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Marco Ceppi

19:01

@StefanoPalazzo Well Micheal is actually a Unix/Linux mod. I was asking if he wanted the question and he decided to instead clean it up.

So we backed off when we saw how defensive the user got

Jorge Castro

I don't even get the question

you plug something it, it mounts

Stefano Palazzo

it seems to be about how linux is awesome and windows isn't

Marco Ceppi

@JorgeCastro This edit probably makes more sense

askubuntu.com/revisions/6e4ae5bd-48a4-40df-98be-9fd9cb94a321/…

Stefano Palazzo

I tought that @MichaelMrozek might not be a newbie when I saw the second revision (:

Marco Ceppi

Michael Mrozek ♦, Indiana, US

7.6k 1 17 38

TheX

19:06

is it not just terminology? I mean to the user it is the exact same thing.. maybe a different process, but same end results?

Stefano Palazzo

I want to roll back to his rev, but I won't now. for fear of starting an edit war

is that sensible?

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo Yes and No. You can roll it back and I can lock it from editing. He's just wrong and really offensive

Should have read the FAQ

askubuntu.com/faq#editing

Stefano Palazzo

let's do that then, I think that'll give everybody a better chance of a good answer

TheX

He is from Indiana, Hoosiers are crazy, I know< spend the first 23 years of my lif ethere

Stefano Palazzo

0

Q: What advantages does the UNIX mounting system have over Windows?

I was reading in this question what it means to "mount" something. Why does UNIX use the concept of "mounting" when Windows doesn't? Is there an advantage to the UNIX way versus the Windows way?

windows filesystem mount unix

DoR

19:10

@StefanoPalazzo LOL he already edited it again!

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo I think he's figuring it out based on the comment war.

Stefano Palazzo

ugh...

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo Just favorite and come back in a few hours. He's obviously not certain on how he wants to approach this question

Stefano Palazzo

yeah @DoR @Marco. But his last edit is actually pretty sensible

Marco Ceppi

If 2 more people edit it though it'll become a CW! :D

Stefano Palazzo

19:12

I'd be happy if you locked it now. It explicitly asks about the technical differences, so that's okay

Marco Ceppi

@StefanoPalazzo I'm not going to do anything of the sorts yet. I think it's working itself out. ( I think this is probably the best use case for comments to be honest )

Meta discussion of an answer or question

Stefano Palazzo

@MarcoCeppi ← I'm going to do this then :)

TheX

@MarcoCeppi I think you should roll it back to the source, and let them start over again...

DoR

lol

Marco Ceppi

@TheX Why don't I just delete both their accounts and questions? That will fix EVERYTHING! :D

DoR

19:14

@MarcoCeppi +1

TheX

@MarcoCeppi that would be effective too

Marco Ceppi

Judging by his latest comment he figured out Micheals original intent

Stefano Palazzo

this new internet thing is nothing but trouble

:P

TheX

not sure they wold agree though....

@StefanoPalazzo I agree...

Sid

If you want to have a good laugh, watch this movie clip from my country!

►

Rajinikanth > Chuck Norris :P

Marco Ceppi

19:22

Is this like Blade meets iRobot meets Matrix?

Sid

@MarcoCeppi Bigger than that! :P

Stefano Palazzo

+1 for indian film

Marco Ceppi

Please tell me this movie is dubbed. I so want to watch it.

Sid

@MarcoCeppi It is available!

In 3D too.

Marco Ceppi

@Sid I see some inconsistencies

The amount of Robots available seems to change and grow as forms get more extensive

Sid

19:28

@MarcoCeppi You don't question what Rajinikanth does! :P

Marco Ceppi

Is he wearing Heelys!?

Sid

He doesn't need 'em.

Marco Ceppi

It looked like he was wearing them at the end

BTW, You didn't warn me that was going to be a spoiler. Now I don't want to watch the movie :P

Sid

Hahaha :D He has made over 200 movies I guess.

Rajinikanth

Rajinikanth (; born Shivaji Rao Gaekwad on December 12, 1949) is an Indian film actor, media personality, and cultural icon who has primarily acted in Tamil, Telugu and Kannada films. He made his debut as an actor in Apoorva Raagangal (1975), a Tamil film directed by K. Balachander, whom the actor considers his mentor. He then worked in Tamil cinema often portraying antagonistic characters and gradually rose to acting in lead roles. Other than acting, Rajinikanth also worked as a producer and screenwriter. Apart from his film career, he is also a philanthropist, spiritualist and serves a...

