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TheWanderer

00:36

dammit, this was a 1-season show, wasn't it

although they did kind of hint at a new plot...

guiverc

00:58

forgive my idiotness - but what is OP short for (person asking questions)

Journeyman Geek

Original Poster

guiverc

Thanks @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

in our context typically the person who asked the question - but I suppose in context it can be an answer poster too

guiverc

yep - original poster makes sense here ... alas Op means to be operator (my mainframe background)

:s/to be/to me/ (typo sorry)

IanC

@TheWanderer I think @dessert summed it up pretty well, but segunda-feira ("twoday") is the second day of the week, it begins on sunday. Saturday and sunday names have a religious background I guess, sábado is related to sabbath if I'm not mistaken

TheWanderer

01:10

it's still dumb :p

and I still don't get pronouncing R as H or what the rules are

IanC

And "I'll see you two" would never be mistaken with "I see you too", because the words are completely different in portuguese

TheWanderer

@IanC that wasn't what I was thinking about

IanC

Two Rs between vowels sounds like the H sounds to americans

TheWanderer

but what about real?

or even português

I cringed when I heard how Quêm was pronounced: Queem o_O

sua linguagem é muito estranho

não estou defendendo inglês, pero...

IanC

We will always find things that don't make sense in other languages, but that are actually a bit automatic for native speakers, like why is Fraulein "Das"? @dessert :p

TheWanderer

01:15

because all German women are neuter apparently...

wait, isn't it Die Frau though?

IanC

@TheWanderer it's not an easy language for a foreigner to learn for sure, by the way, on the sentences you should write "estranha" (matching the gender of 'lingua') and "mas" instead of "pero"

TheWanderer

wait, is linguagem tongue? lol

IanC

I think it's das because it ends with "lein"

TheWanderer

also, give me a break. I've got a headache :p

EEEEEEEEEEEEHH

IanC

Hahaha, you wrote it well! Just pointing it out :p

@dessert were you in Brazil?

TheWanderer

01:18

(did you get the reference)

@IanC can you tell me when I should use minho/a and meu?

because Duolingo doesn't seem to distinguish

IanC

I think I didn't, what cartoon is it from?

TheWanderer

Rabbit's Kin

it's a Bugs Bunny

it's on Dailymotion. Go watch it

IanC

@TheWanderer "minho" don't exist, "minha" sort of the feminin form of "meu"

TheWanderer

ohhhh

so meu is masculine and minha is femine

IanC

Like, "meu carro" (my car), "minha carteira" (my wallet)

TheWanderer

01:22

that makes no sense, but OK

IanC

There are tons of things I don't think make sense in portuguese, but that's actually not in my list :p

TheWanderer

but why are they completely different words?

IanC

Probably because "mea" sounds weird haha

TheWanderer

but why not minho/a?

and mea is just straight up Latin :p

IanC

Or maybe it started as "mea" a long time ago, and it kind of morphed into "minha", which doesn't sound compleeeetely different

TheWanderer

01:26

minha probably came from mia (Spanish/Italian)

that's why I thought minho existed

does that mean "my" and "mine" are the same?

IanC

Yeah

The plural adds a 's', "são todos meus" (are all mine)

TheWanderer

huh

that's something I do like about Portuguese

it simplifies a lot of little things

do, da, dele, dela

no, na, neste, nesta, naquele, daquele, etc

IanC

Then overly complicates much more other things haha

TheWanderer

conjugation is weird in Portuguese..

IanC

But to be honest, most languages are a bit complicated, English is one of the only ones that is generally simply

TheWanderer

01:31

uh huh

English is not simple

IanC

And even English has it tricky parts

TheWanderer

I like Spanish because even the exceptions follow rules

IanC

It's the simplest language I know :p

TheWanderer

In English, the "rules" are the exceptions

IanC

I think mandarin is one of the hardest I've heard of

Not sure about its grammar, maybe it's the only easy part of the language, but pronuntiation and writing, quite hard

You say a word slightly different and you call a persons mother a horse

TheWanderer

01:36

yup

MeHow

guys!

if I delete the current kernel via "sudo apt-get purge unname -r" will ubuntu automatically use the previous kernel when restarted?

TheWanderer

if you have one installed, yes, I think so

MeHow

kk ill try

Seth

01:53

huh, I didn't know Valve was started in Washington.

TheWanderer

haha

you're stuck with it

MeHow

02:06

I dont get it why kernel 4.4.0-116 doesnt work with nvidia

?

