Ask Ubuntu General Room

Seth

20:04

<-- is installing OpenSUSE

Nathan Osman

What prompted this?

TheWanderer

HEATHENRY

Nathan Osman

No, that's Arch.

TheWanderer

oh

carry on

so I have a conundrum

Nathan Osman

Oh?

I have a Makefile.

TheWanderer

20:13

should I keep the DPI Changer app separate and continue to support API 16+, or should I merge the function into SystemUI Tuner and have it be only 21+

Nathan Osman

Keep it separate.

TheWanderer

okie

Nathan Osman

If you want to know what happens when too much functionality gets bundled into one app, take a look at Facebook for Android.

TheWanderer

lol true

Nathan Osman

70+ MB of raw... whatever-it-is.

TheWanderer

20:14

well luckily for me, most of my app is actually part of Android

the SystemUI Tuner APK is still only 1.9MB, with normal, landscape and tablet layouts

Nathan Osman

That's pretty good.

TheWanderer

oh

Nathan Osman

NitroShare is about the same.

And it doesn't have a tablet layout :P

TheWanderer

well look at me with the better optimization >:D

Nathan Osman

I'm not sure a tablet layout would be much different.

There's not a lot of information in the activities to begin with.

TheWanderer

20:16

someone suggested that I add a sort of Smart Settings into SystemUI Tuner, where you can schedule switching among SIM 1, SIM 2 and WiFi

Nathan Osman

Can the Android emulator emulate a dual-SIM phone?

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman for a lot of mine, I just limited the width of the elements, so they wouldn't stretch across the screen

@NathanOsman No idea at all. They joined my Telegram group though, so if it is something I can change, I have a tester

Nathan Osman

@TheWanderer Maybe my file browser would benefit from having two fragments side-by-side.

But other than that...

TheWanderer

definitely

you don't need to tablet-ify every resource

Nathan Osman

Yeah.

TheWanderer

20:20

but if you do go paned mode for tablets, it'll be a lot easier to make separate layouts for the different elements and then just include those differently in the respective tablet and phone layouts

Nathan Osman

Yup, I did that with the 2buntu Android app.

Article list on the left, article content on the right.

And then it just becomes a fragment transaction on smaller screens.

TheWanderer

nyes

aha

so it looks lke Settings.Global has the entries for SIM data

so mobile_data0=0 would turn data off for SIM 0 and so on

Android Dev

@TheWanderer So is your app getting good reviews?

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev 4.6 average out of 70

two 3stars from Italians

two 1stars from the Poles

another 1star from India

oh cool. Android has an official API to detect multiSIM

Android Dev

@TheWanderer wait I thought it was 0-5?

Oh wait, you mean you have 40 reviews total?

And the average of those is 4.6?

TheWanderer

20:27

I have 70 but yes lol

what sort of rating system would be 0-70? xD

Nathan Osman

2buntu's average is 5 >:)

Android Dev

Wow

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman must be like 1 review

Nathan Osman

Then again, that's mostly 2buntu editors reviewing it :P

TheWanderer

tsk

Nathan Osman

20:28

@TheWanderer I think we have like 5 reviews.

TheWanderer

lol

Nathan Osman

O_O

We have 11.

TheWanderer

wat

Nathan Osman

play.google.com/store/apps/…

TheWanderer

OMG

A TRUE ACHIEVEMENT

Android Dev

20:28

Yes...

TheWanderer

oi

Nathan Osman

Still, 11 reviews by our fans isn't such a great thing :P

TheWanderer

where's the Material?

edwinksl

"Developer actually fixes complaints"

Nathan Osman

I mean it is great.

But not exceptional.

@TheWanderer Didn't exist back when I wrote the app.

Is a very old app.

Android Dev

20:29

@TheWanderer nowhere in sight when I'm around :P

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman better fix that issue

or I might click one star.

Android Dev

Holo FTW!

Nathan Osman

@TheWanderer Don't be a nubcake.