Mussnoon

Can I ask something about a question of mine over here?

Stefano Palazzo

19:42

@Mussnoon of course!

TheX

dkljsf

Mussnoon

It's about this: askubuntu.com/q/23750/4152

TheX

^random key moment for the day

Mussnoon

There were 2 close votes earlier, which I think might've been justified, but then I fixed it (I think) but there was an additional close vote after that.

Is there something else wrong with it that I can fix?

TheX

@Mussnoon umm yeah... you can know that the only difference is the wording...

Stefano Palazzo

19:45

@Mussnoon your question is okay as it is now. But the answers aren't very good, this might have lead someone to cast a vote. No idea. Also, people don't like it when two people edit heavily and undo each others edits.

Mussnoon

Hmm...

Stefano Palazzo

When you ask questions in the future, make sure your question is phrased such that it has one correct answer, this is the easiest way to avoid asking a subjective question. But as I said, it's okay as it is.

TheX

yeah we only like facts here, not subjectivity :-D

Mussnoon

Thanks. I do usually try. I guess I should've tried harder this time. I got carried away with the suggestion made in the other question.

TheX

opinions are like arm pits, everyone has two, and they all stink...

Stefano Palazzo

19:47

the occasional good subjective question is very welcome too :)

Marco Ceppi

@Mussnoon If a question does get closed and you feel it to be incorrect you can open a topic about it on our meta or cast a vote to have it reopened.

TheX

@MarcoCeppi you can reopen closed topics?

Mussnoon

Yeah...but I thought I'd rather prevent it by fixing it instead. Seems to be a smarter thing to do.

Stefano Palazzo

@TheX at 3000 rep you can cast close and re-open votes

Marco Ceppi

@TheX Yes! If there's anything to take away from the SE engine rarely anything is permanent.

TheX

19:49

@StefanoPalazzo I see

@MarcoCeppi I have never noticed that before

i mean the "reopen" option

Marco Ceppi

@TheX askubuntu.com/privileges/close-questions

TheX

@MarcoCeppi why does everyone refer me to that like every 3 mins? :-P

you would think I would have it memorized by now

lazyPower

rubs the idle sleep from his eyes

Mussnoon

Urgh...backspace

I'll get going now. Thanks @MarcoCeppi and @StefanoPalazzo for the clarification.

lazyPower

@MarcoCeppi @StefanoPalazzo :) Hey guys

Stefano Palazzo

19:54

morning @lazyPower

lazyPower

@TheX, @DoR, konichiwa

TheX

@lazyPower hello.

Stefano Palazzo

@Mussnoon sure! make sure to come and ask here whenever you're not sure about something, we always appreciate it

Sid

What is the difference between: "Is I yam what I yam? [closed]" and a question that disappears?

TheX

@Sid what?

Jorge Castro

19:56

0

Q: I have a computer...

that rocks my socks! What is the best way to install Ubuntu on it without removing Winders?

dual-boot

dude

...

TheX

anyone live in egypt?

Sid

Some questions that are closed, have a [closed] label appended for a while before the disappear and some disappear all of a sudden.

TheX

@JorgeCastro okay okay I will delete it...

Sid

@TheX That was sucky! :P

TheX

it is gone

or will be in the near future

Sid

19:59

I wonder what riots are like!

Tunisia, now Egypt...

TheX

@Sid me too...

the closest thing I have ever seen to a riot, is two kids fighting in the hallway at school...

the Government is going to sqaush those little peons anyways... just like China did in the 90's

Sid

I saw a decapitation when I was 15.

It was shocking!

TheX

@Sid really?

Sid

Yes, while going to school. 9am-ish.

Gang war.

Stefano Palazzo

print '\n'.join(i + "\n" + i for i in (
    'x\x9cSP\x80\x00m \x802\x15\xb8\x10B\x08a.\x141'
    '\xa8(\x17\xaa\x18D\x14&\x083\x14Y\x10A\xc2\x04\xc1J'
    '\x94\x95\xa1$\x01A\x84\x99\xc8\x82(\xd6\x93*\x08w)'
    '\x92\x99PG\x82\x05@\x18\x00O\x1b)\x05').decode("zip").replace(
    " ", u"\33[1m\u2588\u2588\u2588\33[m").replace("+",
    u"\33[1;%dm\u2588\u2588\u2588\33[m" % 31).replace("#",
    u"\33[0;30m\u2588\u2588\u2588\33[m").split("\n"))

just for fun (:

TheX

20:05

@Sid that must have been gruesome...

where do/did you live?

