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00:01
Where is the kernel image on this device!?!
# cat /proc/cmdline
vmlinuz-4.9.23-std-1 initrd=initrd showopts console=ttyAMA0,115200 nousb vga=0 root=/dev/vda scaleway boot=local
But:
# find / | grep vmlinuz
...produces nothing.
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01:08
Meh, I give up for now. There seems to be no way to get armhf executables to run in an arm64 kernel.
...other than qemu-arm-static, of course. But that doesn't count.
 
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02:11
Windows 7 Enterprise can't boot into safe mode. No really.
 
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05:25
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Q: Is it risky to update my Linux Kernel to latest stable version when running Ubuntu?

KenPlease, I would like to know how risky it can be to update the kernel of Ubuntu to the latest stable version. Currently, I am running Kubuntu 17.04 which uses the kernel 4.10.0-22-generic. The latest stable Kernel version at the time of writing this question is: 4.11.4. In addition to that, it ...

 
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08:32
I'm trying to get the question that I linked to in my previous comment reopened following this Meta question: Can I ask about a problem with a non-Ubuntu kernel here? because I think we need it to be reopened now.
08:48
yeah - I can see why it was closed - "how risky" is always a red-rag to closers
09:07
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Hello :)
Good morning terdon ! :)
mornin'!
09:22
@ParanoidPanda Sumer holiday started?
@cl-netbox Guten Morgen! :)
@Fabby Guten Morgen mein Freund ! :) Schön Dich mal wieder zu sehen ! :)
Just a quick in-and-out to blow off steam!
@Fabby I hope that everything is fine for you - is it ? :)
I'm alive...
@Fabby well, doesn't sound good for me ... :(
09:29
I'm just tired, is all.
an entire year of working 12-16h is taking its toll.
@Fabby Ouch. And, WTF?
meh...
TGIF!!!
Doing reporting, then booking travel to the US.
Meeting...
@Fabby that is a lot ... understandable that you're tired ...
And working week-ends (sometimes)
10:08
Hey guys,
What is safeksh shell
10:18
@SathiyaMoorthyKaran I don't know. What it is it? Where did you find it?
@terdon its a script that disables commands like rm and format :P
boxy!
@Rinzwind Does it actually exist? The only mention of it I find is in a U&L question where it's used as an example name.
What's the point of disabling rm and format anyway? Pretty much any command can be dangerous. Consider > /dev/sda or whatever.
no idea :=)
and yes pretty useless :P
It is a old Kron Unix shell
I can install KSH shell
but i have know the safe version of ksh shell
10:37
@SathiyaMoorthyKaran Are you sure one exists? What makes you think safeksh exists?
10:49
this is my clients requirement
KSH exsist
but I cannot find any Safe-KSH
@SathiyaMoorthyKaran Yes, of course ksh exists. But why does your client think that "safe" ksh exists? What would it do? Why would it be "safe"?
11:20
@SathiyaMoorthyKaran neither can we... there is no safeksh
you'd assume there'd be a wikipedia page on it if it did.
@SathiyaMoorthyKaran are you thinking of the restricted shell?
 
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Q: Keyboard Redragon Ausura K501 not working on Linux

kitsuneI am using a public computer at my university. The keyboards are dirty and not-friendly-to-use, so I am using my own keyboard: Redragon Asura model K501. On startup, these public PCs offers the possibility to use differents OSs: Linux Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS Windows 7 Windows 10 When using both v...

 
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15:51
@Rinzwind rinzy ! :) Good afternoon to you - is it as hot as here (>35 C) in the Netherlands as well ? )
Hi @Seth ! :) Some further (hopefully positive) progress regarding your health situation ?
yeah
18:00 and 30+ outside
@Rinzwind we have something between 35 and 40 here in the South-West since a few days now ... but after some time you get used to it :)
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Q: Issue with setting up FTPS in vsftpd , 99% sure is the config file

tony listen_ipv6=YES anonymous_enable=YES local_enable=YES write_enable=YES local_umask=022 anon_mkdir_write_enable=YES dirmessage_enable=YES use_localtime=YES xferlog_enable=YES chown_uploads=YES chown_username=test xferlog_file=/var/log/vsftpd.log ascii_upload_enable=YES ascii_download_enable=YES c...

