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jrg
12:07 AM
Yippee, i'm installing Ubuntu to my USB key tonight. :\
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really? google play?
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that's not where i'd go to get non-game stuff
 
jrg
more like google let-us-own-your-soul
 
we play with your life
 
Oli
Oh man, I'm falling behind on Kairosoft games. Haven't played World Cruise Story, Epic Astro Story, Dungeon Village or Mega Mall Story.
I wonder if they've fixed the "I'm going to eat ALL YOUR BATTERY" bug yet that all their games seem to suffer from on Android.
 
The W3C would be well-advised to create an HTML5 icon.
 
12:20 AM
@Oli the battery is needed to send them all your photos :P
 
jrg
They have one - w3.org/html/logo
 
12:36 AM
@MarcoCeppi I think I single handily broke your server :-(
 
@TheX I doubt it, I'm using that server right now for a site I'm building and it's fine
 
@jrg Oh yeah - I forgot about that one.
 
Oh shewwwww
I uploaded fifty pictures... it is now running really slow for me now...
and @RolandTaylor, but he has crappy internet anyways
Hmmm it might just be that page, maybe I should reduce their size a bit
 
12:59 AM
good night all!
 
@MarcoCeppi any chance the GD library will be installed for PHP any time?
 
@TheX I prefer ImageMagick, but I know a lot of tools need GD.
 
@GeorgeEdison I will take a look at that :-D
 
@TheX It has a lot more features - and it supports video formats in addition to every image format that ever existed.
 
Cool
 
jrg
1:16 AM
Bright side of this adventure is I'll have a nice blog post on how to keep a Ubuntu desktop install under 4GB.
Or is that good, semi-solid AU question material?
 
@jrg It is. Just ask a question "how do I ensure my Ubuntu installation stays under 4GB?"
...and paste your answer.
 
jrg
@GeorgeEdison Cool.
 
@TheX WTF are you doing?
 
jrg
I'll have trouble keeping my answe under 4GB though. ;)
 
@MarcoCeppi I just deleted my wordpress install...
that is all
 
jrg
1:18 AM
@TheX WHY?!
 
you're really pissing off the server
 
why not?
@MarcoCeppi it should be better now...
 
The Wordpress people need to rewrite Wordpress in Django. That is all.
 
jrg
Is he on Dagobah? Because 2buntu isn't loading at all.
 
@jrg No
2buntu is loading fine for me
 
1:19 AM
@jrg 2buntu is loading for me.
 
@ja
 
jrg
Now it loads.
 
maybe I broke everything O.o
 
There are two servers, Bayes and Dagobah
 
Was I eating all your bandwidth?
 
1:21 AM
@TheX Whatever you were doing, it was spawning about 30 php processes that wouldn't die off
 
lol
For real all I did was delete the install...
 
interesting
anyways
that was fun "lets see how the server handles 800 running php processes"
 
oh geesh
 
Hmm... what happened to the resource limits?
 
800 was the per user limit :)
 
1:24 AM
if it can't handle 30....
I hate to see what 800 will do to it...
 
@TheX it was running 800
that was 30 processes ~ ever second <3u
 
Oh...
@MarcoCeppi is it breaking again?
 
Okay, plugin wasn't loading made me nervous
 
jrg
2:06 AM
in Ubuntu Regulators, 27 secs ago, by jrg
bodhi.zazen - Total 446
Nitin Venkatesh - Total 440
bluexrider - Total 402
Jorge O. Castro - Total 255
 
@MarcoCeppi couple questions:
 
jrg
Jorge Castro has been de-throned... whoa.
 
Do you support normal HTML + JS only sites?
 
Yes
 
And... (obvious follow on) can I join the preview? (separate from 2buntu)
 
2:07 AM
Register here: ondina.co/arch/#signup
 
Oh, silly moi.
Thanks!
Done.
 
jrg
can I remove unity 2D or unity 3D, but not both?
 
@MarcoCeppi what, I have to explain why I want an account? :)
 
Optionally :)
 
also, no postgresql?
 
