Ask Ubuntu General Room

Byte Commander

19:03

And what is an IPO, for the non-English people?

Jacob Vlijm

Forgive me the rudeness, I am tired and saw too many figures today, but can comments get any more stupid than here askubuntu.com/q/913146?

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander IPO = initial public offering, basically becoming a publicly-traded company.

Byte Commander

ah, so they're planning to enter the stocks market

thanks

@JacobVlijm what exactly? I couldn't spot anything offending the eye by quickly skimming over the page...

Jacob Vlijm

@ByteCommander $, $HOME, ./ in a .desktop file? even suggesting it in a comment shows they never ever tried it and have no knowledge whatsoever on .desktop files. Then "if it works, I'll make it an answer" looks dreadful to me. Admitted, I should not look at that in an exhausted state of mind.

Byte Commander

Hmm... I haven't done that much with desktop files either, but now that you're mentioning it I think that such stuff was indeed not working there.

Right, that's why I normally just wrap everything in bash -c '...', just to be sure.

Jacob Vlijm

19:17

^ that works

Android Dev

@Anwar It is now

Byte Commander

@JacobVlijm you should look at the script snippet in the answer... Now that is making me facepalm

Jacob Vlijm

:) it's all part of the daily fun

user136984

Looks like they fooled my family as well! :D

user136984

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A: How to keep a military technology secret while using it?

Tell everyone that eating more carrots allows them to see in the dark No really. That's how radar was kept secret during WWII. The idea that it might is due to a myth begun by the Air Ministry in World War II. To prevent the Germans finding out that Britain was using radar to intercept bombe...

Seth

19:30

@NathanOsman hm, not sure if good or bad :/

@NathanOsman Install Linux.

Nathan Osman

@Seth Time will tell. My gut feeling is that it could be a good thing if the shareholders have the community's interests in mind.

Seth

@NathanOsman yeah

I wonder what they'll start at.

Nathan Osman

@Seth I don't know how easy that would be since I'd have to somehow copy the raw image while Windows is running.

Seth

I'd consider buying some, but I couldn't afford enough to make a difference.

Nathan Osman

Actually, I can probably just detach the block storage and manually put data on it.

But where's the fun in any of that?

Byte Commander

19:35

@ParanoidPanda I can vividly imagine "Karotten für's Vaterland" propaganda posters now...

Android Dev

@NathanOsman There is a program called dd for windows

user136984

:D

Android Dev

It might work

Nathan Osman

I wonder how Windows would react to having the filesystem overwritten while it is running.

Seth

A friend and I once run a recursive rm on a windows server. That was fun.

Nathan Osman

19:38

I could do that.

But I thought Windows had some sort of protection to prevent system files from being deleted.

And with respect to AWS, there's not much you can do if the node doesn't come back up after a reboot.

Seth

Net Neutrality II: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)

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Android Dev

@NathanOsman Actually, I once accidentally wrote a 1.44MB floppy image to the C: drive of a Win7 machine because Win32DiskImager got confused somehow

It kept working for like another day,

before it BSODed

Nathan Osman

I can't imagine Windows wouldn't be somewhat resistant to such a small area of the disk being overwritten.

A BSOD makes sense though.

Did chkdsk help at all?

Seth

@NathanOsman it did, but it still BSOD'd after enough time :D

Android Dev

@NathanOsman But get this - it only BSODed when I opened the "Windows Features" program

@NathanOsman No, because the partition table and the NTFS master table were both destroyed

And also the boot sector

And testdisk even reported that the backup copy of the master table was gone too

Nathan Osman

19:44

Why does NTFS store the MFT so close to the beginning of the disk...

That doesn't make sense to me.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman They store it at the beginning, and at the end

Nathan Osman

...the two most likely areas to be overwritten.

Android Dev

But, as I said, chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/37258999#37258999

Nathan Osman

:P

Android Dev

Where does EXT4 store the MFT?

Byte Commander

19:46

it's called inode table, I think

Nathan Osman

Isn't it called the superblock?

And yes, they store it at the beginning as well.

Don't ask me why.

Byte Commander

Isn't the superblock just the first 512 bytes or so that contain some file system info like type and size and some other magic numbers maybe?

Nathan Osman

Yes, but obviously that information is necessary for using the filesystem.

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

20:14

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Q: Fix File Path Casing

I have a list of stored file paths ie (impl/src/main/java/org/jboss/weld/util/collections/multimaps.java). The paths were coverted to lowercase prior to storing. Now, I need to access the file in a bash script. Is there a simple command to "fix" the casing and find the file? For simplicity, a...

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

20:29

wooooo, look at those numbers

I need another 4 there though

TheWanderer

DOWNVOTE

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

plz

edwinksl

@TheWanderer i gif you 1-star review

Seth

the official ubuntu flash drives are pretty cool. They're suuuper tiny and metal.

and 8GB!