Sid

Yes, it was gruesome. I live in Bangalore.

TheX

Oh India :D

Sid

Yes, gangsters in Bangalore don't use guns, unlike gangsters in the rest of the country: they use machetes.

TheX

Yeah...

Sid

Is today kernel panic day at Ask Ubuntu!

TheX

20:11

@Sid lol

@Sid what is it like living in a big city?

Sid

@TheX It's nice! I miss the beach though. Only thing Bangalore doesn't have is a beach.

TheX

yeah i live in a town of about ~1000 people...

Sid

My school had 2300 children! :D

65 kids/class

TheX

hmm... sorry it isn't even considered a town according to american standards.... it is a village...

Sid

Name?

TheX

20:16

Sheffield, Illinois

Sheffield is a village in Bureau County, Illinois, United States. The population was 946 at the 2000 census. It is part of the Ottawa–Streator Micropolitan Statistical Area. Sheffield was founded by Joseph E. Sheffield and Henry Farnam in 1852. Sheffield and Farnam constructed the Chicago and Rock Island Railroad, and the town site was intended as a coaling station for trains. According to Farnam, he and Sheffield flipped a coin to see for whom the town would be named.[http://www.sheffieldillinois.us/ Sheffield, Illinois Official Site] A monument to Joseph E. Sheffield, and the ...

Sid

My sister lives in Chicago!

TheX

Chicago is fun :-D

Sid

UIC

TheX

I have only been there a few times...

Sid

Oh!

I'd love to be there in 2013.

TheX

20:18

if you ever make it, let me know, we will go out for coffee or something :-D

meet somewhere in the burbs or something

that would be cool

Sid

Indeed.

TheX

I love meeting new people, especially if they are from different cultures then myself...:-D

Sid

Me too. There are many at my office. It is a wonderful experience. It busts stereotypes!

TheX

yeah that is one of the bad things about living in "small town USA"

everyone is white Caucasians for the most part

Sid

That is a bad thing about living in "small town anywhere". There's always a sense of false superiority.

Do you work at Sheffield too?

TheX

20:24

No...

lazyPower

@Sid very true. abouto the false sense of superiority

TheX

I work in another town, even smaller then Sheffield...

IT at the HS...

but the town is the center of the district...

Sid

@lazyPower: Yes, I had that until I started working in a multicultural environment. I then realized that we are all humans who love their families.

lazyPower

@Sid humanity can be a wonderful thing

TheX

well most love their famlies anyways

Sid

20:27

@TheX In India almost everybody does. Family ties and marriages here are unbreakable. I hardly know anyone who has gotten divorced.

lazyPower

@StefanoPalazzo whoa, nice string

TheX

@Sid believe me I wish the same was true here

or everywhere as far as that goes

Sid

@TheX I fail to understand how marriages fail in USA! That's out-of-the-world for us.

TheX

Yeah... and usually the reasons are stupid

whoops lol

Sid

Haha.

That was quick!

TheX

20:32

lol

So... like I love my wife dearly... But I can't stand waking up next to her in bed... so we made a comprimise...

she gets up and out of bed first...

Sid

What!?

TheX

okaaaaay that was a joke, I just hate getting out of bed

Sid

The main idea of "Inception": if you run a VM inside a VM inside a VM inside a VM, everything will be very slow

Tweeted by myzt on January 5, 2011 at 12:34 PM

TheX

@Sid I was just joking

htorque

lol

Sid

20:34

@TheX When aren't you? :P

Sheffield, IL looks beautiful on Google Earth.

htorque

dude, the unity q+a at "ubuntu user days" is at 4am my time - on a saturday! :..(

Sid

@htorque Caffiene!

TheX

@Sid you never know... you gotta wacth me...

Jorge Castro

@htorque it's ok you know everything already

htorque

:D

TheX

20:37

@Sid what do you mean it looks beautfiul?

Sid

@TheX: I meant that it looks good!

TheX

no i thought there might have been a particular feature that you liked... like the nuclear waste dump... or something...

Sid

I couldn't attend Ubuntu Dev Day at Bangalore! Work! Aaaargh!

