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Android Dev

00:00

Hmm you're trying to do something after OnSaveInstanceState() it looks like

So what did you decide to do about the UI tweaks in my PR?

@NathanOsman Hmm so it looks like line 180 is being called after the activity is paused

TheWanderer

00:31

@Avery ES Pro is good

@NathanOsman pls

Avery

@TheWanderer I'm not paying for ES.

They're cash-cowing by asking for payment for everything.

TheWanderer

Aptoide

Avery

Dark themes shouldn't cost money.

@TheWanderer no.

Android Dev

01:06

@Avery they're a non-trustworthy company that overlays ads on your screen in the free version

Avery

yes

also a ton of shovelware

Android Dev

shudders

Avery

This is why I want actual linux on phones.

Android Dev

more of a trojan than a file manager now

Avery

rip ubuntu touch

you didn't have potential but who cares

Android Dev

01:08

meh

you can run linux software on Android though you know

even GUI software

Avery

how

Android Dev

@Avery XDA has a great guide: xda-developers.com/…

Avery

yeah but

why can't we just have regular linux :(

why do we have to do weird hacks and run through sandboxes

Android Dev

You could take just the Android kernel

Avery

yuck, it runs at like 3.10

Android Dev

01:11

and build your own distro

Avery

My PC is at 4.12.8

like sure 3 is kinda maintained and backported and stuff

Android Dev

@Avery ahem you can run a C++ file compiled for ARM on Android with no problem at all without any sandboxes or anything

Avery

but I'd much rather have something like archarm or smth

Android Dev

using a full desktop GUI isn't practical on a phone though

Avery

ofc

A more fit GUI would be nice

Android Dev

01:14

though it is possible to run Windows 7 in QEMU at decent speed if the device in question has an x86 CPU

Avery

well

Android Dev

it has been done on the Zenphone 2 IIRC

TheWanderer

02:42

@Avery some V20 people are actually working on getting the 4.10 kernel on Android

but jokes on you, I'm on 3.18 :p

Android Dev

@TheWanderer So I'm sorta wondering if we should redo Chat Exchange from scratch as well

TheWanderer

if you want, sure

but I can't really help

Android Dev

Busy with other stuff? Yeah, I hear you

I've been really busy lately too

Doug Smythies

03:07

@WinEunuuchs2Unix: Sometime in 2010 Ubuntu changed from /bin/sh actually being /bin/bash to it being /bin/dash. At the time, the talk was that bash would eventually go away. Did not happen. Also at the time it caused a denial of service and memory leak problem on my web server with one of my cgi scripts.

Seth

@DougSmythies Was it just 2010? I thought it was earlier than that.

Doug Smythies

@Seth: My notes are dated 2010.12.22. But I did do a version jump from something like 6.?? to 10.10 so you might be right.

Seth

03:25

@DougSmythies I have a 9.10 disk around here somewhere..

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04:18

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04:29

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Kaz Wolfe

05:18

anyone currently online with some udev experience?

Seth

05:36

@KazWolfe a little, but I'm just about to go to sleep

Kaz Wolfe

i think i got it, acutally

maybe

i'm not sure

Seth

awesome

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09:57

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Byte Commander

10:12

2

Q: "read" command waiting for additional newline if input comes through pipe

If I simply run read it reads one line and immediately exits when the Enter is pressed. $ read typing something here $ However, when I pass the input through a pipe, e.g. from cat, read behaves differently and keeps running until it encounters the second newline: $ cat | read typing first lin...

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Any additional thoughts on this? We're getting confused.

Mark Yisri

10:56

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TheWanderer

13:12

wait seriously?

LG went back to having the dual cameras be different resolutions?

sigh

Eliah Kagan

It sounds like they've resolved to continue doing that.

TheWanderer

G6 was 13/13

Eliah Kagan

Yeah I'm just punning. :)

TheWanderer

wat

Thomas Ward

grumbles

TheWanderer

13:26

no

shoo

Thomas Ward

you first. picks up the flamethrower he uses to burn the flags queue

TheWanderer

h

Android Dev

@TheWanderer So have any more idiots reviewed sysuituner recently?