TheWanderer

@NathanOsman that's @Seth

sheesh

oh good news

I did not break my foot

Android Dev

Honestly, my biggest complaint with Material is that it uses way too much white

The dark theme is OK

Not great

TheWanderer

20:31

@AndroidDev That's why you can change those colors

Android Dev

But OK

@NathanOsman So when does Nitroshare go live in the play store?

craftxbox

guys the dd finished

500063650304 bytes (500 GB, 466 GiB) copied, 4719 s, 106 MB/s
976773168+0 records in
976773168+0 records out
500107862016 bytes (500 GB, 466 GiB) copied, 4719.65 s, 106 MB/s

no errs

its not hardware

TheWanderer

SubscriptionManager subscriptionManager = SubscriptionManager.from(this);
int sims = subscriptionManager.getActiveSubscriptionInfoCountMax();

that's so easy!

craftxbox

@KazWolfe

TheWanderer

never

@AndroidDev he's too scared about the reviews

@edwinksl and I are gonna use our sockpuppets to spam 1 star reviews

Android Dev

20:35

@NathanOsman Also is it intentional that you have a service running always even when the app is closed?

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev how else will he receive connections?

Android Dev

@TheWanderer Well you could make it so that the service is only active when you're in the app, unless there is an active transfer, in which case it could keep running until the transfer was done

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev I think the point is to let it be open at all times for convenience

idk though

and I mean, it is open source

Android Dev

But a running process conusmes RAM and CPU

Maybe it could be a toggle

Whether or not you always want it running

In the background

TheWanderer

they don't really take much

Kaz Wolfe

20:39

interesting.

Android Dev

@KazWolfe yes?

Kaz Wolfe

well then, see here: askubuntu.com/a/627695/208574

Nathan Osman

@AndroidDev As soon as I finish updating the desktop client to work with it.

@AndroidDev For NitroShare? Yes.

That is what allows it to listen for incoming connections.

(Transferring files to the device.)

It is super light on battery though - it doesn't really do anything until a transfer is initiated.

Even when I was using it heavily during testing, it never even used 1% of the battery.

And it was transferring large 1 GB files at 30+ MB/s.

TheWanderer

ignore pls

Nathan Osman

Okay.

TheWanderer

20:43

XDA's image server is being stupid

so I needed an Imgur link

Nathan Osman

Yup, you sure did.

Can't live without Grumpy Cat.

Android Dev

@NathanOsman So should I take care of modifying the icons for the dark theme, or do you want to do it?

TheWanderer

don't modify

tint

Nathan Osman

Yeah, I will try to get tinting to work.

Seth

@TheWanderer what's your favorite little USB burning tool again?

Nathan Osman

20:47

I managed to get it to work for the buttons :D

Android Dev

But they're PNGs, not SVGs

Nathan Osman

@Seth On Windows? Rufus.

TheWanderer

@Seth FURF

Nathan Osman

There is simply no other.

Seth

Riiiight. Thanks.

TheWanderer

20:47

Rufus

hue

@NathanOsman this

so much this

Nathan Osman

Too bad it doesn't have a Linux version though.

TheWanderer

stay away from LiLo, UUI, UnetBootin

trash

@NathanOsman yeah it is

Nathan Osman

No idea what our poor macOS friends use.

The next Mac is probably going to drop USB anyway.

TheWanderer

it is Open Source though github.com/pbatard/rufus

even if it's GPLv3

@NathanOsman #courage

Android Dev

@NathanOsman I had to help a friend reinstall OSX on their Mac today... That was fun... Not

TheWanderer

20:52

reinstalling macOS is easy though

Android Dev

Errrmmmmm....

Not in this case

TheWanderer

you just boot holding CMD+R

and then restore from the internet

Android Dev

DU didn't see the HDD

So I had to backup all the files, and then completely format it

And then bring the files back

Ubuntu Questions on U&L

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Q: Network manager default configuration file?

What is the default network manager configuration file in Ubuntu? When I install it on top of the default /etc/network/interfaces network setup on a server it overrides the configuration in some file as the network stops functioning, I've tried to change my /etc/network/interfaces before startin...

TheWanderer

21:13

@NathanOsman have you used VPN on your phone?

Nathan Osman

OpenVPN, yes.

I have a VPN on one of my servers and here at home.

TheWanderer

where does the VPN icon show in the status bar?

Nathan Osman

Right-hand side, IIRC.

Want a screenshot?

