Ask Ubuntu General Room

Stefano Palazzo

18:00

I thought that was the Mayas?

TheX

@StefanoPalazzo maybe it was... shows you how much I believe in this crap

Paul Fisher

@TheX the incas only predicted the delicious taste of Inka Kola, the Golden Kola

Stefano Palazzo

but they knew so much more than us :) which was why their life expectancy was around 22 years :P

Paul Fisher

(if only I actually got paid for that, or had ever had any before. I just have a friend who raved about it)

TheX

did they invent the interwebs?

Paul Fisher

18:05

@TheX no, that's why they had time to predict the end of the world

Stefano Palazzo

yes they did, of course they didn't call it that, but their processors had a ternary system (with -1, 0 and 1 instead of 0 and 1). And it was called the Kinich Ahau Core i7

TheX

is it yes or no?

Paul Fisher

@TheX to answer your question in the strictest sense possible, yes, it was yes or no.

Stefano Palazzo

TheX

@PaulFisher that is useless

Paul Fisher

18:09

@TheX :)

TheX

the world is going to end in 708 days

17 hours, 1 minute, 19 seconds

enjoy it while you have it folks

Stefano Palazzo

oh my word

is that counting leap seconds?

TheX

I would assume so

Leap second

{| class="wikitable" style="float:right; margin-right: 0; margin-left: 1em; text-align: center;" |+ Leap seconds to date |- ! Year !! Jun 30 !! Dec 31 |- ! 1972 |bgcolor="lime"| +1 ||bgcolor="lime"| +1 |- ! 1973 | 0 ||bgcolor="lime"| +1 |- ! 1974 | 0 ||bgcolor="lime"| +1 |- ! 1975 | 0 ||bgcolor="lime"| +1 |- ! 1976 | 0 ||bgcolor="lime"| +1 |- ! 1977 | 0 ||bgcolor="lime"| +1 |- ! 1978 | 0 ||bgcolor="lime"| +1 |- ! 1979 | 0 ||bgcolor="lime"| +1 |- ! 1980 | 0 || 0 |- ! 1981 |bgcolor="lime"| +1 || 0 |- ! 1982 |bgcolor="lime"| +1 || 0 |- ! 1983 |bgcolor="lime"| +1 || 0 |- ! 1984 | 0 || 0 |- ! 19...

odd

Stefano Palazzo

does not compute

TheX

maybe because the leap second is a myth

Paul Fisher

18:13

wake up sheeple

google leap second

TheX

google is not a reliable source to debunk a myth

George Edison

@Stefano: Thanks for the test.

I see there's still a glitch somewhere.

TheX

this is interesting though

Clock drift

Clock drift refers to several related phenomena where a clock does not run at the exact right speed compared to another clock. That is, after some time the clock "drifts apart" from the other clock. This phenomenon is also used for instance in computers to build random number generators. On the negative side, clock drift can be exploited by timing attacks. Clock drift in normal clocks Normal clocks such as clocks at home and wristwatches usually drift compared to the actual time. This is why it is necessary to reset them occasionally. Clocks often drift differently depending on their qu...

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison you're welcome, I have fun doing them
by the way, I didn't mention all of the tests it passed :)

TheX

hmmm time is relative to the observer...

so that means it doesn't really exist...

George Edison

18:17

@TheX: Yes it does.

TheX

@GeorgeEdison you don't have to believe the lies to gain our acceptance, we will accept you no matter what

Stefano Palazzo

within reason

:P

TheX

right of course... we don't like serial killers...

Paul Fisher

@TheX not me, I insist that you believe the lies

TheX

I will not listen to the lies, I will not listen to the lies

George Edison

18:22

@Stefano: What did you have to do to get it to crash? I ran your python script but the script just hangs after a few seconds.

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison it's a glitch in python, you can trigger it by disabling all but one of your cores. Well It's not a glitch, it's by design.

it's to do with the global interpreter lock

hang on that doesn't make any sense at all

lol, I'm a little confused :) I've no idea why it crashes for you.

George Edison

The script just hangs with a number of esceptions.

Such as:

`Exception in thread Thread-735:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py", line 532, in __bootstrap_inner
self.run()
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/threading.py", line 484, in run
self.__target(*self.__args, **self.__kwargs)
File "jetftptest.py", line 27, in <lambda>
ftp.retrbinary("RETR test.txt", file_recieved_callback)).start()
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/ftplib.py", line 398, in retrbinary
conn = self.transfercmd(cmd, rest)
File "/usr/lib/python2.6/ftplib.py", line 360, in transfercmd

Stefano Palazzo

yes that's the expected behaviour

of sorts.

but it should just continue until the server has crashed

George Edison

Hmm... the loop goes from 1-1000?