Nathan Osman

02:21

Look what someone found: google.nl/search?q=%22DB_PASSWORD%22+filetype%3Aenv

/facepalm

TheWanderer

ah Nigeria webcache.googleusercontent.com/…

The Returning Pencil

03:12

Hello again my friends! :)

Nathan Osman

03:23

The pencil returns.

The Returning Pencil

Yes I do :D

How's Nitroshare @NathanOsman?

Nathan Osman

Still working on it :D

The new (unreleased) version is a lot more stable than before.

It's still a work-in-progress but it's usable now.

The Returning Pencil

ah

I see you ported it to Android as well

iOS when?

@NathanOsman Typo detected (sorry for ping)

Nathan Osman

iOS is a long ways off.

The Returning Pencil

"Enable the alternate dark THEM instead of the standard light theme"

nitroshare-android

Nathan Osman

03:31

I want to get a library for NitroShare written in Swift before working on the app.

The Returning Pencil

ooh

Nathan Osman

(Which is really what I should have done with Android.)

The Returning Pencil

Looking forward to that!

Nathan Osman

@TheReturningPencil Good catch.

The Returning Pencil

XD

Like, 10 seconds into downloading it and typo detected

Nathan Osman

03:33

I just recently added support for sending files from SD cards and USB OTG drives connected to the device.

The Returning Pencil

Ah

Want me to make an issue, or an pull request?

Nathan Osman

Sure, if you want to.

The Returning Pencil

(Regarding the typo)

Ok

Nathan Osman

This is the file with the strings: github.com/nitroshare/nitroshare-android/blob/master/app/src/…

The Returning Pencil

Alright.

I've been recently making an Discord Bot (well, starting) coded in Node.

Alright, sent the pull request.

Nathan Osman

03:38

Merged.

The Returning Pencil

Tyvm :)

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dessert

07:57

@IanC Because the diminuitive suffix -lein is generally neuter, the same way as -ção is generally feminine. It's important to distinguish genus (grammatical gender) from sexus (natural gender) – the two may often match, but they are not the same.

@TheWanderer think about “mother tongue”, where the same link between language and tongue is established

@IanC As an exchange student in Campina Grande (Paraíba), yes. :)

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user9303970

18:16

I need to report the following bug I described in server fault but I find no direct way to do so. Where do one just submit a report of a bug?...

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Q: Copy-paste into DigitalOcean-modified Ubuntu-Bash includes dots instead tabulations

I use Windows 10 home (build 16299.248) and I'm SSHing into a remote Ubuntu 16.04 machine with Putty/MobaXterm. The following problem happens with both these SSH clients so none of them is to be blamed. I copy-paste the following code from my personal GitHub account into an SSH session: cat <<-...

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@dessert

The findings might surprise you after all the shit I went through with this...

@ThomasWard @karel

dessert

@user9303970 Er, so it's a bug in DigitalOcean?

and you're asking how to report a bug in DigitalOcean?

user9303970

No,

The problem happens in Linode as well.

It is most likely a Ubuntu issue.

dessert

but the answer you accepted says otherwise

confused oO

user9303970

Yes, I updated the question afterwards, I'll unaccept.

dessert

well first you should determine where the bug actually is

user9303970

18:22

It's in Ubuntu Bash. I cannot say further sadly.

dessert

for the Ubuntu bash package there's bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash

the upstream package GNU bash and has a separate support page here: savannah.gnu.org/support/?group=bash

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Q: How do I report a bug?

I found a problem with an application on Ubuntu. Questions : How do I best report the issue? What sort of information should I provide?

bug-reporting

please read this first and follow the guidelines there

user9303970

Yes I read in that page but didn't quite understand where to actually post the bug report.

Thanks @dessert

dessert

@user9303970 ubuntu-bug determines that automatically for you I guess

(never used it)

@user9303970 you're really determined to resolve this issue – kudos!

@user9303970 but first, please test with a different shell, e.g. /bin/dash – if it happens there as well, then it's not the shell!

ssh -t user@host "/bin/dash -l" should do the trick

also test other shells if possible of course

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Q: What are the things removed to make Linux Mint lightweight from Ubuntu?