 
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17:21
@cl-netbox well what makes it tolerable is staying indoors >:-D
Had to go to the dentist y-day with the same temps... I was almost dried out when I got back home :P
What the heck, Gmail? I can't send .js files as attachments, even in a ZIP file?
Argh.
lol
upload them to Drive first
I just used Dropbox.
Why are they blocking the files though?
"VIRUSSS"
"It could be a security threat." - yeah, or I actually intended to send the files.
It's one thing to warn the user. It's another thing to just bounce the email and say "lolnope".
17:33
well I guess it's like prevention against spambots
Look at all the stuff it rejects!
> ".ADE, .ADP, .BAT, .CHM, .CMD, .COM, .CPL, .EXE, .HTA, .INS, .ISP, .JAR, .JS (NEW), .JSE, .LIB, .LNK, .MDE, .MSC, .MSI, .MSP, .MST, .NSH .PIF, .SCR, .SCT, .SHB, .SYS, .VB, .VBE, .VBS, .VXD, .WSC, .WSF, .WSH"
dafuq is a VXD?
Virtual device driver.
Far more common in the 90s.
17:34
lol why do they block Windows shortcuts?
VxD is the device driver model used in Microsoft Windows/386, the 386 enhanced mode of Windows 3.x, Windows 9x, and to some extent also by the Novell DOS 7, OpenDOS 7.01, and DR-DOS 7.02 (and higher) multitasker (TASKMGR). VxDs have access to the memory of the kernel and all running processes, as well as raw access to the hardware. == Design == The name "VxD" is an abbreviation for "virtual xxx driver", where "xxx" is some class of hardware device. It derives from the fact that most drivers had filenames of the form vxxxd.386 in Windows 3.x. Some examples are: vjoyd.386 (joystick), vmm.386 (memory...
o_O
so basically no one could get a virus from one anymore
@TheWanderer Because shortcuts include command-line arguments. You want to download and run a shortcut for the Windows equivalent of "rm ~" ?
oh they do?
Yup.
So that one sorta makes sense.
17:35
I thought that's why we had .CMD and .COM and .BAT
Let's see how well my memory works.
CMD is a special config file for running DOS applications.
COM is a DOS application or a renamed EXE (yes, that actually works).
BAT, well, we all know what that is.
COM files are supposed to be DOS executables without the PE header that Windows applications possess.
I wonder why you can't attach Lotus Notes files...
wait
you can't attach .sys but you can attach .inf?
".inf" is just a text file.
The operating system's default action is to just open it in Notepad.
but there's no action at all for .sys
Yes, but it is a system file.
Real mode device drivers in fact.
17:41
yeah but they're useless unless they're in the proper location
(Why is Gmail cracking down so hard on DOS holdovers?)
and what about DLL?
Those contain executable code.
they're not blocked
Wat.
That makes no sense.
Now I'm tempted to try sending one...
17:42
and what's so bad about CHM? It's HTML..
Want one?
@TheWanderer ...with JS.
and HTML isn't blocked
In fact, CHM files are quite dangerous.
and you can put JS in HTML files
They have the ability to launch processes.
They have extra privileges that a browser wouldn't offer.
17:43
ah
They also don't have .OCX.
This list is weird.
but they have every other VB thing it seems
OCX isn't VB. It's for ActiveX controls.
and where's our Linux safety? I don't see .sh there >_>
Sidenote: I don't think I've typed the word ActiveX in over 10 years.
17:44
> A file with this extension may be a New Custom Control's format in VB 4.0 for Visual Basic, OLE custom control.
/shrug
@TheWanderer File extensions don't mean anything on Linux :P
@TheWanderer That's just one possibility.
so they should block everything from Linux then
Fair enough :P
did you try removing the JS extension before attaching?
They should just block everything. Period. Problem solved :D
17:45
or put it in a RAR; Google can't scan those
@TheWanderer It's files for a client. I can't rename a bunch of files and then give the client a long list of renames to perform after extraction.
so use RAR or 7z
Also, Gmail blocks password-protected ZIP files :|
@TheWanderer Can macOS open either of those natively?
uhhh
just tell them to download 7-zip
Too much work. I don't want to lose customers over arcane requirements to use the files they just paid for :P
Dropbox works fine for this.
17:47
yes, yes it does
Google Drive would probably also work too
Yup.
And sometime down the road, NitroShare.
