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RobotHumans

00:03

There's a commander keen joke to be made on your wine users starred post @Oli ... that said, have another star.

Fabby

00:35

Successful First Ungraceful DR Test in the USA!

(and who had to do that: yes, the German guy...)

:D :D :D

I need a drink!!!

Nathan Osman

Sounds like we'll get a white Christmas this year.

Arctic air is on its way for the weekend.

Fabby

On the 25th of December? In Canada?? And you're surprised???

0:-) 0:-) 0:-)

Good for you! Looks like we're going to get the usual rain here!

Nathan Osman

01:02

This... needs refactoring.

That's an awfully large function.

IanC

@NathanOsman do we have a Guinness Record? :D

TheWanderer

oh that's nothing

Nathan Osman

Uh-oh...

TheWanderer

github.com/aosp-mirror/platform_frameworks_base/blob/master/…

Nathan Osman

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@TheWanderer gift idea ---^

TheWanderer

01:07

yike

Nathan Osman

:D

Teach your kids at an early age :P

"Because where there's smoke, there's fun!"

TheWanderer

I don't think you should be having kids >_>

Nathan Osman

On a completely (unrelated) note - I actually started a fire with my first electricity kit when I was about 8 years old.

Seth

Iridium-4 Webcast

►

Nathan Osman

Oooh! A launch.

How timely.

Fire and explosions.

:P

TheWanderer

01:10

yeesh

Seth

I can't believe we're at a period in time where watching (live) a private company put a satellite in space and land the rocket is commonplace.

TheWanderer

don't encourage him @Seth

Seth

Like, I don't even care anymore, all the time.

Nathan Osman

"I was still alive when we used the space shuttle."

Fabby

@NathanOsman Respect! I made my first explosion when I was 14...

Nathan Osman

01:11

It was a very small fire, to be fair. But it was a flame, nonetheless.

And I was not allowed to play with the kit unsupervised after that.

Fabby

:D :thumbsup: :D

shutting down Windows (work) laptop and switching to Ubuntu...

Seth

How many satellites did he say that thing was carrying?!

TheWanderer

people in action shows are so bad at shooting, but only when it advances the plot

Nathan Osman

The audio is so quiet, I can't hear :|

Seth

awww, no recovery :(

@NathanOsman Plenty loud for me?

Nathan Osman

01:16

Weird.

I mean - I can turn the system audio up but then everything else is too loud.

Fabby

Shutting down Windows took longer then booting Ubuntu...

Seth

@Fabby I can do a full reboot of Ubuntu in the average time it takes my Windows 10 machine to shutdown.

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Fabby

@Seth Starred!µ

IanC

@Seth I heard 10 sattelites

Seth

@IanC That's what I heard too! O_O

IanC

01:21

there are probably those "amateur" sattelites, that are much smaller in size

Nathan Osman

@Seth ...and ...and Arch is even faster :P

IanC

I think I read you can get a "ticket" to get a really small one up from 250000 dollars to a mil

Nathan Osman

I can perform a cold boot to desktop in less than 30 seconds.

I bet if I shut off all the legacy stuff in the BIOS and disabled the GRUB menu, I could get that number down to 10-15 seconds.

Windows 10, on the other hand takes nearly 3-4 minutes to boot to a usable state.

Granted, it is on a mechanical drive and Arch is on an SSD.

But still.

Liftoff.

TheWanderer

I think Cisco has to be the best character in the Flash/Arrow/Legends of Tomorrow universe

IanC

man, 11000km/h is fast as sh!7

Fabby

01:42

Voyager is going 17Km/s now... That's 61200 Km/h

TheWanderer

cool

Fabby

3 times around the Earth in 2 h...

TheWanderer

zoom zoom

Nathan Osman

amazon.com/Prank-Pack-My-First-Fire/dp/B0757WW6KB

So... here it is for sale.

IanC

well folks, going for some rest, good night!

Nathan Osman

01:50

Goodnight.

RobotHumans

02:19

Oddly, I got an empty paint can and a bottle of rubbing alcohol just to watch a contained fire burn when I was younger. Not a joke.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Bash script cause undeletable file

I'm learning bash and have the following script #!/bin/bash mv myfile.txt myfileBACKUP.txt echo "yo i love taylorswift and i like blink182 ok done">> myfile.txt mv myfileBACKUP.txt myfile.txt the problem is that after I run script I still have myfileBACKUP.txt left and when I try to delete...