2:20 AM
Not at the moment
Postgres and a few other "NoSQL" databases will be landing during this private preview beta thing
 
jrg
Who needs NoSQL or SQL - use database.txt LIKE A BOASS.
 
btw, your signup form seems to be missing a submit button
 
@ajmitch It submits once you complete the 'captcha'.
 
I completed the captcha first & then filled in the form :)
 
Me too :)
 
2:23 AM
OK, I redrew the pretty little star & it submitted
 
jrg
it'll submit after the form is filled then, right?
 
yes
it acts as the submit button
 
@MarcoCeppi See? Two people find the form unintuitive :) We're drawn to the pretty scribble-thing and fill it in first.
 
I hope that @MarcoCeppi is saving these scribbles
I had to draw first, it called to me
 
jrg
MUST. DRAW. PRETTY. SHINY. SCRIBBLE-THING. NOW.
 
2:25 AM
@jrg EXACTLY!!
 
I hereby refer to the 'captcha' as 'scribble-thing'.
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From now on, all references to previously described captcha shall use the hyphenated term 'scribble-thing'.
 
jrg
@GeorgeEdison must resist using my mod powers to go back and edit everything. :P
 
Whoa - wait. What is 'database.txt' for?
 
jrg
For everything.
 
We need a PDO driver for CSV data in a TXT file.
 
jrg
2:29 AM
Wow, installing to USB is taking forever.
 
@MarcoCeppi any place where I can scribble to my hearts delight?
(Pinta and the GIMP do not count).
 
jrg
@RolandTaylor Paint.
 
Speaking of dumb Windows utilites... Notepad is utterly broken.
 
@jrg Pinta means Paint in Spanish so you lose :D
 
2:40 AM
Anybody bored and need something to read?
 
jrg
@RolandTaylor oh.
 
I made a line. Out of "t".
@jrg :)
 
jrg
so I put in asdfasdfsdfsadfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdflakjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjasdfasdfsdfsad‌​fasdfasdfasdfasdfasdflakjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjasdfasdfsdfsadfasdfasdfasdfasd‌​fasdflakjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjasdfasdfsdfsadfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdflakjjjjjjjj‌​jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjasdfasdfsdfsadfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdflakjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj‌​jjjasdfasdfsdfsadfasdfasdfasdfasdfasdflakjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj
and it didn't scroll.
lame.
 
:P
Chrome user...
 
Yeah - it works in Firefox.
 
jrg
2:45 AM
Yup.
 
Except the text you just pasted here in the chat breaks Firefox.
 
Not in the future, where I'm from.
 
jrg
Heh.
Almost done! installing grub!
 
Sweet!
 
jrg
So far, I have a fairly extensive list of packages to remove from the install.
libreoffice, firefox, banshee, tomboy, the list goes on...
(did the math, google chrome is smaller than firefox+everything else)
 
2:49 AM
A minimal install would have been a wiser choice then.
Better to build up than build down.
 
jrg
I did a alternative install
 
But you didn't choose to install just the base packages?
 
jrg
on second thought, doing a server would have been better, but meh.
 
Oh well...
brb
switching to KDE to see if I can actually do work in it
 
jrg
hm.
now it won't boot.
 
2:51 AM
you just have to kick it
 
jrg
dangit, i don't have time for this. :\
ok, i think i'll just wipe the drive, and risk it for two weeks. :P
 
jrg
welcome back @RolandTaylor
 
KDE is feeling actually pretty nice :)
 
jrg
HERESY. nah, its ok.
 
2:57 AM
Gnome 3 FTW!
 
:D
It is a bit, awkward, but usable
You'd never guess that I was once a loyal KDE3 user ;)
Dolphin is... fast!
...and I thought Marlin was fast...
@jrg I am scared.
Everything is running faster in KDE.
 
Bounty offered: Overclock monitoring and stress testing tools in Ubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/110058/overclock-monitoring-and-stress-testing-tools-in-ubuntu #overclocking
 
jrg
wow
 
Well, except, LibreOffice :(
LibreOffice and Caligra words do poorly on large ODT documents :(
 
StackApplet 1.6 is written in Qt so it should work very well in KDE.
 
jrg
3:09 AM
askubuntu.com/a/110670 - wow (10K only)
 
@jrg I can't see it!
 
