration to amazon)

security test lab so you can spin-up a virtual network that looks like the one you're going after

clean installs of ubuntu for answering questions here

rebuilding ubuntu ISOs with current updates in an automated fashion

for smaller networks i can use openwrt x86 builds to emulate a linksys router. for larger ones i can use a vyatta/other VM or a dynamips instance

Amith KK

07:28

@aking1012 Offtopic

aking1012

?

My answer or the question?

Amith KK

The question

@BrunoPereira --^

aking1012

It deals specifically with why not AV on Ubuntu, so it's grey imo

Amith KK

No, It doesent

He edited the question

He asks why AntiViruses have more flaws than FOSS software

aking1012

I think he asked why is using Ubuntu instead of/in conjuction with AV instead of just windows+AV

Amith KK

07:32

The question is not clear

aking1012

Then he should clarify before we gung-ho it

I tried to guess what he meant and respond

Amith KK

aking1012

I can't find the link, but there's a Stanley professor that talks about a cryptography book where the author puts embedded messages in the book if you go to the trouble of deciphering them. I thought it was awesome

hi @jokerdino

jokerdino

hi there

Amith KK

07:49

Well... I need someone with spreadsheetfu

Hey @jokerdino

Im choosing my list of classes

Now

I have classes on every Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday.

aking1012

@AmithKK I'm done with classes unless I go back for a PhD...but that's too expensive

Amith KK

And various classes take varying amounts(specified)

I need some formula or something so that I can get the classes in order

I'll Gdoc it if you want

Amith KK

08:03

nvm

@GeorgeEdison Hello

George Edison

@AmithKK Hello.

aking1012

did that openid service link wind up helping or not so much?

George Edison

@aking1012 It was a great article - in the end I ended up deciding to go with an existing OpenID provider library.

aking1012

:) - cool

Amith KK

Share Me :P

aking1012

08:17

@GeorgeEdison - I was told you might work with stackapps, so you might know who to tell about this. If you go follow the link on your own profile to %ranking and toggle from time period to time period(month to year for example) you start showing up twice. Tiny bug, but I thought someone should know.

Questions Feed

How can i disable the update prompt? http://askubuntu.com/questions/124669/how-can-i-disable-the-update-prompt?atw=1 #updates

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 24, 2012 at 8:10 AM

George Edison

@aking1012 Probably the best place for that would be meta.stackoverflow.com

aking1012

cool, it may be a feature not a bug :)

jokerdino

i think it is intended, no?

aking1012

possibly

Amith KK

08:20

BBL

jokerdino

if you log out, you won't show up more than once

3

Q: GtkIconView doesn't automatically fill the space with icon when user resizes the window

In the Ubuntu Accomplishments project we are having a few unusual bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/986708 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/974728 Namely that we have a window with a GtkNotebook and a GtkIconView on a page and another on another page. When the user re-sizes the window the...

Jorge's boss is here! haha

aking1012

I suspect it's connecting the resize callback to a window re-draw

jokerdino

@george Y U no circle 2buntu on G+??

George Edison

I already get enough in my feed already :)

And besides, there's a feedbot right here in this room.

jokerdino

I can't circle you and make you part of the 2buntu team. zzz

Alvar

09:16

I was thinking..

what happens with closed questions? do they ever get removed?

jokerdino

yeah, they get removed unless they are locked

every closed question other than dupes

Alvar

ok

was thinking of asking it at meta

but it must have been asked before..

jokerdino

hold on, i might have mistaken.

i can still see one of my closed question being around.

i am not sure now, feel free to ask it on Ask Ubuntu Meta

aking1012

it was my understanding closed as dupe get's redirected to the dupe

keeps the multi-question SEO and gets the user to a reasonable response

Amith KK

What happens if a question is the dupe of another question whose dupe is the firstly duped question?

jokerdino

09:28

it is not just the dupes, he is talking about closed questions in general

aking1012

@AmithKK it shouldn't be closed as a dupe of a dupe

@jokerdino valid question, closed as non-dupe are deleted altogether i believe, but i could be mistaken

jokerdino

@AmithKK it won't allow you to close, it will complain of a loop

@aking1012 i believe only certain closures are deleted. for example, i can still see a too localized question of mine still around.

Amith KK

Can somebody help me on a math problem?