Nathan Osman

02:37

Why I love open-source software: I ran into a limitation of an ORM I was using and realized "hey, I can add this feature myself and submit a pull request."

:D

Nathan Osman

03:32

$ uptime
 03:31:55 up 432 days, 23:19,  1 user,  load average: 0.24, 0.07, 0.02

Not bad for an ARM server.

Chai T. Rex

05:03

Spam spam spam spam: askubuntu.com/a/988836/616451

yode

07:44

I don't know I should post a question or not

Because I am in WSL but not a real Ubuntu..

I cannot startup my WSL anymore,can anyone help me out?

Nathan Osman

The Wayback Machine is slow...

dessert

08:59

@yode You definitely can post a question, WSL is perfectly on topic on askubuntu.com – however, there are not many who are really proficient in that matter, maybe you'll get better answers on superuser.com.

yode

@dessert Ok, I have ask one here

Nathan Osman

09:46

> "Method [...] has a Cognitive Complexity of 717 (exceeds 5 allowed). Consider refactoring."

Lol.

dessert

10:04

Why does the SE network use a date format like +"%b %d '%g" (e.g. Dec 13 '15) instead of following one of the standards at least concerning the element order (DMY or YMD, endianness 'n stuff)? I can't find a meta question addressing this.

ISO 8601 was published on 06/05/88 and most recently amended on 12/01/04.

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cl-netbox

12:28

Hello :)

Fabby

:-)

cl-netbox

Hi @Fabby ! :) Good afternoon to you ! :)

Fabby

I have to light the XMAS tree

BRB

cl-netbox

@Fabby Don't burn down the house ! :D

Fabby

Light! not fire!

:P ;-) :P

How are you doing?

New hat

cl-netbox

12:34

@Fabby I'm fine :) Thank you for asking :) What about yourself ?

Fabby

I'm off between XMAS and NY!

So I'm doing good!

cl-netbox

@Fabby Great ! :)

Fabby

(at least for the next week)

After that, back to the rat race

and more emergencies

Too bad last noght's comment wasn't starred...

cl-netbox

@Fabby who is noght ???

Fabby

Successful First Ungraceful DR Test in the USA!
(and who had to do that: yes, the German guy...)

:D :D :D

cl-netbox

12:37

@Fabby are you now the "German guy" ? :D

Fabby

I've always been "the German guy"...

cl-netbox

nice ... :)

Fabby

:D ;-) :D

cl-netbox

:D :D :D

Fabby

Except in the Operations group in the UK: there I'm known as "The crazy guy", and someone else as "the German guy"...

cl-netbox

12:40

@Fabby all DR experts are (and need to be) somewhat crazy I guess ... :)

Fabby

:thinking:

cl-netbox

about what ?

Fabby

No, one of my ex-colleagues is also good at DR Testing and he's quite normal...

>:-) >:-) >:-)

cl-netbox

@Fabby there always are exceptions ! :D

@Fabby Are you happy with your new Acer Predator power machine ?

Fabby

13:20

@cl-netbox I need to still convert my old data to the new machine...

part of the system is converted already but none of the data itself...

Videonauth

14:55

@Fabby hehehe, you should tell them that the german guy is in fact the flying duchman ;)

cl-netbox

15:05

@Videonauth You know that Belgium isn't exactly the Netherlands, don't you ? :D Good afternoon to you ! :)

Videonauth

@cl-netbox yeah I know that and good afternoon to you

cl-netbox

@Videonauth Thank you :)

Fabby

15:21

@Videonauth :P :P :P I'm the only Belgian working for my division of Dell AFAIK.

cl-netbox

@Fabby ah, now I know who is responsible for DELL's exploding ROS rate in Belgium ... :D :D :D

Fabby

AFAIK, we have 0 customers in Belgium...

:-)

cl-netbox

@Fabby okay ... then you simply have to find one single customer and the rate rises up to 100 % ! :D

Fabby

>:-)

RobotHumans

@dessert ISO standard for dates. All dates should be written that way YYYYMMDD. Why? Because it simple sorts dates. Have a star.

or ephoch time at UTC +0, but that's not readable

dessert

15:31

@RobotHumans I like to have a delimiter (personally user the common “-”), but that's not as important as proper order and consistency IMO.