Stefano Palazzo

and then hang

no idea, I've deleted it already :)

oh @GeorgeEdison you did create a ramdisk to do this, right?

George Edison

18:29

Oh, no.

Just a folder ramdisk.

Stefano Palazzo

I'm not certain, but it can make all the difference, because disk writes are cached and double-cached, and they are slow (extremely slow, compared to ram)

not fast enough to overwhelm the server

George Edison

I see.

Stefano Palazzo

sudo mke2fs -m 0 /dev/ram0
mkdir ramdisk
sudo mount /dev/ram0 ramdisk/
sudo chown george ramdisk/

George Edison

Great!

(Had to change the last one, my username isn't george :) )

Stefano Palazzo

I've been putting this off, but now I'm gonna go find out your real name :)

TheX

18:33

I would like a taco

George Edison

Hmmm...

It still doesn't crash.

Even with the ramdisk.

Stefano Palazzo

mh..

perhaps it's to do with me using the 32 bit build? (don't know why, I'm making stuff up now)

George Edison

I have a VM with 32bit Ubuntu.

I'll try that.

Stefano Palazzo

got it

TheX

anyone ever here of coreboot?

George Edison

18:38

Isn't that a Mac thing?

Stefano Palazzo

i heard about it from a conference, many years ago

and thought, at first, that it was a mac thing ;)

George Edison

Nope, not a Mac thing.

TheX

@GeorgeEdison no it is to be a replacement for proprietary BIOS systems

George Edison

Does it work at all?

Can I replace the BIOS in VirtualBox with it? :)

TheX

@GeorgeEdison don't know I have never used it... I was just curious to see if anyone else has

Stefano Palazzo

18:40

It doesn't work on any interesting motherboards I think I remember

"I am using a Lemote Yeelong, a netbook with a Loongson chip and a 9-inch display. This is my only computer, and I use it all the time. I chose it because I can run it with 100% free software even at the BIOS level." — Richard Stallman (JAN 23, 2010, source)

George Edison

...but that's not true!

I'm sure the firmware on his HD controller isn't free :P

htorque

you call richard stallman a liar?

:D

Stefano Palazzo

Well, there are flash memory devices that use pure hardware instead of firmware (I think)

and as we know, even RMS doesn't advocate the four freedoms for hardware (be it flash memory or chairs or ball point pens)

TheX

who is RMS?

htorque

anyone here using a ssd? do i really have to fiddle around with fs options like noatime? is it worth it?

George Edison

18:44

@htorque: Don't use a journal.

That's all the advice I can give.

Stefano Palazzo

@TheX richard my-god! stallman

TheX

oh lol

Jorge Castro

@MarcoCeppi SE runs the twitter accounts, the the SO blog

Stefano Palazzo

@htorque I do, I haven't set any special options at all, just disabled swap

Jorge Castro

@GeorgeEdison nice work on the twitter stuff, it's awesome

htorque

18:45

@GeorgeEdison but isn't a journal a good thing? :D

George Edison

Oh, you saw that?

@htorque: Yes, but it provides little advantages on an SSD.

htorque

@GeorgeEdison i know about limited write cycles but heck, the ssd has to work for me not the other way round

Stefano Palazzo

If it breaks in six months, the same one will cost about 10 euros... so, what ever.

George Edison

What's that in Cdn $?

TheX

whats that in US$

Stefano Palazzo

18:48

12.8431373 canadian dollas, 12.96900 us dollars

htorque

hardware stuff: 1€ = 1USD

Stefano Palazzo

indeed

TheX

where are you getting a ssd HD for 13 us dollars?

htorque

in the future! :P

Stefano Palazzo

@TheX that wasn't to be taken literally :)

TheX

18:49

oh...

so you can time travel?

George Edison

Cdn $ almost == US $

TheX

can you travel back to the past, and get me 60 cent gas?

Stefano Palazzo

i meant that the price will keep dropping at this rate, so it won't make any sense to keep this thing around in half a year (i paid 120€ for 64 gb)

George Edison

I'm sticking to good old fashion platter drives until SSDs are more affordable.

