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@RolandTaylor Fail
:P
What a stupid name for the operation! Maybe we should get Linus to sue them :P
I hate how the Register is always translating things via Google Translate
like no one at the register speaks spanish?!
Maybe in a few years @JorgeCastro I'll apply for a sys admin job at Canonical/Ubuntu
00:24
Hmmm... Qt signals are really starting to get confusing now.
Seems like I started an argument on #qt.
not cool
Microsoft has a majority market share in the new desktop PC marketplace. This is a bug, which Ubuntu is designed to fix. Non-free software is holding back innovation in the IT industry, restricting access to IT to a small part of the world's population and limiting the ability of software developers to reach their full potential, globally. This bug is widely evident in the PC industry. Steps to repeat: 1. Visit a local PC store. What happens: 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software pre-installed. 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed. What should happen: 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like Ubuntu. 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and benefits would be apparent and known by all. 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
Ubuntu
Critical / In Progress
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Good, We still get Bug Resolution in the chat
You know what I hate. When it dawns on you that you're fat. It's like the worst feeling in the world
00:45
O.O
ikr
@Oli I found your counterpart on the Linux/Unix site: Gilles
Oli
Oli
@MarcoCeppi Yeah it noticed that earlier today
The point distribution amongst the top users is actually strikingly similar
@Oli I think we have a tighter gap, but yeah. There's the One super star, then a hoard of high rep users behind that one person
Ours is 14.3k > 10.1K > 9,8,7k
Theirs is 13K > 7K > 4,3,2
So, not to put you down or anything, but Gilles has a really big points spread compared to us
You are still our Super Star after all :D
Oli
Oli
Considering they have fewer questions too (by quite a distance), he's done very well
I can't log into chat via chrome...
00:53
@TheX You might need to log out/in again on the main site
@MarcoCeppi I tried that
chat.SE uses HTML5 localstorage to share sessions between sites and such
I'm on Chrome.
@iamsid same, it's likely just a weird cookie issue
@MarcoCeppi Yea
Unix & Linux is outta beta?
00:56
it keeps sending me here
@TheX Have you visisted the Global Auth test page?
@MarcoCeppi Cool. :)
everything was succesful
I love the /Directory look. :)
there we go
01:02
back
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Shopping

Proposed Q&A site for people that are tired of high prices and poor quality products. Q&A is hard, let's go shopping!

Currently in defintion.

wow no more freezing on firefox 4
Awesome proposal :)
@RolandTaylor new update?
@TheX nope
not sure what it is
01:04
hmm
hi @RolandTaylor :)
Only 2 hours late :P
Oh no...
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Ubuntu 10.10

Proposed Q&A site for specifically users and developers of Ubuntu 10.10

Currently in defintion.

@GeorgeEdison It'll get merged...
@lazyPower lol
01:13
It's already been merged. It was made by the biggest troll since what's his name
@GeorgeEdison is there an addon for firefox that gives the notify-osd popups in this chat?
@Roland: Not yet.
> "that community is too big. Ubuntu 11.04 will introduce a lot of bad ideas, and I'm quite sure a sizable percentage of Linux users will want to stick with 10.10 indefinitely, or until Canonical sees the errors in their ways."
LOL. LOL. LOL.
@Marco: "he-who-shall-not-be-named?"
@GeorgeEdison Voldemort?
I was talking about the Sockpuppet guy.
I just can't rememeber his name
01:15
YES, him
Aka: Geoffrey Chetwood.
01:34
panorama - ftw
hi
@RolandTaylor What's that?
and he's all white and nerdy... i dig it
@GeorgeEdison thats FF4's tab-entity-manager
Productivity tool +1
01:39
@GeorgeEdison awesomesauce
@RolandTaylor nice docky setup btw. Looks slick
thanks :D
the bottom one is awn
02:36
hey guys
Hey @garbagecollector Long time no see!
yeah i know man
been super busy with work
how you been?
Just about the same as you :P
haha
for old times sake i got a problem
i did a regular update
and my gui died. i keep booting into tty
ideas why?
Do you know what updates where coming down?
02:39
no i usually dont pay attention
I have no clue on how to troubleshoot this
So, is it running in a TTY now - or did you reboot?
I dont know what happened
it only runs in tty
I dual boot the machine I am on now, i am in windows now
Wubi or partitioned?
partitioned
come on; those are fighting words :P
Hum, well if you can get console access you can run a reinstall on the x-server
02:47
okay how do i do that?
@MarcoCeppi how fluent in hash tables are you?
@lazyPower Haven't touched the devils in a bit over a year
What did you have in mind?
@MarcoCeppi How to deal with rude comments? Not on mine! :) If someone makes a condescending comment on a fairly good answer by a guy who's eager to contribute.
@MarcoCeppi was curious how they index but i realized after i asked that i'm talking about a syntax specific application that you dont write for.
@iamsid If you're not sure - just flag it. Moderators will remove if it's offensive, or comment to say "Stop it!"
@lazyPower Well in it's simplest form it's just a hashing function that stores the unique hash as a primary key. We do something like that in a few applications I've written. Like ShortURLs and such
02:53
@lazyPower what is it that you need to do ?
@MarcoCeppi All righty.
I'm pulling data from a SQL Server in EntitySpaces, and I need to pass an entire column to a helping function to databind DropDownList entities
I thought Hash Tables would be the ticket but I think i'm over complicating it
@lazyPower Barring the fact that I don't have any .NET or ASP knowledge: Could you take the result set and pass it as an assoc array - or as a pseudo-object?
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Q: How to reinstall xserver?