TheWanderer

ploox

Seth

20:33

it's smaller than my yubikey.

edwinksl

flash drives? i prefer floppy disks

TheWanderer

lol

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

would be cool if they increased in size with Ubuntu version, hehe

TheWanderer

imagine an 8GB floppy

edwinksl

dope

Sergiy Kolodyazhnyy

20:33

I'd go for 16.04 USB with 16 GB

TheWanderer

16.04GB

Seth

@SergiyKolodyazhnyy more is always better, but for free 8GB is pretty nice.

I remember one flash drive I got.. excited.. plug it in.. 512MB -.-

TheWanderer

anyone wanna buy me a bigger SSD?

Kaz Wolfe

Do you want to buy me a Vive?

TheWanderer

a hwat

Kaz Wolfe

20:39

vive.com/us/product

TheWanderer

oh that Vive

I think a 320GB SSD costs less than the Vive

even if it's PCI-e

Seth

Oh VR. Am I the only one that barely even cares about VR? I'd rather do something real.

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth dragons aren't real.

Seth

@KazWolfe not anymore. So why waste your time?

Kaz Wolfe

@TheWanderer amazon.com/dp/B004S7U03I

TheWanderer

20:42

lol

I don't have a Bladesystem whatever that is

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth when were dragons real?

also, magic is also not real. vr fixes that.

Seth

@KazWolfe well, never real like they are depicted now.

TheWanderer

DERP

Kaz Wolfe

actually, i wish magicleap would actually do their thing.

TheWanderer

mSATA not PIC-e lol

Seth

20:43

Question still stands..

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth then vr makes dragons real.

user136984

Oh dear... I think I am coming down with the flu, again... :(

TheWanderer

ughhh amazon.com/Samsung-850-EVO-Internal-MZ-M5E250BW/dp/B00TGIVTP2/…

user136984

Or at least, I have a very saw throat and the rest of my body is starting to feel bad.

Kaz Wolfe

@ParanoidPanda welcome to humanity. our immune systems suck.

user136984

20:44

I predict that I will feel awful tomorrow. :(

Seth

@KazWolfe no, it doesn't.

Kaz Wolfe

it makes them Real Enough(tm)

user136984

@KazWolfe: Well, who knows, I recently had it upgraded so maybe it will make this thing go away faster.

Kaz Wolfe

doubtful. flu is stupid.

just start an aspirin regimen.

TheWanderer

no

don't take aspirin

Kaz Wolfe

20:46

it's a damn sight better for you than tylenol is.

Seth

That -^

TheWanderer

if you start using it regularly and then stop, you could have a heart attack

Seth

What Zach said.

TheWanderer

especially if you're under 18

Kaz Wolfe

that's why you don't take it regularly.

TheWanderer

20:47

use acetominophen + ibuprofen

they're safe to take together and will work better

take it from someone who gets headaches like every other day

Kaz Wolfe

and that's how you get liver failure.

TheWanderer

well I don't take both every time lol

and I don't take any every time either

user136984

I have some herbal medicine which I'm taking and normally helps as well as lots of hot drinks and a Vitamin C boost from the chemist. So hopefully that and keeping warm should do it for me. But judging how things have gone before, I'm probably in for a week or two of hell.

Kaz Wolfe

yeah, try real medicine. it'll actually work.

TheWanderer

@ParanoidPanda don't sniff

there's a reason your body makes your nose run

Byte Commander

20:49

... or just take it like a man

TheWanderer

@ByteCommander >_>

user136984

Well, my nose hasn't kicked in yet... But I guess it will soon.

user136984

I would trust some herbs that may or may not work though more than I would some random chemical compound that has many side-effects and could be dangerous. :P

Byte Commander

btw, @KazWolfe, we have a vive at work :)

TheWanderer

"random" is not accurate

but don't take aspirin because that is dangerous

Kaz Wolfe

20:50

all the herbs do is introduce the placebo effect.

(as is tylenol)

TheWanderer

ibu and acet are good though

Nathan Osman

@TheWanderer this is true

Byte Commander

basically everything is dangerous, just in different doses

TheWanderer

@ParanoidPanda idk if they have it in the UK, but Excedrin Tension Headache is pretty good. It has acetominophen and caffeine

Seth

@KazWolfe oh you believe in healing by the mind? Interesting.

Nathan Osman

20:51

Even water can kill you in high enough quantities.

TheWanderer

@ByteCommander aspirin is dangerous in every dose lol

Kaz Wolfe

actually, i counter that these homeopathic treatments are even more dangerous than actual medicine. Look at Steve Jobs.

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman WATER POISONING

user136984

I just don't trust the knowledge of the doctors in terms of medicines, if they really understood how the body worked to the degree that medicines would all be safe, then medicines wouldn't have side-effects, or at least they would know about them before hand, but the fact that they have to use trial and error shows that they don't understand the workings of the body properly yet.