Stefano Palazzo

I sometimes wish I still had a spinning disk

htorque

18:50

i'm just glad i don't use windows anymore - 64/60gb is not a lot for windows + apps

George Edison

I need lots of storage... and I need it cheap.

TheX

Yeah you would fill up 64 gbs with windows and like 3 apps

George Edison

@htorque: That's nothing for Windows. Mine almost came with that much used up :P

htorque

iirc vista business installed 17gb on my drive - uh, what? :D

win 7 pro was about 11gb i think

ubuntu... like 2-3? :D

TheX

@htorque about 10 I think, maybe a little less

htorque

18:52

including awesome applications :D

Stefano Palazzo

mine's 10gb

fluteflute

It's multimedia that takes up all the space... all those videos, photos, etc :P

George Edison

My root partition is only about 40GB.

htorque

but i neeeeeeeeeed that 14MP cam :D

George Edison

The rest is a massive NTFS partition.

Quick question... how do I connect to a server app running in a VM?

What's its IP address?

Stefano Palazzo

18:56

In virtualbox 4.0, right click the networking icon at the bottom of the machine, select whatever, then click "port forwarding"

TheX

my windows partition is 280 gbs

Stefano Palazzo

set, for example, guest port 21, host port 2121, then connect to "locahost:2121"

George Edison

Thanks!

Stefano Palazzo

my pleasure (: I just fiddled about with this nonsense for 20 minutes before I remembered that SSH is port 22, not 21.

TheX

officially from MS you need 8.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666 gbs for windows 7

htorque

19:04

i can install ubuntu three times in that space AND have most of the applications i need installed :D

i wonder why it's so disk-hungry

Stefano Palazzo

what's with the sixes?

htorque

7+10:6 is easier :P

Stefano Palazzo

he :D

26/3 even

tekmote.nl/epages/61504599.sf/nl_NL/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61504599/…

George Edison

@Stefano: I'm afraid I couldn't even reproduce it in my VM :(

Stefano Palazzo

this is the stallman-netbook btw, it even seems to be in stock

@GeorgeEdison I'm all out of ideas then o.o

TheX

19:15

wha tis with the sixes anyways?

George Edison

Can you consistently reproduce it on your end?

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison send me the script again, I never saved it

I used cloud computing, and now my data's gone :P

TheX

I consistently reproduce....

George Edison

@Stefano: pastebin.com/VKNJqPky

TheX

oh snap... that isn't what you meant

George Edison

19:16

^---- Note: it's got my name not yours in it.

You'll need to fix that.

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison you made a mistake

oh sorry no, I misread

I thoght you had replaced all the filenames with tmp.txt, but it's just my broken syntax highlighting

@GeorgeEdison I can't reproduce it now

~$ for f in seq 1 30; do (python test.py & ); done

works fine, strangely

htorque

woohoo, loads of unity commits \o/ that calls for me compiling trunk :-)

Stefano Palazzo

@GeorgeEdison yep, I've managed to do it again. here's how:

I've actually created the "test.txt" file that is RETR'd via the server :)

George Edison

Okay.

So the only thing I do different is create the 'test.txt' file?

Stefano Palazzo

and put something in the file for good measure, though I don't know if it makes a difference

mine contains "asdsd"

but you'll want it to be less than 8k, because it (should) crash with anything larger because it tries to store each frame in a single file

George Edison

19:27

Hmmm...

Stefano Palazzo

hey maybe this is silly-window-syndrome, that'd be cool I've never seen it in the wild

George Edison

@StefanoPalazzo I'll try this.

Aha!

Reproduced finally!

I had it running in the debugger, so I can see exactly what broke down.

Thanks!

Stefano Palazzo

Cool

I'm really glad it worked, because I gotta go :)

Marco Ceppi

19:44

@GeorgeEdison Want to try something?

TheX

okay

oh wait I am not @GeorgeEdison

Oli

This sidebar issue is making me sad. I can't vote or comment.

Marco Ceppi

@Oli have you tried dumping your cache?

Oli

@MarcoCeppi It's a server-side issue... It's sending another page inside the page where it should just be a JS variable. I see the same on my phone and on a laptop that has never been to the site.

Marco Ceppi

Interesting. I can't seem to replicate it :/

Oli

19:51

It's not uncommon for ASP.NET devs to cache things in the session so I might try logging out and in to see if they dump the session on a proper logout.

Nope. See the same even when logged out

Perhaps chat is the issue. brb.