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Thomas Ward

19:06

@dessert Yes it does it automatically

ubuntu-bug will only file against the package on Launchpad.

any further upstreaming after that is going to be its own 'issues' that need to be separately filed upstream of that at developers (but in most cases that won't need to be done)

dessert

19:17

@ThomasWard thanks for clarifying :)

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IanC

20:18

@dessert -ção can be masculine too, like "o coração". And you're right, it's just that in german the genus and sexus differ way more often than in portuguese :p

@dessert a bit further south than where I live, I still haven't met Paraíba, but want to go there some time

heard the waves are very good further south :)

good evening folks!

dessert

20:40

@IanC it's “meet so.”, but “visit sth.” AFAIK ;)

@IanC that's why I wrote “generally” – no rule without exceptions

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IanC

@dessert it's just because I never heard of that rule, I can think of many words that break it (rather common ones). But as a last resort, I think it's ok relying on it :p

dessert

@IanC that's the evry nature of such a rule I'd say :D

IanC

oh, never mind, I was thinking of -ão not -ção

still can think of some words that would break the rule, but fewer I guess

dessert

@IanC my host family laughed hard at me when I once asked “Qual é sua problema?” ;)

IanC

20:47

hahaha, knowing a little bit of german I can understand your reasoning

dessert

@IanC it's just that -ção goes back to Latin -tion, an the “ti” part is commonly used around indo-european languages and – surprise surprise – mostly feminine

IanC

Genitiv is related to the word being possessed, not the possesser right?

wait, nevermind again

it's the same in portuguese, you just missed the gender of "problema"

most words ending in "a" are feminin, but not this one

dessert

exactly

IanC

it's like "karma"

dessert

because it goes back to Greek, not Latin (as usually)

IanC

20:50

which is not a good example because it's a foreign word, but if you use in a phrase you use masculine

I need to review some portuguese grammar myself

dessert

interesting! do you perceive “o problema” as a foreign word?

IanC

no, I meant "karma" :p

which actually is written "carma" in portuguese, I'm not sure but I think it's a "estrangeirismo" (Xenismus)

but I might be wrong

dessert

@IanC “Xenismus” is a word nobody without a degree in linguistics understands :) “Fremdwort” is more common.

IanC

@dessert oh, I just looked what Wikipedia was calling it in german haha

man, my german is probably so rusted right now

Dɑvïd

Isn't this a duplicate? — Dɑvïd 2 mins ago

^^^ People-with-rep (i.e., not me) might like to take a look at that one.

Thomas Ward

21:17

@Dɑvïd or you could be patient like everyone else and let it be reviewed via the Review Queue like every other "possible duplicate" voted question :P

Dɑvïd

@ThomasWard Yeah - sorry about that! I'm not used to not seeing the close-vote thing I get on SE sites where I have more rep. Got twitchy. It won't happen again. ;)

Thomas Ward

was just a passing thought :)

nothing wrong with asking us to look :P

Dɑvïd

And my sense is that AskUbuntu is a bit more dupe-tolerant than some anyway. I'm sure the right thing will be done!

Thomas Ward

@Dɑvïd we get a lot of duplicate posts. We're pretty harsh on exact duplicates. I'm just too lazy to go look at it :)

dessert

22:07

@Dɑvïd dupe-tolerant? AU? :D go look at Unix & Linux…

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

22:28

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Q: Can I run Ubuntu or Fedora from USB instead of installing it and use it normally?

Can I run Ubuntu or Fedora from USB and use it normally instead of installing it? Will it act the same? Will I be able to work and use it like this installed one?

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dessert

22:39

Die Ärzte "3-Tage-Bart"

►

Here's some German culture for you guys, they sing about the need for stubbles which make you hot.

Seth

23:36

@TheWanderer man, I still type @za and then go oh wait no. Anyway, I cant see to install fdroid on Lineage. When I tap the apk nothing happens. I can't find the setting for unknown sources anywhere in the settings either. Any idea what's up?

TheWanderer

uh

I think it's under Security

Seth

@TheWanderer it's not there. tried searching too

TheWanderer

What version?

Seth

15.1

TheWanderer

I think Oreo has is under DevOps

Seth

23:45

@TheWanderer looked there too, didn't see it :/

although there are like 50 options in devops so maybe I missed it

looked twice

TheWanderer

oh god

it's been modularized per-app

Settings >> Apps & Notifications >> Special app access >> Install unknown apps

Seth

@TheWanderer haha! Thanks. That worked!

TheWanderer

@Seth is this an official LOS build?

Seth

@TheWanderer I think so? I downloaded it from their website

TheWanderer

OK

the lack of popup is an LOS bug

should report it

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