TheWanderer

yes

Android Dev

sigh

You should make a short video showing how to do the ADB part

WinEunuuchs2Unix

14:56

@DougSmythies According to wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh it was 6.10 (October 2006) when Dash appeared in Ubuntu. There is a reference to 6.06 LTS (June 2006) in the link as well. Either way it appears BASH is still "king of the hill" and DASH (Debians version) has a long road to climb.

Doug Smythies

15:22

@WinEunuuchs2Unix : Aghh, yes that is the reference I found way back when, but did not find yesterday. By the way, my bytes count thing is still running, so obviously I will have to think of something more efficient if I want to continue. I knew it would be slow, but I didn't think this slow. Anyway, the top 100 by packet count idea was wrong.

Eliah Kagan

16:06

@WinEunuuchs2Unix Also related. ...I would not expect Dash ever to replace Bash for interactive use. That's not really what it's for. The point of Dash is to not have the extra stuff that increases Bash's footprint. @DougSmythies You had mentioned that "the talk was that bash would eventually go away." Can you explain?

Doug Smythies

16:21

@EliahKagan : I defer to the web page that @WinEunuuchs2Unix found (although I would have been reading version 46 at the time), as opposed to my faulty memory. I thought it had to do with a tendency towards POSIX compliance and such.

Eliah Kagan

I think you are right about that--at least in Debian, POSIX compliance seems to be the main reason, or at least a major reason, for shipping /bin/dash and switching /bin/sh to symlink to dash instead of bash. I'm not sure if Bash should be considered POSIX-compliant, since since it seems to only try hard for it with POSIXLY_CORRECT is set, my guess is not.

Certainly dash makes it more likely that the scripts that run on it (successfully) will themselves be POSIX-compliant. ...So I think you're mostly right. But I don't think there's an effort to ever switch the default login shell to Dash to make it (more?) POSIX-compliant, or to remove less compliant shells like Bash. Debian's policy sees only to require POSIX-compliance from /bin/sh.

Android Dev

Hey @Avery "Starting this year with smartphones which ship with Android Oreo, Google is requiring that all SoCs productized in 2017 must launch with kernel 4.4 or newer"

Avery

16:54

nice

TheWanderer

that's probably going to be the same rule for the next five years though

whoa

if you have your language in Word set to Spanish and you try to type ?, if it's at the beginning of the sentence, it'll automatically make it a ¿

Byte Commander

17:17

awesome

TheWanderer

you don't sound sincere

Byte Commander

I am not

that's the reason

TheWanderer

oh

ok

edwinksl

¿ok?

TheWanderer

pls

Seth

17:39

@EliahKagan which actually makes a lot of sense.

Doug Smythies

@EliahKagan : Thanks for your insight on the subject.

TheWanderer

eek

oli oli oxenfree

Thomas Ward

bleps

Byte Commander

TheWanderer

agreed

gracious1

18:35

@ByteCommander Love the pic.

Eliah Kagan

19:40

@ByteCommander The behavior you described in your question is exactly what I expect, because (a) a piped-from command shouldn't be terminated at the end of the last read, as it may need to something important besides generating output, and (b) even though cat doesn't treat newlines specially, your terminal usually does, which is why when you run cat by itself and type stuff in, it's not given to cat to be echoed back except when you type an newline or flush the buffer explicitly (Ctrl+D).

But I'm not sure I should post the answer I've drafted because I'm pretty sure I'm missing something important. Specifically, when I run cat | read -rdz so that it stops reading at the z character instead of a newline (I could've used any character, it didn't have to be z), and I type a z and then a newline--or type a z and then manually flush the buffer with Ctrl+D)--cat is still running.

Given my explanation of what you are seeing, characters passed after the read is done reading should break the pipe, but with a non-newline character as the separator, that doesn't seem to be happening.

Nathan Osman

19:55

Go home, Amazon. You're drunk:

Also, how do you filter out used and refurbished items?

TheWanderer

there should be a Condition category

maybe under "MORE"

but TIL tea and tampons are Desktop accessories

Nathan Osman

I wonder which operating system they fall under...