=(

wth? chat uses global scores now? interesting

klochner

Hey all - anyone familiar with upstart?

Oli

Thought I'd won a 22k bonus for being awesome.

@klochner I'm trying to get familiar with it... If that counts.

klochner

:)

I have 8.04 and none of the commands seem to work

but I have an event.d/ directory, so I think it's installed

Marco Ceppi

@Oli It depends on whatever account your chat user is attached to. Mine is AskUbuntu your's is SO.

Oli

I've come in via chat.stackexchange.com if that's what you mean

klochner

19:58

sigh. I'll try later . . . I posted it as a question in case anyone wants to snag the points: askubuntu.com/questions/21256/upstart-on-8-04

Oli

@klochner sorry I zoned out.. Posted an answer might help, might not

Marco Ceppi

@Oli chat.stackexchange.com/users/4810/oli

Oli

Oldest box I have is a 9.10 so I'm only guessing

George Edison

20:14

@Marco: What?

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison Nothing, I was going to do something stupid to your account to test something

but I decided not to

George Edison

What was it?

Marco Ceppi

Suspend you

Apparently it has no effect on you, since you're a moderator

htorque

suspend me!

Marco Ceppi

@htorque it shows up on your account even after unsuspension

So I'd rather not put a frowny face on your account

htorque

20:20

like a prison tattoo :-O

Marco Ceppi

Yeah, lets keep the tear drops to a minimum

htorque

>:P

branding users that way isn't very nice. everyone deserves a second chance! ;-)

TheX

can someone get my 100 rep points back?

Marco Ceppi

@TheX Where did you leave them last?

TheX

@GeorgeEdison please???

@MarcoCeppi I believe Sarah Palin ate them...

but that is pure speculation

George Edison

20:27

@TheX: ???

TheX

@GeorgeEdison remmber yesterday, the audit?

George Edison

Yeah?

TheX

are those points gone forever?

htorque

if those points are from deleted answers i guess you can un-delete them and trigger a recalculation via askubuntu.com/reputation

TheX

@htorque no... I had them, then I did a recalculation and now they are gone

George Edison

20:31

I don't know.

@Marco: I'm going to create a test user.

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison For what?

TheX

@GeorgeEdison I thought you knew everything

George Edison

Testing!

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison Testing what?

George Edison

Then we can all see what happens to suspended users.

...and banned users.

htorque

20:32

@TheX and askubuntu.com/reputation showed the same rep point count as the one in your user page?

George Edison

...and then I'll delete it :)

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison I know what happens. I was saying that apparently if you suspend a moderator it actually has no effect against them

TheX

@htorque it use to

htorque

strange

Marco Ceppi

So I needed a moderator to suspend :)

htorque

20:33

in my case, the value of askubuntu.com/reputation was the right one, and the one on my user page contained the deleted answer votes

Marco Ceppi

But I decided that it was a bad idea all together. You can create a test user though, if you'd like :)

TheX

I don't know exactly how many points I lost but I think it was between 50-100

of course if they are gone forever that is fine, but if there is any chance of getting them back then I would like that to be the result.

htorque

hmmm, package rebuild succeeds on one system and fails on the other - both up-to-date natty x86. :-/ i hate such problems; it always takes so much time to find the cause.

George Edison

20:51

TheUnsuspendableUser

1

^---- ...is now suspended :)

TheX

for 24 hours? what did it do to deserve that?

George Edison

...and now they're gone.

Hmmm... mods can still read the posts.

Marco Ceppi

Did you delete or did you destroy?

George Edison

Destroy.

I wanted to see what traces remain.

TheX

what is the difference?

htorque

20:54

you administrators with your god complex - creating and destroying users at will. that's so wrong!

:D

George Edison

@Marco: Can you see the answer to this question?

19

Q: How to get the "Your battery is broken" message to go away?

Everytime I turn on my computer, I see a message saying something like: Your battery may be old or broken. Etc... I know my battery is not working. How can I make the message go away?

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison yes

George Edison

...then it really didn't get rid of all the answers, did it?

Marco Ceppi

Maybe you didn't do the secret handshake

TheX

odd

George Edison

20:57

Handshake?

TheX

hand shake?

George Edison

^---- it's owned by the community user now.

htorque

what's up with users that have no link to their user profile? did they delete their accounts?