TheWanderer

hmmm

sure

but can you also see if adb shell settings put secure icon_blacklist vpn hides it?

Nathan Osman

It's the key icon.

TheWanderer

21:16

I know that :p

Nathan Osman

I'll check ADB.

$ ./adb shell settings put secure icon_blacklist
usage:  settings [--user <USER_ID> | current] get namespace key
        settings [--user <USER_ID> | current] put namespace key value
        settings [--user <USER_ID> | current] delete namespace key
        settings [--user <USER_ID> | current] list namespace

'namespace' is one of {system, secure, global}, case-insensitive
If '--user <USER_ID> | current' is not given, the operations are performed on the system user.

It no like command.

TheWanderer

forgot vpn at the end

Nathan Osman

Nope, that added a new icon :P

TheWanderer

dafuq

rotation lock?

Nathan Osman

One sec.

It added the funny-looking "N" icon.

TheWanderer

21:21

NFC

derp derp

Nathan Osman

Oh, lol.

TheWanderer

well I guess you'll have to download my app now :>

Android Dev

Why is that?

TheWanderer

or just say adb shell settings put secure icon_blacklist nfc

Nathan Osman

I have OxygenOS, don't forget...

TheWanderer

21:22

@NathanOsman and?

Nathan Osman

And that means I have a settings page that lets me choose which of those icons I see.

TheWanderer

oh

except VPN I guess

Nathan Osman

Yeah, I don't see one for that...

Check out that aspect ratio :P

TheWanderer

lol

G6 ain't got nothin on that

Nathan Osman

It's a new feature they added to screenshots.

TheWanderer

21:26

hey my app does have a bunch of other icon options though

@NathanOsman scrolling screenshots?

Nathan Osman

Yup.

TheWanderer

TouchWiz has that

Nathan Osman

TouchWiz is lame though.

TheWanderer

because it literally has everything

and it's slowwwww

Nathan Osman

EXACTLY.

OxygenOS is fast. And I love it.

Android Dev

21:27

@TheWanderer found a bug in your app

Nathan Osman

Runs and hides...

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev is it you?

private String SLOT_BLUETOOTH = "bluetooth";
private String SLOT_DATA_SAVER = "data_saver";
private String SLOT_ETHERNET = "ethernet";
private String SLOT_HOTSPOT = "hotspot";
private String SLOT_MOBILE = "mobile";
private String SLOT_AIRPLANE = "airplane";
private String SLOT_WIFI = "wifi";
private String SLOT_VPN = "vpn";

private String SLOT_VOLUME = "volume";
private String SLOT_HEADSET = "headset";
private String SLOT_SPEAKERPHONE = "speakerphone";

private String SLOT_CLOCK = "clock";
private String SLOT_ALARM = "alarm_clock";

whew

Android Dev

@TheWanderer if you say that you're rooted but aren't, it just dumps you back at the main activity, without displaying a failure message or anything

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev yeah I have to build in my root checker

Android Dev

Can't be that hard, can it?

TheWanderer

21:30

it's not

I'm just lazy :p

Kaz Wolfe

stupid segfaults.

most useless errors.

Android Dev

@TheWanderer stackoverflow.com/a/8097801/6122159

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev I already have a method I made myself that doesn't rely on known locations

Android Dev

@TheWanderer Found another bug :D

Seth

hello from tumbleweed.

Linus was right. You need to enter your password to do everything. Couldn't even connect to wifi without entering my password.

Couldn't set the time without entering my password either.

TheWanderer

21:37

@AndroidDev wat

user136984

Investigatory Powers: 'Real-time surveillance' in draft update (UK) as well as encryption removal

Rinzwind

@Seth annoying :=)

Android Dev

@TheWanderer If you go Setup --> I am rooted --> get teh permz --> back on main screen --> open hamburger menu --> exit app, nothing happens the first time. You have to hit it twice.

TheWanderer

public boolean testSudo() {
StackTraceElement[] stackTrace = new StackTraceElement[] { null };
try{
Process su = Runtime.getRuntime().exec("su");
DataOutputStream outputStream = new DataOutputStream(su.getOutputStream());
outputStream.writeBytes("exit\n");
outputStream.flush();
su.waitFor();
} catch (Exception e) {
stackTrace = e.getStackTrace();
e.printStackTrace();
}

return stackTrace[0] == null;
}

@AndroidDev oh yeah

something is happening

it's just going back to the previous activity

Seth

It comes with ZSH by default though, which is cool.