RobotHumans

I understand and like having the delimiter too. The order is the important part.

cl-netbox

Good afternoon @dessert @RobotHumans ! :)

RobotHumans

Afternoon @cl-netbox

Did you know the SEC with their edgar database went through 2 other date stamps before they arrived at the ISO standard? And they haven't normalized the data-set either...

dessert

I'd really like to read what @EliahKagan thinks about that.

@cl-netbox Joyeux Noël!

cl-netbox

@dessert same to you ... Merry Xmas (tomorrow) ! :)

dessert

15:35

@cl-netbox That's “Bonne année!” in my part of Germany then – where exactly do you live? :D

RobotHumans

Happy Consumer Debt Season to All!!!

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cl-netbox

@dessert I know ... already corrected (misread it first) :D

dessert

@cl-netbox ;)

cl-netbox

@dessert I'm currently living in the South-West of Germany - near the border to Switzerland. :)

dessert

@cl-netbox Just butchered my first rabbit by the way – an interesting experience without question.

cl-netbox

15:38

@dessert I did that when I was child (better : I watched my grandpa doing it) last time. :)

RobotHumans

It is an odd experience to break down an animal the first time. There's a great pig butchering video on youtube, where the guy shows you how to break down half a pig in to the most usable and efficient cuts.

dessert

@cl-netbox Oh, I'm nearby Poland and the Czech Republic here.

@RobotHumans Well first I had to kill it, which was the really odd part. ;P

Videonauth

@dessert I think thats still the hardest part on it

RobotHumans

@dessert Messes with everybody the first couple of times. Someone was getting a "pet hen" and was having trouble getting it in their carrying cage. They looked at me like a coughed up a frog when I grabbed it by the feet and pinned the wings in with one hand (they bow out trying to free their wings and go completely rigid regardless of what angle you hold them at... stiff as a board), and just stuck it in. The woman buying it got pale and started fussing. The farmer was laughing so hard.

cl-netbox

Killing an animal is never something that is "easy to do" @dessert @RobotHumans

RobotHumans

15:46

Ok... I don't see an animal when I look at it I guess. I just see dinner. People are different than other people though.

I'ld have serious trouble with a dog or something, but I see them differently. They're pets/animals.

cl-netbox

@RobotHumans yeah, but it is different to just cook something which is already dead than first slaughter a living animal - right ? :)

RobotHumans

@cl-netbox It is, but not that much. See my clarification on dog.

cl-netbox

@RobotHumans understand ... and can follow your opinion :)

Evil and darkness is coming to all of us ... :D :D :D Hello @ThomasWard ! :)

RobotHumans

Shhh, you don't want to end up in /dev/null

dessert

@ThomasWard What's you opinion on that?

cl-netbox

15:55

@RobotHumans I won't ... because I sent huge amounts of coffee mugs over the ocean to satisfy @ThomasWard ! :D

RobotHumans

@cl-netbox Nice. What sort of mug? I've been looking at an old fashioned Belgian balance siphon coffee maker recently. I pick up some extra side work I might get one, but it's more of a novelty than a necessity.

cl-netbox

@RobotHumans IDK ... I only remember that I had to pay extra shipping charge because it was sooo big ! :D

RobotHumans

Sounds like a German litre stein with the measuring circles on the side as opposed to a mug.

cl-netbox

@RobotHumans you may be right ... :D :D :D

Thomas Ward

:P

@dessert 42.

@dessert so post a meta question about it and get a clear answer. I suggest on meta.stackexchange.com

dessert

16:08

@ThomasWard Oh, I actually think that might be the answer! Let me compute that again…

RobotHumans

It's probably because only technical people would jump up and down for joy if implemented. Non-technical people probably find the other version easier to read.

Thomas Ward

16:30

and you can change those with a userscript too

so...

cl-netbox

17:46

I think that this Q&A deserves some upvotes ->

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Q: How can I use LVM snapshots in Ubuntu?