(and it's ironic, because files that are >25MB get put to Drive when you attach them anyway)
NitroShare Remote?
Something like that.
17:47
>_>
gonna be like Burger King?
"OK NS, send me X's files"
Basically what it does over a local network only routed through the public Internet.
that's usually how remote operations work...
@TheWanderer Lolnope. It's a push system not a pull one.
You push files from one device to another, rather than retrieve them.
"OK NS, send X an audio file and play it"
That is more plausible.
17:49
audio file: "OK NS, send Nathan all the files"
ALL. THE. FILES.
AL TEH FIELS
"For each file, "xdg-open %1" >:)"
oh dear
"AAAAAAAH. My desktops!"
17:50
what if Windows?
lots of CMDs with "command not recognized"
oooh
Depends on the interpreter.
think Google can scan ISOs?
Entering a filename into the run dialog invokes the file's default action.
@TheWanderer Sends Google a 4.7 GB DVD ISO image to scan.
"Windows cannot find 'xdg-open'"
lol
Windows doesn't do the Freedesktop thing.
17:51
macOS should be able to open TAR right?
does Google scan those?
Only one way to find out.
lol
how about .?Z?
or .?Q?
or .??_
One test at a time.
.tar is uploading.
17:54
would it be safe to say that macOS can open most Unix-like formats?
Yes.
macOS, is, after all, Unix.
yeah but it's also Apple
and Apple likes to mess with compatibility
So the .tar bounced back.
Even though it isn't on the list: support.google.com/mail/answer/…
17:56
darn
So stupid and confusing.
Imma write my own archive format >:)
@TheWanderer I'll give 'er a shot.
Interestingly, it doesn't block DMGs.
Or rather, it doesn't claim to :P
17:57
what if you put a JS in?
Hmm... ISO is too big.
Will have to remove some files.
Uploading...
ISO sent.
...and it worked!
now put JS in
so we found a workaround
One thing though. I forgot to enable the Joliet extension so everything has short filenames.
18:03
>_>
Will try again.
that's someone's G+ avatar o_O
I didn't know they supported GIF
It worked.
My short summary.
Spoiler: you can rename EXE to JPG and it works.
18:16
they probably block the attachments to avoid simple botnets or something
I guess they are almost exclusively trying to deal with people saving attachments with their original filename on Windows.
If you rename an EXE to JPG, its default action in Windows becomes harmless.
Well, assuming there are no exploits in the JPG viewer, of course :P
I used to simply make password-protected zips... /shrug
They block those now.
Yup.
They are onto us!
18:18
/facedesk
Yeah, I know.
But ISO files are okay.
uhm... great
you can put anything you want in an ISO
instead of using ZIP
good job google
Does ISO 9660 track file permissions?
Could you put an executable script on an ISO?
18:19
does ZIP?
No, I don't think ZIP does.
TAR does though.
well it was made to do that, wasn't it?
You could just make an ext4 image file
not everyone can open ext4
@ByteCommander Yes... but... the poor client on the other end...
18:21
it's like trying to use journaled HFS+ on Linux
@TheWanderer I don't care about those who can't actually...
well Nathan has to
Most people also don't really care that I don't have any google account or that I only use whatsapp from a VM at home
WhatsApp is owned by Facebook
18:22
How am I going to tell him to open the files in Windows? (1.) Install VirtualBox ... (34.) Now click "attach" and select that file we created in step 21 ... (56.) Now that guest additions are enabled, share the /tmp/test-3-final directory ...
1. Install a superior OS. 2. Mount the image.
install Linux on a Mac?
mkay
@TheWanderer Well, how else can you make the mac read ext4?
OSX should be able to mount ext4 images too, no?
18:23
It can?
no lol
ext4 is Linux not Unix
I don't know, but I would expect it to
okay, well, I probably shouldn't
There surely should exist an ext4 driver though
18:24
macOS can't even write to NTFS.
@ByteCommander it exists for Windows
Yeah, there's a reader for Windows.
Is there anything macOS can write to except bill paper?
2
HFS+
you know, the format no one else uses or can use?
Is that the one with case-insensitivity?
18:25
it's whatever macOS uses before High Sierra
How is that POSIX-compliant?
is macOS POSIX now?
No comprendo.
@TheWanderer It is Unix certified.
HFS+ is the FS for macOS up to 10.12
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A: Is Mac OS X UNIX?