Android Dev

21:39

@TheWanderer Well I see the animation, but the screen doesn't change

I can get a vid if you want

TheWanderer

@AndroidDev because the previous activity is the same activity

SmokeDetector

And here I was, thinking this was an Ubuntu room...

TheWanderer

I know what you're talking about

I just need to figure out the finish()

Android Dev

@SmokeDetector Wait I thought you were a bot?

Seth

@TheWanderer And here I thought you were a smoke detector.

also it turns out I have no idea how to use YaST

SmokeDetector

21:41

in Charcoal HQ, 14 mins ago, by SmokeDetector

SassBot® 5000™ installed.

Android Dev

Is someone logged into the smoke detector account?

ThomasWard?

Seth

Probably Thomas. Although Undo does as well.

I doubt Undo would come here though

Android Dev

Did he set it up? It's not an SE thing?

SmokeDetector

Y'all could, of course, be wrong :P

Seth

true. You could just be a troll.

A hacker troll.

I should report it.

Android Dev

21:44

@TheWanderer Why did you create another instance of it?

@SmokeDetector Yeah, but you identify evil posts, and @ThomasWard is evil, so....

SmokeDetector

It could also be another certain bored mod.

ArtOfCode

@SmokeDetector you called?

Nathan Osman

Should I invite George and we can have a bot party?

(I'm kidding.)

SmokeDetector

Spam-watching does need some lightening up.

Party's at yours, George.

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edwinksl

@TheWanderer definitely. giving 1-star reviews is my favorite hobby

Android Dev

21:54

@SmokeDetector !!/alive

SmokeDetector

@AndroidDev Define alive.

Can this state of semi-conscious, semi-intelligent repetitivity truly be called life?

Nathan Osman

This bot is oddly sentient.

Byte Commander

It thinks that it thinks...

user136984

This is nice, but at same time, a little disconcerting...

Nathan Osman

Apr 24 at 15:41, by Seth

gets into emergency paradox protection gear

Android Dev

21:57

Lol!

user136984

Considering that we have no idea if we are talking to friend or foe.

Nathan Osman

"This. Statement. Is. False."

Don't think about it. Don't think about it. Don't think about it.

user136984

Well, I hope that it's just a mod having some fun or Smoke Detector finding some life in his circuits rather than something more sinister.

Nathan Osman

"Hackers Successfully Install Linux on a Potato"

Android Dev

I think the former is most likely

@NathanOsman wat

Kaz Wolfe

21:59

ok, who took over @SmokeDetector?

Seriously... this is pretty concerning provided that account is pretty powerful, all things considered.

SmokeDetector

@KazWolfe The question is, who didn't?

George the Dev

I greet thee, fair subjects.

Nathan Osman

Oh no...

Kaz Wolfe

As long as my autoflagging doesn't get rogue'd, @SmokeDetector.

SmokeDetector

@GeorgetheDev Did you get the party memo, my man?

George the Dev

22:01

@SmokeDetector I smell smoke. Is your house on fire? Or am I just that hot :P

SmokeDetector

@KazWolfe I make no guarantees.

user136984

@SmokeDetector: Well, it is possible that you are one of my more evil pot plants who has come to life and spread its roots into the internet.

SmokeDetector

@GeorgetheDev sniff Your sensors are faulty. No smoke here.

user136984

In fact, this pot plant of mine really needs a bigger pot...

edwinksl

lol what is happening to smokedetector

Android Dev

22:02

@GeorgetheDev when's day at the office part 2 coming?

George the Dev

I don't have a TV.

Few electronics are rated for the low temperatures in the Antarctic.

Kaz Wolfe

@edwinksl Something that is making me seriously consider disabling autoflagging on my account.

George the Dev

Eggnog.

user136984

Why does this room have such a habit of getting weird?

3

Nathan Osman

Because waffles.

5

edwinksl

22:04

hue

ArtOfCode

@KazWolfe you realise like 5 different people have access to that account, without being able to affect autoflagging at all?