garbagecollectorI have recently killed xserver on my machine after a regular update. I have uninstalled and reinstalled nvidia-current with no success. Looks I have reinstall xserver. How do i achieve this? Please and thank you.

:)
@garbagecollector That would be the BEST place for that question :)
03:05
How/(From where) do I learn SO-etiquette? I just learnt through experience that cross-posting is rude.
Parse through meta.stackoverflow?
@iamsid It's funny because we were just talking about that post. We weren't sure about double posting either untill we found the topic on m.so
I would not recommend parsing through m.so - it's huge
Best way is to just, learn though experience. If you have a question you can always ask here or search for it in m.so
@MarcoCeppi :) I guess it'll be better to ask here first. It's bad for my ego to have my questions closed or downvoted! :P
03:58
iTroll, iTroll, iTrollololol
 
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It's too quiet here...
 
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08:25
aye :)
morning @groovehunter
 
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10:51
@groovehunter are you there?
@groovehunter I've edited your answer here, assuming you were quoting and that you and Srigelsford aren't the same person. If I've made a mistake, you can click on "edited x minutes ago" and select "rollback" to undo my changes.
11:29
hi@MarcoCeppi :)
anyone here?
11:41
@KaustubhP I am now :)
hey!
do all scripts need to have a shebang?
12:01
@KaustubhP Nope, not at all. You only need that shebang (#!/PATH) when you plan on running scripts without first envoking the path to the interpreter
IE: If you write this in python
# I AM PYTHON HEAR ME squeeeze!
print "Hello, World!"
Then run python helloworld.py
It'll work! However if you try to do this, it won't
chmod +x helloworld.py
./helloworld.py
Because the terminal won't know what interpreter to parse the script with when that bang line isn't present
@MarcoCeppi k, but wont it run as bash helloworld.py ?
$ chmod +x hw.py
$ ./hw.py
Warning: unknown mime-type for "hellow orld" -- using "application/octet-stream"
Error: no such file "hellow orld"
$ cat hw.py
print "hellow orld"
ohk, got it
i am just getting comfartable with all things shell :)
@KaustubhP To answer your question - the fill will attempt to be interpreted which whatever shell is trying to run it. So as BASH, ZSH, SH, etc.
$ print "hello world"
Warning: unknown mime-type for "hello world" -- using "application/octet-stream"
Error: no such file "hello world"
12:18
it should just print it, right?
why is it warning us?
Because print is not the same as echo in bash
$ print --help
Use: /usr/bin/print <--action=VAL> [--debug] [MIME-TYPE:[ENCODING:]]FILE [...]

Options:
  action        specify what action to do on these files (default=view)
  debug         be verbose about what's going on
  nopager       ignore any "copiousoutput" directives and never use a "pager"
  norun         just print but don't execute the command (useful with --debug)

Mime-Type:
  any standard mime type designation in the form <class>/<subtype> -- if
  not specified, it will be determined from the filename extension
This function uses the mc5p or mc4 and mc5 capabilities, if they are present, to ship given data to a printer attached to the terminal. Note that the mcprint code has no way to do flow control with the printer or to know how much buffering it has. Your application is responsible for keeping the rate of writes to the printer below its continuous throughput rate (typically about half of its nominal cps rating). Dot-matrix printers and 6-page-per-minute lasers can typically handle 80cps, so a good conservative rule of thumb is to sleep for a second after shipping each 80-character line.
ahh, got it
#!/bin/sh
####################################
#
# Stop Running Services with upstart
#
#
####################################