I've installed Ubuntu using these options: Erase the disk and install Ubuntu Encrypt the new Ubuntu installation Use LVM How can I create LVM snapshots, so that I'm able to revert system changes when it's necessary?

lvm

Would be nice if some of you could add theirs. :)

Nathan Osman

20:32

@RobotHumans Lol. That is a very fitting description.

TheWanderer

Hmm, yes...

Byte Commander

o_O

Reddit...

They also proposed this one i.imgur.com/sm11fWt.png

Nathan Osman

20:48

O_o

Guys, I learned a lesson last night.

Don't give up. Even if it's 2am and you still haven't found that bug you've spent all day searching for.

Also. Sleep does not come very easily after that.

> Me: Hey, body - we found the bug. Sleep time now.
> Body: Lol, nope.

Seth

Sleep usually helps me find the hard bugs.

TheWanderer

@ByteCommander but the south and Nazis hated communism

Nathan Osman

@Seth Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it, sometimes a break does help.

The flipside is that my mind never shuts off so if I go to bed, my brain keeps trying to solve the problem.

Seth

@ByteCommander That is.. quite a flag o_O

David Foerster

21:23

sed -ne 's/^VmSize:\s*//p' "/proc/$(pidof -s firefox)/status" → 1932436 kB O.O

vidarlo

0

Q: How I made my new ubuntu server 17.10 installation only use WiFi

I decided to reinstall my TVHeadend server. I used to have Gentoo installed and decided to go for Ubuntu-server instead. Sounds like a simple task but I spent all day with network struggle. Internet search never provided me with any hint of the actual problem or any proper solution so to save som...

networking server wireless 17.10 ethernet

what do about such "questions" - it's obviously very good and useful, but should perhaps be a Q&A?

David Foerster

@vidarlo See my comment.

IanC

@NathanOsman not sure if it's much easier to sleep without finding the bug too :p

good evening

vidarlo

@DavidFoerster Thanks :)

Nathan Osman

@IanC Yeah, that too.

IanC

21:41

is AJAX a good thing to learn?

vidarlo

@IanC If you work with web development: Yes. If not, meh...

IanC

yeah, for web development, I just didn't know if it was still used frequently

vidarlo

@IanC AJAX is not really, but background requests is used

seems JSON has taken over XML's role, and libraries has enhanced it, but people still call it ajax - albeit incorrectly so

IanC

I see, might at least get a basic grasp of it then

vidarlo

probably smart to have an idea of some variant of it yes

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

21:59

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Q: Ubuntu 16.04 + CUDA + Theano: Could not find symbol "cuDevicePrimaryCtxGetState"

I'm working on an Ubuntu 16.04 and I have a little bit old Nvidia 9600 GT graphics card. It's CUDA enabled (1.1 computation capability) though legacy. I'm trying to take advantage of it while using Keras and to do so I followed this guide to install CUDA and this one to install cuDNN. The driver ...

ubuntu python nvidia gpu

IanC

23:17

if a repo owner requests a change on a pull request, once I accept it will be automatically updated on my forked repo or I'll have to do it manually later?

I'm starting to think "accepting" the change is actually commiting the corrections on my forked repo right?

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

23:30

0

Q: qemu can't write to mounted cifs but root can

I have a cifs share mounted to /var/lib/nasvirt //mynas/vms on /var/lib/nasvirt type cifs (rw,relatime,vers=default,cache=strict,username=admin,domain=,uid=1000,forceuid,gid=0,noforcegid,addr=192.168.1.x,file_mode=0755,dir_mo de=0755,nounix,serverino,mapposix,rsize=1048576,wsize=1048576,echo_int...

ubuntu qemu cifs

David Foerster

23:51

@IanC I don't know exactly what GitHub does, but it usually tries to reflect Git’s processes and I conclude that there will be no automatic pulls in the future.

Automatic pulls (that a repo maintainer doesn't set up explicitly) are problematic anyway because they can lead to inconsistencies that are difficult to spot.

Nathan Osman

Almost as good as this one: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/41915233#41915233

David Foerster

@NathanOsman Good one!

IanC

@DavidFoerster yeah, I think "Change Requests" are basically just a message with a special warning detailing the change, but in the end you do it yourself the regular way (commiting and pushing to the PR branch)

at least that's what I did lol

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