@GeorgeEdison it does ;)
One peeve I have with KDE is that I have to right click indicators (that, and it doesn't support showing text next to the indicators either).
 
jrg
Let me just say this, its uh, not pretty.
 
Back to Unity shortly :/
 
jrg
Calls Ubuntu a "virus" and then leaves it like that.
 
3:11 AM
@jrg I just read the most of it.
That guy needs a time out.
(Not banning lol, I mean someone needs to physically make him sit in a corner and stare blankly).
Brb again, back to Unity :D
 
jrg
Poor guy, i feel sorry for him now.
ok, how come disk utility tells me that i've got "A few bad sectors", but I have 2359382 and climbing?!
 
isn't that question a dupe?
I am sure we have a bunch of uninstallation questions
 
jrg
now its at 2490498. :S
@JorgeCastro yes, but none have a good, solid A++ answer.
 
maybe we should integrate them all?
 
@jrg You better stop before your giant hard drive has 2kb of usable storage space :P
 
3:16 AM
I still don't get why if we have an unanswered question with poor answers how just posting another one helps
 
jrg
Jorge, you know that, and I know that, but google doesn't know that, and neither do the people who ask.
@GeorgeEdison crap. And my USB install isn't working either... ugh.
I'm seeing that blasted bad sector number climb and climb and climb... i think i'll need to be computer-less for a few days until I get a hard drive.
 
ok so should I flag them or what?
actually man
there is a bunch
ok I will save that one for tomorrow
 
@jrg So wait - this is your primary drive?
 
jrg
sure, flag them and i'll come through tomorrow and clean up the ones you miss, then toss a bounty on whichever one we want as "the answer".
@GeorgeEdison yup.
 
That is not good. You better get that USB install working :P
Better yet, burn a LiveCD.
 
jrg
3:20 AM
@GeorgeEdison I have a LiveCD burned.
Suggestions? Boot the livdCD, and then just work off that and my ubuntu server until a HDD arrives?
 
@jrg Yeah, that's probably the best option.
 
jrg
ok. thanks!
 
4:21 AM
Hello all
@jrg O.o
 
4:57 AM
 
5:33 AM
BBL
 
5:48 AM
Bounty offered: How can I make Unity 2D launcher icons smaller? http://askubuntu.com/questions/82395/how-can-i-make-unity-2d-launcher-icons-smaller #icons
 
 
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8:28 AM
Hello all
 
8:41 AM
eek,
After today's update my brightness controls aren't working anymore. After checking the System Settings, Brightness and Lock there is no longer any brightness slider bar shown for manual setting either. So my screen is fixed on full brightness. I'll attach screen shots showing the difference before and after the update. == Regression details == Discovered in version: 3.3.91-0ubuntu1 Last known good version: 3.3.90-0ubuntu4 ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: gnome-settings-daemon 3.3.91-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-18.28-generic 3.2.9 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-18-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 1.94-0ubuntu1 Architecture: amd64 CheckboxSubmission: dd7f729683fa7fd3f2e256ba311e86cb CheckboxSystem: d00f84de8a555815fa1c4660280da308 Date: Mon Mar 5 21:36:12 2012 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.10 "Oneiric Ocelot" - Beta amd64 (20111006) SourcePackage: gnome-settings-daemon UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu)
Undecided / Confirmed
My eyes are dying.
Halp!
 
@jokerdino sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=E0
 
heh no change
 
run lspci
 
And?
 
Post output here
 
8:45 AM
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 12)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 12)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06)
00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 06)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
 
So you have a Core 2?
 
eh?
 
@jokerdino Whats your processor?
 
intel i3 core
 
@jokerdino sudo setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=60
 
8:52 AM
Boo
 
Thats another bug
@jokerdino You on a laptop?
 