A man completed a trip of 136km's in 8 hours.Some parts of the trip was covered at 15km/hr and the remaining at 18km/hr.Find the part of the trip that was covered at 18km/h.

Linear equations

jokerdino

Now, i don't think questions are deleted automatically. I think 10k+ rep users or mods has to delete a question manually for the question to be deleted.

Amith KK

It should be like 10k==Mod like powers 100k=Mod

aking1012

09:33

@AmithKK that sounds like homework

Amith KK

Its Summer Vacation :P

@aking1012 Nope, Its not :D

jokerdino

Sounds like a potential python program? :D

aking1012

it's a simple division and remainder problem

Amith KK

Meh

Something to do with speed and distance I suppose ;)

aking1012

divide the remainder by 3

Amith KK

09:35

136/8/3?

aking1012

no

aking1012

09:53

136/8 gives you 17 average speed. 8 hours means 18-15 == 3. 18-17 == 1. 1 from 3 is 2. you traveled at the greater speed about 2/3 of the time. 136/3/15+136/3*2/18 and account for rounding

8.059259259 hrs

@AmithKK --^

Amith KK

O.o

Thanks :D

aking1012

5.037037037 hours on 90 and 2/3 miles

why don't i have the report first bug accomplishment? this accomplishment thing must not work. it finds my launchpad, but not my bug status.

also doesn't find that i signed the ubuntu code of conduct...

jokerdino

@aking1012 it takes a while. give it time

for the bug accomplishment, is the bug confirmed?

aking1012

10:09

Top bar set to transparent toggle unexpected behavior with multimonitors

Conditions to occur: the top bar is set to transparent through MyUnity toggle to solid on maximised is selected a multi-screen configuration maximize windows on two different monitors System Info: Unity version 5.8 Compiz version 0.9.7.4 Symptom the last maximised top bar becomes solid while the other screen top bar toggles back to transparent It's really low priority, but I felt it was a counter-intuitive behaviour.

unity

Undecided / Fix Released

short answer, yes

i suspect it only accounts for 'changes' not real state of accomplishments

requiring ubuntu-one also upsets me kind of a lot

jokerdino

@aking1012 i wonder if it only looks for bugs with confirmed status.

aking1012

it was confirmed

check the bug report

jokerdino

not was but is

aking1012

then it's broken

see my i suspect accounts for changes not real state comment

jokerdino

if you have any opinions, post to the accomplishments ML

aking1012

10:15

i'm only installing it to troubleshoot this bug, i just think it's bogus. it'll be uninstalled when i'm done. i don't need validation from an app

jokerdino

ok

Amith KK

BBL

Classes

aking1012

@AmithKK i thought it was summer break so no homework???

jokerdino

you never heard about the Asian (or more specifically, Indian) parents?

aking1012

I know...I had a tiger-mother too. What I mean is that my original postulation that it was homework is correct and that I just did his homework for him

fossfreedom

10:29

hi guys.

aking1012

hi @foss

jokerdino

@aking1012 yep that's right. why do you think i sat out that question?

hey @foss

aking1012

@jokerdino you did comment that you would have had a snarkier response for me

fossfreedom

... any chance someone can look at this answer and update/correct/add to it? This is going to be our "how to install 12.04" Q&A for thursday. Thanks.

14

Q: How do I upgrade from 10.04 or 11.10 to 12.04?

I am using Ubuntu 11.10. Please outline the different ways I can upgrade to 12.04.

11.10 10.04 upgrade 12.04 release-management

jokerdino

@ajmitch started work on QQ yet?

ajmitch

10:31

no, still too much to do on precise

jokerdino

@aking1012 yeah didn't expected anyone to have read that one :P

@ajmitch SRU much?

aking1012

@fossfreedom I don't see anything you missed.

ajmitch

@jokerdino trying to rush to beat that deadline

aking1012

@jokerdino I read them all regardless of how much I disagree with them

jokerdino

@ajmitch good luck then, you (and the rest of the dev team) should need loads of those.

@aking1012 I'll just reply with a :)

@fossfreedom that answer should scare any newbies haha

fossfreedom

10:38

... I sincerely hope not :)

aking1012

it does draw attention to how much simpler 'Upgrading using the command line:
Run do-release-upgrade in a terminal
'
is

hhh

How can I use a Scanner in Ubuntu? I have tried xsane, sane but it does not detect P-150, ideas?