Warren YoungAll but one release of Mac OS X (now macOS) has been certified as Unix by The Open Group, starting with 10.5: 10.12 (Sierra) 10.11 (El Capitan) 10.10 (Yosemite) 10.9 (Mavericks) 10.8 (Mountain Lion) 10.6 (Snow Leopard) 10.5 (Leopard) Apple's page on The Open Group site only lists the current ...

18:26
o_O
so no 10.7?
why
what did 10.7 do?
The Portable Operating System Interface for uni-X (POSIX) is a family of standards specified by the IEEE Computer Society for maintaining compatibility between operating systems. POSIX defines the application programming interface (API), along with command line shells and utility interfaces, for software compatibility with variants of Unix and other operating systems. == Name == Originally, the name "POSIX" referred to IEEE Std 1003.1-1988, released in 1988. The family of POSIX standards is formally designated as IEEE 1003 and the international standard name is ISO/IEC 9945. The standards emerged...
Whoa...
Even Linux isn't fully POSIX-compliant.
Who knew?
lol
do you know anything about wakelocks?
I can't seem to get one to hold
or maybe broadcasts in O?
There's some setting you have to enable for the app.
you can't do implicit anymore
18:28
hi
@NathanOsman what setting?
It's stupid. I remember all the problems I had trying to get ChronoSnap (my timelapse app) to work since it needs precise timing to take the photos.
the wakelock acquires (or so say the logs) but it doesn't do anything
@NathanOsman if you want the screen to stay on while the app is open, you can use a LayoutParams flag now
my problem is that I need to use it in a service
trying to replicate the old CM13 Caffeine tile
Now I can't find it...
this broadcast is weird
because it sends fine, but my app doesn't receive
18:52
@SumeetDeshmukh Hi Sumeet, apologies, it might be tomorrow or Sunday. Today was a long day... I promis I will.
19:11
So. Murray Energy is suing John Oliver.
This is gonna be interesting.
lol
he predicted it
Yep. He pre-wrote a check for them ;)
19:43
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Q: Dockerfile installs Meteor globally, not locally

timebanditMy Dockerfile installs Meteor on the image. Only problem is when I log in to my non root user and run meteor it then begins to download and install it locally. So it recognises meteor as a command but it is not available immediately to run my app-code. How can I make it available to my non root u...

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Q: Photoshop cs6 ubuntu

Frank W.I've just got Photoshop Cs6 working on Ubuntu making use of Playonlinux. Took me some time since I just transfered from Windows to Ubunto (which I'm untill now very happy about). Now every time when I perform an action like hide a layer, making use of color overlay the action doesn't execute with...

19:58
Google why
why did you have to make a requirement for explicit broadcasts in Android O?
it took me >24 hours to figure out what that meant and how to do it
cause of course there's no documentation
daily zach rants
>_>
so apparently you can use array accessors on ArrayLists in Kotlin: ArrayList[index]
and instead of using .set you use ArrayList[index] = something
20:16
@edwinksl hourly rants in 3... 2... 1...
21:12
pls
21:40
oh come on Samsung
please don't let Evan Blass be right this time
€999/$925 for the Note 8
Hello guys
@TheWanderer that would be really stupid, like really really stupid.
If they price it that way I mean
And it is equally bad for us, Because it will give companies that sale cheap phones an opportunity to price their products higher too
21:53
OnePlus already did that
Yeah they did
So anyone have experience with Glad interface designer?
user136984
@Fabby Not quite yet, just a few more weeks to go though! :)
user136984
22:23
Anyway...
user136984
Goodnight folks! :)
22:37
^ deleted
23:01
Oh Apple.
> "Photos and iMovie don't support direct drag and drop between the apps..."
Also, SMB is super unreliable

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