@TheX I didn't spend too much time! :P

TheX

@Sid oh okay...

it is better that you don't, you might get cancer :=P or grow an extra eyeball :-P

Sid

Jeez! Sheffield IL is one of the sites of the 6 nuclear waste dumps in the USA! And another is just 40 miles away! Doesn't that scare you?

TheX

20:41

supposedly the water table flows west, into the other town beside us....

and the dump is on the west side of town...

so they say there is nothing to worry about.... for us...

Sid

Some relief!

heh

TheX

that is what the experts say, so I have to go with it...

Sid

All German nuclear plants are scheduled to be shut down by 2020.

TheX

and hopefully they are right

Marco Ceppi

I think I'll write a clone of this web chat in php/MySQL

Sid

20:45

It's worrisome that my country has signed a Nuclear deal with some US firms. They have signed a "no liability clause" : If they screw up: we'll be screwed for decades!

@MarcoCeppi Is this FOSS?

TheX

@MarcoCeppi don't forget the awesome content :D

Jorge Castro

reviewed Pithos in Ubuntu: ★★★★☆ My favorite pandora app for Ubuntu

Tweeted by castrojo on January 28, 2011 at 8:43 PM

woo hoo!

my first review!

TheX

@Sid the reason why they pick places like Sheffield for this type of stuff, is because of the low potential for the loss of life if when there are to be problems :-(

Sid

Natty is gonna rock!

TheX

@JorgeCastro congrats! someone get him a virtual beer

@Sid you running natty?

Sid

20:47

@TheX On my "testing partition".

TheX

@Sid yeah me too

Sid

sda1: Ubuntu sda2: Ubuntu sda3: Debian sda5:Arch sda6:Windows7

Only Mac on Mac. :P

TheX

macs are dangerous machines...

Sid

They just work!

Marco Ceppi

@Sid Yes, will be.

TheX

20:53

@Sid... no just a second and I will show you

Sid

Does anyone here use Amazon VOD?

TheX

@Sid no but i have some free credit I got for buying a movie from them

never used it though

Sid

Oh!

Netflix don't want to support Linux!

TheX

@Sid they are so dangerous they make you agree not to make nuclear bombs with itunes...

Marco Ceppi

@Sid yeah, they use Microsofts DRM in Silverlight.

TheX

20:55

gigaom.com/apple/do-not-use-itunes-to-make-bombs

@Sid yeah the netflix thing is one of the only reasons I keep windows on my home computer

Sid

@MarcoCeppi That's sad!

@TheX Jeez! iTunes and nuclear/biological bombs!

I have no idea if I've sold myself to someone! I never read License Terms!

:P

TheX

@Sid you should be careful....

@Sid you should get a lawyer before installing any software...

Sid

@TheX My dad is. :P

TheX

so have him read it...???

Sid

No!

They can't sue no one in India.

TheX

21:00

because your soul is a pretty big price to pay someone to use a bit of software they spend 5 minutes to write...

well time to go home

Sid

@TheX Have a happy weekend!

Starting this year, no American will be forbidden from serving the country they love because of who they love. #SOTU

Tweeted by BarackObama on January 26, 2011 at 3:06 AM

@MarcoCeppi 9 hour commute home? Whoa!

Marco Ceppi

@Sid Yeah, DC got snowed on a few days ago. Shut down the city and surrounding metropolitan area.

The sad part is: I live 9 miles away.

Sid

I've never seen snow in my two decades on earth!

Marco Ceppi

@Sid I'm sorry :(

Jorge Castro

it's fun for about 10 minutes

then you hate it

actually, as a kid it was a bunch of fun

Sid

21:12

@JorgeCastro Oh! I thought it was loadsa fun: thanks to movies for keeping it real! :)

We need to find a way to bring thousands of users from facebook.com/ubuntulinux

to Ask Ubuntu.

A question is asked there every 5 minutes (approx).

Ask Ubuntu

@askubuntu

0 tweets, 2 followers, following 0 users

Weird!

Ask Ubuntu

@Ask_Ubuntu

The Ask Ubuntu twitter helps the world receive Ubuntu related answers from Ubuntu-related questions from askubuntu.com

0 tweets, 2 followers, following 0 users

Both have 2 followers.

@JorgeCastro Doesn't AskUbuntu have a twitter account?