Related to this here.

aking1012

if it's usb, do usb passthrough to a VM until scanner drivers become more mature, or buy supported hardware

jokerdino

Close it as dupes of askubuntu.com/questions/69365/… and askubuntu.com/questions/113291/installing-gcc-4-7/117813#117813 — jokerdino 11 secs ago

@foss ^^

BBL

Questions Feed

11:35

Great answer: How can I install Adobe AIR? http://askubuntu.com/questions/87447/how-can-i-install-adobe-air/120221?atw=1#120221 #adobeair

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 24, 2012 at 11:10 AM

fossfreedom

11:49

@jokerdino - I dislike all of these "will this x be in 12.04" ... we could literally have thousands of similar Qs

however - i've reopened it with a little bit of editing. hope you dont mind.

jokerdino

I would have wanted the question to be "Why is it not in 12.04 blah blah"

and i have nothing against someone editing my post.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

12:05

0

Q: “error: no such device” at boot in Ubuntu Server 11.10 with Raid1

I have a configuration of 4 HDD's as Raid1 2 pairs of 2 HDD's. First Raid1 pair is for system, so I just made an 40GB space for swap, and the rest of it for the root, the second pair of Raid1 is for logical use. So, in final I have: First pair: Disk: 40GB swap 960GB / ext4 raid Disk: 40GB...

ubuntu server webserver software-raid raid1

I'm not this person

12:56

0

Q: Dos programs in wine

I know that dosbox is not yet integrated with wine .But whenever I double clicking on a dos program (with wine ) It just open dosbox and closes It in next moment ,why this happens? here is the terminal output tachyonsos@tachyons-desktop:~$ wine '/home/tachyonsos/Desktop/TC.EXE' DOSBox version...

wine dosbox

I'm not this person

14:21

Askubuntu lens included in usc welcome screen :) , I thought it is for paid apps only

jokerdino

@Imnotthisperson it is for featured apps. apps that are awesome.

Questions Feed

Bounty offered: Sound in web browsers messed up, videos don't play back correctly http://askubuntu.com/questions/122148/sound-in-web-browsers-messed-up-videos-dont-play-back-correctly?atw=1 #firefox

Tweeted by StackUbuntu on April 24, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Prasad

Mmm.. bros, may i ask u a question

Have anyone used a ubuntu DVD version?

Meysam رها در بند

14:45

Hey guys, is it okay to ask Mint questions here?

Jorge Castro

try unix.stackexchange.com for Mint

Meysam رها در بند

@JorgeCastro I mean, in the chat room

Jorge Castro

they have a chat room

Meysam رها در بند

they have a deserted chat room indeed

I'm not this person

@Prasad see the edit

Prasad

14:53

Sorry, what edit?

I'm not this person

1

A: Is there a wubi installer for the ubuntu DVD version?

wubi is not yet available for dvd version, and It is difficault to predict the size of ubuntu DVD before its release :) EDit: As per this page The current size of 12.04 dvd is 32 bit : 1.5 GB 64 bit : 1.6 GB Linked Question What is on the DVD Edition of Ubuntu?

Prasad

Got it!!!

What do you suggest? is it ok to download DVD or use the CD image as usual?

I'm not this person

ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#dvd

IT is your personal preference

BRb

Chipaca

Hello, all.

jokerdino

hi @Chipaca

Chipaca

15:02

Is there a way to nuke all the comments on an answer?

11

A: Ubuntu One behind a proxy, how to make it work?

As of the version 3 of the Ubuntu One client (currently in 12.04, soon to be released for Windows and backported to older Ubuntu versions), connecting through a proxy should work in most situations. In Ubuntu you need to ensure ubuntuone-client-proxy is installed (it isn’t installed by default), ...

i just edited the answer, because it went from "no, but try this patch" to "yes", and now the comments don't make sense :)

jokerdino

flags from three different users and they go off

we got two, who else is up?

Chipaca

/me pokes @JorgeCastro

fossfreedom

@Chipaca is it ok now?

jrg

@Chipaca Looks like foss got them.