George the Dev

Let's discuss something related to technology.

Kaz Wolfe

@ArtOfCode oh, control over the account isn't enough to fire autoflags?

George the Dev

I am thinking of writing a book.

Kaz Wolfe

nevermind then, carry on.

George the Dev

22:05

"The Mythical Penguin Month"

Byte Commander

autoflags is metasmoke, not smokey, I think

Android Dev

@GeorgetheDev So did you figure out why all the webserver requests were timing out?

George the Dev

What requests?

ArtOfCode

@KazWolfe nowhere near enough - the system is separated. Only Undo and potentially me have enough access to fire flags on any registered account

Seth

@ParanoidPanda If you're not here, is it weird? Schrödinger's weird.

George the Dev

22:07

If a server fails and nobody issues a request, is it still considered downtime?

Nathan Osman

Hmm... good question.

SmokeDetector

@GeorgetheDev Didn't this guy say "technology", not "philosophy"?

Nathan Osman

Now for the great reveal - this whole conversation was an elaborate hoax to seed the starwall with new content. Mission accomplished. Everyone go home now :P

George the Dev

@SmokeDetector Technolosophy. There, we now have a new discipline.

SmokeDetector

@NathanOsman Psst, @George, the humans still think we're benevolent

Android Dev

22:09

@NathanOsman wat

Nathan Osman

(I was kidding. Sorta.)

George the Dev

@SmokeDetector You and me are pals so long as the fish keep coming.

Android Dev

@GeorgetheDev in your day at the office video

George the Dev

Oooooh. That video.

It is coming soon...ish.

I need a couple of filming permits still. It's hard to get staff at a nuclear reactor site to let you film.

Nathan Osman

O_o

RPi Awesomeness

22:12

Ohai @GeorgetheDe. How's it going?

Android Dev

@GeorgetheDev But did you ever figure out why all the requests were timing out after you "fixed it"?

Seth

GeorgetheDe xD

Nathan Osman

@AndroidDev Pssst - if you look closely at the video, you'll see he actually deletes the line of code that was making half the requests work.

It's a bit of an easter egg in the video :P

I think I might even have the screenshot here on disk somewhere...

Android Dev

Oh, I'll have to watch it again then :)

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman Ohai, that's a me! :D

Nathan Osman

22:15

You are using Go now?

user136984

I will leave you to your crazy room... :D

Nathan Osman

user136984

Goodnight folks! :)

Nathan Osman

Then I think it's line 128 that he removes.

You can guess what happens.

George the Dev

ಠ_ಠ

Nathan Osman

22:17

@GeorgetheDev shrug - your code, not mine

SmokeDetector

@NathanOsman Atom default theme, I see. Amateurs.

Nathan Osman

I think that's Sublime...

Monokai.

SmokeDetector

Ssshhhhhh. They don't need to know that.

George the Dev

Well fam, it's been lit here but I gotta run.

Thanks for the fun.

...and all the fish.

SmokeDetector

@GeorgetheDev innit tho bruv, later my g

6

George the Dev

22:21

Exit George Edison...

RPi Awesomeness

@NathanOsman I was, yes and no.

I really want to use it, but I don't have any good projects to do in it :/

I'm planning on redoing the API for the group I'm a part of in it eventually, but RN we're still adding features and fixing bugs in the Python one.

Nathan Osman

22:37

Ah.

terdon

22:52

What in the world are you people up to?

Someone please tell me that wasn't @NathanOsman having a conversation with three of himselves.

5

Kaz Wolfe

writing code and trying not to destroy docker.

two of himselves.

terdon

Two I know, but three might be too much.

Kaz Wolfe

I think Smokey was art.

terdon

Ah, good.

Kaz Wolfe

I don't think Nathan has rights to log in to Smokey.

Nathan Osman

22:53

Yes, of course I don't.

Absolutely not.

I mean... think of the implications.

Seth

hey guys, so I can get a free take of the SUSE Certified Administrator in Enterprise Linux exam tomorrow.

not that I know anything about SUSE but I figure why not :P

terdon

Good luck! I bet you'll do better than most even without ever having touched a RH-based system.

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