Yeah
 
This is a problem
 
:(
 
Can you answer this? Shutdown/suspend/hibernate not working correctly http://askubuntu.com/questions/73365/shutdown-suspend-hibernate-not-working-correctly #powermanagement
 
9:02 AM
@jokerdino xgamma -gamma .75
 
Slightly better, but looks weird
Are the above changes permanent?
 
Nope
Reboot fixes it
 
Awesome then
 
@OctavianDamiean \o
 
9:05 AM
I am going to install Xubuntu, can't take this anymore
 
@OctavianDamiean That neon thing was awesome
@jokerdino Revert to the light side MWAHAHAHAHAAH!!!
(Yes, I use Xubuntu like awesomethings)
 
man, my eyes are still burning
 
sigh, they blocked Facebook here
installed xbacklight and changed the brightness.
liboobs-1-5 What package is this? O.o
 
@jokerdino Its lib-Oobs
 
9:28 AM
@AmithKK Thanks. :)
 
Want an invite?
 
sure
 
Sent
 
Received
Thanks
 
np
 
9:33 AM
how do i move the dock to the left?
 
XFCE?
Its just a panel
 
Xubuntu
 
Right Click>Properties>Position:Left
 
Cool, did it
what's the difference between xubuntu and xfce session?
 
@jokerdino Dont Press that one... You will regret it
 
9:37 AM
XFCE ?
 
yep
I have a screen somewhere
 
Almost selected it
 
Oct 8 '11 at 5:25, by Amith KK
user image
Not too bad
Its Xubuntu without theming
 
Looks cool
Just that I lose a lot of space on the top.
 
New slightly improved version of Simply Blue.
 
10:13 AM
BBL
 
i like it when chromium eats some of my bookmarks...
 
Isn't that awesome?
 
no, i'm thinking about going back to crappy opera. :P
 
Give a try at Chrome or Firefox?
 
don't like firefox
chrome is chromium with stuff i don't need
 
10:20 AM
Epiphany? :P
Oh wait, you asked for a browser
 
My Github shopping cart totals $72. :D
 
what i like: it seems to corrupt the bookmarks on exit, and writes the backup file on start.
 
Plus shipping costs it makes $97.
\o/
Github stuff purchased! :)
 
what are buying?
 
Mug?
 
10:24 AM
one mug
 
Octobiwan mug?!
 
Some stickers for good measure.
Yes, Octobiwan is amazing. :D
I often checkout their 404 page just for fun.
hehe
 
just fork you!
 
 
1 hour later…
11:46 AM
@OctavianDamiean Heh, Pokemon reference
 
Can you answer this? How to tell dash to re-scan apps? http://askubuntu.com/questions/68148/how-to-tell-dash-to-re-scan-apps #unity
 
duuuude, java-based x11 server for android: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=au.com.darkside.XServer
 
O_O
 
11:53 AM
o_o
 
.--.
moar tollin'! :P
 
@Octatroll
 
has been trolled
 
so, will you all follow the big ipad 3 event later today?
 
Certainly not.
 
11:56 AM
haha
 
@htorque Buy me an iPad 2 and I will
 
why? you are not my enemy. :D
 
jrg
I normally watch the Apple events, but only because Steve Jobs can present. Unfortunately, he's gone, do I don't really have a reason to.
 
@jrg USB install is a go go?
 
jrg
USB install is dead, I'm using my chromeos box right now.
(while I'm trying a new usb install)
 
12:03 PM
meh be mini CD would be a better install media?
 
jrg
I need something that I can read/write packages to, so I don't think I can do that easily. :\
 
@jrg \o
@jrg Networkboot :D
 
jrg
@AmithKK Its 90% how shiny you can make it look, 5% brushed aluminum and 5% how good the product actually is. :)
 
O_O What?
 
I pad
 
jrg
12:08 PM
That won't work, I'm not always on my home network and I do need to take this thing out of the house tomorrow, so netbook won't work.
 
I heard Apple is releasing iPad 3 iPad 2S today?
 
jrg
iPad 3 imo, but thats speculation.
 