Chipaca

ooooohhhhhh

jokerdino

15:04

someone ninja'ed it

Chipaca

thanks @fossfreedom

jokerdino

dear mods, give us something to do.

that was a joke. i have enough to do already

hey guys, who else wants to troll on #ubuntu in twitter on release day? :))

jrg

@jokerdino I'm already set to do that.

Prasad

Almost all of my favorite people are here!

jrg

@jokerdino so what I'm planning to do is watch #ubuntu, and then give everyone tech support via twitter, ask ubuntu and my own epicness.

jokerdino

15:09

@jrg nice one yay!

and tag it with @stackubuntu or #askubuntu.com

jrg

Only catch is that I hope we don't get swamped in flags, because then I won't have any time to do it.

jokerdino

right. i'll give you a break on release day

jrg

no, don't. flag what needs to be flagged, it'll get dealt with and thats that.

jokerdino

i am taking a break from reviewing for now.

Jorge Castro

reviewing can be tiring

I did it for like 3 hours last night

smoked

Marco Ceppi

15:41

→ 9 messages moved to Ubuntu Regulators

I'm not this person

@MarcoCeppi sorry

jokerdino

lol only jorge knows the tiresome work of the reviewer.

Stack Exchange TeX Blog: Voting Up, Voting Down

Andrew Stacey on April 22, 2012

(This is by Joseph Wright but he’s having difficulty logging in to the blog so I’m posting it for him.)

Voting is an important part of how StackExchange works. Voting for answers means that good answers are easier to identify, which is vital when you don’t know the best way to do something! Voting for questions is also important, as it helps to sort out the good questions from those that are less clear. When you are searching for help, what you want is to know that you are reading the right questions and getting the right answers. …

Anyway, good night for now. :)

Amith KK

15:59

Hello All :D

@aking1012 No, its technically not homework

Its more like preparework

@JorgeCastro You smoked the review page? Thats why it looks so uncouraging ;)

Classes as in courses

Oh, hey @jrg

jrg

@JorgeCastro Ctrl-Alt-D replaced Super-D. (in unity)

Jorge Castro

is the question up 2 date?

jrg

(I think you were asking about that... might have been someone else though)

@AmithKK Howdy

It's up-to-date.

Amith KK

16:15

0

Q: Why Doesnt Ctrl+Alt+D No longer work in unity?

Why does Ctrl+Alt+D no longer work in Unity on 12.04?

unity 12.04

jrg

@AmithKK Um... It works.

Amith KK

Fixed

jrg

Is that even a question?

Amith KK

0

Q: Why Doesnt Ctrl+Alt+D No longer work in unity?

Why does Ctrl+Alt+D no longer work in Unity on 12.04?

unity 12.04

jrg

Its a duplicate.

Amith KK

16:16

Its super D

jrg

of our wonderful shortcuts question

Amith KK

Well flag it

somebody ought to ask something like that

jrg

i can't flag, because then its like sending myself an email.

Amith KK

Oops

Deleted it

Can someone undo that

jrg

what, undo the delete?

Amith KK

16:20

Yeah

Ill Flag it

jrg

16:34

Google Drive is here.

4

Amith KK

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wKJ9KzGQq0w

@jrg The link is broken

drive.google.com/start

jrg

@AmithKK It works fine

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

0

Q: Finding files that use the most disk space

Is it possible to list the largest files on my hard drive? I frequently use df -H to display my disk usage, but this only gives the percentage full, GBs remaining, etc. I do a lot of data-intensive calculations, with a large number of small files and a very small number of very large files. Si...

linux ubuntu df

Amith KK

@jrg What

You dont get a 404?

drive.google.com/start

jrg

@AmithKK Refresh, they fixed it

Amith KK

16:48

I dont get it

jrg

What the killed feature of GDrive is this: Full Google Apps integration, etc etc etc.

It's not a dropbox replacement, its a iCloud type deal

apps use it, not the desktop.

Amith KK

Not picking sides but Microsoft's Skydrive has like 25 GB's of storage :D

Its in the YouTube Comments stream

jrg

Yeah, but they will never never never have linux support. Google might.

Amith KK

Meh

I cant remove the "I dont get it"

jrg

brb, rebooting. Then I can play with Gdrive a little bit more.

Amith KK

16:52

Its not complete yet?

It still shows Docs in the menus

jrg

I'm testing WeVideo

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