Jorge Castro

Ubuntu StackExchange

@StackUbuntu, The Stack Exchange network

237 tweets, 190 followers, following 3 users

Sid

Oh! It'd be cool if it was /askubuntu

Marco Ceppi

Ubuntu StackExchange

@ubuntuexchange, StackExchange Network

Ubuntu StackExchange twitter is designed to help users receive answers to Ubuntu Related questions using the Ubuntu StackExchange website

61 tweets, 13 followers, following 8 users

Sid

Aaaaaaaaaaargh! Which one is real? :P

Marco Ceppi

That was the one from BETA

Sid

21:22

Oh!

Marco Ceppi

It's the twitter account I used for this experiment:

5

Q: Should we target Social Media?

Update This project as been added to GitHub the current planning board is on PivotalTracker With the recent addition of this question: Gwibber and OAuthcalypse I began realizing an opportunity to help spread Ubuntu StackExchange. I began monitoring Twitter and replying to users complaining ab...

discussion feature-request promote

Sid

@MarcoCeppi Neat!

@MarcoCeppi What's up with chromify-osd?

Marco Ceppi

@Sid Google's still hasn't replied to my email :(

Sid

Beautiful!

Marco Ceppi

@Sid You can still install it. It's better now because it includes the speakers avatar in the left side

Sid

21:34

@MarcoCeppi Wow! And how much is the fee to get an extension into chrome/extensions

?

Marco Ceppi

@Sid $5

the problem is - it needs to be reviewed by Google before acceptance into the store due to the fact it includes an NPAPI

Sid

Oh! Security risk?

Marco Ceppi

> Because of the additional security risks NPAPI poses to users, extensions that use it will require manual review before being accepted in the extension gallery.

code.google.com/chrome/extensions/npapi.html

NPAPI is the only way to get an extension to communicate with something like libnotify

Sid

Oh!

"NPAPI is a really big hammer that should only be used when no other approach will work."

:)

Marco Ceppi

Right, in this case no other approach would work to get libnotify to appear at all

Sid

21:38

"If your plugin contains a vulnerability, an attacker might be able to exploit that vulnerability to install malicious software on the user's machine."

Scary!

Fedora's repos were compromised a few days earlier.

Marco Ceppi

Well this code is very straight forward. "Take in message, header, image. Post to libnotify"

It's also available on LP: launchpad.net/chromify-osd

TheX

hi

Sid

@MarcoCeppi Yeah! We can see if you and George do something evil.

@TheX Go home! :P

TheX

@Sid I am home

Sid

@TheX That was fast!

TheX

21:41

12 mins

Sid

Whoa! You're so lucky!

TheX

that is what happens when you grow wings because of the nuclear radiation....

Sid

RedBull has been banned in Germany (?)

It contains traces of coconut.

TheX

it should be banned from everywhere, red bulls kill people all over the place, not just germany

Sid

I just got a badge!

"Strunk & White"

htorque

21:44

next stop: 600 edits ;)

Sid

Jorge is the King of Editing.

Badges/Reputation don't fascinate me. :)

Oli has won "Tumbleweed"! How?

:)

0

Q: Is it possible to store documents in Ubuntu One and edit them online?

Microsoft Office Web Apps has SkyDrive; Google Docs also has storage. Is it possible to store documents in Ubuntu One and edit them online from there?

ubuntu-one cloud office

Roland Taylor

no it's not possible and no I won't answer that question (or anything else ubuntu one related) - the ninjas don't like that :P

Sid

@RolandTaylor But watermelon-rolling cats do! :'(

Roland Taylor

@Sid :P k I'll answer it :P

Sid

@RolandTaylor Downvotes! :P

Hahah

Roland Taylor

21:55

O.O

but my answer was ridiculous enough to upvote D:

Sid

A few days earlier someone was downvoting my answers from 300 years ago!

Roland Taylor

yeah that happens to me sometimes too

someone finds my ancient answerfacts and downvotes hordes of them

to prevent the rise of my ancient askubuntu army

Sid

lol

Jorge Castro

maybe you should work on the quality of your answers. :p

Sid

:P

TheX

21:58

@RolandTaylor hey

Roland Taylor

haha

Sid

It's weird when someone downvotes answers which others have heavily upvoted.

Roland Taylor

@TheX hola senor

@Sid exactly :) - especially old answers

TheX

@RolandTaylor hows it going?

Roland Taylor

@TheX hiding from real life in here :P

Sid

21:59

Barbados!

Roland Taylor

@Sid personally I think there should be a penalty for downvoting geriatric answers :D

TheX

@RolandTaylor I do that too

Roland Taylor

Mars!

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