TheWanderer

Windows

definitely Windows

Avery

20:52

@NathanOsman jeez 108 of those for 27 canadian? that's cheap

TheWanderer

"cardboard tampon"?

that doesn't ring right to me

@NathanOsman why are you in KDE?

Android Dev

@TheWanderer haaaalp, I'm trying to use a regex and Java thinks it's an escape sequence... any ideas?

String regex = "/^.*(?:(?:youtu\.be\/|v\/|vi\/|u\/\w\/|embed\/)|(?:(?:watch)?\?v(?:i)?=|\&v(?:i‌)?=))([^#\&\?]*).*/";

TheWanderer

you have to use double backslashes for regex chars

to \\w

or \\/

Android Dev

and btw no that's not my regex :D

I got it from a stack overflow answer

TheWanderer

"^.*(?:(?:youtu\\.be\\/|v\\/|vi\\/|u\\/\\/w\\/|embed\\/)|(?:(?:watch)?\\?v(?:i)?=|\\&v(?:‌)?=))([^#\\&\\?]*).*/"

idk if that'll actually work though

Java syntax might be different and I don't know how to read other regex

Eliah Kagan

21:08

It doesn't look like a Java regex. Some languages have regex literals where the syntax places them between / characters and you can escape /es inside to prevent them from ending the literal. This looks like a regex from such a language pasted between double quotes and used to initialize a variable in Java. Can you link to the Stack Overflow answer that the pattern is from?

David Foerster

@AndroidDev Is that Java's regular expression notation (as used by java.util.regex.Pattern#compile())? If so, what are the leading and closing slashes doing there? How is the regular expression compiled?

Eliah Kagan

I'm having some trouble finding it by pasting that into a search engine. :) :) :)

TheWanderer

@EliahKagan usually search engines escape escape characters so

but yeah, all I did was remove the errors. I don't think it'll actually work

David Foerster

I'd be glad if someone could answer my VLC question: superuser.com/questions/1246841/…

Eliah Kagan

@AndroidDev Actually, is it this?

Nathan Osman

21:13

@TheWanderer why not?

TheWanderer

I guess..

You win this round, Osman.

Nathan Osman

:)

It's not whether you win or lose but how you play the game.

TheWanderer

this ain't no game

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Android Dev

21:28

@EliahKagan same question, but I got it from this answer: stackoverflow.com/a/27728417/6122159

@TheWanderer wait each language has its own regex syntax? I thought regex was its own thing :\

If you can't tell,

TheWanderer

nu

Android Dev

I've never used a regex before

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Eliah Kagan

@AndroidDev Do you know that you want a regex that does the exact same thing this one does (i.e., matches the same things and captures the same parts into groups)? It looks like this regex matches some strings that are not URLs for YouTube videos, such as the string: v/

David Foerster

@AndroidDev That's Javascript's regex notation which differs from Java's. How exactly are you using/compiling it?

Eliah Kagan

21:33

However, if this really is the regex you want, then I think you should be able to use:

String regex = "^.*(?:(?:youtu\\.be/|v/|vi/|u/\\w/|embed/)|(?:(?:watch)?\\?v(?:i)?=|&v(?:i)?=))([^#&?]*).*";

Android Dev

@DavidFoerster Well I was using Pattern to compile it, and it didn't work. I've never used a regex before so I have no idea what the heck I 'm doing lol

@EliahKagan I need a regex that gets me the ID from a youtube URL

but there are a ton of different variations for youtube URLs

Eliah Kagan

But you know that the text you are matching it against is a YouTube URL, of one of the correct forms?

David Foerster

@AndroidDev If you just want to extract the value URI query parameter it would be easier and more elegant to use a URI parser. While it's possible to parse URIs with regular expressions that comes with many caveats.

Android Dev

@EliahKagan for this use case, yes, I do know that it is a valid URL

Mateo

21:46

@NathanOsman only 4 left - you need tea to operate windows ;)

David Foerster

@AndroidDev See ideone.com/kmOVbQ for an example without regular expressions.

Android Dev

Ok, thanks :)

@NathanOsman so did you make any headway on the Nitroshare crash?

TheWanderer

22:45

BOOM

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Seth

23:42

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