Marco Ceppi

@htorque Yes

htorque

ty

George Edison

21:02

@htorque: Someone did.

fluteflute

0

Q: Voting on questions, answers and comments does not work

Voting on askubuntu.com is completely broken. Each time I try to press the vote buttons on questions, answers and comments, I get an error: An error has occurred - please retry your request. (click on this box to dismiss) Using Firebugs netpanel, I found out that the vote request is not p...

bug

Ah it's gone away for me now...

SO ignore that :P

klochner

21:27

I'm getting errors when I try to upvote responses

where should I report bugs?

George Edison

meta.askubuntu.com

Marco Ceppi

@klochner Check these first

0

Q: Voting on questions, answers and comments does not work

Voting on askubuntu.com is completely broken. Each time I try to press the vote buttons on questions, answers and comments, I get an error: An error has occurred - please retry your request. (click on this box to dismiss) Using Firebugs netpanel, I found out that the vote request is not p...

bug

2

Q: Sidebar is all messed up.

Either something isn't being escaped properly or there's been some new HTML that bodges the site. I'm seeing this behaviour on both the main site and meta.

bug status-reproduced

klochner

that sounds like my problem

guess I'll try chrome

Marco Ceppi

@klochner I thought it was an isolated incident until that recent meta topic popped up. I'm trying to get a fix expedited - but at the latest it should be fixed by 7PM EST

klochner

cool, thansk

thanks

I can confirm it works in chrome (didn't work in firefox 3.6.13)

Marco Ceppi

21:38

@klochner Yeah, seems to only be affecting Mozilla based browsers

Paul Fisher

I'm on Firefox 4.0b9pre from the PPA and voting works for me

George Edison

I've got Namaroka.

Marco Ceppi

RE: Sidebar tom-foolery

> @MarcoCeppi, 'tis being looked at. Build should resolve things shortly.

George Edison

21:55

@Marco: Want to repost your "How do I use this crazy chat system?" link and I'll pin it?

I deleted the old one because it had the wrong URL.

Marco Ceppi

I forgot what the old one said...

George Edison

"How do I use this crazy chat system?"

Rebecca Chernoff

@MarcoCeppi (or anyone), are things functioning normally now?

George Edison

Almost.

Marco Ceppi

@RebeccaChernoff It appears to be working now.

George Edison

22:08

One person expressed disappointment on the new 'alert' sound that gets played.

Marco Ceppi

George Edison

9 hours ago, by Stefano Palazzo

Ono - we now have the weird chat notification sound from chat.se, instead of that really nice "ding"...

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison I think @RebeccaChernoff Meant with the site in Firefox

That ding really probably isn't going to change because it's related to the chat server not per site IIRC

George Edison

Oh, I don't know. I use Chrome :P

Rebecca Chernoff

She did mean that (:

Marco Ceppi

22:09

q:p

George Edison

Don't talk about yourself in the third person... too weird.

Marco Ceppi

(The rosetta stone of @RebeccaChernoff smilies)

Rebecca Chernoff

Hehe. Alright, if you're good I shall bid adieu. (:

Marco Ceppi

22:30

5

Q: New Design Launched

Hi All, Unix and Linux site has been officially launched!. Thank you for your design feedback and congrats! I ended up taking the mascots off the header. I agree with you that they made the site a bit childish, also it's hard to cover all the different OSes. If you have see any css/styling iss...

discussion featured design

Lets see how long it takes for everyone to hate me :)

DoR

@MarcoCeppi I agree with you ;)

Marco Ceppi

Is there any idea when Natty beta will roll out (Like a count down or anything?)

htorque

2011/03/31

Jorge Castro

22:58

unix.se looks nice!

2

Marco Ceppi

I do actually like the layout a lot

Very clean, simple, and unix looking

@Jin Does some REALLY great stuff

@JorgeCastro I've been thinking about that video you did for the Software Center - with adding "Tweet My Review"

Ubuntu/Canonical should really think about getting a short url

like: can.onic.al, or ubun.tv, etc

Jorge Castro

ubun.tu :)

Marco Ceppi

.tu doesn't exist (believe me I have looked)

The only reason I forfeit this idea now is because I'm not a resident of Albania and .tu doesn't exist

There is a .to though

OH I AM TOTALLY REGISTERING mar.co

Oh, it's actually registered. Damn.