TheWanderer

@ParanoidPanda so who's to say that those herbs aren't killing you?

they've been studied even less

Kaz Wolfe

20:52

@Seth I don't believe it actually does anything except make you think you feel better.

Nathan Osman

The best thing by far is to let your body's natural healing abilities do their thing. Only use medicine if that somehow isn't sufficient.

Byte Commander

@TheWanderer I don't believe so

Seth

@KazWolfe said like a true person who has never tried anything "natural" ;)

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman can you tell that to my headaches pls

user136984

@KazWolfe Lots of medicines are plant based you know, and unless you've tested all of these herbs yourself you can't possibly know that. Anyway, when I started using it I very strongly believed that it wouldn't work, and it did. But I don't think, even if it does work, that it works very well because it's not doing much for me now. So who knows, maybe just coincidence.

Seth

20:53

(which we haven't defined btw)

TheWanderer

containing carbon?

Nathan Osman

Looks at Zach's headache: be gone, yo!

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman poof

nope, just got worse

Nathan Osman

~~It worked!~~ Next patient, plz.

Kaz Wolfe

@ParanoidPanda I personally haven't tried them, but I have access to studies.

user136984

20:54

@TheWanderer Yeah, I know, but I'll still keep taking them. :P

TheWanderer

actually though, I had a really bad headache this morning, took ibu and excedrin, then ran on the eliptical about 2 hours later

works well

Byte Commander

hire someone to wave around with some penguin feathers and dance around you, hopping on one foot and with a GNU mask...

might help too

Nathan Osman

@ByteCommander How often must I say this? It's GNU/Linux.

:P

TheWanderer

@ParanoidPanda so apply the same logic to medicine. It's the same thing, just engineered

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth And I don't try them because studies say actual medicine is more effective. Double-blind trials are one hell of a thing.

TheWanderer

20:54

@NathanOsman LINUX

Nathan Osman

You're welcome.

Byte Commander

No need for Linux to run on that mask...

Seth

@KazWolfe yay let's ignore all the studies we don't like xD

user136984

It should be noted that herbal medicine and homeopathic medicine are two completely different things. One works with herbs, the other with using meditation and machines to making water have the energetics of whatever it was they were basing it on.

Seth

@ParanoidPanda yeah homeopathics are weird.

TheWanderer

20:55

isn't there some sort of scalar wave infused water? (which makes no sense at all)

user136984

@TheWanderer Plants have evolved much longer than the engineered medicines and have been taken for much longer so I trust them more.

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth I ignore the studies that fail peer review and that don't get any sort of verification by anyone outside the study.

Nathan Osman

@TheWanderer It's jargon at its worst.

Byte Commander

@ParanoidPanda homoepathy has nothing to do with meditation

Seth

@TheWanderer no. also don't use the term "scalar wave", because that is completely undefined scientifically.

@KazWolfe lol

TheWanderer

20:56

@Seth that's the point...

Nathan Osman

I do recall seeing something silly about special water the other day.

Maybe on Skeptics.SE.

user136984

@ByteCommander It does with some of the people who make it.

Seth

@TheWanderer yeah but no homeopathic will use the term.

TheWanderer

@ParanoidPanda please don't say you're against vaccines though

Kaz Wolfe

@Seth quwave.com

Seth

20:56

@NathanOsman yeah

Kaz Wolfe

You were saying?

Seth

actually I won't say no, because I'm sure someone does..

user136984

I know someone who uses meditation to do homeopathic stuff.

Kaz Wolfe

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Q: Can drinking "harmonized" water prevent sunburn

Osmosis Skin Care offers what they call "Harmonized H2O" This product is a UV Neutralizer-Tan Enhancing[sic]: Boost your body’s defenses with this innovative new technology utilizing frequencies that work against the damaging effects of the sun. Specifically, they claim that drinking this water...

alternative-medicine natural-remedies homeopathy sun-exposure

Byte Commander

that's two things combined then, but homeopathy does not include meditation by default

Nathan Osman

20:57

@KazWolfe Yeah, that was it.

TheWanderer

@KazWolfe that

Seth

@KazWolfe yeah that. Super weird.

user136984

@ByteCommander Ok, look, I really just don't know anything about the homeopathic method.

Seth

basically scalar waves are nonesense. Could there be waves that someone calls scalar? Maybe. But the fact that they called them scalar makes me doubt it.

TheWanderer

@ParanoidPanda but plants have evolved randomly, with the ones that are most likely to survive, well.. surviving

that could include being poisonous or toxic like peppers

Kaz Wolfe

20:59

^--

TheWanderer

@Seth from what I know about scalars, it makes absolutely no sense

Seth

@ParanoidPanda get some pure clove oil. That stuff helps.

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