service apache2 stop

service mysql stop

service rabbitmq-server stop

service mongodb stop

service jetty stop
how does that look to stop rnning ervices on my server?
12:35
does this seem correct?
13:20
@KaustubhP I would use /bin/bash but that's just me
@MarcoCeppi lol, i thought u were pissed :P
@StefanoPalazzo is BUS the actual system BUS or DBUS?
at my stupid questions!
@KaustubhP Nope! I just had to head to work :P
@MarcoCeppi that's the PCIe bus, for example (I understand there's some abstraction going on on the bus, like DMA and PIO)
I'm unsure about drawing windows, it's either metacity → compiz → xorg, or metacity → xorg → compiz → xorg
13:22
@KaustubhP You shouldn't take offense (I know I used to) when people disappear from chat. I typically found it's because "real life" has stolen them away :P
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@StefanoPalazzo It's either Compiz or Metacity - never both?
Oh of course, you're right - that'd be clutter (w/ mutter)
I'll upload the latest version
@MarcoCeppi lol, good point! nah, i want taking offence :P you have any good places from where to learn shell programming? I need to pragram using some parameters that need to be passed to the script.
@StefanoPalazzo Okay, I was like "AFAIK, and I don't know much, but Compiz is just a composting window manager" :P
as far as I can tell, this thing is going to become a real monster of a diagram when I'm finished (I never know where to stop elaborating, it could be infinitely big)
@KaustubhP Really, I usually never just "read" books - I typically just Google things. You'll want to use getops to get parameters. So I'd start there - and when I need to look stuff up I usually use tldp.org/LDP/abs/html
@StefanoPalazzo Doesn't, and believe me when I say - I HAVE NO IDEA, but doesn't the DE talk directly to xorg which would then do the talk to compiz and return the data from compiz to the DE?
13:35
this is from the people at wayland
Booyah! that's awesome
suggests otherwise, but I've no idea how accurate it is
So the DE which would be an xclient speaks to the xserver which then talks to the compositor I'd remove the arrow from Gnome to Compiz and put two way arrows between x.org and Gnome
@MarcoCeppi will do! (thanks for your help on this I've never been so confused :P)
I'm actually glad you found that other diagram because my previous statement was just speculation based on my loose understanding of the Ubuntu stack
13:40
hopefully, It's going to look like this very soon (:
Well, it'll likely be some time - but the Wayland approach makes sense. X server existed in a time when 3D meant you turned around from the computer screen to play Atari, it's old, like real old and has held it's own but eventually you just need to clear the slate and start from the beginning in a new ear
So building the compositor into the display server cuts off a lot of overhead in a world where the majority of modern PCs support compositing
As long as x-forwarding over ssh still works, I'm happy :)
I'm sure that'll be integrated somehow (maybe trough a nested minimal X.org for legacy stuff)
I wouldn't be too hard (Well impossible for me, but conceptually) to make Wayland X-Forwarding compatible since X Server is opensource and what not.
yeah
depends on how well the protocol is documented (I'm guessing very well, because there certainly has been enough time!) :>
allright, the rep train is rolling.
I hope people will still point out errors, when this post has 7 votes or so :\ (hopefully, they won't just assume it's correct)
14:06
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Q: What does all CAPITAL letters typically refer to in writing?

Marco CeppiIn many error messages and conversations, I come across words in all CAPITAL letters. As demonstrated in the examples below: ERROR: Please type your e-mail address. Or ME: I can't make it SHE: I HATE you. ME: I'm soo sorry. What is the typical meaning or reason for these all CAPITAL w...

I just re-read that post and realized how HORRIBLE my spelling and grammar is. The problem is: I have no idea what the right way is.
Nice question anyway1
It's really because I want to be a smart ass for this bug
phew
"the European translator monkeys"
how nice (:
Yeah, so you can imagine I'm just going to let this guy get it.
So far:
You don't see all capital words in dictionaries because it's not spellings it's a punctuation/grammatical format. All caps typically denotes two things: Empasis or Yelling. Either case works for this case - It's not meant to be

"Good day user, there seems to be an error. Be a sport and type in your e-mail address"

But rather

"HEY, USER! (yelling) THERE'S A PROBLEM! ATTENTION! ERROR. Type in your email address please"
As soon as I get confirmation I'll post the link then let it fly
that seems very good (clear and useful +1)
Just noticed that python properly capitalises the word "Errno"
14:13
PHP does all caps
So, PHP is spelled in SHOUTCASE, but the logo shows lowercase letters. They're probably just keeping with tradition, of not having any consistency
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@MarcoCeppi the title of the question should be "what do all caps..." no?
@StefanoPalazzo Well PHP is a recursive Acronym for PHP Hypertext Preprocessor - but used to stand for Personal Home Pages
@StefanoPalazzo THANK YOU :)
__YOU|RE WELCOME__
(remember those? they used to mean the same thing as underlined text I think)
14:48
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A: What do all CAPITAL letters typically refer to in writing?