Matt Mullenweg

Matthew Charles Mullenweg (born January 11, 1984 in Houston, Texas) is an entrepreneur living in San Francisco, California. He is the founding developer of the popular open-source blogging software WordPress and writes a popular blog [http://ma.tt/ ma.tt], a domain hack. After quitting his job at CNET, he has devoted the majority of his time to developing a number of open source projects and is a frequent speaker at conferences, such as Canada's Northern Voice and the WordCamp events organized around WordPress software. In late 2005, he founded Automattic, the business behind WordPress...

That jerk has it.

Jorge Castro

23:18

heh

George Edison

@Jorge: I have a question for you.

Jorge Castro

ask!

George Edison

Is Canonical hiring right now?

Jorge Castro

webapps.ubuntu.com/employment

Marco Ceppi

canonical.com/about-canonical/careers

George Edison

23:29

Would they hire someone from another country?

Marco Ceppi

I think so.

"Job Location: Home-based in APAC."

Is one job location

George Edison

Hrm... some of them require degrees :(

Roland Taylor

start a business :D

I'm the process of doing it - not easy, but worth it in the end

George Edison

That's not an option right now.

I don't have access to the resources necessary.

Roland Taylor

btw hi @JorgeCastro @MarcoCeppi @DoR @TheX @Oli @lazyPower @StefanoPalazzo

^^

George Edison

23:34

wonders how many OSD boxes were generated by that message.

Roland Taylor

@GeorgeEdison I know the feeling. The best suggestion I would give is to start small - find someone who needs something done and pursue that, just make use of the one resource you might have - even in small amounts: time.

George Edison

I'm doing that.

That's where chromify-osd came from.

Roland Taylor

cool

I'm trying to do the same - a bit hard in my country, but it can work :D

have you considered doing ubuntu support in your local area?

for pay ofc

George Edison

Ubuntu support?

Roland Taylor

What I do here is, try to advertise ubuntu, and provide paid install/service support to other people.

They don't pay me for the OS, just the service of helping set it up for them.

Hardest part is the advertising :P

George Edison

23:38

You could probably count on one hand the number of people that use Ubuntu where I come from.

Roland Taylor

lol

I used to think so till I went to college locally :P

George Edison

I'm one of them of course, but still.

Roland Taylor

all the younger students were like OMG THAT IS SO AWESOME

just cause it could boot from a live CD

made a couple converts then

:P

George Edison

Macs are filling that role over here.

Not that I think it's a good thing.

Roland Taylor

I later found out that quite a number of people are running Ubuntu/Linux but are keeping it secret.

Marco Ceppi

23:40

@RolandTaylor When my friends were in College I used to visit them and show them my laptop and say "I can install this for you in 30 minutes"

no fee, no hacks, free

that ususally sold them

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi I used to do it for free at college too

George Edison

I converted one of my relatives. That's it.

Roland Taylor

people started begging to pay me

so I obliged now :P

Marco Ceppi

I'm naturally an energetic evangelical when it comes to things I like (and hate) so I can usually sell people on my enthusiasm. Then I leave them my phone number and email (and now ask ubuntu URL) and tell them to contact me if they have ANY problems. People really like it when they feel then can get true support for their computer and not some offshore flowchart help from a company that outsources to a company that doesn't care about you

George Edison

I've done a very small amount of that. But it was with Windows since nobody else I know uses Ubuntu :P

Marco Ceppi

23:43

I take any opportunity to talk to anyone who brings up the subject of computers first

DoR

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Q: Which Aliases do you find most useful or helpful to your Ubuntu experience?

Since first becoming an Ubuntu user I have developed a growing list of aliases, and there are some that I cannot imagine being without. This makes me think that there are probably still tons of aliases that I haven't thought to use which could make the lives of me and fellow ubuntu users easier. ...

terminal alias

Should this be a CW?

@MarcoCeppi @GeorgeEdison

Marco Ceppi

@DoR It's highly likely

George Edison

Whoa: "To perform this action you must accept the Moderator Agreement."

Wha...?

Marco Ceppi

@GeorgeEdison Yeah, that's like 3 hours ago. Check the teach lounge

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Q: Non-Legalese EULA for Diamonds?

I just accepted the UELA for being a diamond mod on the site that I moderate. I think this is a great move, especially the bullet points regarding what you can and can't do with the information, and that we're not SO employees. I even read the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy as required. But wo...

feature-request stackexchange moderators

Roland Taylor

@MarcoCeppi lol I'm trying to determine if to take that as personal or not :D

and sorry for not replying - I switched browsers - urgent fb comment :D

Oli

23:59

@RolandTaylor hello!

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