@jrg Your Laptop?
 
jrg
@AmithKK Yeah, bad hard drive. :\
 
@jrg I heard
You should fix that
@jrg netbook?
And why the problematic USB install?... Do it again
 
jrg
12:10 PM
Sold to a friend so I could buy this laptop.
 
user image
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\o/
 
@htorque No way! The iPad 3 needs to be bigger
 
jrg
@htorque Breaking news, thats what Apple is announcing - they want to have a walled garden around medical products as well as technology.
 
@htorque Seems like it has retina display
3
 
jrg
^^ punny.
 
12:12 PM
Apple Eye Pad: Comes with 500 page EULA, Retina display and Apple Stickers
 
jrg
Bright side of doing a new install, I get to see this again.
 
needs an update of my avatar :D
 
jrg
12:36 PM
People say @rolandtaylor spams G+ a lot... they obviously haven't circled me and gotten in my Ask Ubuntu circle. :p
 
@jrg Add me!
 
Thank God. I am not there.
 
jrg
From what I'm seeing, both of you are in there.
The (uneeded) language packs are taking fooorrrreeeevvveeeerrrrrr to install. :\
 
@jrg Good luck
BBL
 
12:59 PM
sc2 is working in 12.04! see you all in a week (or more)!
 
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Q: Backup Ubuntu as an installer

sura2kI'm using ubuntu since 2007/8 and still I use the same system with upgrading it. I'm not a person who good in linux but developing under linux. Now I want to format the system and re install a new, but I need the previous (currently using) ubuntu system as a backup and, whenever I need that, I wa...

 
jrg
sweet, just got my USB install.
 
oh dear, one troll comment against Unity and I am famous all of a sudden.
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jrg
welcome to the club of slightly famous people.
 
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jrg
1:07 PM
whistles Libreoffice is 333mb. axes it
Anyone have ideas as to what I should remove next?
Banshee is 7MB, i thought it'd be more but i forgot that I need mono.
 
my morning humor
ok and now for coffee
 
jrg
@rlemon Calls himself an expert, huh? Pfft.
Only person who was close to an expert was Dennis Ritchie. And he's dead now.
 
that calls for a ....
s/you're/him
 
jrg
1:24 PM
heh
@badp FYI, I just did a ubuntu install using the desktop CD to my 4GB USB key, so you I don't think you need to use the alternative disk.
 
0
Q: Is there a way to identify which process turns into Zombie process

user379997One of the ubuntu server has 82 zombie processes. Is there a way to find out which process is becoming a zombie process? I tried checking the /proc/PID/ directory to get some clue but all files are empty. Is there any other way to find it out?

 
1:48 PM
@UbuntuQuestionsonUL kill it. if it's not gone, it's a zombie. :P
 
I have made some additions to typesetting.js now you can optionally set the after content, the base classname, and if you would prefer you can set up a 'runner' or a 'reset' limit (runner == 1,2,3,2,1 reset == 1,2,3,1,2)
 
2:11 PM
15 questions to 83%
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2:31 PM
should I have any issue removing the Plymouth package?
 
I wouldn't mess with it
 
i'll remove it.
 
2:48 PM
@rlemon its only 200Kb of space... >/
 
@BrunoPereira but I won't have a screen hooked up to it. why would I want it there.
 
@rlemon have you done it yet?
 
not yet. installing a new instance.
 
just did it, looks good, you can remove both the theme-logo and the theme-text packages (if you dont need them, you dont need them ;))
 
the only time anything would be seen is if a tech hooked up a monitor to patch a script file.
 
2:54 PM
sudo apt-get remove plymouth-theme*
a wooping 500kb! ;)
 
in which case we would prefer our own splash screen, but barring that nothing.
 
@rlemon as long as your not looking for anything fancy :)
 
@BrunoPereira during the ubuntu server install I can manually select packages. Removing them from here will be ok as well?
sweet, i'll look into this post. I assume there is no issue with me axing the ubuntu logo for our own during the boot process? (not claiming the os is ours.)
 
the removal triggered a update-grub automatically, I would say yes but if that does not happen run a sudo update-grub when you are done.
 
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