Roland TaylorALL CAPS ON THE INTERNET IS OFTEN A MISTAKE OF OLDER OR LESS EXPERIENCED COMPUTER USERS WHO USE CAPSLOCK AND FORGET THAT IT IS ENABLED. GENERALLY, WHEN IT IS NOT A MISTAKE, IT DENOTES SHOUTING, EMPHASIS, IMPORTANCE, OR URGENCY. IT CAN ALSO BE USED IN SCENARIOS WHERE CLEAR TEXT IS REQUIRED - THO...

takes a bow
15:13
HOW TO DEAL WITH PARITIALLY DUPALICATEZ QUESTIONZ????
(in a polite soft tone)
@iamsid LAEVE COMMENT THAT SASY POSSIBLE DUPLICATE: [EARL TO POSSIBLE DUPLICATE]
Or Simillar, but not duplicated by: [URL]
If you think it's close, or unsure, just flag it :)
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Q: How to make sudo remember my password and how to add an application to startup

BragboyI guess this should be a simple thing for ubuntu users out there. I have two questions. Whenever I need to run some command that requires permission from root, I run as sudo followed by that command. It would be nice if that does not prompt for password (but I should still be issuing a sudo to ...

1. 2 questions in 1 question.
2. 2nd question is a dupe.
Yeah, I would first say: Don't ask two questions in one question
Then I would tell him: Your second question is answered here. Remove it from your main question, dummy! :p
:) Haha
Andddd @Karthick87 shouldn't be an enabler and answer both questions in one :P
15:18
:P
@MarcoCeppi What's your reputation?
But in chat it shows 10K that is why i asked.
Because that's my combined reputation from all the SE sites
@karthick87 That's the aggregate of all SO sites
15:28
since chat is now hosted on chat.se
Oke :)
@karthick87 Could you donate me some of your reputation?
LOL :)
:P
soccer.stackexchange has a potential to be huge
@MarcoCeppi How to flip the screen upside down???
15:32
@karthick87 Grab both sides of the monitor, lift, rotate 180 degrees, gently set down.
Haha! I remember the "How to put Trash on my desktop?" question in one of the forums. :P
@karthick87 xrandr -o inverted
And then, ask Batman to enter this: xrandr -o normal
@iamsid How to set it back?
1. Find Batman. 2.Ask Batman to enter this: xrandr -o normal
Oops thank you :)
Ubuntu ad (Italiano)
15:40
@RolandTaylor Ha! Your answer on marco's question made me lolirl :D
@STEFANO ROLAND IZ DA MAAN.
I do so love the internets :-)
I WONDER HOU PEEPAL SPENT DER TAIM DURING OLDE STOEN AEG.
@iamsid I'm going to do an Ubuntu spot for Klingon
15:43
@iamsid they had much less of it
@MarcoCeppi +1
@StefanoPalazzo -1.32210033
I wish SO supported -ve reputation. I know a guy who has -700 or somethin' but it's shown as 1
I bet it would turn into a contest
15:47
I wish it was 23:50 UTC :P
I always feel a bit silly when I post answers even though I'm almost at my daily cap - dunno why
Aim for the higher good. :P
@iamsid I know him for At.se
@StefanoPalazzo He's everywhere. Troll of the month here on SE
15:49
He has proposed an SO for junkies
As well as Ubuntu 10.10
In fairness, I told this guy he was a troll and he calmy listened to my reasons and respected my opinion
He's lovin' it.
he seemed really nice, apart from what he does all the time
Yes!
Humans are incredible!
15:51
@StefanoPalazzo that's because he's a career troll
I see what you mean @Marco, and it looks like I may have been feeding him :)
@StefanoPalazzo I forgot to ask you about Ubuntu Membership; how did it go?
I know it's been over a month.
@iamsid my meeting's not until the 1st of february, Jorge recommended i wait a bit longer
I'm sure he has a wife, kids, plays golf, enjoys action movies, drives a decent sedan. Gets to work, puts his lunch which consists of leftovers in the fridge, sits down and cleans his inbox, then opens a browser in private browsing mode and trolls.
and this months meeting has been cancelled (quorum wasn't met)
15:53
@StefanoPalazzo Oh! You're a student, right?
Deutschland.
that's right
We have some universities too :P
Really!!??
:P
A friend of mine has just gone to cambridge for a year. I'm so unbelievably jealous it's not normal...
Happy for her of course, but boiling with jealousy at the same time (:
15:57
Hehe! Happens! :)
Is that jealousy or that you'd want to be at Cam?
I want to go there (as well) :)
How to convert .mkv to .avi format?Is there any converter for that?
you're from Somerset right?
mencoder
I'm from Mars. :P
@karthick87 try HandBrake (big fan here) (handbrake.fr)
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